"The time of bans is over." "or has to be over." "We have had assiduous proponents for censorship in Sweden regarding movies" "Movie censorship for adults lasted for a hundred years." "If the time for censorship is over and the government sanctions." "How should we now, the new authority best act to accomplish everything that I have drawn here?" "CENSORSHIP" " A THRILLER" "State Film Censorship watches everything that gets sent in." "This is how it has worked ever since State Film Censorship started." "The Agency Director is an active watcher of the movies that gets sent in." "State Film Censorship have watched almost 150.000 movies." "And there have been cuts and bans to thousand of titles." "The regular movies are watched by two censors that afterwards discuss different cuts and set an age limit" "But the pornographic movies has been watched alone." "Yeah, it's part of the work" "There is always parts of jobs that you like more or less." "I can't say that I think that it's a fun work task." "State Film Censorship has existed for a hundred years." "But the last decade, there haven't been cuts or bans to any movie." "It's very difficult to moralize over the film-censorship that has existed." "Film-censorship goes hand in hand with the society development at that time" "The sex crazy family." "Perverted games" "Slave girls" "That is just some of the titles of the violent porn-movies that have been seized" "They are now at that State Film Censorship for review." "I understand that people are upset for the many bad movies that they can watch." "It's enough to watch a few cuts that have been done through the decades and you don't understand them with today's eyes, but if you try to watch them with that times eyes then it's not at all hard to understand them." "Now it's time to shut down what has become the worlds oldest movie-censorship" "Instead a modern film-council is going to be formed." "Children and teens media habits are targeted." "Now we have come to a state where it's time to quit the adult censorship." "and that is very reasonable." "It feels sad, a bit unfortunate." "An epoch goes to the grave." "A workplace goes to the grave." "And that is sad." "It has been my work-place for 20 years." "And the reason that I have worked here for 20 years is that it has been nice and fun to work here." "This is one of the more famous, namely a letter from Martin Scorsese." "That we got by fax." "regarding the movie Cape Fear." "That we were going to cut a chin bite from that lasted eight seconds." "He protested against that." "Then I was pretty new here." "That was pretty fascinating, all of a sudden a fax from Scorsese" "How did it feel when one of the worlds biggest directors sent a letter here?" "It was a nice feeling" "Even though it was a bit embarrassing episode." "I received some taunts from friends" "How the fuck can you work at that place and so on." "I had to defend myself with "It's an interesting workplace." and so on" "It was that." "Only a few clips from the 60s that has to be reviewed." "After that State Film Censorship shuts down." "And it's actually the movie "Where Eagles Dare" that I have here" "And there are two cuts in that." "I think that it was cut because it was simply too violent." "The 8mm movies with 60s porn also needs to be sorted." "This is no typical thing that was cut." "This movie I don't know even..." "It's that he forces her head and that was enough at times" "for it to be cut" "Theatre and literature got rid of censorship early but the moving picture has continued to frighten and worry even to this day." "I think that the effect of the moving picture is very very strong." "How that can be, how it can be so difficult to avoid the message in the moving picture." "It's possible that it just to accept, that is that way it is." "You get drawn into fiction, it becomes the same as reality." "It possibly replaces reality" "This is a fucking nice cut." "Markus Öhrn has made an art-movie where he adds together all the cuts that State Film Censorship has done." "It's almost 50 hours long and is called Magic Bullet." "In the beginning of The State Film Censorship it was thought that the moving picture went straight to the watchers mind and like a pinball it was risk that it caused chaos within us." "There was fear that a movie could cause a large mass to act the same." "If you saw someone commit suicide it could cause the viewers to do the same." "There was worris that something could control you that you had no control over yourself" "It was thought that movies could have that power." "Movies got their Swedish breakthrough in 1897." "during the Anniversary Exhibit in Stockholm." "Movies quickly became a low-class enjoyment." "The first theatre screening were watched by Police." "It was feared that the uneducated masses would be agitated and disturb the order of society." "It was assumed that the lower classes were uneducated and easy to seduce." "They could get a lot of dumb ideas." "They could