" Starting from the beginning" "I wanted to use different sounds, so I started recording my own drum sounds because anything can be turned into anything." "Producers use synths and most of them come from software that have stock synths." "Everyone ends up using the same sounds." "You can always say that songs have the same melody or chord progressions, that's never been a problem for me because that's pop music in general." "But the fact that people use the same instrument patch every time, has always frustrated me." "There's no studio fees, i don't have to pay for anything when I make any song, regardless of whether it's a throwaway beat I just throw on soundcloud, or if I give it to the roots." "I'm going by like the oldest piano." "And also I want the most expensive piano." " Hm-mmm." " The most expensive one i could find is 90,000 dollars." " Why is it 90,000 dollars?" " Well cause it's..." " Does it sound the best?" " It's going to sound as good as any other, like my free piano." "But..." " You just want the novelty of the expensive" " yeah." " Okay." " Hi, my name's Nick." "I'm interested in the steinway concert grand piano model d you guys are advertising on craigslist." " Sure." "Are you a pianist yourself?" "Or should I have get somebody who can play it for you and that kind of thing?" " Yeah, I know, i know how to use one." " Tell me what this studio is." " It hasn't been founded yet." "That's why we're shopping around." "We have a budget for instruments and stuff." " You have a budget for a concert grand piano?" " Yeah, for sure." "How'd I do?" "Convincing him?" "Music is totally changing and people need to understand that instruments are cool and I definitely mess with them and I love them and they're cool to practice on, but they're novelties." "The entire universe is full of sound, big and small." "So all of these things that we record can be anything." " You said it's for your boss?" " Say that again?" "We're checking it out for him, yeah." " Oh, what does he do?" " He's opening a studio." "Downtown." " A recording studio?" " Yeah." " I see." " And we need a a really nice centerpiece." " What's his name?" " John." "Most instruments were just vehicles to communicate a melody in the loudest way possible." "All that changed with amplification and recorded sound." "And so for the first 100 years of the recording industry, people were like, oh well we can record all these instruments that we've had for centuries, and then we can listen to it anywhere else." "But why do we need those instruments anymore?" "The first instrument, a drum, was made, just because it was the loudest way to communicate." "In Africa they used to communicate between villages and signal each other with drums, but there's no point to them anymore." " Don't let questlove hear that." " This one's a bit faster but..." "This is the one I worked on," "I started this last night, um..." "It's kinda crazy on the drums though." "I mean it's crazy with all the different drums in the background." " Yeah, no I like that." " It might be too cluttered to rap over." " No I think I could." "I kinda like that one." "Or the dots one." "I would rap on that if you wanted to add more to it later or whatever." " Yeah." "That's probably what i would do is clean it up." "Hello, hello." "All right, here we go." " Whad up?" " And then you can play these keys." " That's amazing." " You can go in whenever you want." " Peep the sensualidad of my ambiance gravitas from the top to the Adidas try to photocopy the photograph you don't know the half don't go to the path if you don't know the math sometimes I sniff powders that folded my soul in half" " and laugh as i sip from a golden flask gravitas from the top to the Adidas you don't know the half don't go the path if you don't know the math a stolen pathfinder sipping grass trying to reach behind the ass and touch the vagina" "my bad, I'm clowning, son take problems and drown then in rum" " that sounds cool" " yeah." " When I listen to my songs I just remember being there, the same way a photo will help you remember where you were when you took that photo." "You can take a stock synth and play with knobs and tweak it, but you can't replicate drums that I recorded in times square at 2 A.M. when a cab was honking and someone was throwing up" "10 feet away from me." "It's going to sound like nothing else." "¶ Kool so singer, too big to fail" "¶ oceanic, I'm shamu, the killer whale" "¶ marine world, splash splash splash I'm a dolphin" "¶ big and 'pac mixed in a cauldrom with Leonard maltin" "¶ not, it don't halt" "¶ man, fuck with three women like Robert Altman" "¶ wrote this on the train ride over here on the iPhone" " what are you going to wear?" " What?" " What are you going to wear?" " Um..." "Sweat pants and my white varsity hat, broken in and those Adidas flip flops that have the things on