"He is, without a doubt, one of the greatest contemporary artists alive today." "And he gives life to garbage." "He abuses strange materials." "And he has attracted huge crowds to his exhibitions." "Vik Muniz, come on down!" "When I said he's one of the greatest artists alive," "I'm not exaggerating." "I really believe that, and everyone agrees." "There is just no doubt about it." "Can you tell us how you came to use materials from the garbage?" "Once I was driving in Sao Paulo..." "I see a fight." "I stop to break the fight apart." "When I am going back to my car..." "I got shot by one of the guys who Thought was the guy fighting with him." "Sorry I have to do this." "Luckily he was very rich... and he gave me some money." "And that's why I bought the ticket... to come to America in 1983... and that's why I am talking to you today." "Because I got shot in the leg." "Oh my God, this is so amazing!" "I really feel weird." "This is very very strange." "I used to push these carts here." "Now, they have these things for the carts." "In my time, they had no thing which can return your cart." "One of my jobs was to clean up... after the dumpster." "From the meat dumpsters." "I would spend the whole day... shoveling the worst possible matter... organic matter left by the truck." "Sugar Children was probably the most important work... of my career." "I think this is the first time that I addressed... the fact of material as something that exists... in the world with its own importance." "These are children from the Caribbean island, of St. Kitts." "They are sons and daughters of plantation workers." "I would imagine the progression from these beautiful amazing children... to a grown, that would be just as happy... because it was paradise." "But their parents were very sad, tired, weary people... who worked 16 hour shifts in the sugar fields." "I kept thinking about what was missing in the transition... from a childhood like that to being very sad grownups." "And it was sugar." "The sweetness was taken from those children." "When I came back to New York I started drawing their faces with sugar..." "I realized that I could make volumes with that." "It was quite beautiful." "I shot these with a camera." "People from the New York Times... wrote a review about it and later, the Museum of Modern Art... invited me to be part of the new photography show." "So it changed my career entirely... the work that I did with these children." "Right now, I am this point in my career... that I am trying to step a little bit away... from the realm of fine art." "Because I think that it is a very exclusive... very restrictive place to be." "What I really want to do is to be able to change... the lives of a group of people... with the dame materials that they deal with every day." "And not just any material." "The idea I have for my next series... is to work with garbage." "When you talk about transformation... this being the stuff of art... transforming material and ideas..." "I don't know." "This is the beginning of an idea..." "I just have the material." "And I have to go after an image." "Hey Fabio." "So did you have a chance to look at that garbage thing?" "Yes... check the link I just sent you." "On You Tube there is a video that was shot at this place called Gramacho." "Gramacho Gardens it's the biggest landfill in Rio." "They receive the trash from all the Rio area." "What are the dangers of working in a place like this?" "First of all, the place is surrounded by favelas... owned by the drug traffic." "And I think the stability of the people themselves... they are all excluded from society." "Some stay there overnight... or the whole week." "It's gonna be hard." "So do you think it is too hard?" "No, because it would be much harder to think we are not able... to change the life of these people." "And I think we are." "So I think it's worth a try." "My experience with mixing art... with social projects... is that is the main thing... is taking people away even if it is for two minutes... away from where they are." "And showing them another world... another place." "Even it's just a place from where they can look at where they are..." "You know it just changes everything." "I want this to be an experience of how art... can change people... but also..." "Can it change people?" "Can this be done?" "And what would be the effects of this?" "This is where I am going to spend the next two years of my life." "And your going to make drawings out of the garbage?" "And your going to employ the people that live there?" "And work there?" "How is it going to be the whole health issue... if you work with them?" "It is not exactly safe to do what they do." "They don't question it, because they feed from there." "Yeah, but we do." "It's hard to make those assumptions from looking at Google Earth." "We have to go there and see what they really need." "And you are going to create everything?" "I want also... the iconography to develop from my interaction with them." "See what is important to them." "What would they like to make an image big?" "What would they like to show?" "Maybe it will end up just being portraits." "But do you think people they are open to work like this?" "I have no idea." "These are the roughest... people you can think of, all drug addicts." "It's like the end of the line." "Check out the geography of this thing." "This is the end of the line..." "This is where everything that is not good goes." "Including the people." "We are working with the type of individuals that... are in Brazilian society, not different than garbage itself." "The most poisonous thing in Brazilian culture and society, is classicism." "It's horrible how people really believe... and I am talking about educated people..." "They really believe they are better than other people." "You see?" "It's all recycling industry around here." "People all dealing with garbage." "Every single lot is filled with garbage." "And you see people are carrying garbage?" "It's like a garbage land." "People look