become violent, vulgar or even have dangerous political ideas." "Let's not forget that this was a very turbulent time socially." "Comrades" "The worker and farmer revolution the Bolshevik were talking about has now begun!" "Hurray!" "The lower class organising in Europe was considered a threat." "if the lower class could be agitated by movies, then it was important to control the available movies." "If we admit that we need to be prepared against outside threats." "Then we also have to admit that we need to be prepared against threats from the inside." "Ohlsson is so right (distorted unintelligible) yep" "1911 is the start of the State Film Censorship" "In the early years the cuts are plenty." "It's the immoral and unlawful that they are extra watchful of" "When Hugo Bergh goes to the movies, he thinks that it is an unpleasant experience." "After a screening that shows footage from a real bullfight he writes humanity is a weak vessel if you once get through the pressure of the mysterious game of the masses you'll never know what instincts that can be awaken." "Sweden's future City Minister Per Albin Hansson he is on the same track." "He thinks that movies poisons youth and leads them into a life of crime" "Movies aren't good for people, and by definition then must be bad" "I think that is how they were reasoning." "Especially the large uneducated masses." "It needs to be educated." "It needs to be cultivated." "When you forcefully sterilize someone..." "It perhaps is bizarre to compare movie-censorship and sterilization." "but it's about the same reasoning that lies behind it." "The masses are to be refined The people are to be refined" "Eliminate the bad culture and eliminate the bad genetic material." "It was all done with good intent." "No harm was meant." "At the Film Censorship's archives, about 140.000 inspection cards exists over all the movies that have been inspected." "all cuts are carefully written down." "Marcus Öhrns next project is to collect these cards in some sort of a bible." "If you categorically remove homosexuality or infidelity or" "badmouthing god or sadomasochism if you choose to remove that, then you can see very clearly what you want the population to take part of." "They shouldn't take part of homosexuality" "That's a way to promote heterosexuality in our country for instance." "These archives mirrors the society's norms for the past 100 years in an unique way." "Here we have it!" "State Film Censorship correspondence case 1913" "I almost shiver when I open these." "And the first Swedish Banned movie is somewhere here, 1912...1913 perhaps." "I know that it should be here." "There it is!" "White, which means totally banned." "Not to be shown publicly in Sweden." "Stockholm 20/8 1912" "The Croft-girl and the Gardeners son love each other, but the gardener is against the party." "Combating against good practices, law bewildering through death in beauty." "The Gardener from 1912 was directed by Viktor Sjöström." "He was Swedens largest director at the time." "He was caught off guard by the censorship." "It was a big shock." "They never thought that it could happen to such a recognized artist." "It was just the cheap sensational movies that showed fights and such that had no cultural ambition." "The main character in The Gardener gets raped by her lovers father." "Then she walks astray in life." "At the end of the movie she returns to her offender." "Curses him and kills herself at the same place where she got raped." "All this combined led to a total ban of the movie." "It's first in the 60s that people start to dare question the State Film Censorship decisions." "For the second time in more than 45 years," "The State Film Censorship have banned a Swedish movie." ""491"" "It's about a gang of wild youth living in Stockholm present time." "Here comes a young Wilgot Sjöman and makes a movie with political power that shows things that have never been shown before." "Does it exist people and actions that you have shown in your movie?" "Sure, they exist." "They end up in juvenile detention." "They roam the streets, mostly at night." "You think that this is repulsive." "This is damaging and exiting." "It can be violent and perhaps show things that you don't want to see." "If the movie is released, it can be an argument against the government that it works against moral bonds and de-christianization." "The movie finally gets released." "But a few of the rape-scenes have been cut." "10 years later another Swedish movie appears, that also has a raped woman as the main character." "Thriller by Bo A Vibenius" "But now the violence and sex have become more graphic." "And the raped woman is determined to take her revenge." "Christina Lindberg plays the leading role in Thriller." "and she has inspired (among others) Quentin Tarantino like here in Kill Bill." "Here I have a lot of things." "Let's see if we can find..." "In one of these my eye-patch should be." "Here we have an authentic patch." "I could sell