them with socks." " Do you have those?" " And a raincoat." "Wait so you said this was a fashion party so" "I should dress like, high fashion, like really cool stuff." " How many times?" " It's not the same joke if it's different clothes every time." " It's the same joke, it's like." "Stop!" "I did want to quit my tumblr last week, because there was a person who was like harassing me and Nick and causing problems between us." "If it's going to threaten like my relationships, that's when it should stop." "But then, it was like my album was about to come out, it wasn't a good time to stop using my tumblr or else everything I worked for, it wouldn't reach my audience." " You know I don't like talking to people." " That's why I said let's sit down and have pretend to have a very in-depth conversation where no one else in invited." "You can't do that." "You have to look like you're interested." "That's a cupcake, dumbass." "There's frosting." "I'm going to punt this cupcake." " Wish i knew how to play." " What?" "Wish I knew how to play." "I mean, living with someone definitely is always an issue." "Woah, that's pretty." " Especially cause i can spend 10 hours working on one song without taking a break forgetting that I'm even working." "So basically I just want to record the silence in a bunch of tragic rooms." "The silence in a room that's completely empty is different than the silence of a room with 20 people in it and a dead body." " I could probably say that I was doing a project for school." " Okay." " Then they would probably be a little more lenient." "Like if it's a student rather than just a..." " That's true." "And just say that if there's any way we could record just the presence of dead people in the room." " Hi, have I reached the New Jersey, Newark essex county morgue?" " Yes, you have." " Is there any way, we're doing an art project for school, and we wanted to record and film the room tone" "of a morgue." "Is that possible?" " Um." " I'm not really sure we'd be able to do something like that." " No, no, no, not the room sizes, the room silence, like the quiet, no sound." "There's like a certain tone of the room that" " well every family is so different in the way they react to death." "Some are very noisy, some are celebratory, not jumping for joy but relieved that their loved one has you know, there is no norm, I would say." " Okay." " That's what we would want to explore." " Yeah, that's what we kinda want to explore." "How every family is very very different." " Right." " So do you think it's possible that we are able to record?" " No, absolutely not, not during a family funeral, no." " Okay." " That's strictly private." " Okay, well, there are more." " What are you going to tell people whose funerals you're going to record?" " I'm not going to talk to them." "I'm just going to, that's why I need interns, so they can talk for me to them." "Or if you want to do it." " No, I don't want any part of that." " See?" "But you don't want me to have interns." " I don't not want you to have interns." "I just think you should find somebody who you know that's not a crazy 16-year-old girl who wants to rape you." " Okay." "I don't know, I've had a bit more time." "Me and kitty broke up." "And, so I guess I have more time and this whole place to myself to work on stuff." "It just started getting, i guess toxic for both of us" "I feel like." " Well, I stopped by, we got in a big fight." "He stayed awake all night but then when we left the hotel we had to check out because it was the last day of south by." "And I had a show so he was all tired and stuff and he didn't know what to do so he went and slept under an overpass." "He recorded the sounds underneath the overpass and made a song out of it and then put it on his blog and it got all sorts of, all sorts of notes." " Any time we would wake up and log on to the Internet both of us would get like 15 marriage proposals from like complete strangers." "It's easy to read those things when we're in the same room and we've been inseparable for two weeks straight, and be like, oh I guess Nick isn't sleeping with someone in Arizona which he's never even been to." "Those things are things you can monitor, but when things are happening on tour it's just really nerve-wracking and it just consumed both of us." " Like I'm about to go on the bigger tour, that's the scary one because that's the one where I'm opening for Danny brown every night." "And he's like selling out shows and it's really big venues, so I'm like, oh my god, there's going to be 1500 people that don't really care that I'm there at all." "Check, check, check, talking." "Okay." "Do I need to keep talking?" "Sorry." " Wait, what'd you say?" " Oh, I'm sorry." " Who is that?" " I don't know." "No, that's how it always is." " You good?" " Yeah." " I love her, but I just can't" "I just don't know what