at us in a funny way, "What the hell are we doing here?"" "I see the hill." "Oh shit." "Oh my God." "It's like a mountain." "Where are we exactly?" "Right here." "Hi Lucio, I'm Vik." "Pleasure to meet you." "Hi, how are you doing?" "What's really impressive... is that it's the largest landfill in the world." "Yes, it's the largest landfill in terms of the volume of trash received daily." "The ground underneath here is all soft." "The landfill is like a plate of jell-o." "If you keep adding to it without careful balancing... it will sink here or collapse there." "You can see what they're recycling over there." "And it's separate there." "Cardboard, paper, plastics, glass, metal - they collect everything." "It works like a stock exchange." "They collect whatever the market demands at any given time." "So the recycling wholesalers tell the pickers what they need... and then that's what they collect." "Yes, that's right." "They sell the materials right here at the landfill." "And then it goes to the recycling wholesalers, the intermediaries." "There they process it, removing the bottle caps and so on." "From there it goes to another company for shredding." "The shredded material gets sold again... to companies who mold it into car bumpers, buckets, etc." "The pickers take out 200 tons of materials per day from the landfill." " Every day." " Every day." "That's equivalent to the garbage produced by a city of 400,000 people." " Amazing!" " Yeah." "So that's why the pickers are really important to the landfill... because they help increase its capacity." "Does all of Rio's trash end up here?" "70% of Rio's trash ends up here... and 100% of the closest suburbs." "So the garbage from the millionaire's mansion mixes... with the garbage from the poorest favela?" "For sure." "Dude!" "Dude, It's a city of garbage!" "It's funny how you get used to the smell." "Yeah, I feel right at home!" " Did you hear that one?" " No." "That guy said, "They're filming for Animal Planet!"" "It's not as bad as I thought." "Here we are in the largest sanitary facility... in the world." "And the people are talking." "And I don't see people depressed or anything." "They seem very proud of what they are doing." "We better get out of here." "What you see up there... it looks very chaotic, but it's very organized by material... and by the company that picks it up and takes it to the recycling." "He's the radio." "Enjoying the game?" "The pickers who sort through the garbage." "I learned here is that they have... there own choices of solid garbage of recyclable garbage." "Women for instance they prefer recyclable plastic... and soft drink bottles... and disposable plastic because it's lighter." "This is where the trucks stop?" "Yeah the trucks give us a ride up here." "And you each take your own barrels with you?" "Yeah, we have to buy them." "They cost US$30." "What's your name?" "Isis Rodrigues Garros." " Isis Rodrigo?" " Rodrigues." "Let me get a portrait of you two." "Do it again." "Thank you." " Bye, thank you." " Bye, Isis." "How about with my hair down?" "Film her!" "Film her!" "What a show-off!" " Bye, thanks everyone!" " Bye Isis." "Let me introduce you to Zumbi." "His nickname is Zumbi." "He's on the board of the Association of Pickers of Jardim Gramacho, ACAMJG." "We have to think about the future... because I don't want my son to be a picker." "Although if he is, I'd be very proud..." "But I'd rather he be a lawyer, to represent the pickers, you know?" "Or a doctor to care for the pickers in the association." "We're here representing the 3,000 pickers of Jardim Gramacho." "There is still no recycling collection in the city." "You haven't even built anything and you want to sell off the land." "The federal government gave us that land to build a recycling center." "Thanks to the pickers... we built a recycling center without a single cent from the city." "And now you are pretending that we don't exist!" "We're going to start a hunger strike here in front of the mayor's office." "Hunger strike!" "?" "Yeah, right!" "I don't know about you guys, but I'm having lunch at noon!" "Is it here?" "Excuse me." "Excuse me, Sebastião?" " I'm Vik, a pleasure to meet you." " A pleasure, I'm Tião." " This is Fabio." " Hi Fabio, how are you?" "I'm the Brazilian artist who is the most" " I hate to say this... but who sells and is the most popular overseas." "Congratulations man!" "I grew up very poor, but now I've reached a point where I want to give back." "I want to make portraits of the pickers and then sell them." "All the money from the sale of the portraits will be given back to you." "You'll be able to do some things to make life easier for the community." "When we started this association, everyone laughed at us." ""You're crazy, that's not going anywhere!"" ""Association for what?" "You're never going to achieve anything."" "Everybody criticized us." "Even the pickers, they were the worst." "They said it wouldn't lead anywhere, that it would never work." "I believed in it." "I said no." "Now I believe when you put your mind to something, you can achieve it." "Take you, for example." "How many people told you to give up, that it was never going to happen?" "Yeah, starting with my father, my own father." "He'd say "That's bullshit."" ""It's not going to get you anywhere."" "When we demonstrated they'd say "That's not going to get you anywhere."" "Well we have paved roads and a sewage system now." "If you went outside right now you'd see children in the street, picking garbage." "We need to change that." "I was lucky because I had my grandmother, and she taught me to read at a very young age." "Yeah, reading is so important." "Some people are crazy and throw away their books." "It's absurd." "One time Zumbi brought me a book and he almost cried." "He said "Man, this book is still being sold." "I saw it yesterday and it's expensive!"" "It looks like someone barely read it and just threw it away." "Wow that's great!" "Yeah it's great that Zumbi picks them out of the trash and