this for quite a lot of money." "I guess." "Let's see if I don't have..." "Today Christina Lindberg is publisher for Europe's largest aviation magazine." "But she started her career in the 70s as a nude-model in mens magazines." "This is a shoot I did for Penthouse." "I think that the images were aesthetic, tasteful and simply beautiful." "I didn't agree with the woman's-movement." "I think that I did the women a favour and not a disservice." "Because I didn't undress my soul, I just undressed." "Literally." "These are from Rötmånad" " Dog Days "black comedy in archipelago environment"" "Christina Lindberg gets her first role in Jan Haldoff's "Rötmånad"" "That gets followed by more offers." "What the fuck, there comes a car!" "Who could that be?" "We have our clothes up at the house" "That's true" "That was one of my advantages in movie and photo relations" "I looked very young." "It was probably some sort of Lolita image that I fulfilled." "Curvy, well developed and had almost a child's face." "After Sex and Fury, Christina gets the role as Madeleine in Thriller." "she plays a woman that has become mute after a sexual assault as a child." "After doing some lightly dressed roles I thought that I finally got something substantial to work with." "I don't know if I want to watch." "The mix of violence sex and revenge was way to strong for The State Film Censorship and for the critics of the time." "It became sour." "The violence was criticised and the movie was banned and cut into non-recognition." "It got exported pretty quick." "It has lived it own life, until today." "All my movies are now Cult movies, including Thriller." "People get more and more nostalgic and remember this time as an innocent and fun time." "and I think that people are fascinated that these kind of movies were made in Sweden." "A lot of people haven't understood that and thought that we just have Pippi Longstocking, Ingmar Bergman, and a fucking lot of Beck and Wallander movies." "There are a lot more movies that have been made, it's that I find exciting to highlight." "Are you happy now?" "Are you happy, Leander?" "These are movies that have been directly exported or at least been heavily cut by Swedish censorship" "They often tell a different story than the Swedish movies we have been used to see" "Thriller is unique when it comes to Swedish film Anything similar has never been made." "It's extremely violent and sadistic yet it's very well done." "Bo A Vibenius who made it used to be Assistant Director for Ingemar Bergman" "The exploitation movies made during this time are violent erotic and loud, and show that violence can be something beautiful" "I like the aesthetics in these movies." "I like the entrepreneurs that made these movies." "That wanted to do something beyond the usual." "They didn't shy away from being different" "Without that type of movies and directors there hadn't been a Quentin Tarantino" "There hadn't been a Silence of the lambs" "There hadn't been a Robert Rodriguez" "All those directors are strongly involved in that time." "The ending of "Thriller" got cut by The State Film Censorship" "Looking back, it might be the movies strongest scene" "And without it the whole story becomes somewhat unintelligible." "Censorship is per definition a matter of taste and opinion." "and personal taste of the censors." "All this is about class." "Social class definitely" "Almost everything that was feared was directed towards the working class." "To people that aren't that well read." "It has always been about "we" and "them"." "I can cope with watching and reading this stuff But it is the others that I want to protect from it." "And that Von Oben attitude, I find repulsive." "but that permeates the entire debate." "has always done it" "There is always someone who knows better." "Everything has it's time." "And you have to see the work we did in relation to that time." "But I shouldn't deny that there is some moral dilemma." "We were going to cut, ban and most of all put a limit to freedom of speech." "Ann-Catrin Agebäck worked as a movie-censor for fifteen years." "And it was mainly the extreme violence that she should guard against." "The movies that were examined were mostly from USA" "In USA it has always been more allowed to show violence." "It's such an important part of the American society." "The right to bear arms." "The right to defend yourself." "If we hadn't had so many American movies." "then we wouldn't have had such a range of violence." "Violence is something that everyone can understand." "Take a movie-story where someone solves a problem by talking about it... solve the problem with a fist to the face instead." "Much more story telling effective." "When the big world comes in to the small society with a range of movies." "then comes a bad influence from the outside." "It has throughout the film-censorship been a red flag that if anything has violence, then it's fishy." "Violence is harmful." "Violence itself is harmful." "It