else to say." "Honestly, recording sounds is the closest I have to having control, over anything in life." "It's always been reassuring that I can record something and then listen back to it." "I'm literally playing with the universe and holding it to my liking." "So that's why I do it." "It's a sense of ownership and control." "Your mom knows I'm coming?" "He's dealing with some of the same annoying things I am, so, he's trying to lay low." "He's outside of the city, so." " Yeah, my mom knows what to cook," "I told her to cook some stuff for the pressure cooker cause that would make cool sounds." " He kinda regressed to being like a high-schooler again." "His mom makes him food." "He just chills in his room." "Like I bet she does his laundry." "He's just being a spoiled teenager again." "You don't have a, a Knicks poster on the wall." " No I don't have like childhood posters, no." " I have disco dancer." " Oh yeah, it's awesome." " So good." " Best song was "i am a disco dancer" ba-ba-ba-bah yeah ma?" "We're coming down though." "My mom said you should get the sound of the open frying" " does she want to be on the track?" " Yeah, she can cry on the track." " No one was really recording on their own until the 70s and you had to be a maniac because it cost so much money." "All the books you read about how you have to record a beat, or how you have to eq something, that all came from people that want to give you guidelines so you don't mess up or break it," "but there really are no rules." "The people who wrote the rules are just playing it safe." " We pointing pistols at the cops and shit until they stop the fucking stop and frisk motherfuckers know the fucking bop to this talk some shit, sit back collect some guap to it" "I was bred in queens," "I collect my bread in Brooklyn with the team it's him, heemy, Hollywood heems, won't stop til i collect bollywood cream" " you have another verse?" "You think you could do another verse?" " Yeah of course." " Heemy spit it for the richest to the poorest man he the purest man" "Duran Duran wolf spirit, blood of the lamb you a waste of space your face like gheorghe mure an the Sonic shamanic he prone to vomit he go awol he see a wall and vomit murder any song if he on it" "demonic scotch and whiskey, me no drink no gin and tonic himanshu ride gnarly til I'm farley, you see same future as the dog in Marley and me or the CIA take me out like Marley, a g" "my will say to bury me with barley and wheat" " that's great heems." " I'm going on tour in Europe in like two weeks." " Oh yeah?" "Damn man." " I basically just wanted to go to Paris because all this drama was happening here." " It's weird, this is the first time" "I've been in Paris where i don't miss anyone." "Generally when I'm here, as soon as I go through an experience i feel like telling my friends back home about it, not in a mopey way, but I don't even know who my friends back home" "are really at this point." "Like everyone I'm friends with is on a professional level too, and I didn't realize it until I left New York, but you don't realize how superficial all those friendships are." "But as soon as you're out of the picture, you're easily and quickly replaced by anyone else that those people are working with or whatever." "And I'm guilty of that just as much as anyone else is in New York." "Like I don't miss New York for once." "Well this is my grandma's, my grandparents' apartment." "I keep saying grandma's because my grandpa died when I was really young, so I like forget that this was obviously both of theirs." "But anytime I'd come to visit Paris we'd come here." "I know that the artwork on the walls is pretty somber." "There's the entire Marquis de sade collection, leather-bound and gold-leafed." "Both my grandparents went through the holocaust, so maybe that influenced their aesthetic." "I need to find a whole one." "They're all like half-skulls." "Oh this one's pretty." "Ooo, you're like rotting." "You're so gross, all of you guys." "I can't tell which one of you's my favorite." "Ah, you look pretty." " A lot of my influences post 1990 I'd say, are rap producers and almost all of them sample." "So I feel weird disparaging everything they do." "But I think maybe that era is over." "That's the coolest organ I've seen." "Look how giant that is." "And then they let these idiots play it every night." "Because they play the same four songs." "But like no one ever plays, uh, like, Eve's who's that girl, or any ruff ryders, frankly, I don't think any ruff Ryder tracks, and dame grease beats have ever been played in notre dame." "So that's a pity." "Oh damn." "This is my grandma's coat." "I'm going to visit her." "So maybe I'll just wear her coat so she can see that we're still ballin." "My grandpa died when i was like seven or eight." "The thing is he never spoke English, he never like learned