"On every decision in the company," "It's probably not the right company." "Let's just remember we're on payroll for a reason." "Animals and ecosystems will be affected by this stuff." "That we're just putting straight into the rivers." "We're setting up a baseline for water treatment." "So we know how all the soap's," "Detergent's affecting everything." "She left this morning without saying anything." "The goat didn't even get treated, like, any good at all." "If you can't stomach it," "Then maybe you literally shouldn't stomach it." "You know what I'm going to do?" "I'm going to have you look in here." " Okay." " Why are you here?" "For my underwater logging company." "Atlanta's got the largest ecotimber company in panama," "Probably central america." "I'm a fifth-generation british columbia log and lumber person." "She was born in a trailer park in a logging camp." "My dad started with nothing." "And kind of was a legend in b.C.," "So I literally had to run machines and chain saws." "And do every level of the business." "I was always obsessed with the pile of waste." "And turning forgotten pieces into treasures." "Alana's just an ass-kicking" ""does what she wants" entrepreneur." "We have the highest accreditation." "You can get for being an ecowood company." "Aw, jimmy." "We just were close right away, and then we dated for a while." "I think we had a conscious decoupling." "I don't know anyone else like her." "I love that man." "He's brilliant." "He's a visionary." "I've been selling jimmy wood for 3 or 4 years now." "Our wood is priced very well." "It's the "I used to sleep with you" discount." "It's a good deal." "It's a good deal." "I've never been to kalu yala." "I'm just run really hot," "And if I'm miserable out there, it would not be good." "That's... now, that's exciting." " I like that." " Whoa!" " I thought you might like that." " Yeah." "That's just..." "That's just equity." "That's simple, right?" "We just look it, like, I'm gonna have to pay for it anyways." " Exactly." " Yeah." "Okay." "Well, just, I want to supply you with your wood," "And I want to create my own products." "And I need smart, young kids, like," "Just working on this." "And assi's gonna be involved a lot, right?" " Yeah." " Okay, good." "Unless he leaves." "Are you leaving?" " No." "No." " Jesus!" "You'll be fucked without him, jimmy!" " I don't know, guys!" " We..." " No!" " He's not..." "I mean, we're all replaceable." " I hope I'm replaceable." " Jimmy!" "I would like to be replaced tomorrow." "If you could find someone to replace me." "I would love to be replaced tomorrow." "Whoo-hoo-hoo!" "Whoo!" "So who knows about." "The new group of people that left kalu yala?" " What?" " Wait, what?" " There was another group?" " Yeah." "I just got this shitty information." " What?" " From..." "Wait." "Who?" " Conor and mary are gone." " What?" " What?" " Yeah." "So it's cool." " Did you?" " Just lost best friends..." "It's not a big deal." "And he didn't tell you he was leaving?" "Nope." "I'm sure that there's a reason." "But I think they didn't like where this place was headed." "Why wouldn't they tell anyone?" "A lot of people are leaving, and it's now week 5." "I feel like a lot of people come here with expectations." "That aren't met." "Maybe because some things on the website and the way." "That things are presented are misleading a little bit." "I noticed that all his stuff is gone." "I think the timing of it was really unexpected." "At first, I was really upset about it," "But it's happened a few times now." "And I guess that's just how people." "Want to leave this place." "It's impossible to convince people to stay here." "And to continue moving forward." "It's a lot of things to think about." "That's how I feel right now." "Let's do the elephant in the room first." "Obviously, conor has left, which really sucks." "I think the timing of it is a bit of a shock to me." "And I think a lot of other people." "The sloths should be on our shit list now." "Because mary decided." "That she'd been thinking about leaving for a long time." "And that if she saw a sloth that day," "It meant that she needed to leave." "And she saw a sloth, and then they left." " Are you..." " No way." "So fuck the sloths, right now." " Yeah." "Fuck sloths." " Fuck sloths." "I'm thankful for kalu yala." "I met some awesome friends that I will have for life," "But I think a lot of work needs to be done." "On figuring out what they are." "We had spoken outside to the universe." "Hoping to get one back." "We had not seen a sloth in the month." "That we had been there." "So if this is the right path for us, show us." "A sloth at some point, like, on our travels onward." "And the next day, we're walking out with all my stuff," "And we saw a sloth." "So we snuck out." "We didn't want to sour up." "The community at all with our beliefs." "Because sometimes your path affects other people's paths." "Conor is one of the most enlightened people I know," "And to see him leave kind of shook." "My reasons for being here." "When really good people like that leave, you wonder," ""are we not offering, you know," "The