is filth!" ""The longest yard", "The Texas chainsaw massacre"" "that our 14 year olds or even schoolchildren doesn't need." "The American Violence-romance was considered contagious and towards the 70s the violence was considered a weapon working for the human animosity." "Most of these movies were about revenge." "It was about a single human that was a victim of an extreme violent crime." "turned to police and authorities to sort out the problem and no help arrived." "Then they took law and justice in to their own hands." "Then they went out on a revenge-spree on society." "Of course this was absolutely opposite of the Swedish Welfare state." "Here in Sweden we have always taught our children to never hit back when attacked." "told them to come home, tell us and we'll talk with the teacher and the other parents." "We shall solve this." "We shall have a discussion about it." "Until the 80s, movies could only be shown in theatres." "Or on the two state owned TV-channels" "Then it was relatively easy for the censors to stop the violent content." "But when the video arrives everything changes." "How should the violence be stopped then?" "Good evening and welcome to tonight's episode of Studio S as you may have noticed, we are a bit later than usual with tonight's live broadcast." "and this is due to the fact that we will be showing some nasty violence footage." "He holds the video-tape and says :" ""This is how it looks"" "you put it in the recorder like this and then you press "play"" "Then you can sit and watch for instance feature movies." "and then all the worlds horrors shows itself to us." "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre." "We had never seen anything like it." "We had the cinema." "and we had TV1 and TV2." "That was it." "Have you seen "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre"?" " Yep" " It was a murder of a lot of people How?" "Saw them in half." "Hang them on a meat-hook and saw them in half." "These movies have already been stopped by the censorship Or the distributors didn't think it was worth even trying" "But for Video there were no laws." "They could go "all in"" "Studio S was watched by 25% of Sweden's population the notion "Video violence" got stuck in everyone's consciousness." "I haven't seen this before." "I think it's really horrifying." "I was also chocked." "Even as an adult, I had problems sleeping." "Death, bodies, blood is nasty." "You feel bad watching this." "This kind of violence actually happens in reality" "Hello and welcome!" "Come in!" "Michael Solen plays drums for the rock-band Sator." "he early became a horror movie fanatic." "I remember the TV-show quite well." "for me it was just..." "I started writing down.. "Boogeyman"" "I have to get it!" "A place outside of Borlänge had a video-store that rented out movies "from under the desk"" "Cannibal movies and whatever it was." "We sat in groups and watched." "We felt like nobody was going to tell us what we could see." "I felt it then already." "I mean 18 years old and I decide myself what I want to watch." "The horrible thing is that our kids are watching this without we knowing about it." "and that is what we need help with stopping now." "And you call for an opinion." "There is an opinion." "We write lists." "We write the Video investigation." "Nothing happens." "They are investigating and say that they can't change the laws." "You have to change the law" "After the program, a record fast investigation is made that creates a law-change suggestion against video violence." "And on the Social-democratic congress, The S-women decides that every video on the market has to be previewed." "I think that it's a bad freedom. (S-Woman)" "For our youth to be allowed to watch these sadistic-movies." "Sadistic-porn movies." "Pornographic movies." "I think that is a bad freedom." "It's not the kind of freedom that I want." "But this means that all the videos and shows needs to be previewed first then?" "yes" "24 video-controllers are also hired to be available in all counties." "Hello." "My name is Olle Vikström." "I am a representative of the State Film Censorship" "And then I ask you, do you have Bizarre Hausfrauen?" "That's some porn right?" "No, I don't have that one." "If there are unmotivated acts of violence." "If there is porn-violence, or other violence." "Then the limits are foggy at times." "Do you have anything back in storage?" "No, nothing in storage." "I have the videos for sale over there." "Do you have any movies "Under the desk"?" " No I don't have that." "Are there ever customers who ask you to order this movie for me without leaving his name?" "Nope." "But for those that wasn't upset by violent movies but instead wanted to watch them." "They had to be inventive." "Mikael Solen started a Movie-club." "The gates of hell" " The seven doors of death." "A real classic." "The movie-club was a way for those who liked horror to meet and discuss effects, directors and storytelling" "Lets take