English." "And it was weird because that's my first language at the end of his life he was still learning languages, and he was watching this really cheesy instructional video to teach French people English so it was a guy doing like the Titanic pose," "looking over a bridge and then he was like." "" I can fly, I can fly"" "and then all I remember is my grandpa laughing, looking at me and being like "i can fly"" "which literally was the first time I even heard him attempt to say any word in English." "And it was just really scary but it was also like whoa, he's speaking English now, he's going to speak English forever, and that was the last time I saw him." "That's me, brushing off my family tomb." "I think some people rely on humanity too heavily." "I love people, but I'm also aware that they're all kinda dumb." "I also aware that there are other things on this earth and humans are just a kind of animal." "I'm tired." "So both my grandparents were Polish and during the holocaust their entire families were ruined by world war ii and the concentration camps." "They would never really mention it, like they since they'd gone through and lived through it it wasn't something that they dwelled on." "Like my grandma would rather complain about the air conditioning in a restaurant than ever talk about how her sister was murdered in front of her or how she lost literally everyone in her family and stuff like that." "My grandpa was married and had a child and at the gate of the concentration camp they separate the men from the women from the children and his wife wouldn't let go of her newborn child and their child so they immediately sent her to a chamber" "and killed her and the baby." "His whole story was super long and mythical in what he had to deal with." "So it's weird, when i look back at it it definitely makes me feel like the most worthless piece of shit ever cause i could complain about anything in the world at all times." "And my grandpa had to eat frozen tree roots in the uzbekistani tundra for a bunch of months" "with no one left in his life." "Cool." "Oh, this is hoppin'" "I've played just as many shows without anyone there as I have shows that are crowded at this point." "I mean it's super fun when there's a lot of people and they're enjoying it, but I guess I'm just jaded by the Internet." "I can post a photo of me doing something silly it'll have more notes than there could be people at that entire venue." "I care less and less about the industry side of all of this stuff." "The most rewarding thing is when someone tells you that they've listened to your stuff so many times that it changed them or it's the only thing that helps them go to a special place." "You want a peanut MM?" " Oh hell, yeah." "Thank you." "Perfect." "I don't know, what'd she say, first door on the left?" "This isn't it, this can't be it." " No this is a medical building." " This is a medical building." " All right where is this?" " Damn, this campus is nice." " It's this one, right?" " Oh, yes, yes." " I can feel the magic already." " No, wait, these are going up." " Well, we're going to 37." " Oh, you're right, you're right." " Is that him?" " This looks like a doctor's office." "Oh great." " Maybe there's another door." " You find the place okay?" " Uh, yeah, it was really easy." " Oh great, okay." "A lot of people get lost in this building." " Ah, not." " Not us." " This is room 3420 boelter hall this was the first site on the arpanet it was called the network measurement center." "So once they got a few nodes linked together, it was here that they did a whole bunch of measurements and testing because no one knew how one of these networks would behave." "And it was through that thing that they did it." " It looks pretty easy, there's a run button." " Yeah, that's all you do." " Just press run, the box is just holding one tiny iPhone." " Yeah, exactly." "Here's people working on the systems." "You've got some kind of world strategy magic game they're playing over there." "This is the fearless leader Leonard kleinrock sporting a" " I saw his picture" " a short-sleeved turtleneck" " I like that." " Beautiful, beautiful turtleneck." " I'm going to disappear and you can do whatever you want." " Okay cool." "Well thanks for the tour." " Yeah, no problem." "You know where I am." " Okay, thanks so much." "It all started because of this room." " Here is the Internet." " This is where typed to some other, had his pants down sitting at this thing and was like send me a nude" " what's up dude?" " And then it came here." "Can I see, with the letter c your boobs with zeros." " Obviously." "Now we wait." " I can't tell if this is a button." " Ooo!" " Did you break it?" " No." "But..." " That's hilarious." " When I started recording the silence of rooms" "I suggested that each room had its own distinct and powerful room tone that was