education we think we offer?"" "What happened to lose two people of that caliber?" "Big week, you guys." "Super excited." "Let's talk about what's happening this week." "The first thing is guests." "So we have the deputy ambassador coming." "We have a guest from the u.S." "She owns a lot of land in montana." "And wants to do something similar like kalu yala." "So she's looking and seeing what this is like." "And then we have alana, who sold us all this wood." "I did not think she would ever come to the valley," "And she's coming." "So what that means is let's tow the line." "Between being super hospitable." "And, like, showing off what we have." "Mood is contagious." "Let's be really good role models." "I met this person in a kitchen in montana," "And somehow they convinced me." "To book a flight an hour and a half later." "And come down to panama to see what they've built." "And to see if it's something." "That I want to build similarly in the mountains." "So I'm here with a bag, very poorly packed," "And absolutely no idea what I'm walking into." "Right this way, my dear." "I'm excited." "First trip to the valley." "This is my bag." "Don't laugh at all my luggage." "I had to..." "It's..." "So how many hours are we gonna be out in the valley?" "Well, I brought all my comfy stuff, you!" "Shall we put this in the back here?" "Yes." "Alana's first time to the jungle." "It's, like, for anxiety, not that I have any," "But it calms me down." "I'm just so proud of jimmy." "Yeah." "And I'm excited to see the wood, you know?" "Dude, honestly, jimmy has really stepped up." "In the last couple of years." "When we first came down here like 3 1/2 years ago," "I guess when y'all were dating," "Jimmy was a little bit of a mess." "He had the vision and stuff," "But I don't think he knew what it took at that point." "Yeah." "It can't be easy." "You're creating a community in the middle of the jungle." "Like, it's insane." "One of my major job descriptions." "Is the hospitality manager," "And so I facilitate all of the short-term visitors." "This is why I'm coming out with you." "I get to be the camp host, you know?" "Host you while you're camping with us." "Like, I know you're an amazing athlete." "I know you're a mad genius." "I don't know specifics about the family, though." "Tell me." "My background is forestry and ecotourism," "And my dad's, like, in the finance world." "He and my older brother went to princeton and..." "He must be so proud of you." "He must just think you're crazy and perfect." "I'm definitely the black sheep of my family." "My love in life is to be goofy." "One of the things that I love about kalu yala." "Is this is the one place that people accept me." "For who I am in all of this, you know?" "I love you." "Prefer 5'14 " to 6'2"." "My gosh." "I didn't know that I could feel this way." "About a person until I met tyler." "I zipped for 6 years," "And I always wanted to build my own zip-line." "E-mailed jimmy and said "hey, can I come down?"" "And I told tyler, "hey, tyler, sorry." "I got to go to panama,"." "And he goes, "wait." "Can I come?"" "We're never leaving kalu yala." "Yeah." "We're lifers." "You swing it around kind of like this." "Being a high-level athlete," "I was the five-time all-american." "In track and field and hammer throw." "Rah!" "I wanted to go to the olympics in 2004." "But ended up ending my career early." "With several back surgeries." "Cheep, cheep, cheep." "When that was over, it was pretty rough," "And I went into a kind of a downward spiral." "For a little bit." "I had some well-honed bullying skills." "It was because I was miserable," "And I wanted them to be miserable." "And then I found nature." "Natural beauty and being out in nature." "Helped me both recover from that." "And then also just continually live." "A much happier existence." "Hello!" "So this is my parents' house." "Here, eat your poo." "There we go." "This is my room." "I wouldn't want to trade the life." "That I have at kalu yala for a homicidal, competitive." "Hammer-throwing life, ever again." "I wish you could've continued, so..." "I am so glad that I didn't, honestly." "And I brought fans for you." " So..." " Well, I run hot," "And if I'm uncomfortable, we all have a problem." "You're such a city girl now." "I know, but I've come to, like, went to forestry school." "So I wouldn't have to be in an office." "But I was always in an office, and I've kind of lost my edge." "Yeah." "That's all right." "We'll get it back this week." "Yeah." "I want to be dirty." "We're planning for the future," "And we're not spending enough time planning." "For the now, like..." "Are you leaving today?" "Are you quitting?" "Two of our hippie interns left." "Because they didn't understand the vision." "Hey." "Welcome to panama." "So why panama?" "Panama has been the fastest-growing country." "In latin america for the last 10 years," "And it will be for the next 10 years." "The canal is panama, to a large extent." "It's definitely the heart." "And when the u.S. Turned it over in 1999." "And the panamanians started having access." "To all of the revenue from it." "Is when