"since the late 1880s visual artist and story-tellers have used moving images to create amazing worlds" "movies have inspired us thrilled us and capture our imaginations" "film, has helped us to share our experiences and dreams photo chemical film, has been the exclusive format capture, develop, project and store moving images for over 100 years" "it was only resently that a new technology had immerged that challenging film place of gold standards for quality and workflow" "digital technology is evolving to a point that means very well replace film as the prirary mean of creating and sharing motion pictures the documentary doing is called side by side it's the documentary about science, art and impact of digital cinema" "100 years of photo chemical film making right now it reached a kind of threshold of tipping point in this conversaton, in this intersection of time is historic we've kind of come to this place where it is the end of film" "where are we today it's exciting, because it's a re-invention of new medium" "if the photo chemical process has virtues through our culture why aren't you another level how do you use it to tell a story how do you use it to paint apicture" "are you done with film don't hold me to it, Keanu but..." "I think I am digital cameras are the new aesthetic that coming to cinema and at the same time we are going to mourn the loss of film" "I am costly(?" ") to justify where and why I shoot a film by film" "But I don't hear anybody being honestly to justify why they want to shoot a film digitally" "I want everything I could imagine to be something we can realize" "I saw the door opening on a field of possibility that you just couldn't do it with film" "It's really sad right now to see cameras cording imagery a serial way starting to take over film" "I'm not gonna trade my oil paintings to seta crayons" "there will be people who will chip in digital there will be people who will not only kill the goose lay the golden egg they'll sort of mess it first if the intention of that digital will replace film" "I'll be sad if it's doing acturally exactly where we hate it" "because that digital now can make it look like film that film is inherently better just we like the way it looks better which seems kind of arbitrary that we were used to" "film is a 19th century invention we are on the top of photo chemical process this is about as far as ever we can go digital is here now but it's gonna keep going and you're gonna be part of that" "who's be gonna be a part of that dictating where that goes" "I don't think films going anywhere" "I don't think it's to the image or anybody to totally eliminate film there gonna be many of us, they'll fight for film fight for the experience of shooting on emulsion" "we really are in the mist of some sort of revolution that threatens the status qual it's so potentially either scary thing or very liberating thing" "one of the first steps of production process is capturing the images in camera the director, actors, cinematographer and the entire production team work together to bring the script to life" "the cinematographer, also called the director of photography or DP helps the director achieve the look of the movie" "the DP is responsible for knowing what equipment is needed and how it works in order to capture the scenes" "a director of photography looks at color and composition and angles and all those things in terms of how the movie is being built the quality of light of skin, the quality of light through hair, the quality of light through the window and bouncing off the floor" "they're equating the building of this world and terms of energy that reflects off objects the question is about framing, sensibility, how to make people feel bringing emotion into the lights comes from being appropriate and somehow being" "the really great is, more than appropriate they really startle you with how wonderfully" "I could have this look is on whatever they're doing" "That level of crossmanship?" "or technical expertise" "You can't explain what you're gonna do so there is a certain matter of leap of faith that they have to having you" "To be a cinematographer is to have the knowledge of the art" "Without any doubt, cinema today is a mix of art in technology" "Today, in this area, you also have to be a bit of technician" "You have to know the equipment" "It's really important for DP to understand the entire links of the image chain" "From acquisition to excavation" "The camera is a tool that focuses and measures" "Photons of light and record them in images" "With a film camera" "Light enter through the lens and hits the frame film behind the lens" "The film is covered emulsion that contain grains of silver halides crystals" "These crystals react chemically when light hits them" "And the crystal change to silver metal when they are developed" "A photograph image is formed on the film" "There is something about the texture of the grain structure of film" "That personally I hold on till it's like a comforting thing to me" "And it feels more tangible" "How I open up and flip themselves give sort of touch of quality" "Still have some granularity in the image that keeps high light living and keeps blacks with a little bit more nuance characters in them" "I greaten grain and texture they give you a variety of different opportunities" "The workflow on the film set" "Basically means that you take thousand-foot load of film loaded in to the magazines" "And that enable you to shoot for roughly 10+ minutes per roll of film" "And it gives a natural break of action when someone pulls the magazine off the camera" "And put a new magazine on" "Then the film goes away to the film lab" "And it developed over night" "And printed" "And in the next day, you could see dailys" "There was a joy for many many years" "For us to be the genes on set" "That's why we like dailys" "We'd all go, we'd act, we'd like" "We'd do all we do, and we'd love what we did and then everybody would rapt and the next morning we came back in the lab" "We went "wow, look what we got."" "You know it was magic" "The director of photography was a magician" "He was the only?" "one who actually, probably knew what's gonna beyond the screen the next day" "And this gets you a lot of authority and pal" "There is a certain believe of faith you take when you shoot the film" "And there are something really romantic about that" "Get your dailys back and everyone being really excited to see what you got" "I don't like the betrayal of dailys" "I don't like going in and seeing and getting swept up with the performance" "And then seeing go out focus on 25-foot screen and knowing that there's no way to retrieve that" "But in like a film about that feeling midway to the day, end of the day did we get anything, that day?" "I didn't remember, I didn't get it" "Didn't feel we put the flag in it cause you couldn't see it's like painting with the lights off" "But the DP will tell you:" "it's not, the lights aren't off, it's in my head" "It's in his head, well that's great but I'm off bringing the camera picking the lenses, I'm judging the performances" "A digital camera does not use film" "Instead, it has an electronic sensor or chip behind the lens" "The sensor, is made up with millions of tiny picture elements or pixels for short when light enters the camera it hit the pixels and create individual electronic charges these charges are magnifying converted into digital data that represent the image" "ring the film that it just constantly moving" "So the result is kind of fuzziness well the pixel kind is very fine-line, accurate, exact thing" "with digital cameras in monitors you are able to see exactly what you are recording on sight as you're shooting" "unlike film cameras you don't have to wait a day to see what you've captured they're no longer dailys they are "immediatelys"" "You sit round back of the set or in the tent somewhere looking at the huge monitor and make adjustment from that which is actually quite alike because that means you seeing the picture exactly it is" "And with old film, a capture it was overnight and sometime you got the burden that "I wonder if I go there right"" "(?" ")I think we need more backine and don't worry how great daily is" "They know as well as anybody that you go to dailys and I really think there should be more backline in there" "But If you do it on the set" "You can understand it, more backlines" "And they do it, it's ok cause that is exactly what I want cause it exactly is the way could be in the movie theater" "People speak about:" "thank god, I can see what I'm getting on" "I don't have to wait until tomorrow" "I can see it and focus on it I know what I'm getting few watching the monitor on set and you feel that you really seeing what you've got this thinking is fooling yourself" "Your audience are gonna watch the film on the screen is 1000 times bigger you watch it on large TV" "Yes, you see what you get it, that's right there" "Proof for me that I think you need to see rushes later" "I think it's concentrate" "But the performances or just the movement that is something you can see in a special time" "The process of shooting film was the DP's art and secret" "Today the cinematographer is a monitor on the digital shoot and everything they are doing could seen, criticized and questioned" "It's very distractive sometimes" "I work with a couple of actors that insist on I'm look at it everyday with one of the actors" "I was able to