brings them here!" "The other pickers just tear up books and recycle them." "But Zumbi picks out the good books, and brings them here for us to read." "I collect 'arruivo' meaning books, folders." "Paper." "We have thousands of books... because they're dumped in the landfill all the time." "I have a plan to make a community library in my space." "Up until now, I've been responsible for bringing books to the association." "I've read a few books - The Da Vinci Code, The Art of War." "And I give a lot of books to Tião." "Shit!" "Man!" "It's good to fly over... so we can see what we are up against." "And it's like this all over." "This is by far the worst I have seen." "It looks like they were completely left." "And the day after we left there... in the afternoon they found a body there." "They can just stick a body there..." "And it's going to be under the garbage in 12 hours." "And you become a source of methane gas." "I already see just as a beginning." "I see 3 characters:" "Tiao, Zumbi, Isis." "I think we can start... with the people we have already made some contact with." "I think it is the first time I saw... something that you are doing... where it looks better when you are close." "From above... you don't have any of the human factor." "Which so far is the best part of what we encountered there?" "Yes." "The human factor there is beautiful really." "From far there is not "desmaios", the people choking." "There was none of that." "They were just like little ants... doing what they do every day." "What?" "Hein?" "Hold it here for me, please." "Howdy folks!" "There's still the card problem." "The fight is long comrade..." " but victory is certain!" " Of course." "It's not bad to be poor." "It's bad to be rich at the height of fame with your morals a dirty shame." "Yeah, yeah." "That's bad!" "DANGER." "RISK OF LIFE." " This is Valter dos Santos." " Good morning!" " Hi!" "I'm Vik, Vik Muniz." " I'm Valter dos Santos." "What is this and why are you doing it?" "We are making portraits of the picker." "Because the picker is a person... like this garbage, that nobody knows about." "Very well, so from what I understand," "I think this is very good for us... because it will raise awareness about us pickers." " Isn't that about right?" " Exactly." "I hope you understand me because I don't have... either a primary or a secondary education." "You didn't ask me, but I'm going to introduce myself." "I like introducing myself with my own voice." "I have been a picker here for 26 years." "I am proud to be a picker." "I'm the Vice President of ACAMJG... the Association of Pickers of Jardim Gramacho." "I represent 2,500 pickers who work here at the landfill." "I carry this with pride." "Let's say each household generates one kilo of garbage." "And one kilo of garbage generates 500 grams of recyclable material." "So a thousand homes generate 500 kilos... of material that could be recycled." "That's 500 kilos less of material that would pollute the rivers, the lagoons... that won't clog the sewers or be buried here in the landfill... doing such great harm to nature and the environment." "I try to explain to people... what they can recycle and what they can compost... and what they should do." "People sometimes say "But one single can?"" "One single can is of great importance." "Because 99 is not 100, and that single one will make the difference." "I feel disgusting." "I can't believe you want to show me all dirty." "So tell me Isis, how long have you worked here?" " Five years." " Five years?" "And what's it like working here?" " Really bad." "Awful." " Really bad?" "You don't like it?" "Look Vik, it's Vik, right?" "This isn't a future." "But you make good money here, right?" "Yes, I make US$20-$25 a day." "Beautiful!" "That's right!" "Very good!" "It really is very good." "Think about what you're going to do when you get out of Gramacho." "When you're rich and famous." "I met someone." "And today I am in love with him." "He is a truck driver." "It's just that..." "I can't talk about it or I'll start to cry." "It's been 2 weeks since we broke up." "I really like him." "He was a good thing in my life." "But it's been two weeks since we broke up." "I got a tattoo of his name on my leg." "And you won't get back together?" "I don't think so." "Why did you break up?" "It ended because... he was married." "And so it ended." "Look out!" "Get out of the way!" "I have nothing to complain about in my life." "Nothing, nothing at all." "Oh, man, if I complained God would punish me." "Tell him what you want be." "I want to be a doctor." "What kind a doctor?" "A psychologist." "Did you know that psychologists take care of crazy people?" " Yeah." " No, that's not true." "No?" "So what do psychologists do?" "There was a woman there who was blonde." "Oh." "Beto's wife!" "And she told me that if I wanted I could be a psychologist." "So that's why I want to be a psychologist." "It's ruiet now because there are no wars between the favelas." "But when there are wars between the favelas... you can be sure that a lot of dead bodies will be dumped here." "There are always weird things here." "Marat!" "Yeah, who's Marat?" " Marat was an intellectual..." " Oh, like me." "Nobody else likes the guys I like." "I like Machiavelli." "Machiavelli's cool." " Who I really like is Nietzsche." " What about Nietzsche?" "Nietzsche's got a great philosophy on life." "Let's make Tião into Marat." "He died in the bathtub like this." " Bring that bathtub!" " I'm going to play a dead guy." "One time I was walking in the garbage and I came across this book." "It was all muddy and on it was written "The Prince" by Machiavelli." "I felt like reading it so I took it home and put it behind the fridge to dry." "When it dried out I began to read." "Machiavelli wrote about all of the princes of his day." "That time period in Florence, that madness... it reminds me a lot of Rio today, all these different fiefdoms... each with their own gangs and their own fortifications." "I got really into it." "He talks