the panamanian economy really took off." "It's so diverse culturally," "And in terms of our economy, we're growing 6%." "There is technically no unemployment." " There's no..." " What percentage of your hires." "Have been local, then?" "So very few, you know?" "Because we've tended, until recently," "Hired former interns." "Therefore, we've hired americans." "Kids can come down and do a semester." "In the building program." "And learn all the techniques needed to build an entire house." "What the kids are doing is research work." "If you're a student and your whole project." "Is just one huge failure, that's fine." "You're paid to be here." "You have people paying you to do your manual labor." "Well, they don't really do that much manual labor," "Unfortunately." "I wish they did more." "When you get on payroll at kalu yala," "You have to embody the values of kalu yala." "Are you saying that you don't embody the tenets of kalu yala?" "No, not at all." "I think the whole company." "Would be over by now if that was the case." "There's a little drama." "We had two of our hippie interns left." "Because they didn't understand the vision." "Design thinking is defending the vision." "Do you want to talk to interns tonight?" "I'm really tired." "I really don't feel like." "Giving a town hall speech tonight." "Water's out again!" "Chris!" "There's a water crisis." "Apparently, the water is out." "What happened to the water?" " Yeah." " Or from the neighbors." "Just, like, the past hour." " Okay." " All right." "So we're in another water crisis," "And we got to repair our line." "And then I want to set up this rainwater tank so that," "If it does rain, we at least have something." "I could use about six and eight hands." "And then by doing this, you'll be a part." "Of the water team, the water first responders." "So this will be your first training." "Analise, hey." "Hey, christopher." "Sweet." "Perfect." "Perfect timing!" "Yeah, man." "Agua, si." "Anybody else going on water help?" "Water help, please." "About 2 or 3 years ago." "It's always been worse, actually." "We're always getting better and better." "There's always been a lot of issues," "But then it, you know, with every fix," "You kind of learn to adapt." "All right." "We have to go through camp." "And all the way up the mountain to the tributary," "Which is quite a bit of a distance." "It's about 1 kilometer." "The last project we did was so exciting." " Somebody died." " Aw." " Man." " Wow." "Are you going to get incinerated or buried?" " Definitely incinerated." " I want both." "I'm sick of having a big footprint, okay?" "When I die, my footprint is going to be zero." "You're so..." "I love you!" "Sort my shit out." "Fucking love you." "Let's talk about how we want to look at things." "What do you guys want to do?" "We have a couple different plans." "And layouts..." "Nice." "I like that." "That we can, like, pick and choose stuff from." "This one is just kind of a clusterfuck." "We have this one, right?" "Is it this one?" "No." "That's not it." "It was just, like, plans rolled out." "And stacked, and nobody knows anything." " That's one." " This one?" " It's this one." " Okay." "I'm supposed to talk to jimmy." "I want that to be here faster." "So there's gonna be a road in here, too." "And what we went over today with john..." "Because he said to put swales on the hill..." "Like here." "And so that way you can retain water." "So on that hillside," "There'd be a swale, then a road." "You could actually build your road in a way." "That actually." "Was near a groundwater charge." "You see swales in neighborhoods that look..." "It's a solid surface, but it's like." "A gravel solid surface, right?" " Yeah." " And it puts the water." "Down below that surface so that the groundwater can..." " The road can be at the swale." " Yeah." "Exactly." " Everything." " Like, why we're here?" "His vision." "What?" "Wherever he wants, like, here, there." "I just want to look him in the eye." "And ask him some, like, deep-seated questions." "Where are you guys seeing any opportunities for retail." "Or mixed-use occurring?" "The downtown and then..." "Yeah." "This area, also by the students." "You guys like the idea of a town square existing?" " Yeah." " Yeah." " I want to talk to him..." " Okay." " Like, today..." " I still..." " Like, now." " I still think that..." " Yeah." " He's, like," "An interesting person to talk to." "I know that jimmy really pushes us." "To be comfortable with ambiguity," "But I think that that's a lot to ask," "Especially a younger crowd who isn't really, you know," "Confident in themselves." "To be that, like, in a space that's so ambiguous." " The ambiguity of it all." " Yeah." "Yeah." "I'm on the biology aspect," "Backing up the "yes, we are sustainable."" "Yes, okay." "Did you take a team of biologists." "And survey the ecology of the surrounding area." "In terms of biodiversity," ""Plants that are here, animals that are here?"" "And there's just questions that I really want." "To ask the man himself," "The one who's responsible for us being here," "The one who has the vision." "I want to see