"CAITLYN:" "Okay." "It's, like, 4:32 in the morning." "And I can't sleep." "God, I look in the monitor, I look like crap." "I, anyway..." "I-I feel bad that these-- especially young people-- are going through such a difficult time in their life." "We don't want people dying over this." "We don't want people murdered over this stuff." "God, what a responsibility I have... towards this community." "Am I going to do everything right?" "Am I gonna say the right things?" "Do I project the right image?" "My mind's just spinning with thoughts." "I just hope I get it right." "I hope I get it right." "Yeah." "is out!" "(people cheering, applauding)" "Look at that cover, baby!" "REPORTER:" "Webeginwiththe world's introduction to Caitlyn Jenner." "COURTNEY:" "Yeah!" "(whoops) CAITLYN:" "Shh,shh!" "REPORTER:" "FormerOlympian Bruce Jenner confirmed her transition to a woman on the Vanity Fair." "Jenner first talked about her transition in an interview with" "Diane Sawyer, saying we can soon." "CAITLYN:" "I don'tthinkIhave  ever been more excited about life than I am right now." "Living my true identity." "Um, and hopefully, going to make a difference in the world." "That's my mission." "REPORTER:" "KhloeKardashian tweeted this morning: "We were given this life because you were strong enough to live it." "I couldn't be prouder." "Caitlyn, you are beautiful."" "ROB:" "Yourcoverlooks amazing." "CAITLYN:" "Isn'tthatrockin'?" "ROB:" "Sogood,yeah,youlook amazing and everything." "CAITLYN:" "It'sso goodtohear  from you." "Kim?" "KIM:" "Youdidn'ttellmeyou were on Twitter." "CAITLYN:" "I 'vebeenon Twitter for an hour." "KIM:" "Well,theheadof Twitter just said, "We think" "Caitlyn could break President Obama's gained follower record one million within the first five hours."" "CAITLYN:" "Well,let'sgo." "Okay!" "Let's go for the record!" "I love records!" "At this point, what's the total amount?" "KIM:720,000." "CAITLYN:" "No!" "RONDA:" "Intwohours." "CAITLYN:" "Intwohours." "We're going for the record." "KIM:" "Justwantedyou toknow  I'm on the bandwagon." "CAITLYN:" "Yay!" "Thank you for all the support." "KIM:" "Ofcourse,ofcourse." "CAITLYN:" "Allright." "KIM:" "Alleyesonyounow." "You cannot disappoint." "CAITLYN:" "I know." "No, it's got to be good." "The tremendous amount of support that I've gotten has been overwhelming." "But you also have to realize that, uh, it's not this way for everybody." "There are so many people that have struggled with family;" "who struggle with friends;" "who struggle with ridicule;" "who are not having financial resources." "The suicide rate nine times higher in the trans community than in the general public." "Murder rate's higher." "This is a really important issue." "People are dying over this issue." "I feel a tremendous responsibility here." "Because I have a voice and there's so many trans people out there who do not have a voice." "I can't speak for them, because everybody has their own experience, but I am an expert on my story." "WOMAN:" "Cheersto Caitlyn." "CAITLYN:" "Outtwoweeks,yeah !" "There's so much to learn, so many people to meet." "WOMAN:" "Yourtransformation has helped me to understand my father." "CAITLYN:" "I 'velivedagreat life." "And I realize, in this transition, that I have that privileged status." "(crowd clamoring)" "But I hope that I'm in a position to turn around..." "Yay!" "...and help this community." "Hi, everybody." "I want to spotlight those organizations that are out there doing some really good things." "BOY:" "Beingaroundfriendsis really nice when you haven't been around friends for most of your life." "CAITLYN:" "Well,yougot  friends here." "But also I have to figure out my own journey." "Now I know why girls need a sports bra." "There's a lot of firsts out there for me." "My entire family have not met Caitlyn." "KIM:" "Hi." "CAITLYN:" "Hi,babe." "I want to be able to make friends in the trans community." "WOMAN:" "Everybodyon Jenner." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,yeah." "And I have to figure out how I'm going to live the rest of my life." "KYLIE:" "I loveyou." "CAITLYN( crying):" "I wantthem to be proud of their daddy." "ANNOUNCER:" "BruceJennerhas a commanding lead in the home stretch." "Bruce Jenner has the world record in the decathlon." "CAITLYN:" "Mymother'scoming today." "Um..." "I don't know what it is." "I was able to tell everybody in my family first, before I ever got to my mom." "It's so important, during this transition, that you surround yourself with positive people." "How you doing in there, Ronda?" "RONDA:" "Good,Igot three outfits for you." "CAITLYN:" "Allright." "RONDA:" "Thatyoucan pick from." "CAITLYN:" "Yearsago, I confided in Ronda." "And she really has been a friend that has supported me." "Combined with Courtney, I've really got a great support group." "It-it, from that standpoint, it's..." "I'm-I'm blessed." "RONDA:" "Theyjustlanded." "So do you want me to start looking in the closet for things that you can wear?" "CAITLYN:" "Uh,Idon 'tknow." "I don't think I can be too..." "you know, in "le femme" mode." "It's got to be kind