talk among of it because it's making his performances very self-conscious" "Right?" "Are you also convinced that everybody is just looking at their hair?" "One of the great pleasure that being a cameraman was that the people who was the suits on the producer" "They all think they know how to act they all think they know how to write they all think they know how to direct" "But they knew they didn't knew how to shoot" "So I say this is really got on you you could say: here, this the media you do it" "I was the charmer" "But now, being a thing that you can shoot is not like it used to be" "There're cinematographers who became cinematographers because they love the voodoo of it" "They love it when the director said to them:" ""down that cornor"" "will you able to that?" "that's kind of melt away"" "they get to guile: " just wait till tomorrow, it's gonna be amazing, you're gonna love it."" "and then, I had this experience, they've set the dailys then I've gone some of the durance can't just work on se7en you just go "wow"" "but there is the an equal man on time so you go:" "look at it and say: "what the fuck?"" "Now with digital cameras everyone could see exactly what things were going to look like that changes the way you like it it may even change your performance" "Because it creates a different feelings in the whole thing" "It gives us more scope to be creative" "That was exciting" "That for me it's digital revolution of cameras all about" "In 1969, at bell labs in New Jersey" "George Smith and Willard Boyle came up with the idea for the charged couple device and the first CCD chip was created" "One of the things that makes the CCD unique is its ability to performs specialized functions such as acting as a camera" "The image that you see on the TV screen aboout of us is being produced by the small CCD camera which is directly in front of us here" "In the early 1970s, after a visit to bell labs" "SONY started investing in and developing products using the CCD technology" "Akio Morita was the father of SONY" "He was always an amor of Hollywood" "And it was his dream to design an electronic camera" "That could create images were equaling or better than the 35mm film record what you want , when you want" "In the mid of 1980s" "SONY was producing its first consumer quality CCD camcorders" "In the 1990s small standard definition cameras began recording digitally" "They were first to use cinematically when they were embraced by the dogma 95 movement in Denmark" "Can you speak a little bit about" "Where did you first coming to digital..." "Actually it's by chance" "Because we made this thing called dogma 95" "And we made up some rules" "And one of them was that the thing has to be filmed by academy 35mm" "And on e of them said it had to be hand-held camera also" "And then I said, if that is the case we can also use video" "And that was just at the same time that these cameras came to appear" "Anthony Dod Mantle was the DP who shot the first dogma film" "Thomas Winterberg's celebration" "(?" ")Was it pure also of digital video?" "The lightness of the camera, the weight that you couldn't..." "I tell you it was the first hit me" "I was coming up the food market in Copenhagen" "I had a SONY PC 3 and that's the exact camera I end shooting celebration and I remember scenes crowd with lives" "Supported us just moving across this field with a industrial backdrop" "Into mist and hazing, it's gothic" "I was just learning how to play with it" "Swept it around and I got this weird moment of this midgetcy" "Of lightness and midgetcy and I looked at the image and said "my god"" "and that's gonna be nice cameras" "I called that" "Too much say when I was shooting in celebration on the small cameras" "Casuse I want to be a protagonist on celebration" "The combination of the movie is actually emotional movements of the camera which probably defined that film's visual line should depart them from the actors and the watching great script" "with that camera and I suddenly solve these smooth it's possible movements I didn't know in my cinema" "And that became my donation for  celebration" "What  celebration meant and what a lot of the other films at that area meant?" "Was that you just have to completely rethink the technical side of the film making they brought people to film making for creativities sake" "They pointed out that the mechanism of film making only serves creative" "With DV" "Came this whole idea of wait a second if we lower our budgets we get more freedom as directors and producers" "Shooting a film on video of that point meant it was crap" "It was almost unaccepted truth that you didn't shoot films that you're serious about on any kind of video format" "We just started going out there and we are saying:" "Look, we're gonna make movie digitally we're gonna give director's final cut" "Totally create of control" "But we'll make them cheaper" "And our very first movie was chuck and buck" "Hey Buck uh, Hi" "can I get you something to drink?" "oh, no, that's alright" "Looking at rushes it will scary yourself would you like some icecream?" "really?" "uh, I like icecream" "Oh god, it looks so amateur" "A lot of people actually... come it on hell modeled it looked what you're thinking you fucking doing, man" "I remember when we presenting it on Sundance they were scared to death" "The direction would be "this was shot on video"" "The digital presentation did not look nearly at any way gonna be acceptable substitute of what film was" "Because of...porn" "And because of documentary and because of news footage" "Video occupied the space in your mind like:" "I'm here I'm in that room oh my god, this is really happening" "And that makes chuck and buck better" "People were starting to think in a completely different way about" "How could the technology and medium help us to rethink film making" "You start to see people start to challenge the idea as the group as indigent (Independent Digital Entertainment )" "They were creating standard def video" "That within they converted to film for seen actual released" "I think as a independent film maker we are at the most exciting time ever" "Because now we can go out and make a film on DV" "Oscar has a new girlfriend really?" "it seems last day we get quite late for that conversation" "The idea was that if you shoot digitally it was cheap" "And absolutely helped fill the number of movies that gotten make" "I remember my first year on Sundance we return 35 submissions total of the fiction category few years later it was 10 times of that back to that Sundance days the releases of indigent, people were saying that's ok for you as independent" "But this isn't cinema this isn't..." "That was a huge saying to make film on a video camera and go to Sundance" "And win best director, and win beat film for personal velocity" "Gary's own film tadpole" "And being sort of for normal man's money" "Everyone worked on it: make money from that sale" "And that's when a lot of the idea you can shoot film digitally" "And it's almost like a production aesthetic" "And that's when all those debates started" "You must have heard that late 90s film's gold standard and the tool you playing with are what?" "debasing, fattening" "I have been slapped around if you wanna..." "What do you mean "slapped around"?" "(?" ")I mean I've been exploded and homosexualcated for the sentence" "It was a quite obvious to me to go to digital because of mature you can have the camera" "The amount of the mature you can have your camera was obvious since I was trying to create another way of working with other tools" "And that was essential" "I imagine there was collaboration for you than terms of the relationship with your actors for longer takes?" "Yes you know, Keanu 10-minute is maximum, it wasn't really 10" "9 or something" "When that thing starts rolling" "There's kina underline feeling that precious stuff rolling through there" "And it puts kind of a tension on things" "Like a shoot as much as I wanted" "I can get the best performances" "I didn't have to worry about shooting is a little burst of film" "That was ridiculous but that was what I had to do that's how expensive it was comparatively" "Digital, a little gizmo, 40 minutes" "And you can be running this camera and talking to the actor" "Starting over again" "And they get down in there" "And catch a thing never would get caught if you have the giant thing there" "I love to on the camera" "Especially when we were at the emotional place that magic is happening" "When you go cut, That all of a sudden everybody's in there" "And you were at a place where it is just there" "And then everything stops then "that's ok, now go back to that"" "And I said "no, just went to the camera, back to one"" "As fast as you can get back to your position" "You can go again" "I just thought there was way too much waiting" "Because movies for me there is always momentum problem" "Cause I grow up in the theater and that's how I was trained and a lot of time in movies I... feel like "can we go?"" "it's very tough for me to be able to shoot 45 minutes" "Not reload of the cameras" "Because it's true this entire group can't get on concentrate" "The actors can only concentrate for so long and you need 2-min-break, 3-min-break during which time you reload" "When you're running a film camera on sight everyone seems to take things a little bit more seriously" "When they hear the film running they hear the money running on the camera basically" "Everybody