if it's bullshit or not." "I'm having some genuine concerns with water treatment." "This is a spaghetti factory where the idea." "Is that you fail more often than you succeed." " Jimmy, that is horseshit." " It's not horseshit." "Come on." "You can't just say, "sorry, entrepreneurs." "We can't give you everything you need."" "So just to show you all." "This is a pressure check." "That's it." "That's normal for where the head is at right now." "Does anyone want to get really wet." "And try to iwo-jima this in?" "Ally." "Good job." "Yeah!" "It should be twice as high as that." "I'm gonna see if there's any sediment," "So I'm gonna release this." "I have one brother and then three sisters." "Dana!" "My mom's currently working at walmart," "And my dad is still truck driving, moving furniture." "Yeah." "You want to strap everything down." " Yeah." " So he's always on a trip." "Somewhere moving couches," "Pianos, boxes, all the good stuff." "73 yellow." "Some are, like, really light as a feather," "And others are heavy." "It's not an easy life." "You're away from home, and life on the road, I mean," "Sometimes the marriage, it's not safe." "Always an adventure, though." "I remember being on the truck," "On the road with him since I was 5 years old." "Kids, we used to start them off with, what, garden rakes?" " And..." " Tennis rackets and..." "Yeah." "Something they can't really break." "Yeah, 'cause I've broken some things in the past." "The majority that people overly attach to their things," "And when it breaks, they would freak out." "They're so consumed in their egotistical lives," "Especially in the states, where their lifestyles." "Are really comfortable." "Working for them, we would be treated." "Sometimes as we're, like, servants." "Sometimes we'd get customers yelling at us," "Thinking we're part of their, like, maid crew." " You okay?" " Yup!" "The treatment that we received." "From a lot of people was really shocking." "And just the lack of gratitude." "Of just doing the lot of heavy grunt work." "That's making my dad's knees break." "I've had two knee replacements on the same knee." "I think my knees were always screwed up," "Anyways, so it doesn't matter." "Now that he's getting older, it's kind of wearing on him." "He would always tell me," ""I do not want you to be doing this when you're older."" "Yeah." "I would not want my kids." "To do this job, not at all." "I realized what I really wanted to dedicate my life to." "Is volunteer work in latin america." "So that's what propelled me to study hard at school," "Which was loyola marymount." "They had a civil engineering degree program." "After graduating, I had 100 grand in debt," "And my dad is the cosigner." "So if I don't pay, he pays, or they take the house." "So, given my financial situation, I have no choice." "I have to continue making as much money as I can." "They're not doing anything." "They're working." "Every single job, I always say," "Is going to be my last one, forever." "And I've been saying that for, like, 5 years now." "But I always find myself doing it again." "It's always a great feeling, sitting in the back." "Of the truck, because you know it's the end." "So now we're gonna go check in with our neighbor," "See if they got water." "Okay." "Okay." "Okay." "So apparently the water's leaving from..." "Or it's bursted somewhere over here." "Okay." "What's up?" "What do you need?" " Okay." " He's really sad and unhappy." "But he's, like, one of our most amazing students." "Okay." "And I would love it if you could talk to him." "Okay." "It's cahill, the tall, handsome one." "Okay." "And I think it would be good for him." "Because I don't want him to leave." "Conor and mary left yesterday." "And they were, like, amazing." "Okay." "And I think it's just, like, lack of communication." "And understanding, and that's why they're leaving." " Okay." " Yeah." "Well, too bad for them, but I'll talk to him." "Cool." "Thank you so much." "Yep." " Hey, y'all." " Hey." " Both bio, right?" " Yes." "Let's rap." "What's up, cahill?" "All right." "So I don't know." "I'm not the type of dude." "To just, like, beat around the bush." " Yeah." " And so just been having some," "Like, genuine concerns." "With water treatment and water quality." "And, like, have there been tests done." "To just, like, establish a baseline." "In terms of, like," "Ecologists and biologists who, like, survey." "The surrounding area?" "The best environmental agency in the country." "Did our environmental baseline study." "On the entire 7,000 acres around us." "We test the iguana, the trib, the well, hours house." "Has it been tested again." "After everyone's been, like, using it and stuff?" "We've been using it for..." "I mean, we've tested it." "I mean, well, I mean," "Soaps wouldn't really impact, like, the..." " They would, though." " No." "But..." "No." "But hold on." "But when you say that," "I'm saying, like, where would you sample." "For the soap impact?" "Upstream, so that will be, like, baselines," "And then where we're not bathing in, where we're bathing in," "And then downstream and hopefully," "Like, accumulation