this Cannibal Ferox." "Banned in 31 countries as it says on the cover." "That makes you want it." "You get a vomit-bag with the laser-disc." "That is a plus." "He bought a laser-disc player." "Ordered movies from Japan." "And had closed screenings of banned movies." "This came in the beginning of the 80s." "I liked to be frightened." "Oh I jumped." "A chill." "A nice feeling." "Sitting there and not knowing what should happen." "Almost with my hands covering my face." "Something there fascinated me." "So I enjoyed those movies." "Now I can sit and watch the news and think that it is even worse than the things I saw back then." "Movies are as dangerous as narcotics." "The goal is to make people think." "The entire society is involved." "To make people themselves sanitize what is shown." "Then we can ask ourselves, what should us parents do?" "To bring forward a nice view of humanity in a democratic society" "Parents and schools participate in the war against video-violence." "There is a strong support from the population for stronger censorship in the 80s and the entire 90s." "It's mainly the children that has to be protected." "But the calls for censorship also applies to adults." "It was actually that way we thought back then." "That this could cause more violence in society." "What people watch, that influences them in a way that might even change their personality." "People that might become violent from watching violent movies." ""Sökarna" 1993 AKA "The Seekers" or "The Searchers"" "Towards the 90s, youth violence and some death-shootings are debated." "At the same time the movie "Sökarna" is made." "And becomes the straw to break the camels back." "State Film Censorship wants to make cuts to a Swedish movie, for the first time in 19 years." ""aww, you coward!"" "If we do what they want and cut this movie then you might like these persons and think fuck, they are kind of cool." "So you mean, that by removing these scenes there is entertainment violence in the movie?" "Yes" "There is no way that by cutting four minutes out of this movie, that it has become a nice movie." "We haven't chosen sides to your ambitions." "We have chosen side to what effect it may have." "We sit here, and you adults are limited to your world." "You get confused and wonder how can this look like this." "And you have made it to youths as well." "Now it's best to take some action against it." "Because this can glorify violence." "You don't know what you are talking about, in my opinion" "You don't know either what you are talking about." "No, that is your opinion." "This is a discussion that you could continue for some time." "Will the movie première on Friday?" "I suppose so." "We don't intend to stop any première." "You only intend to cut it." "Suck, suck!" "You filthy swine." "You pregnant pig." "Gunnel Arbäck (ex head of State Film Censorship) and "Sökarnas" director Peter Cartriers haven't seen each other since the TV-debate 15 years ago." "I don't know what to say" "This is going to be interesting because I remember the images from all of these clips." "Is that true?" "Yes that's true." "It actually was quite a brutal film." "Yes." "And, I don't know if we were caught a bit off guard by the depiction of violence in a Swedish movie." "I fucked her in the ass so it burst." "None of us were used of seeing it in a movie were people talked Swedish." "and where you recognize the actors as Swedish actors." "Theoretically that could cause a stronger impression on the viewer than the American movies, that are very American." "It's clear that the marketing and PR of the movie benefited of the censorship discussion." "another debate and grown interest to the movie was given." "Everybody that were interested in that kind of movie, wants to see it and the cut footage." "It's clear that it was good for you in several ways." "What the fuck are you doing?" "You are taking my line as well!" "Don't give a shit about that and you'll live longer." "Fucking idiot, what the fuck do you think?" "That fucker is impossible to work with" ""Sökarna" becomes the last Swedish movie that gets censored." "But the debate that "Sökarna" contributed to, has strengthened the connection between movie-violence and real violence." "...fucking psycho." "I SAID HE IS COOL!" "OK?" "I have seen infinite amounts of violent movies and I think that it's time to drain that shit." "We are simply speaking in terms of censorship." "A reason to the increased violence in society is suspected to be all the violence in Movies, TV and Video." "It was always found some old video-violence movie at the home of the perpetrator." "ah, he has seen that movie!" "That's why he has committed this crime." "His name is Mattias Flink and he is 24 years old." "When Mattias Flink kills his victims, it's said to among other things be caused by his weapon-fixation." "And he loved War-movies and thought of himself as a real elite soldier." "Partly it's about... it's very easy to put a equal sign between