brings an aim" "The first time I'd ever heard the word a film going through a camera" "It was thrilling also make me very nervous because" "All of a sudden each take counted in a way that I never really experienced before what about that moment after you say "action"" "Like for me, when that cameras rolling" "I guess maybe it's connected to the money but... the 10-minute reel is so finite" "It's almost athletic thing like focus, focus..." "Like that's good for them that's just atmosphere though" "I mean if you want that you can create that, right" "I thought it could make a difference through actors" "Don't give a dozen particularly twice" "I Just infinitely give adjust whatever way they have to tell it they'll tell it" "You didn't ask for a break you didn't say:"hey, can we stop"" "You are on digital now -- yeah" "Though my first experience is, without which is, there is no cut" "I worked with Richard Linklater on the film called Scanner Darkly" "It just lik -- you can just go on" "Yeah, I just like "can we please stop"" "Stop~" "No, we don't have to" "Robert Downey actually came up to me, and he said:" ""I can't work like this," ""I never get to my trailer, I never get my shit together" ""I'm on my feet 14 hours a day, I'm shooting all the time."" "He actually left mason jars of urine on the set" "Just like over in the corner stuff just he will go off and pee in it and bring it back this is like a form of protest" "Previously, what's on celluloid only really has been thrilled to arrive a holy grail of celluloid, it's amazing so we made the first few films on celluloid and I made a very big of Hollywood film the beach" "with Leonardo Di Caprio, and a big crew and it didn't suit me at all" "I felt it was too much weight for me really somehow" "And so I then saw celebration wasn't so much the film, wasn't even a look" "It was the camera operating" "Movement of the camera" "So I got with the guy who shot it, Anthony Dod Mantle" "And I said I feel like not doing the right thing any more" ""Can we do something together, Digitally"" "which I didn't know what I'm saying by saying that It was kind like a new world anyway" "Then we came with the script 28 days later" "And we shot it on consumer cameras" "But I remember Anthony saying to me" "It's all vey well working in this format and he said we'll never get an Oscar" "There was a scene in the beginning what the character Cillian Murphy wanted it run" "A deserted London" "We will not be able to achieve the film on film" "Because we have to stop the traffic and we did not get enough money to do it" "So what we do is just hold the traffic briefly" "But because we run these cameras, we could use ten of them cause it's so cheap" "and he can walk through central London and areas of it" "We have 10 cameras of that, so you only have to stop the traffic for a few minutes" "Then you would actually have 10 shots" "That was enormous advantage" "We plays cameras around" "Not coinciding not badly not loosely" "I tried to control every angle and I know what few ways is best" "What's gonna be used" "But that said you can let anyone there, and have a little new guesses there" "You are in a wide shot with small figures in it" "They were just like 2-3 pixels" "I mean there's nothing there, they were just color color is wise if you put it up against exact copy of they were on film" "The film will be imagerily superior" "But you can shoot illegally, substitutedly without people knowing" "You could do unconventional things" "And the rhythm of film which is passed on since it began" "(?" ")Cruise of lens" "You interrupted that, I love that freedom" "And I got taste for it then, I knew which way to chalk that sequence so I was gonna work on it now, that wasI want it to work" "It makes the editor's job extraordinary cause it's often plumbing through Masses and masses and masses material" "In the 1970s and 80s electronics companies began working on solutions to replace film editing" "For over 100 years, editing man physically cutting and connecting pieces of film we used to go to the editing room they were rolling them into the trim basket they took the film now, and put that through the moving roll" "and you slap it together like this you remember the white gloves and they're incredibly fast at it" "I find a frame and Sometimes blazing and get your fingertips bloodied that's just really the blood in the film" "So I mean really had it and now it's fascinating buttons now this is the floppy disk we all familiar... early editing systems use moldable magnetic disks tape machines and laser disks to store and read digitaled of film" "most of the systems are enormously very costly the first thing I have read that changed everything I think it was the digital editing machine which spend a daily set and converted film into tape so that's started the whole thing going" "we start a picture editing system that was all digital we had the first "editdroid" working in 1980 and we eventually sold the system to AVID by the late 1980s" "AVID had developed digital editing into a compacted cost-effective computer-based system when I first saw the AVID" "I have a dimmer image quality was block in, tiny and I said: this is gonna be really good if they give the image quality right about in 5 years time why not try it on the AVID" "I'm also one of the earlier adopter people" "I like to leap into the unknown" "I remember on the English patient" "I look at in the images and "no, how I'm gonna to be able to do this?"" "when I work with elder editors they'll often to talk about the time when computers were starting to come in and they were very resistant to it because they weren't familiar with computers they were just scared that they didn't know enough about it" "if you push that button or if you accidentally turn it off wrong or turn it on wrong that everything will be gone while that could never happen if you actually physically have the film in your hand they thought that was not editing, editing is... so when you're editing the movie on film" "that's just technology, the art form is the manipulation of images to tell a story it was extremely difficult major that because I haven't used a computer" "I've seen a mouse somewhere across the floor but not in the editing room but I learnt and I keep the machine quite a bit but once I don't doing on it that's ok and I like it" "there's no film in the editing bay it's all... it's quite" "I don't hear I used to hear the "rururu..."" "the reel on the benches it was very noisy kind of buzzing atmosphere and now it's very quite, almost like that you can burn any sound like candles" "digital bring you the speed and almost challenge you the sense of "can I think that fast"" ""do I need time to breathe?"" "sometime are young editors are over-interesting and doing extremely interesting work but they don't always have the time to sit back and think about what they are doing and I think if they work on film they probably have to train their mind to do that" "so it's a different way of thinking, really film torture you with discipline that it's gone a little bit from the computer because you once put the scissors in you've been got to join it back with sticky tape" "and bond it through the machine you're much more decisive about that" "has editing got any better?" "because it's infinite the choice?" "I'm not so sure but I'm pretty sure that a lot of movies are getting worse because you manipulate it to death we may lost something the cutting that Lawrence of Arabia when he blows the match up this is recognized that you have a funny sense of fun" "that was the solving script and if you've been on digital as we have on that today you just have to see it in those days, the film were bonded together like that just with the direct cut so when we saw it, we got "wow, that's fantastic"" "just work it, just imagine it, when you feel that feeling digital is unbelievably malleable plastic of imatery and sound and that's seductive, because that's all we do we are sculptors of images and sound it's not that you can't do it in film" "it's just harder to do that and make it look good as digital technology continued to grow computer generated images or CGI were appearing more and more in movies" "visul FX or VFX (Visual Special Effects) have been part of film making since the earliest years" "35:11 camera tricks, lighting techniques, elaborate models and lab processes have all been used to alter realty and enhance the movie going experience on many films that the number is unpredicted you can't go out and shoot" "so the images you need to see you need to be manufactory in somewhere things of visual FX supervisor called on you to understand a huge variety of different aspect of the world around us at any one time you also understand the physics of the way that light reacts of different surfaces" "you got to understand animation, you got understand the way people move creatures move you have to be an artist and a technician at the same time that's an interesting combination originally visual FX was done was the first hundred years of the FX was done" "they were done with models and with film cameras and they are very limit what you can do but a lot of time and energy and people worked a lot to being able to make star wars film" "when I first doing this about 22 years ago the environment I learned it was a physical one, it was a stage miniatures, camera lights and everything in it" "the great thing about making real stuff is