recognizable." "It's silly to think oh there's nothing going on, it's silent, there's nothing there." "We're hearing something it's just that we're not paying attention to it." "So I've been recording all these silences and I wanted to get the silence of meaningful locations, to compare them to see if one place felt different than the other, even if they're not familiar to me," "to see if there was a mood shift of some sort." " Is that your face, is that your picture face?" "Is that it?" " That's the only picture face I know how to do." "Well, Shelby's cool." "I mean, she's cool, she's really nice." "I don't know." "She like light-hearted and seems to avoid drama." "Which is fun." " Yeah that's it, you're getting it." " I'm getting it, all right." " Just take it!" "Oh it's a bad...." " Rock against mountain." " I was going to wait for you guys to leave so I can scream, is it okay if I scream?" " Wait, can I record you screaming?" " What?" " Can I record you screaming?" "I'm recording sounds in here." " Oh, is that right?" " Yeah." " All right, but don't show my face though." " What's your name?" " Uh, John." " Cool." "Okay, scream as loud as you can and try to hold the same note." "That's it." " That's it?" "Excuse me?" "Can you listen to my music afterwards?" " No I can't." " Piece of shit." " What do you want to do after this?" " Um, can you drive me to," "I'm supposed to pick up these firecrackers from this guy I found on the Internet." "He's like a party clown for like birthday parties and stuff and he seems really chill and he just wants to get rid of them." "So and then we can go light them somewhere." " Light em up and you record it?" " There's a school next to where I'm staying." "We could just break in and set them off in the gym or something." " Okay." " I'll show you his thing, he's really chill." "He's like, there's like clipart and..." " And we'll find a place to blow them up." " Yeah, he's just like." " Oh, that picture is creepy." " Keep going." "Yeah so he said he's in a Volvo." " Is that him?" " No, that's not him." "Pull up." "I think this is him." "Yeah, that's him." "Is he getting out?" "Okay let's get out." "You want to park it?" "Park next to him." "Or near him." "He's weird." "Hey, I'm Nick." " You're the one who messaged me?" " Yeah, yeah I'm Nick." " Who's this fucker?" " That's my friend." "I just want like the, yeah." " Roman candles, too many Roman candles, not too offensive you know what I'm saying?" " Uh, okay cool." " In case you don't want to start the uh, tet offensive there." "Sixteen shot happies I got." "You know, that's like bombs over Baghdad shit." "I can't give that to you though." "This is green heaven." " Why can't" " this is this is industrial grade." " How much for, if i wanted all of them?" " I got a 500 grand keg." " Oh this" " that I want." " That'll fly around and buzz and light up and all that shit you want." "I got red and green sparklers." " I don't want those." " For 2.50." " We have big sparklers." " Tell you what, take these and I'll let you have those." " Okay thank you." " What are you guys going to do with all this stuff anyway?" " Just uh" " celebrate." " Yeah." " What are you celebrating?" " Uh, life." "We're just going to celebrate life." " Cause I'll tell you something, something like that, it's like an rpg." "That'll take out a tank, I've seen it." " We don't need artillery." " Weird." " I've seen it happen." "I've seen this melt a face off." "And I'm not even talking about a guy who volunteered for stuff," "I'm talking about kids." " This is just meant to be like a visual expression." " Exactly, we're honestly I'm just..." " What?" " What?" " Supposed to be a what?" " We're just celebrating with fireworks." " To be honest..." " Visual expression?" " Yeah." " Of happiness." " What is that?" " That's what this, these are going to create a visual ambience and..." " All right, fellas." " 16." " 30 bucks doesn't even pay for my gas." " No 46, total." " Is that a two dollar bill?" " Yeah, these are all two dollar bills but we need more of like the pit vipers and stuff." " You just said you didn't want that stuff." " I said..." " It's for visual expression." "Do you mind not putting your hand in my car?" " I'm sorry." " I got my kids clothes and the toys and stuff in there" "I don't want your fingers all over it." " Okay, I'm sorry." " You have children?" " What's that any of your business?" " You told me" " you asking about my family now?" " I didn't ask you." " Don't grab!" "You want something, tell me, I'll get it." "You go into the store you reach behind the counter when you want rubbers?" " Okay." " Okay." " I asked you once nicely I'm asking you again" "I'm not going to ask a third time." " Great, well then." " Have a nice evening gentlemen." " That dude sucked." " What's that shit he's talking about taking down airplanes