about Moses, who became leader because God talked to him." "And Cesare Borgia, because of the corrupt pope." "That was when I was becoming President of the Association." "I learned a lot." "Be careful!" "You can get further in, and sit up a bit more." "My legs will stick out." " You can bend them." " We'll cut that out." "He's like this." "That's it." "This piece of paper is in the left hand." "This hand." "That's it exactly!" "That's right!" " Got it!" " Thank you, Tião!" "Very cool, man!" "Do you want juice?" "Coffee?" "This is beef stew, rib stew." "Here's boiling water to make pasta." "Hand me that bag!" "When the market produce ends up here in boxes, it's easier for me." "I get potatoes and vegetables." "The drivers from the supermarket trucks bring me clean vegetables." "If the meat truck comes, the boys get it before the expiration date." "I am a trained cook, a restaurant cook." "In this garbage I make many things." "I make salads, potato, roast beef." "When I can get a good cut of meat, I roast it for them." "And them they get silly and sing me happy birthday, even though it isn't my birthday." "We feel good in here." "I feel very good." "Even if it rains, I get the fire running to cook." "I don't let anyone go hungry." " Just like that." " Like that?" "That's right, but face me!" "Don't put this on TV, I'd die." "I first came here almost a year ago." "My husband became unemployed." "And we had to pay the bills, keep the household, support my son." "We would get on the bus, and people would go like this." "It's quite a perfume!" "It got to the point where I'd say:" "Excuse me ma'am, but do I stink?" "Do you smell something bad?" "It's because I was working over there in the dump." "It's better than turning tricks in Copacabana." "I find it to be more interesting and more honest." "It's more dignified." "I stink now, but when I get home I'll take a shower, and it'll be fine." "But it's disgusting." "It's easy for you to be sitting there at home in front of your television... consuming whatever you want and tossing everything in the trash... and leaving it out on the street for the garbage truck to take it away." "But where does that garbage go?" "That's it." "We go along." "The fight is expensive." "We have a great value." "Come on boy!" "Come here and get your hands dirty." "When you go to get your money you don't say it's dirty." "Easy there." "Let's go." "Come on, come on!" "Fabio, we need to see what material you're going to use." "Ok, so the easiest thing to decide is the carnival stuff." "Costumes and things like that?" "Costumes and things because clear glass is no of no use for me." "But green champagne bottles, brown beer bottles, costumes... you could collect things like that for me." "Are we going to do it by weight or by tarpful?" "How do we do it?" "They told me that a tarp cost US$0.40 per kilo?" "Per kilo, yeah." "And they said that one cost US$0.70 cents?" "Yes, US$0.71 cents." "This is PET." "When it makes that noise you know it's PET." "That for example is not PET, it's PP." "It's the most expensive." "And what about brown glass?" "Glass we have to pick specially, we normally don't pick glass." " No?" " No, normally we don't." " Do you have a price for it?" " Glass is US$0.06 cents per kilo." " Six cents?" "It's cheaper than PET?" " Yeah, it's a lot cheaper." " But it's a lot heavier." " But it's a lot heavier." "What's all that mixed up over there, bottles, that hoses..." "That's all PVC." "PVC is almost all made up of different objects." "Right." "There are jellies." "X-rays." "PVC is what I will use the most." "It gives you the feeling of being "everything"." "Of objects." "For me PVC is the filet mignon Definitely." "And I'll use the PET and glass more as filler." "To fill it up." " Just white Paper." " PET, metals." "Just white paper." "Watch the truck!" "Here it comes!" "Watch the truck!" "Before coming to the landfill, we had a calm life." "My mother still lived with my father." "I was the oldest and I had two younger brothers." "But then my father died." "You're sowing, throwing grain like this." " I'm sowing." " Yeah." "This hand here can be relaxed and open." "My mother was struggling." "We heard about Jardim Gramacho." "My mother came here, and then I came too." "I started to help her out." "I was nine years old." "My mother worked here for a while, but then she died as well." "Once, I was collecting here on the ramp... when the gate of the garbage truck fell off." "It fell on me, and started to drag me and crush me..." "I broke my leg, my arm." "I fractured a rib." "I broke my other arm here." "I was in really bad shape." "If it weren't for my friends here..." "Over 20 people donated blood." "It was great for the hospital because their blood bank was filled." "People here gave me a lot of support." "It's better than during the day, there are less people." "It's better than being out there... like a lot of people, prostituting yourself." "We are working honestly." "We're earning our living." "I've worked since I was seven years old." "Now I'm 18." "I eat what I find around here." "I take it from the truck." "Yogurt comes along, whatever comes along, I eat it." "If I don't die, it's not bad." "I can get by." "We see things that aren't pleasant." "Like the other day I went up there and something made me throw up..." "There was a baby there that had been thrown away." "I fell over backwards." "I immediately thought of my own kids." " It was dead?" " Yes." "Rent is US$8 per week." "If you are late and pay on Monday it's US$13." "I go home to see my kids every couple of weeks." "Sometimes I'll just go and come back on the same day." "My daughter is three years old, my son is almost two." "Their father is a drug dealer." "If I counted on him, I'd be screwed." "Sometimes I get visitors, the rats." "They run around in the roof." "It drives me crazy." "I run out of here screaming." "Even when they're asleep, they annoy me." "They fall off the roof onto the bed sometimes." "Bye." " Leaving already?" " Yes." "My