" Listen to these points that I'm trying to explain to you." " Because, what was..." " You guys are in a triangle." " I know." "It's a mess." "I don't know if you have all had relationships together." "But that's your business if you did, but I'm getting rumours that you guys did." "I can care less." " Poor Jamie..." " Huh?" "I can care less." "But I'm telling you, right now you guys are in a triangle." "And look where it's at, OK?" "You've got him leading both of you guys on." "You've got him loving her more than he loves you, and I'm just being honest." "I was never looking for love," "I was never looking for a long-term relationship." "I was never..." "I wasn't into all that." "I wasn't ready for that." "I wasn't mentally or emotionally at that stage in my life where I could handle something like that." "And it bothers a lot of people when I speak that way because they want to portray it as it was some huge love triangle and it wasn't." "It wasn't." "I was young, I was immature." "It was just something to do." "Oh, God." " This is the time, tonight." " But when..." "If you're going to sit there and lie to me," "I'd rather you just look at me..." "OK?" "And not say a word." "But if you're going to continue to lie to me," "I'm going to make your life very, very hard." "I'm just being honest to you." "Because I'm trying to give you an opportunity, sweetheart, to do the right thing." "This shit may have got... may have gotten out of hand, you've got a baby right there you've got to think about." "If it happened, that's fine." "If it's out of anger, that's fine." "I understand." "I'd be pissed off at it too, because I like this man and this man constantly goes back to this girl that ain't shit." " But why would I hurt her is what I don't understand." " Why?" "Because you can get her out of the way." "But you know what?" "In two years, me and him have been off and on, off and on..." "And you're tired of that shit." "But now you have a kid from him, from Josh." "We thought they each had their own separate, not independent, but their own personal motivations." "His motivation was, you know, Heather had had him arrested," "Heather was talking about taking the kids and going back home, and he, for whatever reason, wanted to be involved with his kids." "Emilia's motivation was just to get rid of Heather so that she could have Josh, because there was an attraction between Josh and Heather." "He kept going back to Heather and, in fact, at one point, you know, kicked Emilia out to move Heather back in." "His relationship with Heather didn't bother me for the simple fact that my intent was not to ruin it." "It was, you know..." "I wanted them to be happy." "I wanted them to have a healthy relationship, but whenever they would split up, that's when me and him would kind of hook up." "Men weren't very important in her life." "In Emilia's life, her family was important and then when she had her kids, her kids was definitely important." "But other than that, she never really cared about men." "Emilia kept to herself when it came to that." "She never could trust them." "Obviously, he had a relationship with Heather, they had two kids together." "So, at this point, I kind of changed direction and tried to make Heather a person." "Playing to his emotions, Josh would see that she's the mother of their kids, and that he would probably reveal a little bit more." "During the course of the investigation," "Josh asked for a break." "He wanted to smoke a cigarette, so we ended up taking Josh outside." "However, when we had him outside we wasn't sure if Josh would say anything, so we took a recorder outside." "And I think Josh was then trying to find a way to tell us where she was, and he did that by saying, "Emilia told me this," ""and this is what I know based off of..." "Emilia told me." ""I wasn't there, I don't know." "Emilia called me" ""and told me not to worry about it any more."" "He's saying that you told him that." "This is what he told us." "Your heart is about to jump out of your chest." "Because I was home at my momma's..." "Your heart is about to jump out of your chest." " That pisses me off." " OK." "What is he saying I did?" " That you set it up." " Set what up, though?" " I mean, because all I heard him say was that..." " Listen here, OK?" " You're trying to backpedal on me..." " No, I'm trying to..." " I didn't really hear." " OK, I'm telling you... that he said... that you told him... that...you guys took care of Heather and for him not to worry about her any more." " Who's "you guys"?" " You." "When I found out that he was telling them about me, I don't know," "I was just... more just..just..." "With the whole situation, I'm sitting there thinking to myself, "Here's one, two, three men..."" ""Really?" "Are they all trying to throw me under the bus like this?"" ""Really?"" ""And what have I ever done to any of them?"" "So, I mean, I was just..." "I was shocked, and I was pis..." "I was mad, and I was just hurt, and I'm sitting here, like..." "I didn't know what to do." "Listen to me." "We've gotten this far." "Yeah, and I don't know what else to tell you," "I don't know where she's at, man." "I don't." "I just want to sleep and get out." "So are you telling me Emilia knows..." "She knows everything?" "I'm saying she knows more about this shit than I do." "You're telling me she never asked you..." "If she was going to do it, she never asked you what was the best way to do it?" "She never asked you where's the best place to..." "Well, I ain't no fucking murderer, man, I don't know what's the best way to kill people and get rid of them and shit." "We didn't know how much involvement Emilia had after learning that information from Josh." "Again, we didn't know." "We didn't know because Josh had said so much beforehand." "So what to believe?" "Was Josh now deflecting this on Emilia?" "Getting it off of him?" "That's the point that she was allowed to go back home." "When I walked back into the interview room and basically told Josh," ""We're done for the night."" ""We're going to arrest you" ""for the unlawful use of Heather's credit card," ""and you're going to go to jail."" "And Josh..." "..shocked me." "There's no other way to say it." " Can we stop and get a pack of cigarettes?" " Yes, we will." "I had to almost pinch myself and say, "Am I dreaming this?" ""Or did he just tell me what we've been asking for all night?"" "I remember turning out of the room" " I had to grab my composure." "I didn't want to show any emotions towards him." "I grabbed my composure, I walked back out of the room, and I'm... ecstatic." "I'm telling Lieutenant Spivey, "You'd better hurry up" ""and grab your things."" ""We've got to go.""