with." " Whatever." " Who uses fireworks to take down airplanes?" " That's true." " Do not hold in hand." " That's what it says." "But I've never not held it in my hand." " That was cool." "Oh, there's a cool seagull over there." "Humans just have this assumption that humanity is the pinnacle of sophistication and importance on this planet and it's so shallow." "The universe is full of sound, and to think that the human voice is the most important just because we're humans and it's the most relatable, is incredibly shallow." "What if the only type of photography that existed was of other people." "And if someone took these massive landscape shots and if they were like ridiculed and they're like there's no person in there what's the point of looking at that?" "We have photos and videos of everything." "Like I can tell you what a rhino looks like," "I can draw a rhinoceros, i could back in kindergarten, but I can't tell you what it sounds like." " Fuck it." "I grew up right, down along the beach." " On the beach?" " Yeah." " Oh, whoa." " I mean, I wasn't a vagrant." " Yeah." "Where's Disneyland from here?" " Southeast?" " I heard no one's allowed to be pronounced dead in Disneyland?" " Yeah, yeah, when anything happens on the premises and people have died..." " On there." " On the premises of Disneyland or Disney world or whatever but yeah, they take the bodies outside of their," " yeah." " Technical land ownership to be pronounced dead." "It's pretty fucked up, isn't it?" " Yeah." "But.." " Just to preserve the sanctity of what?" "Your bullshit?" " Of the..." " Your total total fucking bullshit?" " I want to be the first person pronounced dead in Disneyland." " My man." " We'll get there." " I got high hopes for you yet." " I wonder what that clown's doing right now though." "I went to my friend bill's funeral, which was very weird because I thought he had died a year before." "He was a really reclusive guy." "He didn't have any friends, he didn't have a wife or kids." "He just didn't like people and the only reason we related was because we both loved music and we both used the same type of technology" "I guess while making that music." "When I met him he was around 85 years old and he lived alone, in the same building, he lived upstairs except he had nothing in his apartment, it was just bare with a wooden chair, a computer." "As he mentioned he was a child of the depression era, so he didn't like wasting money and instead of buying someone else's rendition of a classical piece he liked he would just buy the sheet music which was" "a little bit cheaper, and then he'd transcribe it into midi and have the computer play it." "One day, not one day, i come for like two weeks and he wasn't picking up and finally I asked the super where he was, what happened, people downstairs were just like oh, yeah, I'm sorry he died, he passed away," "I'm sorry you didn't know that." "Well he got taken out on a stretcher and then the next day a lawyer came to get some of his stuff and according to them that means that he was dead." "I took that as a concrete statement." "I was incredibly overwhelmed and I wrote this eulogy and everything." "And turns out few months later I found out he wasn't dead at all." "He basically got transported to some va hospital and then put into a nursing home, which, had I known, it would have been different, because he despised nursing homes." "He passed away about a year after I thought he had already died." "And there was a sign right next to the elevator that said our dear friend bill has passed away." "The service is tomorrow morning at nine in the morning, three hours away from here." "I guess I tweeted that i didn't have a ride to my friend's funeral and luckily a cool person from the Internet offered, volunteered to drive me." " Right here." "Wow." "Zero people here." " Wow." " I was the only person there." "It was so weird." "My initial fear was that I'd show up and I'd be out of place because i wasn't family," "I wasn't like an old friend from the war and I'd have to justify my presence." "I got there and there was no one there." "Literally, I was the closest person to him, which was very unsettling." "Bill knew how much i loved recording and he was usually a part of that." "So, I recorded the funeral." "When I was contacting funeral homes to record" "I wasn't attached to any of the deceased, but bill was such an influence and such a big part of my I guess musical identity, that I don't know, i don't think I was ready" "to prove myself." "The silence of that room is terrifying and I can't even, it's just such a bummer." "I tried to make a song out of the recordings, the silence in that room is too intense for me to really listen to to be honest." "I guess it's the most fitting since he's one of the people that I like confided in the most, musically," "but," "yeah, I guess." "And it definitely