"CARL WEATHERS:" "This is competition." "It's not just a movie." "Arnold is not going to let you have it easy." "LOU FERRIGNO:" "He's very slick, and very cunning, and very clever." "He can be ruthless." "RAE DAWN CHONG:" "Arnold Schwarzenegger is" "Mr. Universe, a movie star, he's the Governator." "He wants everything." "He doesn't just want to be a movie star, he wants to be the king of the universe." "♪ ♪" "PETER KENT:" "The term 'larger than life' applies inherently to Arnold." "There's this aura emanating off the guy, and you feel it when you're around him." "One thing I really noticed when I first started working with him." "I had done, you know, the high school plays, local theater." "I wanted to do more of that." "I went out to a Halloween party, and I dressed as Conan, and I had fairly longish hair at that point." "I did the full black makeup, those slashes across the face, and a sword." "♪ ♪" "That was like the foreshadow." "WEATHERS:" "Suddenly we had this over-the-top, superhuman kind of body that was more and more acceptable." "And guys who could take off their shirt and look really muscular and cut-up and super-developed became more and more important in terms of what you saw on screen." "L. FERRIGNO:" "You never saw guys like the way we're built in the film business." "We were always looked at like, muscle-bound freak." "Arnold changed that." "He did Conan the Barbarian, they accepted him more as an actor." "KENT:" "I don't think I really had stunts in mind." "I went to Los Angeles in 1984." "Sold everything that I owned, got a plane ticket, grabbed an airport bus that said Hollywood on the front." "I can still remember sitting right behind the bus driver." "He says, 'You know where we are?" "' And I'm like, 'No?" "'" "And he said, 'This is Hollywood Boulevard." "This is it.'" "'Okay, I'll get out here.'" "I didn't know anything about casting, and every morning I would faithfully call all these numbers looking for work." "And six or seven months in, and this one company called me back and left a message for me at the Y." "And they said, 'There's this small movie that we are casting called The Terminator." "And the director saw your photo, he wants to see you.'" "I walked in, and there was James Cameron." "'You're here for the Arnold thing, right?" "'" "And I said, 'Yep.'" "And he looked at me and he said, you know, 'Stand up.'" "And I stood up and he checked me out, and then he says, 'Yeah, you'll be fine, you're perfect.'" "I was like, whoa, I got a job." "Whoa, I got a job!" "Alright, alright, my first job in Los Angeles." "But before he went back in the office, he stopped and he said to me," "'You've done stunts before, right?" "'" "And I thought, 'Oh, man, what if I say no to this?" "'" "And so I just said yes." "And he goes, 'Good!" "Sign him up.'" "The only person who knew that I didn't have any stunt experience was me." "The very first night of shooting, you know, all the lights were on, and kind of walking through, the lights in my eyes, and there over in the corner was Arnold sitting there smoking a cigar," "staring at me, watching me walk towards him." "And as I got to him, about this close, about ten feet away, he goes, 'Too tall." "No good.'" "Ugh!" "I thought, I'm fired before I've even begun!" "And then he goes, 'Yeah, you're fine.'" "ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Your clothes." "Give them to me." "Now." "KENT:" "Three nights later I found myself driving around shooting a shotgun out of a car window." "I thought, this is awesome!" "[gunshots]" "In the scene in the police station when Arnold first comes in and he douses the lights by reaching into the power box and tearing the 220 line off and kind of arcing it out," "Jim said, 'Grab the cable, rip it out with some force and plunge it back into the box.'" "And I'm like, 'Okay.'" "And he goes, 'Well, we're going to set that up now." "So, you know, go away and come back in 15, 20 minutes.'" "So I went back into Arnold's trailer." "I'm sitting there and he's like," "'Yeah, Peter, what are you doing now?" "' and I said, 'Well, we're doing the cable thing.'" "And he's like, 'Oh, yeah, Peter, you should be careful, it's live, it's very dangerous.'" "And I was like, 'Really?" "Oh, okay.'" "So now, I go in to shoot the shot, and my hand starts shaking as I enter frame, and James Cameron says to me, 'Cut!" "Cut!" "'" "He goes, 'Peter, what are you doing?" "You got to hold it tight." "The Terminator's got purpose." "He's determined." "You know, he's a machine.'" "And I'm like, 'Well, it's live, isn't it?" "'" "He goes, 'What?" "Live?" "What live?" "That?" "'" "And I said, 'Yeah, the cable.'" "He goes, 'Of course it's not live." "Who told you that?" "'" "He goes, 'Wait a minute." "Arnold told you that.'" "I'm like, 'Yeah.' He goes, 'Oh, geez.'" "Yeah, he was laughing." "Arnold stays relevant because he played so many iconic characters, and then there's the bodybuilding-- the greatest bodybuilder that ever lived." "He's redirected himself towards the political area." "Just this big, big energy, and focus and drive at anything he does." "♪ ♪" "MARK LESTER:" "I went to a party at the Playboy mansion, and I was sitting there in my pajamas, and, you know, looking at all the girls going by, and next to me was Joel Silver." "He said, 'I have a new script you might