you got to use all of your senses and your physical perceptions and stand there are 3 different people and critical modelers talks about how cool something looks like in real lighting is pretty satisfying" "and all those photography was on the optical printer in the end that's a large device that actually compress layers of film together and creates new exposures of the film so you can combine it the layers with images into the final one that you've seen in the movie" "the visual FX department was literately sandwiching one piece of film next to another piece of film next to another piece of film and that really introduces huge mantle depredation" "in 1978, we had just finished star wars we don't find digital sharps in there which were very very cruel the diagram with that part kind of thing but I knew a lot of guys, they were working with the digital film" "so I start a computer division we developed the pixar computer for ILM" "I'm right now with one of our three computer rooms we have here in ILM and what we have here are thousand and millions of cycles of computer power going by every single second so I kind push the staff use as much as they could in ILM" "with this graphics crew that we have the exciting about it was they didn't feel like with a lot of rules they really don't seems like kind of wild west it starts to become possible to scanning film and bringing the film into the computer and make changes to that" "massive advantage to digitizing your film with that you couldn't get any depredation once it's digital there is 1s and 0s they just stay 1s and 0s all the way down the pipe" "(?" ")digital became important for a FX point of view the first path through the system was in the FX arena it was using digital technology to realize visions if you can take piece of film you can turn it into numbers" "you can manipulate those numbers through back to the film but there's no limit to what you could do the entire world is wide open the first real image that we did that was completely digital was in young Sherlock Holmes" "we have a character made of stained glass the glass actually looks real not like a graphic in that sort and it took 6 months and 7 shots which was pretty complicated but it's amazing we got it done at that time" "George was always progressive about digital" "(?" ")and something about the fetch communer you just got comfortable with it really early on" "I was just trying to be a sheep now huh, that wolf's in the world already" "now we are still shooting on film we ain't able to shoot on digital cameras yet but all of the post processes is start in front of line" "how did you going into the computer?" "I would have my hand and then they would take a picture of it and then there was a computer it would do the animation of all look silver and silver hand and they will show you on the movie screen" "our experience on the trilogy what was really interesting with that you realize you are really creating these images in toss you couldn't shoot the image you made the image in the computer" "middle to late 90s" "I guess its standard death... visual FX... where do you get in we have program in ILM doing our FX we have convert from film to digital in order to do it it's a huge amount of money just now we don't have to convert any more" "film is cumbersome so I just want to take my money and my time, I'm gonna fix it when we went to SONY, and we said:" "we would like to help you work with you to build a digital camera he was on the determine that star wars episode 2 can kind be shot digitally that means get all that work out, get pipeline figured out for doing" "our production at digital cameras one of the problems with early digital capture was resolution resolution is depended on many factors but in the most basic terms it is the number of pixels that the camera can record the more pixels you had, the higher the resolution" "and more detail a image would have a typical standard definition of resolution of SD camera usually have a resolution of about 720 ¡Á 480 pixels" "really, the turn-in point was in the year 2000 we came out with F900 camera which was the first high definition camera before that, whatever you look was really look like video high definition cameras record resolution about 1920 pixels across, just under 2K" "in 2002 we did the attack of the clones it was the first major feature that was shot high definition" "what George did in star wars movie was take experimental HD camera and ply it to feature film parallel" "that was unthinkable at that time it meant that it was around the entire film community but more deeply mean it was around film itself it became a really really polarizing time for a lot people in Hollywood we got a lot bit big meetings saying I was doubling carneys" "I was going to destroy our industry, I was going to destroy our jobs in theater that he said he shot the attack of the clones digitally, but he didn't we have the words that he actually used film cameras" "he's not shooting digital, he's lying to everybody with 1900, I thought the images out there is truly appalling" "I think that was a cinematic camera at all in early years, I didn't feel digital capture or digital production was the same they would always say: see, if you can tell the difference?" "and I could tell the difference our first F900 wasn't designed like a film camera of course George Lucas had it shoot star wars like he wouldn't shoot another film on film again and that created quite enough pro in Hollywood" "digital technology and digital cameras looked like a threat to people's existence in way of thinking and way of working film making is an art to the traditional film maker it looks like we were messing around with art and they said why you went backwards, you know what" "but it's a lot said about the necessity, a link back be able to spring forward" "George Lucas putting up together everybody 10 years ago what a conference he gave the ranch up in San Francisco and went object of our roles about the idea that digital will put an end to the old cinematography he point out that it's just another tool" "and that's true when people saw George Lucas's test they said: that's not gonna work it was the same sort of close mind that we're gonna work 10 years to adopt that" "I was gonna wait a little, if someone followed I will be one, I will one and that will be entire" "I know the time is it, it always does" "I can tell this is gonna be the beginning of something big and I want to be there for that but the image sucked the image wasn't bad, but the image wasn't as good as film but it allowed me to do something you cannot ever done" "I picked it in my sin city book, and I know how to do it now" "I got shoot this digital" "I can make it looks just like the book the night is hot as hell upstairs there is a goddess she's telling me she wants me sin city will not exist if I didn't choose digital film" "I wouldn't even thought to do it they wish to do thing that push the art form technology push the art and art push technology" "sin city came out hit people like break eggs they have no idea what they are looking at something hiding from it under rock and hopes it goes away you end it up doing something that people didn't realize was possible" "it's so amazed that which it had that knowing anything is possible the system got better for color and you didn't working of that color space" "after the movie is shot, edited and VFX being added the colorist or color timers in the lab make adjustment to the look of the movie" "in the traditional photo chemical method the negative is developed in print is made timing goes back to the days when there's only black and white these scenes showed the dark room operations of the laboratory in the old days" "I had my job it's looked at the negative and the side how long it would have to stay in the beds if the first wasn't right... dunk, dunk again so, it was time related with the advent of color film" "the timers became more involved into creative process at the lab, the color timer, DP, and director determine the look for the final prints there will be seen by the public in the theaters" "the only adjustment that can make photo chemically are color bands between red, green, blue and brightness our job basically is to achieve the vision of the director and the DP and make it happen on a piece of film" "like I was sitting with the director and the DP and they'll say that is a little bit too red, too smear, too blue and we will manipulated in our minds as how much to change it or to make different cuts balance with each othe" "when the time was on the film they got to do it pretty much from the head by the tuition yeah it was hard, very hard" "so in order to do this there were a lot of art and labor involved in it these people really work hard to that, achieve that" "I still found it very very frustrating that timing process you kind of talking over the thing while it's running and trying to keep up with the cuts and saying that I don't know it's a little science to me" "something in the guys they are trying to write it down, write the footage down as it goes on you can't stop and that seems crazy" "digital color correction tools were first to use for shorter pieces such as commercials and music videos basting time in music videos and we came up some of the craziest and ground breaking visual images and it was just amazing ability to come to a room like this" "and manipulate something to create images that