daughter caught a fungus." "My mother also got the fungus." "The thing covered her foot." "It messed up her whole foot." "She ended up staying at home and taking care of my kids." " Where are you going?" " Home." "I would like to take care of children." "I really love children, my own as well as other people's." "If it was up to me, I'd open a day care center." "There are so many children." "Come here you beautiful thing." "How are you?" "Come here you beautiful thing." "Give mommy a kiss!" "Give me a kiss!" "And you?" "Are you OK?" "No?" "No?" "What's going on?" "And you?" "Are you OK?" "Here is our kitchen." "It's small, but you can still make a little something in it." "We make food on that stove." "Here is the living room where we put a bunc of junk." "The bathroom is here." "Oh this bathroom is bad, cut the bathroom." "Here's the bedroom." "This isn't a bed, it's really just a chest of drawers." "We improvised and put the mattress on top." "Everyone sleeps piled up here." "Here's the most recent baby of the house." "TV." "Fan." "I moved here after I split from their father." "He beat me and I got so hurt, I had to get out of there." "And there was no other way to survive, so I stayed here." "She is my eldest and she took care of the kids so I could work." "We had to survive somehow." "After a while, we all had to go to the garbage." "There was no one to leave them with, so I brought them with me." "I moved in with their father when I was twelve." "I'm proud of my work... because at least I'm not involved with the drug traffic... or prostituting myself, like a lot of pretty girls around here do." "They could be trying to achieve something in life, but no." "They prefer to throw themselves out there onto the street... prostituting themselves." "Right there." "Magnetic tape." "Is that film?" "Yes, there are a lot of rolls up there." "I'm going to be Mona Lisa." "What's that?" "It has be a woman of a certain age to wear shoes like that." "She must have worked as an executive, right?" "To work in a shoe with a pointy toe like that?" "Here's a tape." "They must have a camera." " A camera film." " And they've got a computer." "This trash is totally middle class." "Wait a minute, Playboy?" ""Dear Subscriber... you are now part of an exclusive club that receives Playboy... the best men's magazine in the country."" "This guy liked..." "And then he died." "This guy didn't have a lot of money." "This one here?" "This comes from poor people because it comes in little bags." " "Poor is the trash of the poor."" " I put my trash in little bags too." "To think you guys have gone through my trash." "Actually I like this picture." "What we should do now is get rid of... is choose the best pictures." "This one." "So good." "Yeah, I love it too." "Super super strong." "This is super strong." "This is super strong, also." "I love Isis and Suelem but these shots aren't quite right." "We can shoot them in the studio also." "Yeah, it's not a problem." " How's it going?" " What's up?" "How are you?" "Everyone who goes to a museum, goes up to a painting... and then they stop and start to go like this." "Have you seen this?" "Everyone does it." " Are they drunk?" " It looks like it." "They go like this, and then they go back... maybe take a little step back." "And then they see the image." "Imagine it's a beautiful landscape with a lake and a man fishing." "They look and see the man fishing... and they lean in an everything vanishes and becomes paint." "They see the material." "They move away and see the image." "They get closer and see the material." "They move away and see the idea." "They get closer and see just the material." "Since we're pickers, we just see recyclable materials." " It earns money." " But that's interesting..." "You have one point of view." "I got it what this can do with people." "I bet you people stay much longer at your exhibits than anyone does." "They'll spend so much time looking at the image... because then they'll see the ladder, the piano." "They'll look at everything." "They'll spend hours looking at the same picture." "When one thing turns into another is the most beautiful moment." "A combination of sounds transforms into music." "And that applies to everything." "That moment is really magical." "Looks good." "You want to dress up like mommy, in a sheet?" "Let me see here." "You're going to be just like a little saint." "You're going to sit here." "Move your legs a bit, is that ok?" "That's it." "Didn't it come out beautifully?" "This whole area will be filled in with stuff." "And it will be clearer at the sides." "Exactly." "When you are placing the materials, follow the shadows of the picture." "Did you just do this one?" "Do the same thing with the shorter one." "I want to close this here and see if it makes more sense like that." "See this line going up..." "Is there a way to take something away here?" "Take off one more." "That's it." "Brooke de Ocampo, Isis." " Hi, how are you?" " Suelen." "Hi." "This is Magna." " Hi." " How are you?" "Brooke has a super important job at an international auction company." "So we're going to make a really big photograph of this." "And she's already agreed to take it to an international sale." "There'll be a guy with a hammer, going, going, going, gone." "Suelen and her two kids." "It all started by the feeling that we should do something... that will convert back to them." "We'll make something out of garbage... and it would be sold for a lot of money." "And it will become something they would put their hands on to help them." "And in the end, they won't say:" ""Vik did it." "Right." " We did it." " Right." "I had just arrived from the bank and given the money to Gloria." "I was standing by the door and I saw him and another man coming towards us with a pointed gun." "They told us not to move." "And they took everybody's wages." "How much money was there?" "Six..." "US$6,000." "I keep asking myself if it's worth it." "And the comission?" "Sometimes I just feel like giving up on all of