of, yeah, right." "RONDA:" "Nodressydress." "CAITLYN:" "No,I-Ialreadytold  them: you're coming down to meet Caitlyn." "COURTNEY:" "I 'veneverseenyou  actually nervous." "CAITLYN:" "Well,it 'smy  mother..." "God." "PAM:" "Momhasn'thad her  children together since her birthday party, four years ago." "ESTHER:" "That'sright." "PAM:" "Sothisis, thisisvery special." "ESTHER:" "AndIthink..." "PAM:" "Inmanyways." "(Esther laughs) CAITLYN:" "Sleevesup or down?" "Let's see." "RONDA:" "Slightlyup ." "CAITLYN:" "Whatabout a necklace?" "COURTNEY:" "Doyou..." "Imean , should we button it one more up just 'cause it's Mom?" "RONDA:" "Yeah,it 'sMom." "LISA:" "Wheneverythingfirst broke, it was difficult because" "I had known my brother as, you know, Bruce, this amazing athlete, for, you know, all of my life... and, I guess the whole family has to change along with... with her." "ESTHER:" "Whenyou'reinthe grocery store, to see these tabloid magazines and all the things that they come out with, with... you know..." "PRODUCER:" "So,whatwas your reaction when you found out?" "ESTHER:" "I thinkIwas silent." "PAM:" "Heconfidedinmeover 30 years ago." "ESTHER:" "Youthoughtmaybehe was... uh, getting over it?" "PAM:" "Becausethesubject never came up again." "ESTHER:" "Yeah." "PAM:" "I thoughtit was something that maybe counseling would help him with." "Then, about two years ago, he started talking to me about wanting to live an authentic life." "CAITLYN:" "Now,here's the question." "RONDA:" "What?" "CAITLYN:" "I 'msigningthe birthday card for Mother..." "RONDA:" "I boughtyoutwo !" "CAITLYN:" "Howdo Isignit?" "COURTNEY:" "Incaseyou mess up." "RONDA:" "Yougottwo .(laughs)" "COURTNEY:" "You'reCaitlyn." "This is the life you're living." "RONDA:" "Yeah." "CAITLYN( sing-songy):" "Scary." "PAM:" "He-hefeltlikehe needed to follow through on his desires and to go, actually, public, um, and discuss the issue." "I initially discouraged him." "I..." "I didn't understand how that could work." "(Esther sighs)" "CAITLYN:" "It'skindoftough to tell your mother all these secrets." "You always have doubts in your mind of how that first impression is going to work out." "You want it to be so good." "She's never met Caitlyn." "And I'm just hoping for the best." "Oh, God, here we go." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,God,herewego ." "PRODUCER:" "Socomeonin." "ESTHER:" "Okay." "PRODUCER:" "Welcome." "ESTHER:" "Thereyouare ." "CAITLYN:" "Now,everybody." "It's okay, it's..." "Hello, Mom." "ESTHER:" "I knewit wouldbe." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Iknow." "It's okay, it's okay." "Sister Lisa, hold on." "LISA:" "Hello." "CAITLYN:" "I know,I'mtaller than you." "LISA:" "Yes,youare ,and  you've always been." "CAITLYN:" "It'ssisterPam ." "Hey..." "Hey..." "We're all here." "PAM:" "You'regorgeous." "Gorgeous!" "CAITLYN:" "Well,thankyou ." "Thank you." "PAM:" "I wasquite apprehensive." "I knew she would be d..." "different looking." "Uh, and I was hoping that she would have the same personality, uh, as Bruce." "And she does." "And she's so relaxed and so happy." "That makes me very happy." "I thought you were gonna look more like me." "(everyone laughs)" "CAITLYN:" "Littlesister, after, what has it been, 35 years we've talked about this?" "PAM:" "Yes,aboutthatlong ." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "Yeah,Iknow ." "PAM:" "Aboutthatlong." "CAITLYN:" "Backthatlong." "I know." "ESTHER:" "Andyounevertalked to me." "CAITLYN:" "I know." "Iknow." "Well, we could sit down and talk about that." "ESTHER:" "I neverknew." "I never guessed you were having a problem." "CAITLYN:" "I know." "ESTHER:" "Youhiditvery well ." "CAITLYN:" "I did." "I was a professional at hiding it." "PAM:" "I guessso ." "ESTHER:" "Itis overwhelming." "I guess I've been preparing myself." "Uh..." "I knew he was going to be..." "dressed... as a woman." "Uh..." "I think he's a very good-looking woman." "Uh... he's still Bruce." "(crying):" "Oh, I don't want to do that." "PRODUCER:" "No,no ,no ,it 's okay, it's okay." "ESTHER:" "I-Ilovehim somuch ." "I always have, I always will." "PRODUCER:" "And...yes." "ESTHER:" "Andyes." "It's-it's... a lot to get used to." "PRODUCER:" "Mm-hmm." "Of course." "It's a surprise." "ESTHER:" "ButIwill." "PRODUCER:" "Yes." "ESTHER:" "I will." "PAM:" "I wasaskingBrucehow did he come up with the name" "Caitlyn." "CAITLYN:" "I kindof narrowed it down to a few of them, Caitlyn being one of them." "And I actually was with Ronda." "When I was talking to her about this whole thing about two years ago, she goes, "Well, you know," "I always liked the name Caitlyn."" "And I went-- at some point, you just have to kind of bite the bullet... and say, "Okay, boom." "It's done."" "But talking to other trans people, they said a good way to get your female name... is to..." "ask your mother." "I'm sure when you didn't know there was a boy or a girl..." "ESTHER:" "Mm-hmm." "CAITLYN:...youhadnamesfor a boy name, and you had a girl name." "I don't know if you remember." "PAM:" "Doyouremember?" "ESTHER:" "I don'tremember." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "ESTHER:" "AndI'msureIdid  have two different names picked." "(cell phone rings)" "PAM:" "Didyouhaveaboy 's name picked out for me?" "CAITLYN:" "Hi,baby." "KYLIE:" "Hey,Daddy." "CAITLYN:" "AmIonFaceTime with you?" "Kylie has not met Caitlyn yet." "And she FaceTimes me." "And there I am." "I didn't know it was coming on." "Um, don't want to scare you." "You just woke up?" "Where are you?" "KYLIE:" "Thedentist." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,youjustwoke up at the dentist." "Are you feeling okay?" "KYLIE:" "I 'ma littleloopy." "CAITLYN:" "A littleloopy?" "I've never... had my first experience with somebody on FaceTime." "To be honest with you, I didn't know what to do." "Like, do I turn it away?" "Or, you know..." "I-I... uh..." "I don't know..." "I was kind of shocked, when I thought... "Oh well." ♪ Ta-da. ♪" "(everyone laughs) KYLIE:" "Youlookpretty." "CAITLYN:" "I don'twantto scare you." "Okay." "KYLIE:" "You'renotscaringme." "You look pretty." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,good." "I love you." "KYLIE:" "Bye,Daddy." "CAITLYN:" "Mwah!" "Yeah." "There's an expert in town named Susan Landon." "She's coming up... uh... to answer any questions that you might have." "Uh, she's great." "ESTHER:" "I needto learnmore." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,okay,we'll have a great conversation." "ESTHER:" "Good." "CAITLYN:" "Susan,baby,how you  doing?" "Hello." "SUSAN:" "Hi,darling,how are  you?" "CAITLYN:" "I amgreat." "SUSAN:" "Good." "CAITLYN:" "Sogoodtoseeyou." "SUSAN:" "Youtoo." "CAITLYN:" "Thanksforcoming out." "SUSAN:" "Thankyoufor asking me." "CAITLYN:" "I know." "Susanworks with families." "Uh, Mom has said, on numerous occasions, "I need to know more." SUSAN:" "Well,youcan ask me whatever you want." "CAITLYN:" "Let'stake..." "Let's go in here and sit down, so we can relax and..." "SUSANandESTHER:" "Okay." "SUSAN:" "There'snothingmore important than acceptance, support." "This takes time in some families." "But the other thing to remember is that it's a process over time." "ESTHER:" "I hateto brag,but I have some beautiful children." "Where's Pam?" "There she is." "CAITLYN:" "Somegetting prettier." "ESTHER:" "Yes,I-Iknow." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Iknow." "I know." "Yeah, some getting... a little prettier." "All right, just stay on point." "Since we have Susan here, the big question is: have you ever seen anybody..." "like, get over it and get cured of this?" "SUSAN:" "Uh,me personally,no," "I have not." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Iknow." "It's just kind of the way you're born." "SUSAN:" "Yeah." "ESTHER:" "Youknowhow little boys outgrow their clothes?" "SUSAN:" "Yes." "ESTHER:" "I tookyoutoa  store, and you did not want those clothes on you." "(Caitlyn laughs)" "You were trying to pull them off of you." "And I was trying to get them on you." "And you didn't want them." "And I thought, "He just doesn't want new clothes." Would that have been in his person, then, that he would rather have had a dress?" "SUSAN:" "Oh,absolutely." "Let's say for a minute that that's what he would have preferred to wear-- sorry." "She." "CAITLYN:" "It'squite all right." "SUSAN:" "I meant"he"then." "CAITLYN:" "Yougotit." "would have preferred to wear." "'Cause pronouns are really important, everybody." "So if that, at that point, is what she had wanted to have, she probably wasn't able to pick it, okay?" "And then, when children get older, they notice the reactions of other people." "ESTHER:" "Butthey,the ..." "SUSAN:" "Theystarttakingin information-- like, "This probably isn't gonna be okay, so I better fit in." ESTHER:" "Yeah." "SUSAN:" "Andif anybodytried to fit in more than you, I don't know who it was." "CAITLYN:" "I didagoodjob,  yeah." "(laughter)" "ESTHER:" "Butthechildhasno their reaction is that way." "For instance, the clothes." "SUSAN:" "Butby thetime they're about five, they start figuring it out." "ESTHER:" "Now,I'msureyou've read the passage in the Bible about if you dress... if you're a man and you dress like a woman, you know..." "SUSAN:" "Yeah." "ESTHER:" "Doyouhaveany, uh, interpretation of that?" "SUSAN:" "Um..." "I'mnot a biblical scholar, so I don't know exactly what that verse represented to people at the time, obviously, but for me, a woman, and really always has been." "PAM:" "Begentle,please." "CAITLYN:" "What?" "PAM:" "I said,be gentle." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,my God,I'm  gonna be gentle." "You know I've always been gentle with you." "This one's a little... higher strike." "You don't care." "(Pam laughs) Let's do it." "PAM:" "Okay." "CAITLYN:" "Whatdo youdowith  the balls?" "Guys, we got pockets." "(Pam laughs) Ready?" "Whoa." "Bad start." "PAM:" "Onepoint." "CAITLYN:" "Takeit easyonme, Sis." "Here it comes." "PAM:" "Ooh!" "(Pam laughs) CAITLYN:" "God,comeon." "It's great... to be able to base a relationship with your family on honesty." "I mean, I am... so happy, uh, the way this whole process has begun." "PAM:" "I knowwe talkedabout you and your straight guy friends-- you haven't really met yet." "CAITLYN:" "Honestly,I'vecome out to all the girls, you're right." "PAM:" "Andeverybody's..." "CAITLYN:" "I thinkit 'sjust harder for..." "I don't know." "My guy friends-- what do you think?" "PAM:" "I thinkthey'regonnabe much more supportive than you think." "They're gonna meet Caitlyn and they're gonna say, "Same personality."" "CAITLYN:" "ButIdon 'tknowif they get it, I don't know if guys get that." "PAM:" "Holdon ,I'mgetting warm." "CAITLYN:" "I don'tknow,girls just seem to be easier, you know?" "PAM:" "Yes,we are." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "Oh, we are-- don't start bragging on me." "Let's go, get over there, I'll show you." "PAM:" "SeehowIhit' emright  to you, to be nice?" "Oops." "CAITLYN:" "Hup,Igot it!" "PAM:" "Oh,it 'slegal,it's legal." "Uh-oh." "I... aah!" "(Pam laughs) I love it." "CAITLYN:" "NowIknowwhygirls  need a sports bra." "(Pam laughs) When you start running, it gets a little tougher, doesn't it?" "PAM:" "Yeah." "Get in." "CAITLYN:" "Thehairgot inmy eyes again." "(Pam laughing)" "Bruce was a lot better tennis player than Caitlyn is." "PAM:" "Yeah." "CAITLYN:" "Okay?" "PAM:" "Itwasfun ." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,it wasfun ." "It was fun." "(indistinct chatter) (footsteps approaching)" "KYLIE:" "Hello?" "!" "PAM:" "Oh,my goodness." "I haven't seen you in so long." "KYLIE:" "Hey,AuntLisa." "LISA:" "Howareyou ?" "KYLIE:" "Good." "LISA:" "Youlooksopretty." "KYLIE:" "Oh,thankyou ." "MADDIE:" "Aah!" "I've missed you." "KYLIE:" "I missedyou." "Where's my dad?" "MADDIE:" "He'sin there." "KYLIE:" "I dowanttomeet her." "It'll be a little uncomfortable in the beginning." "But I think we're both ready." "Hey, pretty." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Iknow,I know..." "Hey, baby!" "I didn't know you were here." "KYLIE:" "Youlooksopretty." "CAITLYN:" "Wheredidyou just sneak in?" "KYLIE:" "Hey,Grandma." "CAITLYN:" "LittleKyliemade it." "ESTHER:" "Oh,my ...(kisses)" "CAITLYN:" "Mom'sin thechair." "KYLIE:" "Howareyou ?" "Are you getting pretty?" "ESTHER:" "I 'mhavingfun." "KYLIE:" "Oh,yay." "ESTHER:" "I havealittle present for you." "KYLIE:" "I 'mexcited." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,yeah,yeah." "Okay, you want to do it?" "ESTHER:" "Okay." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,comeon." "(Esther chuckles) CAITLYN:" "Okay..." "ESTHER:" "I thought..." "I thought you should have this." "It's me when I was 17." "KYLIE:" "Oh,my God." "CAITLYN:" "Whenshewas your age." "KYLIE:" "Wait,we kindoflook  alike." "ESTHER:" "Wedo kindoflook  alike, don't we?" "CAITLYN:" "I know,youdo." "KYLIE:" "I definitelytakethe" "Jenner side, 'cause..." "CAITLYN:" "Andhere'sthe  kicker: she was 17 years old in this picture..." "ESTHER:" "Marriedto ..." "CAITLYN:...andshewas  married." "ESTHER:" "And..." "KYLIE:" "Kindof like...kind of like me." "CAITLYN:" "Uh,uh ,but,you ..." "I better not hear that from you." "Yes, yes, yes." "My big concern, obviously, from the beginning-- besides all the rest of the kids-- is Kendall and Kylie." "Isn't that cool?" "KYLIE:" "I loveit ." "So pretty." "CAITLYN:" "Onceit wasout  there, they saw the support that" "I was getting, especially in the celebrity world." "From the Lady Gagas of the world to Miley Cyrus to Elton John." "To see their support, I think it really made my kids feel-- especially Kylie-- that it's gonna be okay." "SPENCER:" "How'sKenny?" "KYLIE:" "She'sgood,Idon't know, she's so busy." "CAITLYN:" "She'sin Cannes right now." "KYLIE:" "Letme seeyourhair ." "CAITLYN:" "Mm-hmm." "KYLIE:" "Youshouldget  extensions." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,we wouldnever use extensions, would we?" "KYLIE:" "No." "CAITLYN:" "No,notina million years, would we?" "KYLIE:" "Wherearethe ones that I gave you?" "CAITLYN:" "Uh,in theother room." "KYLIE:" "I wantto putthemin." "CAITLYN:" "Okay." "I got no problem with Kylie." "After the first five minutes, it's like, "All right..." "it's Caitlyn-- big deal."" "KYLIE:" "I was,like,looking at Google pictures of you when I was trying to pick the hair color, and then you dyed it on me." "(all laugh)" "ESTHER:" "Doesit matchyour eyes?" "COURTNEY:" "Don'tlook,don 't look!" "CAITLYN:" "Sorry." "(all laugh)" "I almost peeked, I'm sorry." "COURTNEY:" "Don'truinit." "CAITLYN:" "Isn'tthismorefun than sitting around talking about sports?" "KYLIE:" "Mm-hmm." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,that'swhatI thought." "SPENCER:" "Orwatchinggolf." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,or watching golf." "Yeah, thank you, thank you." "KYLIE:" "Orplayinggolf?" "CAITLYN:" "Orplayinggolf." "Well, I don't know if I can go quite that far." "COURTNEY:" "Lookat yourself, look." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,wait,wait..." "Kylie." "SPENCER:" "I know,right?" "Look how long it is." "KYLIE:" "Leanback." "ESTHER:" "Wow." "KYLIE:" "Look." "CAITLYN:" "Couldbe Caitlyn's first post." "And they would never know who it is." "SPENCER:" "They'dbe ,like," ""Oh!" KYLIE:" "Whatdo youwantto say?" "CAITLYN:" "A goodfriend modeling my new extensions, or something like that." "KYLIE:" "I don'twanttosay "a good friend."" "CAITLYN:" "Okay,uh ..." "RONDA:" "Mydad?" "CAITLYN:" "Mydad?" "(everyone laughs)" "CAITLYN:" "Havingthat opportunity to just be honest with your family-- it's like somebody taking a thousand pounds off my shoulders." "Besides, most people, once they meet Caitlyn, they go, "Oh, my God, she's more fun than Bruce ever was." KYLIE:" "I loveyou." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,Iloveyou,  too." "And everything's gonna be good." "KYLIE:" "I 'llseeyoutomorrow." "CAITLYN:" "I appreciateyou coming out and being understanding." "KYLIE:" "Ofcourse,Ilove you." "CAITLYN:" "Good." "Bye, buddy." "KYLIE:" "Bye!" "CAITLYN:" "AllthesepantsI'll  never use again." "PAM:" "Yeah,where'dyou put  the other hangers?" "Are they underneath?" "CAITLYN:" "I don'tknow." "Here's the question" " I hate to say it, but... what the hell was Bruce thinking?" "PAM:( laughs)Youprob..." "it was probably a Christmas present." "CAITLYN:" "Thatis oneugly shirt." "Considering I've had all these clothes down here for six months, I guess I really don't need anything that's here, right?" "PAM:" "Yeah." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "Anyway, how's Mom doing?" "PAM:" "Shehasn'tsaidaword to me, privately." "CAITLYN:" "Really?" "PAM:" "Yeah,no ,Ithink she's... she's..." "CAITLYN:" "I just,youknow, sit here and..." "PAM:" "Wonder." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Iwonder." "Everybody's very positive and everybody feels really good about all this stuff, but, you know, I'm kind of waiting." "PAM:" "Andyou'rewaitingfor?" "CAITLYN:" "Well,I'mwaiting for, you know, Mom to go-- in a quiet time-- "Oh, my God, what's happening?"" "Even Kylie coming over today-- you never know, you know, when they get away from here and they go home, they go, "Oh, my God, that was so strange." I mean, she has not met Caitlyn." "She was kind of shocked." "PAM:" "Kyliehadn't?" "CAITLYN:" "No,no ." "She would never come over." "PAM:" "I didn'tknowthat." "CAITLYN:" "I wouldinviteher  over and this and that, she would never come." "Khloe hasn't been here." "Kourtney hasn't been here, hasn't met Caitlyn." "Um..." "Rob." "PAM:" "No?" "CAITLYN:" "Youknow?" "Maybe... them not being around is, you know, kind of their way of saying, "I don't know if I really agree with this" or what or..." "You know, they keep saying to me, openly, that, "Everybody's great, it's great, we want you to live your life."" "And then they never show up." "So you know something else is going on in their head." "You know, for most people, dealing with something like this, there's a lot of families that just are..." "PAM:" "Tornapart,I'm sure." "CAITLYN:" "Tornapartbyit, you know?" "Um, I don't want to tear my family apart." "Now that Pam and Lisa have gone, we can actually talk." "ESTHER:" "I know." "CAITLYN:" "I know,that'skind of nice." "ESTHER:" "I reallydidn'twant to go to the beach." "CAITLYN:" "Thisbeachdown here-- it's a-a lo... tough walk to get down to the beach, 'cause you got to walk down that..." "Yeah." "ESTHER:" "Asyouare rightnow,  as I look at you..." "CAITLYN:" "Right." "ESTHER:" "Youlooksomuch like  someone in my family, and I was trying to figure it out." "CAITLYN:" "Um,IthinkIlook like myself, Mom." "ESTHER:" "Huh." "CAITLYN:" "Becausethemost important thing in life is that you're true to yourself, and I'm doing better now than I've ever done before in my life, you know?" "ESTHER:" "It'sgoingtobeso  difficult for me..." "to c... to think of you as "she"" "and to say "Caitlyn" when I want to speak with you or call your attention or..." "you know..." ""Hey, Caitlyn" instead of "Hey, Bruce."" "I don't think..." "It's not easy." "It's not easy." "CAITLYN:" "No,it 'snoteasy." "What aspect is it not easy?" "Losing a son?" "ESTHER:" "I don'tthink...it's not easy." "It's not easy." "CAITLYN:" "No,it 'snoteasy." "What aspect is it not easy?" "Losing a son?" "ESTHER:" "Theproblembefore with you and I, I..." "I'm guessing this-- you felt uncomfortable with me." "We would see each other, and it was like you wanted to get away." "CAITLYN:" "Atthatpointinmy  life, I was very much an isolationist." "I would isolate myself from the world on many, many, many, many occasions." "'Cause I never felt like I fit in anywhere." "I didn't fit in with the male side, I didn't fit in with the female side." "You're kind of stuck in the middle." "I feel like Caitlyn fits in a lot better into society, uh, than Bruce ever did, 'cause" "Bruce, uh, had to lie about all that sort of stuff, where" "Caitlyn's kind of got a place." "ESTHER:" "ButBrucewillalways be in there." "Your values are always gonna be the same." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,same." "I'm still the same person." "ESTHER:" "That'snotchanging." "That's your soul." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,that'syour soul-- that's exactly right." "ESTHER:" "You-youhavethe same soul you were born with." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "ESTHER:" "I loveBruce." "It'll never change." "That'll never change." "It's going to take some getting used to." "But I want..." "I want to do what he wants." "CAITLYN:" "Andtheresponsehas been very good, so that even makes it better, you know?" "If the response was, "Oh, my God, what a weirdo," uh, it would be a lot more difficult." "But people have really been behind my honesty, and I really appreciate that." "I'm very optimistic about the future, and I'm dragging you along with me." "ESTHER:( chuckles)Okay." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,good,good." "ESTHER:" "Okay." "CAITLYN:" "Here'smy attitude, when you go through what I'm going through, it affects a lot of people." "My entire family kind of has to go through this... called "transition." And all those things will be worked out in time." "All right." "Maybe I should get this wild color hair out." "Right now, what I want to do is just be able to create understanding so the next person doesn't have to be like me." "We have to be able to reach out, one soul at a time, and figure this problem out." "REPORTER:" "KylerPrescott,a local transgender teen, has taken his own life..." "CAITLYN:" "Anothersuicide." "REPORTER:...makingthisthe  third suicide of a transgender youth this year." "His mother spoke out in an emotional interview." "KATHARINE:" "I thinktheworld was kind of too hard a place for such a gentle soul." "He didn't understand cruelty." "He didn't understand people that didn't understand him." "(sighs) It's tough." "He would fill the house with his piano music, and the house has just been silent, um, since he left." "The music stopped." "LISA:" "Wow." "CAITLYN:" "That'stheproblem." "That's-that's the problem that we have here is it happens all the time." "Suicide is a permanent solution for a very temporary problem, and most of the ones that are at risk are these young kids, okay?" "ESTHER:" "They're-they'restill children." "CAITLYN:" "Gottheirwholelife  ahead of 'em." "It just doesn't need to happen." "That kind of hit home." "I know how these kids can feel." "I've had some very dark moments in my life." "I have been in my house... with a gun and said..." "Let's just end it right here." "Um, no more pain, no more suffering."" "That struggle..." "it's real." "And I've been there." "(birds chirping) KIM:" "Hello." "CAITLYN:" "Hey!" "Look who's here!" "KIM:" "Youlookbeautiful." "CAITLYN:" "Well,thankyou very much-- not as good as you." "Good to see you." "KANYE:" "Whatup ?" "CAITLYN:" "Goodto seeyou ." "Thanks." "Come on in." "Welcome to my home." "KIM:" "Hi." "PAM:" "Longtimenosee." "CAITLYN:" "SisterPam." "PAM:" "Weknoweachother." "CAITLYN:" "Myoldersister." "PAM:" "Wehaven'tmet ." "Nice to meet you." "KANYE:" "Hey,howare you ?" "CAITLYN:" "KanyeandIhave  never really been very close, but, um, I love his open-mindedness, and I love how he's helped Kim come to grips with what's going on." "KIM:" "Youlookbeautiful." "You know, the one thing I'm really shocked about is how skinny... you are." "You literally look like Kendall." "Like Kendall's mom." "(laughter) KANYE:" "I mean,Ithinkthis  is one of the strongest things that have happened in our, you know, existence as human beings that are so controlled by perception." "'Cause you couldn't have been up against more." "Like, your daughter's a supermodel." "You're a celebrity." "You have every type of thing, and it was still like, "(bleep) everybody." "This is who I am."" "CAITLYN:" "Thisis allgood." "KIM:" "Thisis justthe  beginning." "CAITLYN:" "Thisis allgood." "KIM:" "Justthebeginning." "ESTHER:" "Areyougonnatake  your coat off?" "I want to see what you're wearing." "KIM:" "Oh,nothinghardlyfits  anymore, so it's, like, a half-zipped-up skirt." "ESTHER:" "I readthatyou 're expecting." "PAM:" "That'sright." "KIM:" "Yes." "Yes,yes ." "PAM:" "Congratulations." "KIM:" "Thankyou." "We've wanted this for a long time." "PAM:" "That'swonderful." "KIM:" "Yeah." "PAM:" "So,tellmeaboutthe untied shoelaces." "KANYE:" "Thesearesockshoes, so they, like..." "PAM:" "Oh,yeah." "Oh, look at how light they are." "KANYE:" "Yeah." "Butthe laces are sort of after the fact." "PAM:" "Yeah." "Notnecessaryto keep 'em on your feet." "KANYE:" "Yeah." "PAM:" "Yeah." "Okay." "I just wanted to be cool, so..." "(laughter)" "KIM:" "Allright,can Isee these new things in your closet?" "CAITLYN:" "Okay." "They gave me a ton of stuff." "Tom Ford stuff." "Diane von Furstenberg sent me this-- three, three outfits." "KIM:" "Ooh." "Ilikethat ." "That's so nice." "I like the plain black." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah...thisisall kind of a little bit more casual stuff here." "This is all vanity... so much better than what you had before." "Like, I was secretly dying in your last closet." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,secretly dying?" "Yeah, this is all just kind of very casual, good stuff." "KIM:" "Butthishas got togo." "Like... this...?" "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "Oh ,Iagree." "And that's the one they caught me in." "KIM:" "I know." "CAITLYN:" "I said,"Oh,myGod," "Kim's gonna shoot me." KIM:" "Oh,it looksblackand white-- no, this has got to go." "I said that last time I saw it." "CAITLYN:" "I lovethisTom Ford dress." "KIM:" "Momhasthat." "CAITLYN:" "What'sthat?" "KIM:" "Momhasthat." "CAITLYN:" "Um..." "KIM:" "Soit 'llbe likea "Who Wore It Better?"" "CAITLYN:" "Actually,no ,no , "Who Wore It Best?"" "KIM:" "Shehasitinchocolate brown." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,no ." "We got to do that." "Isn't that..." "Wouldn't that be the funniest thing ever?" "KIM:" "Yes..." "No ,youshould just come over, like, at a time where, you know, I know she's there." "CAITLYN:" "Right." "KIM:" "AndI'lljustpick out an outfit for her to wear, and I'll say, "Oh, my God, I'm gonna take you to dinner." "You should wear this."" "CAITLYN:" "Yes." "KIM:" "Andthenyou should stop by..." "CAITLYN:" "Andwe 'llboth have the same outfit." "That is..." "KIM:" "Yes...(laughs) CAITLYN:" "Thatis funny." "I better wear it before she does." "KIM:" "Verycool." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "PAM:" "Oh,theretheyare." "CAITLYN:" "They'releaving." "And so are you guys." "ESTHER:" "Goodto seeyou  again." "KIM:" "Ofcourse." "Bye, everyone." "CAITLYN:" "Bye,babe!" "I know." "All right, good-bye, Mom." "You're out of here, too." "PAM:" "We'llseeyou soon." "ESTHER:" "Bye,Bruce." "CAITLYN:" "Allright,have a good trip back." "ESTHER:" "I loveyou." "CAITLYN:" "Loveyou,too ." "ESTHER:" "I alwaysdidand I always will." "CAITLYN:" "I know,Iknow." "It's 'cause I got this adorable personality." "That's what it is." "It's the adorable personality." "ESTHER:" "I likeit better." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,good,good." "Okay, good." "ESTHER:" "I wasso proudof" "Bruce when he stood on that podium, receiving that gold medal in Montreal." "And I had tears and the American flag was going up in the middle, and I thought I could never be more proud of him." "And, you know, I was wrong." "Because I am more proud of him for the courage that he has shown." "I loved him with all my heart, and I certainly love her with all my heart." "(crickets chirping) (water running)" "CAITLYN:" "Forme ,themost important thing is to learn about other people." "So far, down in San Diego, there has been three suicides of trans teens." "It's devastating." "Kyler Prescott, 14 years old, had his whole life ahead of him." "14... years... old." "I reached out to Katharine, his mother, and I want to spend a little bit of time with her and find out what we can do to make a difference." "Under the cover of darkness." "So, heading for San Diego." "I'd say we go up the hill." "They'll never see us." "DRIVER:" "Uh,they'rewaiting up there, too." "CAITLYN:" "Thekeytothis trip  is a clean break from the paparazzi." "Actually, we've only got one guy following us." "DRIVER:" "They'repostedall  through the hill, so..." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,yeah." "We just, uh... changed cars." "Now I'm in this..." "luxury van." "DRIVER:" "There'sasilver" "Lexus up here parked." "There he is." "CAITLYN:" "I heardtheprice tag just for a picture of me is" "$250,000." "They are extraordinarily aggressive." "I don't want to bring that kind of tabloid attention to Kyler's family." "Damn." "CAITLYN:" "Nowwe 'regoingto get a third car." "It seems like we've lost the paparazzi." "Every journey is different, and to learn those stories, it just kind of educates me." "I can't even imagine what" "Kyler's family's going through." "Uh, I don't know what I can do, at this point, but just be a friend." "Hello." "How are you?" "KATHARINE:" "Hi." "I'mKatharine." "CAITLYN:" "Thankyoufor  inviting me down." "KATHARINE:" "Thankyou." "CAITLYN:" "Howareyou doing?" "KATHARINE:" "Hangingin there." "CAITLYN:" "Hello." "KATHARINE:" "Thisis Chloe." "CAITLYN:" "Niceto meetyou ." "CARL:" "I 'mCarl." "CAITLYN:" "Hi." "Nicetomeet  you, Carl." "Thanks for inviting me down." "What a cute kid." "KATHARINE:" "I know." "He is, huh?" "CAITLYN:" "Lookat that." "Love the hair." "KATHARINE:" "Yeah." "He wasa beautiful kid with a beautiful soul." "Kyler was truly an amazing..." "an amazing kid." "I was proud of him for working so hard to be his authentic self." "CAITLYN:" "Fromaparent's perspective, when... you know, this kind of probably came out of left field..." "KATHARINE:" "Absolutely." "Um, I knew nothing about it when we started." "I just luckily had an open mind and an open heart from the beginning." "From the very first day, I said," ""Sweetheart, I love you." "No matter what, I love you."" "And, unfortunately, not all transgender teens get that." "Um..." "CAITLYN:" "That'sforsure." "KATHARINE:" "Yeah,Iguess that's an understatement." "That's something else I want people to understand is that even with this full support of your family, it's still a hard journey." "People always assume when they talk to me that Kyler was bullied by other kids or something like that, and that's actually not really the case." "Really where he had the most problems was with adults not understanding, people out in society that really didn't understand that he needed them to use a male pronoun." "And he had a legal name and gender change." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,he did?" "KATHARINE:" "Hedid." "And the new birth certificate arrived, unfortunately, just a few days after he passed away." "CAITLYN:" "Noway." "KATHARINE:" "Yeah." "And that was heartbreaking because he would have loved to have seen the new birth certificate." "CAITLYN:" "Lovedit ." "KATHARINE:" "ButIdon 'tthink any suicide is a sim... has a simple cause." "It's always a complex set of things that are challenging that kid." "CAITLYN:" "Weneedmore tolerance and empathy towards other people." "It's so hard for young people because they just don't..." "they-they can't see the future." "And because of that, they become extraordinarily desperate, and suicide becomes an option." "We have to do something about that." "KATHARINE:" "Hewasgonnaget there, and he was gonna do amazing things..." "CAITLYN:" "Hewasjust... needed to turn that corner." "KATHARINE:" "Yeah." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "KATHARINE:" "Hewasyoung, you know?" "He was still just 14, and at that age, they just don't realize they're gonna get through it, they can get through it, they can get to these wonderful things on the other side." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "KATHARINE:" "Todaysome students are going to be doing a balloon release in Kyler's honor, which is so sweet." "CAITLYN:" "Thatis nice." "KATHARINE:" "SoIwouldlove it if you want to come and see." "CAITLYN:" "I wouldbe honored." "I would love to meet everybody." "KATHARINE:" "Itwillbea  beautiful moment." "CAITLYN:" "Itwillbe." "KATHARINE:" "Thisis asong that was written by a friend of ours." "It's a beautiful song, and it was written... for Kyler." "But it will speak to kids everywhere." "SINGERS:♪ Youwakeinthe morning but you can't seem to" "♪ Get out of your bed And the weight of the covers" "♪ Is the weight of the world Of the people who care if you're" "♪ A boy or a girl But there's just one thing you" "♪ Need to know Love you no matter what... ♪" "CAITLYN:" "Youngpeople,they have to realize there is so much help out there." "Thank you for telling your story." "And sometimes it's not always the parents-- it's outside help." "It's a friend, it's a therapist, organizations that are willing to help." "It's somebody in your life that you can open up with and tell 'em your feelings and what's happening in your head." "MACY:" "Hi,I'mMacy." "CAITLYN:" "Hello." "Caitlyn." "Nice to meet you." "MACY:" "Niceto meetyou ." "Thank you so much for coming." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,thanksfor  having me." "MACY:" "I 'mgonnacry." "Like, um..." "like, he was, like, the first friend that I made this year, and..." "I don't know, I've been..." "I've attempted suicide before, and it got better for me." "I just... (sighs) It's not fair that he didn't get to see that it gets better." "SINGERS:♪ Whydoesithave  to be so hard?" "♪ I love you for being true to who you are ♪ CAITLYN:" "Seekhelp." "You just have to get through that day." "BOY:" "Allright!" "(cheering)" "SINGER:♪ Sobe whoyou truly are... ♪" "CAITLYN:" "Grouphug!" "Group hug!" "(laughter) CAITLYN:" "Justthegals." "GIRL:" "Thankyou." "CAITLYN:" "LittleCaitlyn'sout  into the world." "CANDIS:" "Yay!" "Welcome!" "CAITLYN:" "Yay!" "Right now, every day's a new adventure." "Road trip?" "!" "WOMAN:" "Howdo we sneakyou  out of here?" "CAITLYN:" "Inatrunk." "(laughing) CAITLYN:" "Whathappensat a slumber party?" "WOMAN2 :" "Youpillowfight, you tell ghost stories..." "CAITLYN:" "Pillowfight?" "!" "?" "WOMAN2 :" "Youcompareyour boob sizes... (Caitlyn laughs) WOMAN3 :" "Bathingsuits." "You need a sexy one for Candis." "CAITLYN:" "We'renotgoing there." "CANDIS:" "Wouldyouliketogo  out on a date?" "(Caitlyn chuckles)" "CAITLYN:" "Butbecauseofmy status, everybody is looking at me as the spokesperson for the transgender community." "WOMAN4 :" "Nervous?" "CAITLYN:" "Offthecharts." "WOMAN4 :" "I 'mafraidpeople will think it's all about makeup and hair." "And yet there are all these trans women out there who are in real danger." "WOMAN5 :" "I wasdoing sex work." "MAN:" "I wasso suicidalfor so much of my life." "WOMAN6 :" "I gotstabbedhere in the chest." "WOMAN7 :" "Oh,my God." "CAITLYN:" "I 'mthinkingabout my family, and I'm thinking about all this kind of stuff, and I'm struggling with it." "Khloe's upset." "She didn't like the article..." "RONDA:" "Well,youbetterput your armor on, and your helmets, and get ready." "KIM:" "Youlookamazing;" "it's your time; but you don't have to bash us on your way up." "CAITLYN:" "I don'twanttohurt  my kids." "The guys are tougher." "They want me to be the old" "Bruce." "SCOTT:" "It'sgonnatakesome  getting used to, I think, for everybody." "WOMAN8 :" "I thoughtof it as  my great curse to be trans." "Now I think of it as my great gift." "CAITLYN:" "WhatI'mhopingfor is that the world is gonna follow along with me and we can learn together." "WOMAN7 :" "Stoplookingonthe outside and start looking on the inside." "We want to be just normal people." "MAN2 :" "Ifyouhavea transgender kid, you are living with a unicorn, an amazing human being." 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