people never seen before" "digital color correction began replacing traditional photo chemical methods of color timing my job is to be able to make sure the creatives get everything what they want make sure the photographer gets the pilot of contrast that he wants and the director gets the feelings he wants around movie" "make sure that we can see all actors eyes and see all the emotion that he wants to see" "I can now start building what we call power window in a power window I can change any kind of view I want" "I just want these trees over on the left" "I can take the color that I want on those trees and I can isolate it now I can change those trees in any color I want the cinematographer and the director coming and we spend a couple of weeks grading the film and give it that look make it look beautiful" "however they want to look" "I had a great feeling that I can do just about anything you asked me to do it in reason who invented this process the same technology people used for music videos create how cool it looks and basically what happened was over last 10 years" "it just evolved and it becomes a lot more free mind" "Over there were art that it was really the first movie where at basically that every single frame was the visual fact" "So its all color times digitally for the look" "So it's a first DI." "It's just kind of..." "Roger Deakins sit in the room and saying" "I can't get what I want in photo chemical" "Because every time I color time this nice golden color I lose my blue sky what am I gonna do it's a little bit yellow isn't it should be sort of more brown" "So he came in to testing actually I sat with him and showed him" "Ok we can key it, what we do is we can basically affect everything in the image except for the blue in the sky also they will ruin overalls so the blue's in wardrobe but everything else like the green trees that are not in pilot that you want" "we can exaggerate them in brown gold" "so out of the successive look for the movie and other people catching on and say woo, I can use that in it just became more and more popular timing is a very frustrating process on photo chemical it's very cruelled, hardly to do anything" "that's a whole thing about DI while I can go in to circle a little thing and make a face a little bit redder and bring out the background I was just in heaven it's amazing I can do anything to success movie" "what I find interesting now looking back to the beginning of experimentation of as a cinematographer like myself" "Going from a film original and the digital world" "Seeking more control of the image and being able to manipulate the image more" "And now we actually have lost control" "Because we then give away our negative, give away our product" "Anybody can take it after that and can manipulate it" "(?" ")this cording is really an important aspect of the final product" "I'm the one that pushing these buttons to make your film look a certain way" "Yes I'm getting the direction but it's a lot of my own confidence to crane that certain amount" "And push that into a certain direction" "So I'm kind of like the last person who really gets the touch of it" "It started to become very adversarial between cinematographer and colorist because they were like "he shouldn't be determining how the film looks like, I do that"" "the beauty of this process is it's a team it could take the power away from the DP but I think it's your job as a cinematographer to try your best to see it through the eye" "They will do everything to make sure they president the DI" "And that will supervise that the dare vision they intend was executed" "In gangs of New York  they offer me to do a DI" "But because everything was built for us what we had on screen was exactly what we wanted" "It didn't have to have a DI to change everything but I'm trying always to do it in camera and with lighting and with filters and lenses" "But not later in the DI" "OK, if you have a special story when you need to change the reality" "Then the DI is something wonderful because you can do whatever you want in the image which can be great, which can be wonderful" "Once we get done digitally clap cracking your movie" "We make a brand new negative and then make a print of that negative then we look at the print versus the data in the side by side fashion" "And we dealt in the print to match the data" "To make the print exact the way it should" "How do you feel about you do all these work to have a pristine and you got to have some prints perfect, and some prints..." "Will you let it go once you created it?" "honestly the truth of the fact is that when you go to a theater" "You watch that prints used to spend weeks of labor on" "Every theater looks different" "They have the lumination on their projector in different level" "The real alter alternatively from the picture we used to worry about is projections or other so many variables" "Sounds could be loud and low" "You can see the head of the actor or not" "Cause they can frame you out, cause they're busy" "They got things to do film come up one reel be blue and another reel be brown because use the projector like we got to enjoy that because that's the part of film it's always a huge disappointment for me to see a film print" "because it's depressing it's not sharp, it does not have any snap it's shaking, it's dirty, I hate it" "I put it in the tremendous monitor effort" "To make my images the way I have them in mind" "And I create them;" "I have them on the finish product in the camera" "But what happens afterwards" "The quality of film is terrible at theater" "And anybody in Hollywood they say:" ""Oh, it's not that of camera, no"" "so they never go to a theater to see it in the real theater" "Titanic plays so long in theaters we actually had our prints fell apart" "They'd early just dropped out the projectors and in pieces" "So we were struggling of trying to get qualities in the theaters" "And out of that came the fact that if it was digital" "You have a brilliant thing, you wouldn't have to scratch it, you wouldn't have to tear it ...the movie has been overwhelming..." "In 1999, we were able to project phantom menace digitally" "We have 2 theaters in New York, 2 theaters in LA" "And that was the first time that major Hollywood movie projected digitally" "There were up to 40 there in this country" "Just for in 99" "By 2002, there were still over 150" "The post flow was already there it is all digital" "And the rest of the industry was going there" "Sound was already got there, Editorial was got there" "The camera is lagging behind" "New companies began to develop high definition cameras" "And the other Hollywood films followed Lucas's lead" "Michael Mann's  Collateral used the Thomson viper a HD camera that outperform film in shooting darker enviroments" "Micheal wants to see into the night and that point is really best time for digital cameras twit up and pushed the boundry on what digital was capable of" "Collateral is interesting that it was suppose to look exactly the way it looks" "The New York outside at night you don't see black" "You see all around the city of" "Green, magenta, purple lights and haze in the sky you just see all these crazy colors the only way that capture them at that time was digitally" "you got a lot of this on night talking on photography going now this just using the different sensitivities of your CCD chips it seizes a little more UV spectrum so you got film makers try to use that to give a different ascetic to night time lighting" "(?" ")but to me it's still of all we're telling the flame of video the viper was the first camera that really told me that the digital age was right jetting up in a tensity" "I can see the foot race and the cameras coming" "In 2005, Panavision, an established force in the film camera business" "Made a serial push into digital with large sensor of single chip camera" "We started looking at this as real format" "And we decided the best thing we can do is design" "What I used to call it a film camera that takes tape" "And that's when we started drawing up the genesis" ""Genesis" is a full frame, 45mm chip that allows depth of field very similar to film" "And we can use all our 45mm lenses" "Which total for thousands, literally" "And we went to the work partner up to SONY on it they design the electronics and we put it together and we introduced the first full frame digital camera" "For making feature films" "The "genesis" was high to hell because it's from Panavision" "And it was so designing A system for Panavision" "The good about it was it took Panavision lenses" "It was with a 35mm sensor" "While the viper used 2/3" sensor people wanted the same feel same look they got from 35mm which caught what you got with "genesis"" "And it gave pretty good images" "We were very careful to design it for film crews" "So the transition, if there's going to be one" "Would be easy for the people making movies" "Dean Semler who was academic award cinematographer, financer of dance with wolves" "Shot  apocalypto down in Mexico where the tempreture was 100 degrees and humility was 200" "And never had a second of down time" "He felt it was like a film camera" "It's 35 ponds" "Fucking cameras this big" "And on the top of it, it looks like film magazine" "The recorder attached to it" "The same way the mag will attach at the top on the back" "I want to see what we just got shot does it a playback off that?" "no, you never touch that like original negative so