be interested in, it's called Commando.'" "I said, 'Well, can I read the script?" "'" "He said, 'No, if you read the script, you're never going to want to do the movie.'" "So I said, 'What?" "'" "He says, 'Yeah, you know, the script's just an idea right now.'" "I said, 'Who's in it?" "'" "He says, 'Oh, Arnold Schwarzenegger." "You know, we're talking to him, but we don't have him yet.'" "So we went over to Arnold's house." "To me, he was already a legend by that point from Terminator, so my heart was beating really fast, and I went in there and, you know, we were all like facing him, and we were all like," "he must do the movie, 'cause we had a deal if he said yes." "The writer pitched the story and acted it out, and we were very nervous, is he going to like this or not?" "He says, 'I'm not a Conan the Barbarian," "I'm not a robot, I can be like a real person here.'" "He was saving his daughter." "So he loved all those aspects that he could be human, and actually have an actual acting part." "We were trying to find someone to act opposite Arnold" "Sharon Stone, Brigitte Nielsen." "There was many, many girls that came in, and they all read, and it was all coming across quite flat." "♪ ♪" "RAE DAWN CHONG:" "I was able to book an audition for this weird little movie called Commando that was written for a white woman, blonde, to be with this guy, Schwarzenegger." "I had on a very short skirt, and I introduced myself to Schwarzenegger, and I said, 'I love you." "I met you when I was nine years old.'" "That's what I said." "My dad, he's a big bodybuilder, so he would take my sister and I to Muscle Beach, and he would go pump iron with Arnold and all the '70s big guys, and we would play on, in the playground all day." "And that's how I first met Arnold Schwarzenegger." "I was nine." "And he was very sweet and gorgeous and, you know, delicious Arnold." "But I'm sure he didn't remember me, I was just a kid." "But he did remember my dad, and that helped." "Now, the trick about Commando was that there was a part in the script where there was a dildo that the stewardess pulls out of her bag, and she owns, you know, she says, 'Oh, it gets lonely on the road,'" "it was some crap line." "And I remember reading the script thinking, before the audition, all the actresses are choking on this." "It's not working, right, 'cause it's not funny." "So I took that moment, and I knew exactly what I was going to do." "When it came to that scene, he pulls it out," "I said, 'That must be yours, 'cause it's not mine.'" "So here's Schwarzenegger with this... [laughing] ...pretend imaginary dildo in his hand in a room, and the whole room burst into laughter." "And he didn't know what to do." "He's like...[stammering]." "It was perfect." "So needless to say, that got cut out of the script, but I got the part." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Don't break radio silence until they see me." "CHONG:" "How will I know?" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Because all [bleep] hell is going to break loose." "CHONG:" "There was like a chemistry." "CHONG:" "Be careful, Matrix." "Good luck!" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Thanks." "LESTER:" "For Commando, I was viewing the movie as this giant pop-art movie, and I knew that it was going to be fun." "Arnold, he played it perfectly." "What's amazing about Arnold was his work ethic, and how perfectionist he was about everything." "I viewed Arnold as this superhuman muscleman bodybuilder." "I didn't differentiate between, like, real life and what he actually could do." "I envisioned him as a superhero." "We got to this big scene where he holds Sully over the cliff." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "You're a funny guy, Sully." "I like you." "That's why I'm going to kill you last." "LESTER:" "The night before shooting," "I just wanted to confirm with Arnold, so I called him up and I said," "'Arnold, tomorrow's scene, you're going to pull Sully from the car, and you walk across the highway with him, and you hold him over the cliff, face down, so you're holding his legs, and then you're going to drop him." "Okay, that's the shooting, like, tomorrow night.'" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "What is important is gravity." "LESTER:" "He says, 'What's going to be holding him up?" "'" "I go, 'Well, you are." "He weighs 135 pounds; that should be nothing for you.'" "SULLY:" "I'll take you where I'm supposed to meet him!" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "But you won't." "LESTER:" "He goes, 'I can't walk across the highway carrying a man by his legs and then play a whole scene while I'm holding him over a cliff." "I can't do that!" "Are you crazy?" "!" "'" "And I go, 'Oh, my God." "But you're Arnold Schwarzenegger, that can't be.'" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I have to remind you, Sully, this is my weak arm." "LESTER:" "I'm panicked." "So, like, I'm calling the studio, all the people." "I go, 'What do we do?" "He can't, like, do this scene.'" "Fade out, fade in, the next night, a giant crane shows up, like, a huge crane, and the actor had to be like in a, you know, wires and a harness." "SULLY:" "You can't kill me, Matrix, you need me to find your daughter." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Where is she?" "LESTER:" "That scene went on for hours to film, and why I thought he could, somebody could hold somebody like that for hours." "But that's what I thought of Arnold." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Remember, Sully, when I promised to kill you last?" "SULLY:" "That's right, Matrix, you did." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I lied." "[screams]" "CHONG:" "What'd you do with Sully?" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I let him go." "LESTER:" "I thought that this guy could do anything." "He was like Mr. Universe." "L. FERRIGNO:" "Well, Arnold, I read about him in the magazines since I was a little kid." "He always had this arrogant attitude." "At the age of about three or four," "I remember my mother, father, they'd clap their hands and I wouldn't respond." "They had my hearing diagnosed, and they provided me with an old-fashioned hearing aid." "People would call me deaf mute, deaf Louie." "I was very insecure, introverted." "I used to buy a lot of comic books and trade comic books." "That was my escape." "I was obsessed with power." "One time I saw on the shelf, a cover said," "Dave Draper's on the cover, a shot of him doing a chest pose." "I said to myself, oh, my God, this is a bodybuilder." "I mean, I'd never seen a man with muscles before." "I would flex in the mirror, I was too skinny." "I discovered the whole world of bodybuilding, and knew this was the path for me." "Because I wanted to work out with weights." "That was the end of the comic books, and that was all the muscle magazines." "That was my whole world." "Every year they have the contest called the Mr. Olympia at the Brooklyn Academy of Music." "And I remember Arnold competing." "I begged my father to take me." "My father, being a police officer, we happened to get the passes to get in early." "I'll never forget," "I was downstairs, I walked in the back." "I had the glasses on." "I was a skinny kid, very quiet." "And I'm watching all these guys pumping up." "Then I see Arnold." "It's, like, my idol." "And I just stared at him, because when he took his shirt off, everything just exploded." "Everybody was dwarfed by him." "He's standing there by himself." "I've never seen a guy so enormous." "His arms were huge." "And I said, I said, 'Wow.'" "I wanted to train at Gold's Gym, and be part of the mecca of bodybuilding." "♪ ♪" "RIC DRASIN:" "Joe Gold, who opened Gold's in '65, opened it for his friends on the beach." "It wasn't a well-known gym." "It's just the fact that it's Venice Beach." "Muscle Beach." "The front door was open, and the back door was open, and the breeze would just come through." "It's very small, you could smell the ocean." "It was the beach crowd." "And when I walked in, first person I ran into, face to face, is Arnold Schwarzenegger." "This guy's huge, weighed like 260." "Big chest, big arms." "He says, 'What are you working today?" "'" "I said, 'I'm probably going to do some bench and some chest, this and that.'" "And he says, 'Let's work together.'" "He was strong, but I was always stronger on the bench press." "My best was 455, his was like 440." "So I gave him an inspiration, but we got along really well." "We would see if we could keep up with each other, of course there was a little competition." "And he'd flex his bicep, 'Ric, Ric, check this out." "Check this bicep.'" "And I look, and I'm like, 'God, it's huge.'" "He had magnificent arms, his chest was like big slabs of meat." "Big back, small waist, flat stomach, he had it all." "He says, 'A German and a Jew training together,' and I said, 'Yeah, it's a little different, isn't it?" "'" "Arnold had a very strong personality, he was very focused, he can learn anything, and he's logical, and he figures things out real quick." "Once you come to the United States, and you walk into Venice, into Gold's, and you see who's around, you see Joe Weider with the biggest magazine in the world, that can put you over the top worldwide." "And I think he saw that and said, 'If I get this magazine," "I get the covers of these magazines and I win these shows, there's no limit to what I can do.'" "BARBARA OUTLAND BAKER:" "I think Arnold's focus and discipline functions at multiple levels." "Through bodybuilding, I think he developed such an enormous focus on discipline to do exactly what he felt he needed to do to get out of Austria, to get into Germany, to get to America, to become the greatest bodybuilder in the world." "If you want fame, you're going to have to have discipline." "He does seduce people by his enormous personality, the force of his smile." "Teasing you, making a joke with you." "In my case, he just did kind of suck me in." "We would go out and everybody would stare at Arnold." "Women, maybe gay men, but mostly women, coming and touching the biceps," "'Oh, can I have a picture with you, please?" "'" "'Oh, my God, oh, my God, these muscles!" "I've never seen anything like it in my life!" "'" "'Please, ah, please, hug!" "'" "They were just aggressive." "I mean, isn't that tacky?" "How could you do that to him in front of me?" "And of course that meant that I didn't exist." "So I had a lot of competition for his attention." "It was tough, and we definitely had arguments about it." "Arnold invited me to go to New York with him for a Mr. Olympia contest." "You