makes it more meaningful." "I mean I've used bill in my recordings before, in moon money a lot of the random patches are him breathing." "Now I have him not breathing." "When someone asks me what's the weirdest sound" "I've ever used?" "That's the first question anyone asks in any interview." "What if I told you i took a dead cat," "I ripped its intestines out, diligently spread it over a bucket and then nailed it around the bucket, and then I beat it with a stick." "That'd be psychopathic, to most people." "That's what a drum is." "Cat guts nailed to a bucket." "So I'm the weird one because i throw a beanie baby against the wall and make a snare out of that?" "The silence in this room can be louder than any drum has ever been in the history of the world." "Outer space is the most comforting thought I have cause I like reminding myself we're all just pieces of stars and you make whatever significance you want in life." "But if you're searching for something you're not going to find it it's just stupid." "The fact that the solar system is so gigantic, and the assumptions that the entire world is human based and everything around here was created by a person." "The only things we pay attention to are human voices." "We're just stuck in our human world." " I think there's a lot of misunderstanding about sounds in space." "A sound is simply a pressure wave through a medium, and the medium can be anything." "I mean it could be this wooden table, it could be steel, like the tracks of a train, it could be air." "And if there is no medium to transmit sound, there is no sound." " And is that the case with, I guess sound in the rest of the world what we perceive as silence for example in a quiet room, below our audible range, if we were to record it and amplify it to even" "a deafeningly loud decibel level, is that, what are we listening to?" " The sound of silence?" " Yeah." " Yeah, so." "We have this bias." "Because our human form is all we know." "So the bias is, that what we see and experience in the world is the world." "And that's an extraordinary bias." "It's a bias of our own biology, our own five senses." "And all molecules are vibrating." "Everything is vibrating." "Everything." "If it has a temperature, it's vibrating." " So for that purpose, if everything's vibrating, in our, on earth, does that mean everything's making a sound of some sort, even if it's not close to a level we could hear?" " I think that's fair enough." "Keep in mind if you have an audio recording device you are always listening to the sound after it has moved through air." " Of course." " So be careful not to confuse the sound you're trying to get, with the actual sound of air being air." " Or the room in most cases, if I have to amplify the volume." " Uh, yeah." "Unless you went into a perfectly anechoic room." " Yeah." "Going to pavlov's studies, when he rang his bell to signal his dog, let his dog know there was food out on the table or something, after a while the dog not only responded psychologically knowing that there was going to be food," "but the dog actually started responding physically, salivating." "That's because the dog had associated the sound of that bell to food." "I mean we come across countless sounds in our day to day lives that we're either consciously or sub-consciously attached to." "And we link it to a mood or an idea..." " All the time." " All the time." " That's what music is really." "Music is the organized version of that." " So can we harness those associated sounds?" " Yes." "Completely." " In music?" " I don't see why not." " So, lastly, is there a way we can subtly disguise those associated sounds that we've grown accustomed to?" " I don't see why not." "I mean, what do you do when you isolate a medicine from an herb?" "The herb has 100 things you don't want and the one thing you do want, if it was shown to be medicinally useful." "So you analyze it in the lab, you extract what's useful, you leave out what's not useful and then you make a pill out of that." " You extract what's useful, you leave out what's not useful and then you make a pill out of that." "I think for the first time in my life I'm looking forward to being, to like growing old." "I don't have any obstacles other than my own thoughts now." "And I want to capture the beauty of the world because I think a lot of times it's hard to see it." "Everyone can say open your eyes, the world is beautiful around you, but they say that and the rest of the time they're just hating their phones, they're hating how long the bus takes to pick them up" "they hate their job they hate all of the time and then they'll just be like, but look around you, it's beautiful." "I mean I'm the same way, but, I want to record those beautiful things to remind me, so everytime you listen to the music you hear the beauty." "Fixed  Synced by MoUsTaFa ZaKi"