fake violence and real violence." "since it looks the same." "It's very easy to say Yuk, I don't like that!" "That is unpleasant." "If I think it's unpleasant it must be harmful." "ANSWER DIRECTLY" "I would like us to watch a quite unpleasant scene from a movie called "SALO"." "It's a Passolini film" "Praised by the cultural elite, where many think that this is a movie that has to be seen because it's an important cultural movie." "I'd like to warn those who are watching." "Be careful and rather close your eyes during this." "It's completely unexplainable that this kind of movie can be allowed." "I almost think that we are insane in this country to allow something like that." "Who?" "our children that sits and watches this that are in their teens." "Perhaps 14 or 15, what should they..." "The public agitation affects the media research." "and not least, the choice on what authorities should get attention." "The language researcher Ebbe Lindell is simply titled "Professor" in Sievert Öholms program." "I have among others in my papers a report that shows 1043 effects of different TV-programs." "Anti-social programming results in aggression and violence." "Pro social programs result in positive behaviour on humans" "What is it that makes you so able to say this clearly when other researchers are very uncertain?" "No, they can't be uncertain because..." "If you perform a real shitty research on human reaction to movies then you will discover that people that watch violent movies tend to be more violent than others." "Of course we are influenced by movies and TV." "I mean we are influenced by books and magazines as well." "Perhaps there is even some poor fellow that watches this program that's influenced by the things that I'm saying now." "But that doesn't mean that just because it's violence that is going on that it influences me to want to do violent acts myself." "That connection is not there." "Young men with destructive home environment and heavy psychological baggage are overrepresented in violence statistics." "Why they should be aggressive has nothing to do with movies." "but has to do with hard to solve problems with class and alienation." "You can get instructions on how a violent crime is committed but there is very little support that the violence itself causes violent people." "There never became an obligatory preview of video-movies." "That would have been an insurmountable task." "The video offerings just got more and more." "Today video-violence is considered as something common and natural." "After all debate that has been about American cultural-imperialism you have to point out that we indeed get influenced and changed by the huge amount of violent movies." "Something that feels significant when visiting The Sci-Fi convention in Stockholm." "Hi there!" "Where have you been all my life?" "You have to stand at the other end." "Show your self." "Come here so that they can see." "A lot of people tattoo the Thriller-figure on their arms and legs." "Nice." "Now it's immortalized." "Because they have done this character again in the "Millennium"-movies it is obviously a strong character that holds up and it's even more current today." "than it has ever been." "You see a strong female image in this character" "A woman that with violent violence takes charge." "Christina Lindbergs relation to the film violence is complicated." "She is a bit doubtful that strong violent female characters are seen as feminist heroes." "even though she has played the part herself." "I find it a bit odd anyway, that it isn't watched from the violent perspective instead and ask yourself if it is a wholesome and good image?" "actually" "I don't think so." "If we take the worst parts from the mens world then we become strong women." "I can think that is really odd" "But, I don't know" "It looks that way today." "The final movie violence cut by The State Film Censorship is done in 1996" "It's "Casino" by Martin Scorsese that gets about a minute and a half cut." "Porn-movies continuously get cut." "And by the end of the Millenium, the debate is back." "When porn becomes norm it's not strange that 13 year old girls have both group sex and advanced sex." "But then it's about that The State Film Censorship itself has become jaded." "That the censors have released way to strong sex-scenes that then has been shown on the cable channels." "The documentary "Shocking Truth" starts it all" "I chose quite a lot of scenes from the series called Shocking Truth it was about a thesis that our sexuality is characterized." "It just isn't there it is characterized by what you experience and especially what you watch and that is information that you are receiving." "Shocking Truth is shown in the Cultural Building and then it's shown for the parliament." "(member of parliament) I am moved." "I thought that I had some clue on what is going on in this business." "Obviously I don't." "The cultural minster herself wants to sharpen the law regarding