that could happen." "No one's done that." "That's kind of why we're here." "You have, like, eight biology interns to make sure that," "Like, things are really environmentally safe." "For instance, we found out that biodegradable soaps." "Don't really work the way we thought they did." "They don't biodegrade when they're first there," "You know what I mean?" "They have to have time..." "And they need soil in order to biodegrade." "That's why you bathe 200 feet." "You're not allowed to use biodegradable soaps to..." " But we do it all the time." " Yeah." "And there's just no one enforcing anything." "Yep." "Like, I'm gonna be gone in a month," "And then maybe the next interns will discover this." "And then, like, they'll get another, like, few steps." "But then, it's like, there's no one here." "To make sure that all this stuff is going through." "But I guess I just want to know, like, where, priority-wise," "Like, the environmental impact." "Is for this town or future town." "It's, like, the ambiguity when it comes to academia." "Is really dangerous." "Because you could hide in that in a way." "That it's like, "okay, it's taking a long time."" "It takes a long time to progress,"." "Which I totally get." "But also it's like," ""hey, I want to light a fire unto someone's ass." yeah." "And this is all coming from passion." "Because I really care about this idea." "I think everyone's here for passion, cahill." "Like, let's not be accusatory." "We haven't had a sit-down." "I still don't really..." "I mean, I got to admit, cahill." "My plan is not to sit down one-on-one." "With every student who comes to kalu yala," "You know what I mean?" "Like, at all." "If that was our strategy for this town," "That I had to meet one-on-one with everybody." "In order for them to get things done," "Then we don't really..." "That's not a very scalable strategy." "I see no other way to solve that." "That besides sitting down with you, right now." "I have a problem with the idea." "That we can't figure out how to do water analysis." "And that I have to..." "She didn't say " "Figure out how to do water analysis." "I'm not saying you have to figure out." "How to do water analysis." "I'm trying to figure out..." "And I feel like you're making it," ""I don't want to..." I want to solve this issue." "I want to, like, go ahead and address..." "And also, like, we're not pointing any fingers at you." "It's just, this is the only strategy" "I can think of to, like, maybe help me." "Get something done or get help on this." "Sometimes it's important to, like, set these standards." "And make sure your foundation is solid." "I'm worried that we're planning for the future." "And we're not spending enough time planning for the now." "It's this, like, revolving factor of ambiguity." "Are you leaving today?" "Are you quitting..." " Look." " Kalu yala?" "I'm worried that we're planning for the future." "And we're not spending enough time planning for the now." "It's this, like, revolving factor of ambiguity." "Are you leaving today?" "Are you quitting kalu yala?" " Today?" " Is this an exit conversation?" "No." "I just need..." "Awesome." "Well," "So let's just start kicking ass together, then." "Y'all are biology students." "I'm not a biologist." "Where are we not figuring out how to solve," "Like, this water quality problem?" "Because that sounds like a systemic issue." "I'm going to exhaust myself and my resources," "And I expect the same from anybody." "If you're making a request that something change," "Then you got to be part of the change." "Are we good?" "Yeah." "Appreciate..." "Hey." "Help me out, though." " Yeah." " Tell me what we need to do." "Let's put the onus on ourselves to all take action," "And let's resolve things and let's charge forward." "Because we've only got 5 weeks left." "We had a very constructive conversation," "But I believe in action." "We talked about him getting me." "The ecological surveys of the surrounding area." "He gets me that info, that's me on board with this." "But until that, it's, like, I know he listened to me," "But now it's..." "I'm just waiting to see the results of that conversation." "The jungle in kalu yala is not for everybody." "For some people, it's just too uncomfortable." "To be that challenged." "And honestly, like, it always makes me sad." "When people leave because the people that leave." "Are the ones that are gonna get the most out of it." "On a personal-growth level." "Because if it's that challenging to them," "Then they're gonna learn a lot about themselves." "If they stick it out." "My god." "My god." "Crossing the river." "I'm excited." "I don't even know what to expect." "I just want to see it all." "Well, all right." " This is it?" " Yeah." " We're here already?" " Yeah." "It's alana's first time to the jungle." "I'm so excited." "You want to go on a property tour?" " Yeah." " So this is town square." "And then this fence right here is the break." "Between town square and the farm." "I feel like I'm in an ewok jungle." " What is that?" " That is a..." "That's so boring." "I thought you were smoking wild meat." "You'd caught with