if you see I get straight you got to spend how many millions developing camera with SONY and I can't play the HD back to look at it because that's the negative?" "where we were in those 06, 07 we had the color space and the revolution but we didn't have the dynamic range so we had to be careful on the sight dynamic range is veto dynamic range is more important than anything to me" "so that really me slow down to shoot digitally if you have thought of the range if the dark and bright is felt like this as shoot in digital you don't have this wide range which fill the heights between the blacks and the lights" "so whatever up here is cut off and whatever down there is also cut off" "I just don't feel how it is allowed to enable me to do what I want to do you can't overexpose by 5 stops and still have something in the image you can't underexpose it by 4 stops and still have traces in the image" "I think you'll find plain in those areas in 2005, Jim Jannard, the founder and owner of the multi billion-dollar sunglass and sports apparel company, Oakley set out to create a new cinematic affordable digital camera digital wasn't paying enough respect to film" "it wasn't as good as film and to me everything in the world can and will be made better the only question is when and by whom there was a technological movements towards the eventual replacement of film what was happening in some of the major manufactures" "is they were creating video level tools essentially HD tools and tried to push that into the cinema and what we saw was that it's not any close to good enough we want to set a high enough target so that was meaningful" "that's the nature of RED we want to help to send the film to the retirement home and have a few good about what took it place in 2007, the RED 1 was available to the public" "this new generation, digital cameras could now shoot more resolution than HD and increased pixels from 2k to 4k" "when I saw the RED I really thought I should call the film on the phone and said: met someone cause I really thought this is the future" "the resolution, the curve, the way it saw like" "I just felt this is a new thing and I was insisted that we shoot CHE on it" "digital at the beginning was really bad, everybody knew that that kind of that camera which was better than previous ones at least it was cheaper, ok, but it's not good enough actually there is a experience limitation of that" "(?" ")it has problems, it crushed occasion of the mob, it's a computer but then again RED ignored everything about normal film camera bodies and use what they thought was right even with the worst stories of being out" "is that the heating had a ice pack on all that stuff none of that bother me because the get was so significant in this case, not having to log film magazines up and down this for days on hand in hundred degree" "whether they are able to shoot on flash card change magazines in 50 seconds that alone was huge frost it resulted in a better movie" "I really love the Jim Jannard's doing, I love what their company's about and I love the tech they took, that's very much no holds barred like let's roll up our sleeves let's get it in and up to our eyeballs, let's figure this shit out" "RED 1 is 9 pounds when put up lens on it is 14 pounds on Social Network I went too many seconds I got to shoot these tiny boats and I think it's like potato chips and I can't add 30 pounds a camera out on this side sail top on this boat" "he said " Ok what you want me to do"" "I said "you got to take one, you got to board out you got whatever you got to do you have to figure out the way you got to give me the indycar version of the RED 1"" "this was on Friday on Sunday, he called me and said:" ""I made one of body in carbon fibers, when you can have about it, it's on my desk"" "and went down, and pick up to it and they were 5 and a half pounds that never existed before for film cameras this sort of immediate calling responds between the people who are shooting and the people who are creating the cameras" "I was desperate to make something that had all the fresh air in and cause when you go to India in Bombay especially it's got life, it's just coming screaming on you all the time in everywhere" "Danny come to an idea, rage, come to an idea of speed energy use and that's what we need on the script and then running, that's it, that's we use in India it's just the most wonderful place of the world" "for a different kind film we wanted the camera would trying somehow catch a bit of that it's about finding camera, the task is there, it's clear my job is to find, with all my anarchic and conventional experience there, to find a tool" "cameras like Silicon Imaging SI-2K have been able to go places and get shots that would have been very difficult with film or earlier versions of HD cameras it's a sensor of computer back on it so do you make a computer look like a film camera?" "or do you say: "the hell of that, take this and ease that cable and connected into a laptop"" "and that will be the SI camera was at that point no one camera in the world is small enough" "Anthony wanted to run into the streets and track the children as they were running and be as the same height level as the kids so they took macbook pros and put them into a bag pack to use for their capture and recording system" "film cameras, even when off the legs or off the steadicam or off the crane still connected on the camera man's body he's either chasing you down the street or he's got it here, or he turns round and runs back with things like that" "with this SI-2K you can do that it's no longer connected to the camera man's body you can do different things with that during the scene it's just literally improvising" "in 2009, slum dog millionaire won the academic award for best cinematography it was the first time that award was giving to a movie shot almost entirely on digital camera so you had the academic award so do you feel like that the film make digital be accepted by the main stream now?" "the success of the slum dog with critics and audience symbolizes something of an epoque it perhaps puts hammers and stakes a little bit in the ground this far was acceptance of digital format it was the first really acknowledgement on the large scale of digital" "I was very pleased for Anthony for that because I think he felt it was some acknowledgement he would never arrive at because he's chosen to specialized too much in the digital world" "I think that was where he goes and everybody changed" "avatar was gonna be my next movie after titanic so I converted to think about it shoot in 3D in'99" "I knew immediately that the only way to shoot 3D, the future of shooting 3D is digital we're starting to an experiment, we took 2 HD cameras side by side" "I thought the result was pretty cool then with Pace I built the vision camera system" "we've decided to put one camera here and another camera on top so what happened in here to marry this two cause there scopicly you need two images exist right?" "correct one of the problems we have was the larger camera is a fact that we wouldn't put them side by side like your 2 eyeballs, right you couldn't put those cameras physically in that position they will run in to each other" "so we use reflect of a mirror and then that allows us to overlaid the 2 camera systems of your imagine form a physical stand point where there is no limitation how close we get these eyes together and that's really important to 3D" "to create 3D 2 cameras works a pair just like our 2 eyes they capture pictures from slightly different angle providing the sense in 3 dimensional depth and distance" "I have a joke of most people all around me" "I long for when the world was flat because it's not only the cameras system duplicated everything duplicates down the chain, right so lensing control over lensing and a lot people said that's as twice as hard than that's incorrect statement" "that's more than that because these 2 cameras have to operate like sign-missed twins they have to mimic each other perfectly" "I think when films are done right and when it really works is when you feels I'm there, I'm in this journey and immerged the story line the fun part for me is to really get this tools in the creative hands" "so people can really take you to place that you never imagine before" "Avatar came out and I was really proud of those images, look gorgeous and it was followed up by Alice to wonderland and how to train your dragon boo boo boo, 3 movies on the markets one after another and all of them were (?" ")" "the 3 of them were the top grossing films of the year so all of a sudden the door just blow wide open on the whole thing people really saw the potential of this as a market this consumptions of films has increased our audiences" "both appetite for them and now knowledge of them so therefore it's getting harder and harder to impress it's one of the reasons why 3D's taking off just a way looking at a film the actor is like a sculpture or something only it's moving and comes out" "and like a combination when theater went film, music and everything" "I hate 3D, I put on those glasses and I get sick in my stomach it's too dark looking through them the whole 3D phenomenon is a marketing fucking scheme isn't it?" "I can safely say as a viewer" "I'm totally uninterested in it" "I'm without any interests whatsoever" "I think it's a fad" "I think it will burn out the studio's not wise to slap 3D on everything with Avatar