censorship in porn." "We have been shocked." "We want to break the development." "We want to do more." "This is group rape." "This is violent porn." "And this is something that we don't want." "The scene that I and others reacted on was when the group of men wearing large animal masks rapes this woman." "One man after the other." "At the same time as the "Shocking Truth" debate is going on a group-rape is committed in Rissne." "The trial against the seven boys has caused a lot of emotion." "At the same time as the relatives are angry against the large media attention others are protesting that the offence is just sexual abuse and not rape." "Porn and the real sexual violence gets connected." "Where did these guys get their inspiration from?" "You can't say that this is something that has been part of the Swedish society and our culture." "it was not." "To group-rape?" "No." "It was at least nothing that was known." "But all of a sudden there were a lot of rapes that were very violent against young girls." "And it was done by young guys." "And it's clear, that everyone that worked with youth started to look at it and then it was found that one source of inspiration could be these movies." "That group-rape should be something Un-Swedish sneaks into the debate." "The myths affects the politicians." "The politicians can't look away when mass media starts about a myth." "They have to say Let's do something." "Crime preventing council (BRÅ) feels forced to do an investigation." "The group-rapes in Sweden have decreased during the 90s." "That is shown by a BRÅ-investigation." "The Rissne group-rape that attracted attention is a very uncommon event says BRÅ" "Most offenders are Swedish men with Swedish parents..." "There is no research that supports that porn should lead to more group-rapes." "But that porn changes our sex-habits." "That's possible." "Love and sexual activity (by Swedish standards) is always connected to deep love, respect and equality." "Everything else is a threat." "A lot of sadomasochistic movies are released in the 70s." "and they affect the mainstream range of porn." "The movies depict sexual pleasure through exercise of power and submission." "The prevalent society view on sex, love and family has during the entire 90s influenced what the censors have cut." ""complete submission"" "I understand that it legally can be difficult to understand when someone is tied against their will or not." "It has been ignored." "The censors didn't want to touch it to avoid discussing then they would end up in a messy situation" "What is then pleasure?" "It has been very difficult to understand that you can feel pleasure as a victim then it has been decided, let's not go into it, let's cut it instead." "Then there are some cuts that stands out." "This is a very telling cut." "Haveyouonlybeenwith females?" "No" "It is two chicks that have had sex (we can understand)" "How has it been with guys then?" ""Come In My Bed" 1968" "And that they lie talking about that they have it better with each other than with guys." "Bad, I think." "That was chosen to be cut." "It's a clear indication to an attempt to save the nuclear family's values by cutting anything that points in a different direction." "It's clear that State Film Censorship has committed abuse." "That is for sure." "With video, cable-TV and later internet the censorship lost control over the movie range." "But the debate has continued." "now it's about violent video-games and youth's internet habits." "and it is that The State Media Council will work with." "Today, it is time to attack coming media problems in a new way." "our ambition is that youth should be armed with media knowledge and that way we can avoid harmful media inspiration." "There is no more adult censorship any more." "When State Film Censorship shut down at the beginning of this year" "It was celebrated by everyone as a win for freedom of speech" "We get rid of the last State Censorship in Sweden." "but that doesn't mean that we live in a censor-free society." "moral shall guide us, but that isn't directly censor free." "We could say that we have turned a 360." "It's yet again the immoral that gets battled." "Just like in the beginning of film-censorship." "Every night, "Stureplan"" "you meet nice men that pay for small services." "*unintelligible*...embarrassing." "and that is something that should be done anyway." "You wanna hang down the street tonight?" "I can get a John for you as well." "Now it's schools, museums, web-pages and media companies that censor their own material according to their own moral and ethical guidelines." "It can be said that our ethical guidelines are that we don't want to show this." "but when we had a Government Agency like the State Film Censorship used to be then there was always the possibility to appeal and take it to court." "That can't be done with an ethical guideline." "Perhaps it's like this." "It's comforting to know where the power is." ""a movie from KSPECIAL""