your bare hands." "I was a little excited." "I need to get my champers on ice." " Hi." " Hi, welcome." " How are you?" " I'm so good." " Did you not know I was coming?" " Welcome to kalu yala." "I knew you were coming." "I thought you were..." "But you didn't shower?" "I thought you were coming earlier." "Wow, so many cute boy "skinterns."" "I like..." "If you told me that part, I would've been here years ago." "I love these platforms." "They make me happy." "Ooh, I like the one with the swing!" " Whose is that?" " Jon's." " It's so cool." " I built this." "Hey." "I got to run to this meeting for an hour." " All right." " And then I'll be back." "Love ya!" "Thanks." "I'm gonna go get the champers." "Ooh, it's probably cold." "This is so exciting." "Ooh." "You put them in there as a glass?" " Yeah." " Cute!" " They're reusable cups." " I want to do that." "Tyler, can you make more cups, please?" "I love jungle champagne." "This is fun!" "It's like a bellini." "They're recyclable." "Biodegradeable." "When you're done," "You just chuck it in the woods, you know?" "You don't have to feel bad." "How long have you been here?" " I flew in on Sunday." " Yeah." "And I leave tomorrow." "I think what I've learned." "Is that I have already a lot more at my fingertips." "Than I thought I had." "I never felt comfortable with people paying me." "To do stuff on my land, and I think that, like," "That model has been really successful here." "And people are thriving, and they're really liking it." "They're, like, getting this hands-on, unique experience." "And so, to change my thinking of, like, "wow."" "Like, I don't have to go and invest $150,000." "Into 10 different yurts that will survive the winter." "Like, I could do a class and have people pay me." "To come and build those yurts..." "Yeah." ""Which I'm still trying to be cool with."" "It's a model, right?" "It's a winwin for everybody." " I know." " I'm a capricorn." "Well." "Y'all found each other." " She's amazing." " Legends meet." "Can you share what your next thought is?" "Okay." "It's called dogoodwood." "And I've always talked about getting interns." "In coming up with products, we work on a manufacturing." "Perspective again and again and again..." " Yep." " Can make us money." "We just need your wood, and we'll figure it out." "Yeah." "But I think it could work." "How is the design thinking?" "We're really getting somewhere." "I feel really good about the plan right now." "What we're trying not to do is to get away from the fact." "That this is a spaghetti factory where, like, the idea." "Is that you fail more often than you succeed." "We're trying not to become institutional." "Where we actually supply you." "All the things you need to be successful." "Like, that's kind of the antithesis." "Of everything we're doing here." "So..." "Jimmy, that is horseshit." " It's not horseshit." " Come on." "How is that horseshit?" "It's got to be project by project." "You can't just say, "sorry, entrepreneurs." "We can't give you everything you need."" "Otherwise, they wouldn't even be here." "You know what I mean?" "If they were actually going to be successful," "Then I should be paying them to be here." "But they get to work on successful projects." "Everything comes when it's time for it to come." "But, jimmy, you need wood, and I need interns." "I'm getting more champers." "Hey, it's remarkable." " Hey, guys." " Come on up." "I just wanted to touch base with you." "About one of our weirder, more out-there projects." "Yes." "I want to hear this." " Is this about iguana farming?" " This is about iguana farming." "Help me understand iguana farming in 5 seconds." "What we're starting with is, like," "A prototype iguana pet-raising cage." "To something that could be," "Like, several acres, like," "Comparable to, like, our chicken farm." "Who's buying iguana meat besides me?" "That's the thing." "I don't think it would ever get to that size," "And I'm not, like, super concerned about it." "So this is just a local import substitute." "This is a local import substitute." "So we're serving iguana, like, iguana tuesdays." "Yeah." "Does iguana qualify as sustainable proteins?" "Man, does it." "Okay." "So iguanas are vegetarians, and they're cold-blooded." "So you actually, like, per acre." "Can get a lot of pounds..." "What's the downside on iguana?" "Because iguana sounds perfect right now." "I'm excited about iguana right now." "Yeah." "How long do they take to get big." "Before you kill them?" "So you could get, like, an iguana body size." "Like this in a year." "What happens after you eat the meat of the iguana?" "I mean, you could find markets, again," "For, like, the skins and stuff, assuming that we are." "Yeah." "What do you do with the reptile skin?" "So you're going to literally..." "Yes." "Me too." "I love the sound of rain on the metal." "They're not all going to run away." "If we just keep them semicaptive." "And a couple make a leap, who cares?" "You're going to have rebel interns that are like," ""free the iguana." this is what we did." "If the brave ones get out, I say, "go."" "Let them go." "Like, let them