this." "I don't want to be here anymore." "The presents are this small." "Try making it gradually darker from here to here, does that make sense?" "Good work everyone." "It came out beautifully!" "That's not garbage, it's recyclable material, it's money." "A lot of money." "Oh man that's crazy." "It looks exactly like me." "Oh, my!" "Man!" "I never imagined I'd become a work of art." "Take a look." "See?" "That's me?" "Yes ma'am, that's your arm." "It's this photo right here." "You're looking in that direction..." " that's your arm." " I see." "Everything is made out of recyclable materials from the landfill." "I see." "How charming!" "It's so well done." "Excuse me while I have a look over here." " Come on, come on, look." " My God." "Let's see if I understand it right." "Oh yes." "I understand!" "Here's the arm." "I understand." "It's all recyclable materials." "Look at this." "As far as you can see." "You see huge buildings." "It becomes sort of a textural thing." "You lose that sense of scale." "It starts to look small... and like it's just like hair." "It's not a pretty place." "Except when you look from very far away." "This is where I grew up." "Every time we talk about some friend... that lived here... then we say "oh he died!"" "So many of them died." "They died from drug traffic... or they died from all kinds of stuff." "That used to be my room... when I was a kid." "Now it's just the guest room." "There was always a lot of humidity on the walls... because Sao Paolo is very rainy all the time." "I used to have my bed here... and there were all these stains." "I used to make a diary... of how the stains would develop." "This used to be a very rough neighborhood." "Now it's becoming sort of a low... low middle class neighborhood." "But it's safe... and people can live here decently." "I was never... ashamed of being poor." "And I was always proud of my parents." "I bought this lot in 1963, and I built this house with difficulty." "When I moved here it was dirt, there were no paved roads, nothing." "There was no running water, no sewage." "Thanks God, now it's the opposite." "Today we have everything we need." "We got here with some difficulty, but with dignity." "My grandmother brought me up... because my mother... had to work at the phone company." "And my father he worked at night... sometimes he worked two shifts." "This is Ana Rocha... the most important woman... in my life." "She is 93 years old." "I told them you were 70 years old." "That's right." "I'm getting stiff from lying in this position." "Artists have to suffer, don't you know?" "Who told you that, Vik?" "Honey, I just know." "I'm on the inside now." "Man, you're becoming an artist." "It's all Vik's fault." "Vik's made you conceited, Vik and Fabio." "That's what they keep saying at home." "It changed a lot of things for me." "I don't see myself I the trash anymore." "I really don't." "I don't know." "I don't want to go back to the garbage." "I don't." "I told Fabio:" "Just let me stay." "Even if I only get US$150 a month." "But please just let me stay here." "I don't want to go back to the garbage." "A little more in profile." "The sad story is that I lost my son when he was three years old." "I saw my son die when he was three years old." "I was at the hospital with him for three days." "I saw him dying." "Breathing his last breaths and everything." "He had acute pneumonia." "He was throwing up little pieces of his lungs." "They called me to identify my son's body." "It was on top of a stone." "It was wrapped in black plastic... with a big sign with his name, Carlos Igor." "I fell over, I fainted." "I couldn't believe that it was my son." "I asked them to take the plastic off because he was too hot." "After that my husband left me and he took my daughter away from me." "She's eight now, when my son died she was two." "I never saw her again." "Not since she was two." "I forgot my life, I forgot everything," "I forgot that I had a life, a house, everything." "I started going out all the time." "The only thing I didn't do was do drugs, thank God." "But I started going out and drinking and getting wasted." "I started drinking moonshine all the time." "My son was so beautiful, he was very beautiful." "I lost the last photograph I had of him." "It was in my wallet that was stolen." "But I don't forget anything." "I don't forget the tiniest details." "At the morgue, there was a little ant crawling on his face because of the flowers." "I made a scene to get that ant off my son's body." "I don't forget a single detail not a single, single one." " Come my dear." " Thank you." "I'll print a photograph for you." "No." "Isis, you're not supposed to cry." "Come here." "Thank you." " Did you like it?" " Yes." "Remember that first day at Jardim Gramacho?" "Did you think that that lunatic... with the camera was going to do something like this?" "Not in my wildest dreams." "I think we have to be careful... because I really can see already... how delicate the whole situation of having them there... is for them." "For their minds." "They totally forgot about Gramacho." "They don't want to go back." "At the beginning at least I had the impression... and now I think this is wrong... that they were happy there." "And I think that it has a lot to do with denial." "I think that is where you reach the point where you think about... should you take them to London?" "I think it's quite a..." "It's a super delicate question." "If you are starting to change them already... just bringing them to the other studio... just involving them in a different lifestyle... in Rio... what's going to happen to them once you take them... once you put them on a plane?" "You were saying oh this is going to mess with their minds." "Well, maybe... their minds need to be messed up with." "But if take them... and say hello life is different... you can do this, you could do that..." "Is it realistic enough..." "What can they do... with that afterwards here?" "It is really hard for me to imagine doing something... that