know, it's a world." "Muscles, shaved hair, oiling up, pumping up." "I would talk to Arnold about how he would mess with competitors' heads." "Winning came at all costs." "He wanted to wipe them out, he wanted to psych them out." "And he would call it just teasing, but you know, I was not keen on watching his, how he treated his competitors." "But he felt that that gave him a competitive edge." "And it's like, hoo, this is, like, a little much." "I don't need, think I need to be doing all these contests for the rest of my life." "But there he'd go, on stage, that was our world." "And I sort of lost myself, because I am an appendage in that world." "And so sometimes that would strike me, like, what's my identity here?" "At the end of the competition, a friend came and grabbed me from the audience, and escorted me backstage, and all of a sudden I'm back there hearing the announcer saying," "'And the future Mrs. Arnold Schwarzenegger will present the trophy to the next Mr. Olympia!" "' [applause]" "And I went and presented it to him, and there it's like," "'Arnold, see?" "The world knows, we will marry.' [applause]" "Every January 1st, Arnold would make an index card, and he would list five goals." "He was intensely interested in politics." "He'd grown up in Austria seeing that the government had 'been on their backs,' and so he absolutely believed that the government should be as small as possible, and just," "'Get off my back." "Let me have my life.'" "Year two or three, after we had broken up, he'd invited me to lunch in Venice." "And we sat at the table, and he goes," "'You just wait, in ten years," "I will be the governor of California.'" "L. FERRIGNO:" "I was approached by George Butler and Charles Gaines, they were making this film called Pumping Iron." "It was the first time that bodybuilders go in the mainstream." "I was 23 at the time, why not have a chance to be in this film?" "And you know, him being my idol, I want to defeat him." "[applause]" "At the time I think he was 27, 28?" "And he had maturity, he had years of training." "But I just knew I just had to raise the bar myself to be able to compete with him." "It was hard, because training back then, the '75 Mr. Olympia." "[grunting]" "I had this small gym, I was training all by myself." "[yells]" "MATTY FERRIGNO:" "How do you feel, Lou?" "L. FERRIGNO:" "Pretty good." "You know, my father wanted to be in the film." "Before and afterwards he never trained with me." "They thought it'd be nice to play the father-son role." "M. FERRIGNO:" "That's it." "Atta boy." "L. FERRIGNO:" "It was like a love/hate relationship." "And I was rejected when I was born, because I was not the perfect son." "I did the best I could." "And it was kind of hard because he expected me to go there, he wanted me to win." "And he kept saying, 'We're gonna beat that German, we're gonna beat that German." "You got to win, you got to win.'" "BAKER:" "All bodybuilders had a weak relationship with the father." "They are suffering." "Arnold had really not had a healthy, happy childhood." "Older father, returned from the war, drinker, rough, self-centered man as a father." "A bodybuilder wants attention" "I will develop my calves, my quads, my obliques, my biceps, my deltoids." "Then my father will notice me." "The bravado, the sarcasm, the flippancy, the sense of humor was like," "I'm so confident, you can't penetrate me." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I will, I will mix him up." "He will come so ready to South Africa, so strong." "By the time the night is over, the next morning, he will be ready to lose." "Hey, Lou, is this a master plan here this morning?" "L. FERRIGNO:" "Right." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Huh?" "L. FERRIGNO:" "That whole breakfast thing, like my father, Arnold, they were playing mind games." "You could see at the time I was kind of shy." "But both of them were going at each other." "M. FERRIGNO:" "You're the king of kings, Arnold." "[laughing]" "L. FERRIGNO:" "You know, my father can be very amusing, and he was like attacking Arnold with different strategies." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "You guys are psyching me out here, early in the morning, huh?" "M. FERRIGNO:" "They don't come nicer than you, Arnold." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I'm a nice guy." "M. FERRIGNO:" "I wouldn't turn my back on you, Arnold, within 500 yards." "L. FERRIGNO:" "But you never know what's coming out of either one's mouth." "When it comes to a contest, he'll do anything he can to win." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Calm him down." "Help him." "L. FERRIGNO:" "Day of the contest, I did have a lot of pressure." "You have other bodybuilders there, also you can smell the baby oil, you can hear the cameras rolling, you hear the tension, you hear the breathing." "And the room's pretty small." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "What do you think your chances are today?" "L. FERRIGNO:" "I will lose, Arnold, you're the best." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Thank you." "L. FERRIGNO:" "It's almost like you just want to get out of there, but you're just in there." "I had a thought to take the bar to throw it on him." "Maybe break a leg or something so he won't compete." "And he goes, 'I'm watching you,' and I said, 'I'm watching you, too.'" "You know, when you're in that competition, the best guy you want to win." "It's fierce." "I was just watching him like a fox." "He's very slick and he's very cunning and very clever." "He could be ruthless." "So, you could hear the roar of the audience, before you walk up the stairway when you step out." "All the judges love both of us." "They'd call for, like, a show double arm pose, like a chest pose." "Back pose, and then most muscular." "Then they'd say what you call the pose-down." "This is the first time you see two guys over six feet tall competing." "Two giants." "Two biggest giants in the sport." "Two warriors fighting to the death." "You see him throwing the most muscular, then I throw the most muscular." "Then he'd do a twisted back, I'd do a twisted back, because I've studied all his poses, to match him every pose I can to compete with him." "Almost like boxing match without, without fighting." "Like a showdown." "That's what made Pumping Iron stand out." "That specific part of the film." "That was like the climax, like boom, like an explosion." "ANNOUNCER:" "Third place, from the United States of America," "Lou Ferrigno!" "[applause]" "L. FERRIGNO:" "Inside of me, at the time, I felt, like, ashamed, because I knew I could've done better." "Arnold wanted them to see the look to the camera, the smile and everything, and then..." "ANNOUNCER:" "The one and only, Arnold Schwarzenegger!" "[applause]" "L. FERRIGNO:" "So, it was a tough one." "After the competition, my father, he said to me," "'When you go home,' he said, 'I want you out of my house.'" "He said, 'You're a loser.'" "And I was devastated 'cause I'm saying to myself," "I'm all the way in South Africa, and my father's saying this to me." "I don't deserve this." "He wanted more than anything for me to win so he could share that glory." "So it was tough." "It was the, probably one of the toughest days of my life." "Devastating." "I've never told anyone this before, and to me, it wasn't really everything about winning." "It was me going down there, continuing my life as a champion and be part of this great sport." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Bodybuilding has been a beautiful experience for me, and I will continue it for the rest of my life." "I only stopped competing, but I'm not stopping bodybuilding." "It's the greatest sport." "Thank you." "[applause]" "L. FERRIGNO:" "Arnold announced his retirement, and I didn't want to compete anymore, because my ambition, my goal was to defeat him." "When you think about Pumping Iron today, it's not about who won the competition." "It was about who stood out." "I didn't realize they showed pictures of me growing up as a kid, you know, you see the hearing aid, you see all the, the personal side of me." "But little did I realize that everyone embraced it." "It opened a lot of doors for me." "I ended up filming The Hulk TV series, and that changed my life." "I always wanted to be like the Hulk, and now I have the chance to play the Hulk." "Isn't that amazing?" "It all came after Pumping Iron, because of the exposure." "It put both of us on the map." "DRASIN:" "Arnold calls me and says," "'I have an audition in Burbank for a gladiator film." "Come on, maybe there'll be something for you.'" "'Eh, I don't want to be a gladiator, but I'll go with you.'" "And so we went to this house where they were auditioning, and there was two guys sitting there with the scripts, and you come in and sit down, and they gave him a script, he says, 'Take a look at it," "and then read the first two pages for me.'" "And there's those biblical lines that no one can read." "I mean, I can't read 'em." "So Arnold went through the pages stumbling and laughing and kidding and joking, and like, didn't know what that word is, and this word is." "And I'm sitting there thinking, 'Oh, brother.'" "They said, 'Okay, thank you very much.'" "We get in the car and he says, 'So what do you think?" "'" "I said, 'Arnold, forget acting." "It's never gonna happen." "It's never gonna happen.'" "ARNOLD:" "Stick around." "WEATHERS:" "Working with Arnold, for me, there was no way I was going to let Arnold look better than me." "[laughs] Okay?" "I just wasn't going to do it." "GENERAL:" "We've got a transponder fix on their position, about here." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "What do you need us for?" "WEATHERS: 'Cause some damn fool accused you of being the best." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Dillon!" "You son of a bitch." "WEATHERS:" "The man-shake is what I call it." "I didn't want to be put in a position where people are looking at Arnold Schwarzenegger instead of looking at Carl Weathers." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "What's the matter?" "The CIA got you pushing too many pencils?" "WEATHERS:" "I mean, I already know I'm at a disadvantage." "He's Mr. Universe, right?" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Huh?" "WEATHERS:" "If I'm not looking like I can compete with him, then it doesn't work." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Had enough?" "WEATHERS:" "Make it easy on yourself, Dutch." "I remembered something that a buddy I'd worked with once many, many years before that said to buy a shirt two sizes too small." "So I cut the sleeve off and rolled it up, so it's super-tight now." "So when I put my arm up there, the shirt is bulging, right?" "This is competition." "It's not just a movie." "This is competition." "So you better do whatever you have to do and can do to hang in there, 'cause Arnold is not going to let you have it easy." "When you face people who are really at the top of their game, are you going to be able to stand up and hold your own?" "Okay, okay, okay." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "You didn't know when to quit, huh?" "WEATHERS:" "Damn good to see you, Dutch." "Never make Mr. Universe, that I know, but, hey, in film, I can hold my own." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "What is this [bleep] tie business?" "WEATHERS:" "Aw, come on, forget about my tie, man." "The man-shake." "I'm reminded of that constantly by people, you know, and the question is always, who won that?" "Did you let Arnold win?" "Of course, I let him win!" "It was in the script." "Look, we're in the jungle shooting a movie." "These guys got big stogies in their mouths, sitting in their chair waiting for their shot." "Arnold was the cigar smoker." "You know, and it was just a part of the deal." "Throw on top of it these giant personalities." "We got some time off, everybody's down on the beach having a good time." "Cigars and tequila, and, you know, it just goes on and on and on." "I was talking to this woman, and Arnold, of course, in Arnold's style, you know, just wants to come in and mess with me." "Arnold gets up and walks over to me and says," "'Carly, your wife is on the phone." "The children need to talk to you.'" "Now, I wasn't married." "Didn't have my kids, you know." "That's Arnold." "You know, a guy who can get inside your head, screw with you at the moment, throw you off your game, and laugh about it." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "You can't win this, Dillon." "WEATHERS:" "Maybe I can get even." "It's always one-upmanship." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Dillon!" "WEATHERS:" "It's always competitive in nature." "And if he can't necessarily get you by flexing, he's going to try to get you mentally." "That's just the way he operates." "He's not going to let you have one up." "It's just not going to happen, you know?" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I think this is what you're looking for." "You set us up!" "It's all [bleep], all of it." "WEATHERS:" "There was nothing that was thrown at us that he couldn't have handled physically." "The guy was in damned good shape." "I know you're Mr. Universe, but come on, man!" "You're lifting the damn truck?" "No, wait a minute now!" "This is a damn truck!" "But what are you going to do, okay?" "You just let it go, right?" "It's Arnold Schwarzenegger." "[gunfire]" "IVAN REITMAN:" "I was with my family in the Aspen Snowmass area." "I was coming into the building just as he was leaving." "And he stopped for a second, and he looked at me in that way that Arnold can look at you, and he said, 'You're that Ghostbuster guy, right?" "'" "And I said, 'Yeah.'" "And he said, 'You know, I could be a Ghostbuster.'" "That was his first line to me." "I had not been thinking about making a film with him." "I didn't think of him as an actor, really." "But there was something about the confidence, and there was something kind of unusual about him." "On a kind of real personal basis, he had a wonderful sense of humor." "And that maybe there was a way to use that in the right role." "Coincidentally, I was up at the Toronto Film Festival, and Danny DeVito was there." "And there was something about the proximity of the meetings," "I started thinking about somehow pairing them." "And that really was the gestation for Twins." "We were together, I was directing and producing." "Our script, really, it was our movie, it wasn't the studio's movie." "My idea with Arnold and Dan was that none of us would get paid." "That we would work for whatever the guild minimum was for each of us, and that we would make a kind of profit-sharing deal for ourselves with the studio." "It made us partners both financially and creatively right away." "We wrote it down on a cocktail napkin, which the three of us signed." "What we didn't know is, well, can he really act?" "Can he actually speak the English language in a naturalistic way?" "REITMAN:" "It's like he practiced acting too much." "He would look in a mirror, and he would do these things with his, you know, with his eyebrows and his forehead and with his chin." "And I said, 'It's different than posing." "You're, you have to be more fluid and honest." "Just forget all that stuff.'" "It was about unlearning." "And the first scene that we filmed on Twins," "Arnold comes to bail out DeVito in jail." "And DeVito doesn't even know why Arnold is there." "'I'm your long lost brother,' and DeVito's very, very long, sort of, kind of quiet take to that kind of ridiculous news is very, very funny." "And it's sort of the key to the comedy of the whole movie." "MAN:" "Who are you?" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I'm Vincent's brother." "DANNY DEVITO:" "We're twins." "REITMAN:" "As soon as I was able to make him relax and, and work with people and just have conversation..." "DEVITO:" "Come on!" "REITMAN: ...suddenly this magical guy that you, you got to know as a real person suddenly would fly out." "And he, in fact, became very effective as a comedic actor." "Even though Arnold had bigger movies, he made actually more money off of Twins." "When your main actor is really helping the director and the crew, and is the first one on the set, and is really gung-ho, everybody falls in line, there's no, there's no bad behavior." "And you know, he was very dedicated." "This amazing confidence that he used in every aspect of his life." "CHONG:" "Arnold Schwarzenegger is completely confident in Arnold Schwarzenegger." "He's like the poster person for 'I'm going to rule the world.'" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I was not that confident was I was a 15-year-old kid." "I was rather shy, you know." "But I think each victory, each thing that I accomplished made me realize that, yes," "I am good, and I'm getting better, and I'm getting smarter, and all those things." "CHONG:" "He's supremely ambitious." "I mean, everything that he does and has achieved, he pre-thought out." "♪ ♪" "I'm sure out of the sea of women he had a choice of," "I can imagine that he said, 'I want to marry not only the most beautiful woman, but the most powerful woman.'" "So you've got a woman who's gorgeous and happens to be, you know, a very leading, bright, strong newsperson, and she's right in the inner circle of Washington," "Maria Shriver." "He married into the Kennedy family, and you can't be in the inner circle of the Kennedys and not be political." "LESTER:" "And he told me back then, even, that they would have a lot of discussions at Hyannis Port with the Kennedys." "He was a conservative Republican, you know, not on social issues, but he was basically a conservative Republican." "And so he joined into this political family." "I think he knew that she would be someone that would help him, and he would be entering into this like rarified, you know, class of people, and this ruling elite, and he was, he was Schwarzenegger." "REITMAN:" "You know, the idea of politics was always one of the more important conversations we had." "Not so much would Arnold go into politics;" "why he shouldn't go into politics." "And Maria always counseled against it." "CHONG:" "You've got all the money in the world, you are the biggest movie star." "What's left to conquer?" "Politics." "And if you really understand power, it's not in Hollywood." "TOM McCLINTOCK:" "People were focused on politics in those days, because they were feeling the pain of some very bad policies." "The economy was in the tank, our credit rating was shot, people realized we drifted far off course." "That was the state of California in 2003." "MAN:" "Down with Gray Davis." "NEWSCASTER:" "This is a governor under siege." "GRAY DAVIS:" "If the people want me to present my credentials again, I do not fear them." "PROTESTORS:" "Down with Gray Davis!" "NEWSCASTER:" "With more than a million signatures collected by his opponents, he is now all but certain to become the first governor in California history to face a recall election." "McCLINTOCK:" "Well, a recall election is basically a do-over." "It was the first time in the history of California that a governor had actually been successfully recalled." "DAVIS:" "While I've made mistakes, while we have a tough economy all across the country, at the end of the day I believe they will acknowledge we have been making progress." "McCLINTOCK:" "Nobody knew exactly what Arnold Schwarzenegger was going to do." "I would have been surprised either way." "NEWSCASTER:" "The wildcard in California politics now is actor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has strongly hinted he will run as a Republican in a recall election." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "No announcements to make, if that's your question." "I have no announcements to make." "NEWSCASTER:" "Arnold Schwarzenegger surprised just about everyone, and decided he would make the race for California governor." "WOMAN:" "Arnold!" "NEWSCASTER:" "His supporters are already calling him the political terminator." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Good morning." "You know who I am, right?" "CLERK:" "Yes." "[laughs]" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Yes." "Let's see if you can pronounce my name." "CLERK:" "Schwarzenegger." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Very good!" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "That an Austrian farm boy can come over to America and get into the movie business." "They said, 'We cannot pronounce your name, you cannot speak English well, and your body's overdeveloped.'" "And you know what happened?" "I became the highest paid entertainer in the world." "It's part of my agenda to reform Sacramento, to reform the whole system." "McCLINTOCK:" "Whenever you have a candidate who is known only by his first name, you know you're facing a formidable challenger." "And of course had an enormous amount of money to bring to the race, and had the entire Republican party establishment behind him as well." "REPORTER:" "This afternoon, the rich Republican congressman who bankrolled the recall in the first place, Darrell Issa, tearfully withdrew from the race, saying Schwarzenegger's entry shows there are enough qualified candidates in the recall." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I have a very clear vision," "I feel very passionate about California, and I feel so good about going in there and cleaning house once and for all." "McCLINTOCK:" "He had a broom that he brought to his appearances." "He was going to sweep Sacramento clean." "With any untested candidate there's always the chance that they might self-destruct." "That chance was always there with Arnold Schwarzenegger." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I cannot be paid off, and not bought." "I have never lost money on any of the business deals," "I mean, I am a very astute businessman." "McCLINTOCK:" "He had a great deal of experience in bodybuilding, a great deal of experience in movie-making, no experience in governance, and this was a critical moment for the governance of California." "He brought to the debate a very good sense of humor, which he used very effectively." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I just realized that I have a perfect part for you in Terminator 4." "[laughter]" "McCLINTOCK:" "Everybody was just expecting me to attack him, and I wasn't there to attack him." "I was focused on the issues." "I steer a straight course, and I stay that course no matter what the pressure." "The Republican Party establishment was constantly after me to drop out of the race." "They'd gotten all of the other major Republicans to drop out." "There's so few Republicans in California, you're gonna split the vote and guarantee another Democrat gets elected." "The pressure was quite intense." "He had the party establishment, I had the party base." "So it was pretty much a standoff." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I set always big goals for myself." "And most of them I accomplish, but this one is a little bit bigger than I am." "And that's why I need your help." "I want you to vote for me on October 7." "McCLINTOCK:" "And that's what happened." "[applause]" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I want to reach out to everybody." "The young and old, rich and poor, people of all religions, all colors, and all nationalities." "I want to be the governor for the people," "I want to represent everybody." "[applause]" "McCLINTOCK:" "I think the key to Arnold Schwarzenegger is he loves to be loved." "And that's a very helpful thing when you're out there in the public eye performing." "It's a very dangerous thing if you're a leader in a crisis." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "My seven years as governor were the most fulfilling years that I've ever had in my life." "I did not accomplish everything that was on my to-do list, but I don't think any governor ever does." "[laughter]" "McCLINTOCK:" "It's very rare that somebody gets to the top of three different highly competitive fields-- bodybuilding, movie-making and politics." "There's no question he got to the top of all three." "CHONG:" "If he could be president, he would've been president." "But the fact is he couldn't, by law." "WEATHERS:" "I can't imagine another guy coming along that could do all of what Arnold's managed to do in such a short life." "It's just, it's just inconceivable in many ways." "DRASIN:" "The youth and the older guys still look up to Arnold as the number one body in the world." "No one compares to what he had, which got him into acting, which also got him into politics, and the brains came with it." "BAKER:" "Life is a delicious game for Arnold, and he lives it well." "And now he's back in the film industry, and he's making video games, and he's encouraging people to work out again with a new program." "It just never ends for him." "L. FERRIGNO:" "Even now, when I go to Gold's Gym in the morning." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Seven, eight, nine, ten, two more, eleven." "L. FERRIGNO:" "Dahh!" "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Yes!" "L. FERRIGNO:" "I've had conversations with him that both of us have similar fathers." "Driven, driven." "We're not perfect enough." "When you get older, you know, everything changes." "You have maturity." "We show more moral support for our children." "We don't want to be the father that we've had." "♪ ♪" "KENT:" "And it was all about the strong and imposing and heroic figure." "Nothing phases him." "He was 100% dedicated to whatever task he picked up, and I'm quite sure he's still like that way to this day." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "I'll be back." "I'll be back." "I'll be back." "I'll be back." "[giggles]" "CHONG:" "There's nothing stopping him." "Yeah, you can't understand him, but who cares about understanding people?" "It's less about words, it's more about badass power." "SCHWARZENEGGER:" "Hasta la vista." "KENT:" "There was a funny moment when we were doing Commando." "And we were sitting at a roadside café eating ice cream." "This lady came up to me, and she said," "'Arnold, can I please have your autograph?" "'" "And then Arnold chimes in, in his voice, and says," "'Yeah, Arnold, be nice and give the lady an autograph.'" "And so I just grabbed a napkin and a pen and scrawled Arnold's name, I forged his signature, and handed it to her, and she went off with it." "And we all just looked at each other and busted up laughing."