live." "Okay." "Jimmy's doing the dishes tonight." "I saw his name on the board." "He is not going to take that well." "Fuck dish duty." "I'm on dish duty tonight," "And I'm not even going to show up." "Dish duty for people." "Who aren't being paid by the kitchen." "Is now officially over at kalu yala." "Welcome to hierarchy." "Welcome to chain of command." "I'm not showing up." "When people see iguanas," "They shoot those iguanas out of the tree," "And they eat them." "And they're prepared often very similarly to chicken." "There's one of our barges." "So the air tanks are down there," "And they're filling the air tanks with air." "And then they're going to cut it, and it should pop up." "Here we go." "So want to focus on the technique." "For creating a garden anywhere." "Go ahead and pass that around." "My god." "There's so many wormies." "All that carbon in there, that's, like..." "Basically all this organic material." "Acts as, like, a sponge." "And in the rainy season," "It's not holding too much, right?" "It's kind of just, like, the perfect amount." "Then it kind of self-regulates." "That's kind of the crazy thing about organic material." "We just have to go out and get it." "What about this one?" "Chop it down, girl." "Today is my birthday." "I turned 24, and this has been pretty much the best birthday" "I've ever had, literally just walking around," "Chopping trees down with a machete." "It's pretty fun." "So..." "People are always like, "wow."" "You just work so hard all the time."" "This isn't really hard work." "First of all, this is fun," "And I feel like I'm doing something." "Hard work is trying to work three jobs just to stay afloat." "I'm headed back to where I grew up." "Enola spells "alone" backwards." "I just think that's..." "That's funny." "My parents were together my whole life." "My dad is literally a sociopath." "Sometimes you would walk in the house," "And, like, you would know what mood he would be in." "You would come in the house, and you just, like," "Feel tension everywhere." "It was, like, awful." "He would just smash all the plates in the kitchen," "And food is everywhere, and he's throwing shit at you." "And, like, it's, like, crazy." "It's crazy." "He would instill fear." "In my whole family about leaving," "And he actually convinced all of them." "That he was in the mafia." "So that they would be scared to leave." "Or talk about the things that he would do." "Sometimes it's just, like, sad being here." "That's why I don't come home." "I don't need to be in a place." "Where I'm just surrounded by, like, bad memories." "Nikki?" " Hi." " Hi." "You want to sit down?" "Yeah." "I should probably sit down." "Are you gonna see mom?" "Yes, eventually." "Jesus." "Okay." "She's just worried." "Okay." "I'll see her." "I asked her to get lunch today, and she said no." "I don't know why she stayed around with the family," "To be honest, but it's kind of, like," "Frustrating because I feel like I kind of got dragged." "Through the mud with it as well." "And I know she was scared," "But how did you let yourself get so scared." "That the lives of your kids weren't okay?" "I hate when people are like, "like, what's your name?"" "And I'm like, "ashleigh kman."" "And it's like, "so you're that girl in that family."" "My dad's in jail for literally three separate crimes." "He stole a lot of money from a lot of people," "And he was stealing money from me." "He took out a bunch of credit cards in my name," "And he took out a loan in my name." "So I just had all this debt." "I still have to pay that money back." "So I had to work two jobs just to stay through school." "I want to file a civil suit against him," "But it's really hard to prove identity theft in general," "And then to also prove identity theft." "Against someone in your family." "Is really difficult." "Also apparently you can't file civil suit." "When there's criminal cases still open." "Right as soon as that case ended," "He got indicted for, like, this murder-for-hire charge." "He was sexually abusive." "My sister was really the only one that came forward." "I can't believe that that is my father." "This was my dad's office, once upon a time." "He used to keep... my god." "Sometimes I get scared because he's still my dad." "What if whatever hereditary shit he's got going on," "Like, what if that's in me, too?" "So, okay." "What's the best way to counteract that?" "Okay." "Just go save the world." "That sounds so dumb." "There's that part of me that's, like, "okay."" "But also I want to prove that" "I'm not an asshole to myself and to other people," ""And I'm not just like him."" " Hello, ashleigh." " Hey, y'all." " Hey." " Where have you been?" "Thank you guys so much." "This has been, like," "Literally the best birthday ever, so..." "When I got this, there was nothing on this land." "We put everything in." "Wait." "Where the hell are we going?" "Iguanas in panama, like, their numbers." "Have really been brought down by hunting," "To the point where it's become illegal." "For people to hunt them." "Jimmy approved the iguana farm." "So let's start the build." "Okay." "When people