would do much damage to them." "Do worse than what has been done to them already." "Why do you have to take somebody's life and change it forever?" "As long as you think the person can cope with it." "Afterwards." "But if you are not sure the person can deal with it..." "People are fragile." "It is my responsibility." "That's what I think." "Your responsibility." "But let me answer that." "Let me talk." "Let me answer that!" "You don't let me talk." "You're saying it is not my responsibility..." "He doesn't let me talk!" "I am saying it is." "Let me for one moment... think about something else here." "These guys are going to the studio... and they are saying..." ""I don't want to go back to Gramacho."" "Is that something bad one way or another?" "No that's good." "Isn't this good?" "Maybe they will have to go and they will have to think... of a plan to get out of there." "They get to see another reality." "And that changes their way of thinking." "It's hard for me." "It changes their way of thinking." "It does." "For some people it changes their way of thinking... for some people... they just go to bed better... because they think they did something." "I don't think if I was a catador in Jardim Gramacho... and somebody said to me listen do you want to come do this thing... work two weeks... in an artists studio... making a portrait of yourself... and by the way we may take you to a foreign country... but at the end of all of this... you'll be back here... collecting garbage... would you like to come?" "I know that I would say yes." "Got it." "A year of garbage has gone by." "Let's go." "Here's wisdom a plenty, nineteen is not twenty." "99 is not 100." "Hi Vik." "It's the Marat that's going?" "It's going to be great." "I'm already dreaming about being there." "I'm going to London, and you're not." "Hey what are you doing here man?" "Check out that long hair!" "There's so much excess." "There's so much excess that it becomes art." "Check out the garbage bag." "Except you can't open it, it's made of bronze." "Painted bronze." "Can you tell what's in there?" "There are definitely yogurt cups, hearts of palm." "Some boxes." "Looks like someone bought a new cell phone and threw away the box." " It looks like I could just pick it up." " It's great." "This was made by a British artist named Gavin Turk." "This guy is a really great artist too." "He used to sleep on the streets." "His name is Jean-Michel Basquiat." "This was done by the guy who is the most expensive living artist," "Damien Hirst." "It's a pharmacy." "Yeah, just drugs on a shelf." "Just drugs." "It will probably go for about one million dollars." "Dermatological cream." "It is a very fine work." "There is strong demand for works... by Vik Muniz." "So I do hope obviously that his risk... is going to pay off." "It's going to work out." "Let' see." "It's going to work, come on." "It's a very bold step... for Vik Muniz... to consign a work... directly to an auction." "In the past... artists would go through... what you call... the primary market." "They would be sold for the first time... in a gallery." "Thank you." "Lot number 225..." "Nine Multi-colored Marilyns... by Andy Warhol" "Are you nervous?" "I'm really nervous." "Even when Botafogo plays for the championship." "I don't get this nervous." "Hold on." "Last chance." "Sold." "What's your number?" "12... 5" "Thank you so much." "It's now, it's now." "Lot number 272." "The great work by Vik Muniz." "Mahrat Sebastião..." "Pictures of Garbage" "And we will start this... at ten thousand pounds." "10 thousand pound." "12 thousand pounds." "14 thousand pounds." "16 thousand pounds." "18 thousand pounds." "20 thousand pounds." "At the far back now." "20 thousand pounds." "20 thousand pounds 22 thousand pounds." "There is a new bit 25 thousand pounds." "25 thousand pounds." "Against you, Jenny." "At 25 thousand." "28 thousand pounds." "At 28 thousand." "It's against Diego now... at 28 thousand pounds." "It is at the far back of the room... at 28 thousand pounds." "Sold." "The most important thing is what you're going to do with this." "It was all worth it." "Everything I did up until now was really worth it." "Why do you think you are here?" "Because once a friend and I had a dream of creating an association." "We created the association." "It was a crazy dream." "Nobody believed in us." "Not even my family." "Nobody believed in me." "This is only the beginning Tião." "This is only the beginning." "I am so happy." "Are you happy?" "God was so good to me, so wonderful." "You're the strong one." "You are doing everything." "Mom." "We sold it mom." "We sold it for US$50,000." "US$50,000." "I feel like a pop star." "Full." "Yeah." "Now presenting Lenny Kravitz." "I want to propose a toast to my boss." " Thank you." " Thank you." "Careful." "This woman is red hot." "Tell me what's changed for you." "I was married and now I am separated." "But isn't that bad?" "Not at all." "It's wonderful." "I started to see myself." "Your own beauty?" "No as a person really." "Because before I was just like a little mule." "This job was great." "It was really good and important to me." "I knew how much I made." "We would weigh the material every day." "We supposedly worked together, but my share was always less." "He thought I should be submissive." "But it doesn't work like that." "That was the biggest change in my life." "That's what this job brought to me." "The will to change." "So that's the story, this work brought me this realization." "What did you think of modern art before you went to the auction?" "I used to think it was crap." "Why'd you think it was crap?" "Because I think a lot of things aren't really art." "Why don't you think it's art?" "Because you don't get it?" "Because I don't get it and it's totally meaningless." "But do you think you have to get it, for it to be art?" "I think it has to communicate something at least." "After you told me the story about..." "Jean-Michel." "Jean-Michel Basquiat." "Yeah, I started liking his stuff a lot