there is a reason this movie is in 3D because it's taking you on an experience it isn't something that was on for money or a joke or a gimmick" "it's there because it was created that way" "Avatar is 2 completed different forms of film making combine we only use lenses for about 1/3 of the movement it all sets in just normal stuff" "(?" ")lighting, mural, 5 action it was virtual FX to the other 2/3 we never shot a real jungle, we have create a jungle it's all peer modeling every blade of grass, every bug bouncing around" "not one foot film shot in a real jungle you have this idea that you could hold a mathematically perfect model for creating reality you just threw on the computing power at it, you just put software on it cause it's all we found, we required" "artist and people who trained in photography looking at how light interact with those things to figure out how to write the code, to make it look real what I find was that the manipulations the digital made your eyes to do" "they are all seductive but alternately a little bit hollow the analogy I used t use was I remember the summer when chips oil give these chocolate cookies (?" ") soft that's amazing, just soft cookie and and then after a couple of months what's on it is some horrible chemical crap give you bad illusion it fooled you first my concern is that the image alternately with CGI" "I don't know the younger generation is believing anything anymore on screen it's not real you are presenting complete unreality and make them feel like it was real and before it was captured in reality... alright, you've been on a couple of movie sets" "when was it ever real?" "there was a kind of wall, there is nothing over there there were 30 people stand around a guy with a boom mic, the other guy upon a ladder with his ass crack hanging out there is a sit crane, your street night exterior New York was a day exterior Burbank" "what was it ever real we are free of the old technology of capturing images camera, film, lens, exposure it give me more control, more choice, more wits to access what you are imagining in your head" "computers will only get better and better will be able to produce anything you want completely realistic and alternately, if you got enough time, the world is all yours there" "you have to try to outpace study and seize your imagination do something they haven't seen before and every year it getting more and more real" "the artiest and the film maker are constantly trying to up the immanence spectacle and realism so that really put this in a positions of like never before really having to wide technology and art" "that was great about the digital technology it should doubled in everything in one or two years" "once you set your mind on that path it all becomes very simple, it just be a matter of time cause digital is gonna continue to improve camera companys like RED, ARRI, SONY and others are constantly developing new products continue to make advances" "on dynamic range, resolution and color" "I love that all these manufactures are competing against each other to make big cameras smaller, faster and cheaper, better sensored with dynamic range of digital camera up until recently have been limited to really match to 10 stop" "but you don't see that problem in the EPIC or the ALEXA the dynamic range was much better when I was use to with digital up untill the mid-90s, for ARRI, it was all photo chemical we solve the digital technology mature to a point that were" "we began and invite the digital technology the sensor that we used now on the ALEXA camara allowed us to offer a camera that we can proudly promote as a feature film camera the ALEXA takes all of that we are excited about" "in film making and brings those textural qualities that film has brings that definitely familiar color space and only recently I'm realy interested in ALEXA made by Arriflex not heard that it's like shooting film with digital format if I'm push to shoot on digital" "I will take the ALEXA and that could help me get good result" "this is the new RED, we just call it EPIC, so this is, believe it or not, 60% more resolution than the RED 1" "when Jim Jannard showed me the EPIC" "I looked at it and I said: " wait a minute" ""what did that do?" ""how could that free you as a story teller"" "this camera created those beautiful, rich, very natural or very stylisticly wonderful colors" "we've taken a digitally projective 4k images on a gigantic screen and it is absolutely mind-blowing" "the delivery system of cinema is going to change and that's actually more exciting a way for me beside the actual camera cause the ancient system of film on a truck driving into a city and unloading it that being replaced" "the old way of having ship giant film case around is very very expensive so the business realized that there was a tremendous possible savings in digital delivery and digital projection" "we are all want the pristine print, first print of all the negative but we cannot have that so you have to copy it and the advance of DCP is not real copying once it scanned, it doesn't get copied again" "it's cloned, so it's exactly the same thing" "I'm getting more impressed with digital projection as much as..." "I'm not big on technology" "I think digital projections will come a long way in the last 2 years we've sold 10,000 digital projectors into cinemas the conversion is taking place globally we were probably 50% or more there and the rest of the conversion will happen very quickly" "they produce gorgeous pictures and you had to study building up a wave that's why we're gonna up to 200,000 digital screens by 2015" "the model for printing film is endangered and ultimately I hope that it doesn't take film with it" "as a kid, I went to the movies you sat down and looked at a big red curtain and then that curtain parted" "and there is the movie was going to begin right?" "and you went "oh, my gosh!" "oh, this is special!"" "that's my childhood image it's not special anymore it's another thing in a way cinema was a church between a century because we come to this large dark room and sit looked up and think what it would tell you" "enormous amount how to dress how to act be with woman how to act hero" "something is extraordinary about the scene at that age is 40 feet high and in 40 feet high, something mythic about it is beyond your everyday life it's so much big huge span, it should be 80 feet wide" "you should envelop the audience in the screen cause that's cinema--yeah, that's cinema and the sound around you every minute" "I mean why people want to watch movies on their computers I should never know" "I see people watch movies on their iphone in subway all the time... and I went "---no!"" "who might say this is bad, it doesn't have to be bad late at night, my wife sleeps and I can't sleep and I put my xx on my iphone put up good headphone and watch films close to my face" "and this sound interesting about that you've got everything very privately" "I think it was missing I want to cry without people seeing it" "I want to cry without people seeing it, I'll put the steel Magnolias and I cry and if my wife wakes up I just get pause and put it under a pillow and get something interesting about that because you didn't have a chance to experience before" "You can ask on a date no body's like "let's get on the movies" any more" "I don't even felt that's going on, I felt like people like "let's watch something on Netflix streaming on my bed" which was 24 years old guys waiting to get you sit on their bed" "but I think that's what's happening" "I can get any on movie I can get any movie from pad or anything" "That's naturalest thing to me I can sit down and watching but you will not see all the detail that you won't be able to feel it like if you be able to feel... my big HDTV is 20 big" "You mean go to see make up with girls like that" "But that, no, I'm way past that" "Are you sure?" "Believe me" "So many different way for watching movie" "That sharing experience aspect to it" "That shifting, going to the movies" "Well it's also becoming much larger virtually" "Mural space was definitely spanned virtually" "So they're watching movies together in this sort of virtual worlds" "And that will be inevitable" "You had to get the Pheromone to exchange virtually" "(Yeah?" ") how do you bleed and sweat and be comfortable without getting together" "You do that in the theater?" "In your trench coat" "No but laughing together and crying together" "Some way the virtual experience is more rewarding because" "There is a actual dialog going on" "So these 20-year-old does not care" "But there are lots of cinemas in the communal space" "There they just sit in and tell a story getting friends on Facebook or whatever it is" "You got to go with it, if you can't be able to deal with it that's fine, because it means your time is finished it's time for all the people to take it on the kids, 30 and under" "have seen endless digital image on their computer, on their television and that to them is their film" "I just had hoped that these little cameras will make a revolution where you would say the folk films good" "Just do it ourselves so a lot of talent and stuff could be free by less respect" "Everyone is interpreting" "Their reality or what they did their reality through an image, through a lens" "And some kids are really good at it, I'll tell you" "I love digital video culture, or I won't never making with this" "Because I came out as a writer