see iguanas," "They shoot those iguanas out of the tree, and they eat them." "Then they're prepared often very similarly to chicken." "What we can do is kind of artificially." "Increase the numbers." "By bringing them into an enclosure," "Keeping them away from cats and other predators." "And then releasing a lot of those back." "Into the wild to become part of the population." "You know, as a town, it'll be kind of cool." "To have a lot more iguanas around." "We're going to lake bayano," "Where I have an underwater logging operation." "And it's the largest underwater logging company in the world." "The wood is underwater." "It's been down there since 1976." "It was flooded for a hydroelectric dam." "The water's harder than shit." "It probably is the burn rate of concrete." "Basically, when the world ends, it'll be cockroaches." "And jimmy's wood lab." "It's beautiful." "When I got this," "There was nothing on this land." " We put everything in..." " Wow." "Compost toilet." "All our barges are made from recycled propane tanks." "All our docks are made from recycled propane tanks." "Cool." "Okay." "Ready?" "Listo, how far is the logging?" "With this boat, about 20 minutes." "Okay." "Most jungle operations are quite nasty." "They literally are bulldozing down trees." "It's rough and dirty roads." "Because they've got 3 months to get out." "Before the rain comes in." "It's just gross." "There's one of our barges." "On the barges, we have air compressors for diving." "They go down." "They guideline the tree to the tanks." "Tanks." "And then they fill the tanks with air," "And then they cut the tree, and it bursts up." "And there's hundreds of millions of board feet under here." "It's environmentally sound because, "a,"." "We're not taking it out of a jungle." "We don't have to build roads to go in," "And it also removes the dying wood." "That creates a lot of methane." "And we're providing a lot of jobs." "For the kuna indians." "No, no." " Which way is it, armando?" " Way out in the middle." "So the air tanks are down there," "And they're filling the air tanks with air." "And then they're going to cut it, and it should pop up." "Here we go." " Whoa!" " Whoa." "My gosh." "Whoo!" "Wait." "Where the hell are we going?" "Seeing a place that is still in development." "And still in the phases." "Is really, really awesome and inspiring." "If you look at auroville," "You look at all these places around the world." "That have been doing these intentional communities," "In here, we're literally walking on flats." "And through mud and trying to be." "In the early stages of what's happening." "And now we can eat." "Now we eat." "Hi." "How are you?" "I'm well." "How are you?" "Good." "Where's..." " My god." " My god!" "Can't believe you're here." " I know." " There's no air conditioning." "No." "I'm actually fine." "Why do you ask?" "I genuinely did not think." "Alana was going to come to the valley," "And she came during rainy season." "It's absurd." " Okay." "I love her." " Isn't she ama..." "We had the greatest chat." "Amazing." " Did we have the greatest chat?" " We had a really good chat." "And she still needs to make notes after that one." "I know." "So I have this idea." "I would love to have." "In the spring 20 students come up." "That want to pay me $1,000 each." "To build composting toilets." " Yeah." " My god." "That would change things..." " Yeah." " Completely." "We can absolutely do that." "Okay." "And then staffing, buffet," "You pay someone $1,000 on these." "You're making $60 in 2 weeks." "But then you get..." "Yeah." "You get toilets." " I get toilets." " That's the thing." "That every semester here," "We make a little bit of money, very little." "We make a little bit of money, and then we build something." "I think that there's a reason why I came down here," "And I have been looking and talking." "To everyone around here to learn as much as I can." "But I think that whatever ends up coming from this trip." "Or whatever ends up coming from our conversations," "I do think it's going to be hugely beneficial." " And..." " Yeah." "Thank you." "It's super-duper exciting." " It is super-duper exciting." " I know." "There's people everywhere changing the world." "I think kalu yala will always be a part of my life," "But there's other things and places." "And people that I believe in." "So I don't think my future starts and ends in kalu yala." "People are crawling on their hands and knees." "They feel as though that they have sinned," "And they need to atone for it." "So that's how he sees every one of the issues." "As just a little blip," "But that one nick is our whole life." "All I know is they're not getting a dollar back." "Screw them." "That's a big deal." "That's a lot of money." "That's 5 grand." "I'm into us being adults," "To guard against our liability of children." "They fed us shark, and then they made the agriculture." "Students bury the shark." "That is so rancid." "Jimmy stice and all of stice development." "Are exploiting students," "And I think they're gonna be exploiting the panama people." "That is my opinion." "I don't want to go back."