more." "I began to understand his kind of sinister style." "It's a bit childish, like monsters." "I started to understand it and I liked it." "But if you're saying you liked it better after you understood it... then maybe we just don't like things we don't understand." "Of course, you can dislike something because you haven't tried it." "For example, you were always trying to explain what you were doing... but I never understood." "Until you saw it?" "I only understood it when Fabio brought me up here." "Then I got what you crazy people were up to." "Then I really got it." "The crazy people are the ones who buy it." "They're not crazy." "It's beautiful." "I'd buy it." "I'll buy it someday." "I'll buy my picture back." " Bye Betania." " Bye." "Hello." "You look like you're getting married." "Who would marry me?" "That's it." "Watch the glass." "Oh my God." "Look, it's me." "So good." "I did the iron, remember?" "I did this." "I did this." "Look it's Zumbi." "It's so beautiful." "Suelen." "It's so vibrant." "Look it's you." "Check out the profile." "It's beautiful." "Check out, Auntie." "I did this." " You made the pot." " I did this." "I was a picker at Jardim Gramacho." "I was picking garbage when they asked me to work with them." "They liked my look, my style." "At that point, I didn't even know what this was." "It's really worthwhile to work on behalf of the pickers... to become recognized as an official sector... of the recyclable materials industry." "And it's also worthwhile becoming a work of art." "We support ourselves with this material." "And we managed to transform that material into art... and into the opportunity to be in the Museum of Modern Art." "I've never been to a museum." "I never dreamed there would be a picture of me in a museum." "Sometimes we see ourselves as so small... but people out there see us as so big, so beautiful." "There she is." "You look so fancy." "Are you happy?" "Very happy." "Don't cry, Sister." "Now's the time to be happy." "I'd rather want everything and have nothing... than have everything and want nothing." "Because at least when you want something your life has a meaning, it's worthwhile." "From the moment you think you have everything you have to search for meaning in other things." "I spent half my life wanting everything and having nothing." "And now I have everything and I don't want anything." "These days I'm starting to see things in a simpler way." "I don't have as much material ambition as I used to." "When I was poor I only wanted material things." "I just wanted to have things." "I had to buy a lot of crap to get rid of that complex." "I knew that I could do the work." "Bt I did not count as being as involved... with the people that I was working with as I did." "It just was impossible not to." "I thought I could just go there... and paint Jardim Gramacho... like Cezanne went to paint..." "Monte Saint-Victoire." "You know be cool about it." "And try to just do my work... and look at it as a representation." "It's not." "It's a lot more than that." "Because it has it's human side... that a picture can not really translate." "It could be me." "I mean from the stories... these people tell... a lot of them they were low middle class people... that for some unfortunate event... they just ended up having to go there and live in the garbage." "I was born in a low... middle class house hold in Brazil." "If something had happened to my parents..." "I could be led to a life like that." "If you can put yourself in their own shoes... if your living life... and figuring out what to do to just continue living... it's very hard." "But on the other hand... when you see the appetite for life... these people have... and the way they carry themselves... it inspires you." "I start thinking about... how to help people and all of a sudden..." "I feel very arrogant." "Who am I to help anybody?" "Because in the end..." "I feel like I am being helped more than they are." "Even if everything went wrong... you could still be like them." "And they're beautiful." "They're great people." "They just weren't very lucky... but we're going to change that." "I can't believe it." "What's this, man?" "Hang this on these humble walls, this work of art?" "You can't even hang a picture right." "Check it out." "It's your dad." "That's it." "That's beautiful." "Right next to my mother-in-law." "Look who's it is." "Is it you?" "I have to get a nail." "I'm shaking." "It's so beautiful." "It's me, it's me." "I love it." "You have no idea what this means to me." "When I went to work there, I was too ashamed to tell anybody." "I tried to hide it from my family the best I could." "After I worked with Vik Muniz..." "I went to everybody and told them I worked at the landfill." "It was one of life's consequences." "And I was no longer ashamed." "This image has traveled all over." "To China, Japan." "I didn't go, but it did." "I'm famous out there." "When I saw it being made, it was very big." "Now it got smaller." "In the studio it looked huge." "See if it's good." "Here?" "Here?" "Don't scratch my picture." "The back doesn't matter." "You did a good job Vik." "Now you're famous in Santa Cruz." "They're talking about you here." " Did you do that?" " Yes, with everyone's help." "Remember that big pot I had?" "That's the one they used." "You know how I became famous all over the world?" "Inside the garbage." "I started there almost thirty years ago." "I like it there." "My life began there, thank God." "I'm famous worldwide because of that place." "That's where everything started for me." "He is President of the Association of Garbage Pickers of Jardim Gramacho." "And his portrait was a big success at an auction in London." "Tião Santos." "At what age did you start working?" "Since I was 11." " Since you were 11." "At the landfill?" " Yes, at the landfill." " Can I just correct you on one point?" " Of course." "We are not pickers of garbage, we are pickers of recyclable materials." "Garbage can't be reused, whereas recyclable materials can."