and I thought that as you have certain kind of knowledg and basically my head keeps a thought like a dude who operational machine to do this job" "I think I would be scared to step into that road" "If it had to involve getting a huge camera and get a 15 lightening technicians together" "I was able to experience making movies small private way which I need to do" "What about the 5Ds, what about the DLSRs" "These cameras are designed to the request of APM writers" "So there news photographers could shoot news video for their websites" "That's it then people came along went:" ""woo, I like the look of that, I'm gonna use that"" "And it can work but I hate it being used as movie cameras " " Why?" "It's not good enough" "But they ain't expensive, people can make movies" "If I've been in art school and I have a Canon 7D or 5D" "It would be wonderful" "What are you shooting on tonight?" "7D." "Oh my God, that's 7D" "For my second year of grad film" "I guess it's accessible, give you a lot that you can capture, but it's not super expensive" "I want to shoot with the 7D or 5D primarily for budget reasons" "And because we are given a week in which we have to shoot our film" "And in amount of time we were lose in terms like changing film checking the gate" "And then I would probably not be able to film the soon I want to" "It becomes the very cheap way for us to tell our stories about ourselves" "It takes this art format out of where fighting environment and a lot more people to make art" "Everybody and his little brother has a piece of paper and pencil" "But how many great stories had been written on that piece of paper" "Now the same thing is gonna happen in cinema" "There used to be in conference when film making guys people sat in coffee shop and saying" "What great film they would make if the man would ever give me a chance" "It was kind of great when the day came that it was we go do it" "Everybody can make a movie now, movies are everywhere, that's a good thing" "I don't think so actually, there's less good" "There's more bad because everybody is able to do whatever they want to do" "That's democratization out there, that's fantastic" "But I think my kids will suffer they will not have the qualities we have been growing up" "Cause there isn't somebody there..." "There isn't a taste make involved" "Wow!" "Is this the end of film?" "What do you think?" "I think celluloid is still gonna be a choice" "a transition starts with people offering a new choice" "But if it finished it will take the old choice away" "I don't think techniques are ready to do that yet we have hundred years of experience basically shooting on film" "And film it still around" "No matter what George Lucas said that "film is dead"" "he said that 20 years ago" "But film is not dead because people like to shooting on film because it really has an incredibly beautiful look" "Who cares" "In 20 years from now they wouldn't be saying what looks like film they would be saying "look what I can do with my digital"" "I will be the one last guy shooting film" "Cause no one else would be left shooting film" "But I certain will be use digital technology within the next 10 years" "I hope, if in another 5 or 10 years film still exists" "I still plan to shoot on film" "Is it the end of film?" "Yeah, I guess it is" "And I think in 5 years, film will be film will be exception, I really do" "Film production peaked in 2007" "Our factory at that time was working 110% to produce film cameras" "Then what happened?" "Then the world changed" "New purchases are all digital" "Film cameras can last for decades" "They will be still available and in use" "However, our major manufactures have seized the development of new film cameras" "They no longer make them" "We will have to say goodbye to celluloid it will go away I'm afraid" "And they will be cared for special occasions" "I think, but it's gonna change once that option is gone" "Right" "Once young people don't have the experience" "I think we are living through this total transformation" "I think in general people will fear it's just endless noise no one was able to tell what's good or bad" "No one will be able to make good things" "And good things will just get lost" "That in danger I think, the continuation of our culture" "What will back to me need to back to the wild" "Right" "Where did you get the nourishment of culturally, artistically, intellectually" "Where did you get it" "And an important step of movie making process is archival" "Storing the final complete movie and materials used to create it" "Nobody takes archival seriously" "They're all save it on hard drive" "And if the hard drive on the shelf and a year later" "You load it, it just got "ter...ter..."" "Because they stick" "You don't find them all time they stick" "If You do find out all the time they wear out and go "ter...ter..."" "Since the early 1950s, since the advance of the commercial television" "There had been 80 formats of video" "Today, these 80 formats of video most cannot be played anymore" "Cause the machine simply don't exist" "When we make a movie we have 2 digital copies of all of the dailys" "When you box those how to be stored" "Yet put a reader in with that thing" "I have archival 8 formats for music video and commercials I did n 1980s" "And there's no machine that can play them" "There are no archives or formats or anything in the digital world that you will put any stock in so their archive issues are simply not being dealt with yet" "The only thing you can sure of the on film or anything of the moving image is gonna be around may by for 60 or 70 years from now" "Interestingly enough, ironically enough" "The celluloid" "Film is unique" "Because film is a capture medium and an storage medium" "So if you really want to go back and if you can restore it in the right conditions" "A hundred years later all you have to do is shining light through it" "And you are able to see it" "There were never be format obsolete" "There was a conference in 1909" "Where they put together the standard for film" "While it hasn't changed for 102 years" "I have a film in my nitrogen forms" "I can pull it out and run it on the projector today even know it was made in 1895" "If the point, alternately the archiving is the faithful reproduction of the original product" "Film makers now have a better chance of something I may being showed properly 50 years from now that I ever have in history people keep saying "we don't know what's going to happen in 50 years," ""we don't know how to read the information or" ""it's going to decay, you have to migrated or it will die"" "yeah, sure, you will, and some of the those things are true all of them are better scenario than film" "all of everything in this whole world is stored digitally yeah" "Yeah, there are problems with it" "But they are gonna solve those problems" "I'll guarantee that" "There's too much digital information out there not to figure out a full proof way to storage forever" "Archeology always improves" "So as the way we lose things change" "The way that we invent to find them changes" "So you are not worried about all these disappearing" "Is things are important for human beings we figure out a way to preserve them" "It's always been truth" "Yes we do that part of life" "We might get to the stage where a print of a film" "Is so rare is almost like an art object" "And we can go back and say" ""this is actually a print of film and it's the only one of the world."" "100, 200 years from now there won't be a trace of this left" "And there won't be trace of anything we make now" "So where are we?" "what fucked you?" "I don't believe in one second that digital imaging or digital technology will ever take the way the humanity of story-telling beause story-telling in it on ourselves it's a holy human concern" "artist primordial, science also quite primordial so kind of all these things are very harmony things" "They always had to push on one another" "We are at the top of photo chemical process" "This is about far as we're ever gonna go" "When you are using digital, you are at the very bottom again" "So you should jump over and help to build that" "Cause more people use it, the better it gets" "Unless you are participate into the revolution" "Or you will be lost in past" "We can't call ourselves as "we don't care" "They are up to your guys now"" "So we have to be in it" "Everyone will have access to both the means of the production and watch everything ever exist instantly" "As digital continues to change the nature of story-telling" "We also continue to change" "In ways that I could not even understand" "But all things do that and it becomes a giant revolution" "People love great stories, they let them getting into the world they haven't experienced" "And how they get there, it doesn't really matter" "One shouldn't even think we stop when now we reach digital this is it" "No, no, think about where the entertainment imports" "Where the need is going to go" "Do you feel technologically with where you are" "Dou you feel free" "I'm not sure that I ever want to feel that we arrived, technologically" "I always feel that there is something we can do better" "The people who coming to us gave the world new ace to dream" "I think it's our job to continue that and to try to give people new ace to dream" "Everything comes down to one thing" "If you do something with your heart if you do something convince us to feel about it" "It doesn't matter what you using"