"PICTURE UP, B-ROLL" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Hey Dennis." "Dennis you're running this mother fucking show." "I'am going to quit halfway through the end unless I get another bottle of wine sitting by me." "Okay?" "WOMAN IN AUDIENCE:" "Dennis!" "Get him a bottle!" "For Christ's sake Dennis!" "a PICTURES FROM EARTH presentation" "STEVE RICHMOND:" "Bukowski was telling me if you're parents begin to like their work it's getting bad you know and if the cops are around something good must be happening." "And what you need is life." "Your work has to be alive and you've got to you know drink, write and fuck." "That was his advice." "MAN:" "And I heard him flick his bick and then I heard sssssss, like the singing of hair you know and I looked over and I could see him in the, he had this, the, the flame was up" "really high and he, and he went like ssss and then he went rrrrrrr." "BARBET SCHROEDER:" "He called me and said um you motherfucker." "You put something in my wine." "And I said no I didn't." "He said yes." "He said you put LSD in my wine because you want to fuck my wife." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Oh yeah the time he pulled this blade on the maitre'd at the Polo Lounge." "There was that." "JOHN MARTIN:" "And the cop says you know what are you doing?" "Stop." "And he said" "I'm going to throw the couch through the window and the cop drew his gun and he said no you're not." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "But they caught me in the bar in the old days." "He was a good duker." "And that's the ultimate compliment." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Finally I see him across the street from me and he's unzipped himself and he's taking his cock out and he's not waving it but he's, it's just dangling there and he's running up and down the street and people are screaming and horrified." "And finally they gather around him." "Call the police." "Call the, covering their children's eyes." "Call the police." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "The creative act is done at that goddamn machine right here." "See this fucking thing?" "That's where it's done." "LIZA WILLIAMS:" "He talks a lot about his sexual prowess." "He referred to his penis as his purple onion." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I saw him looking me and I ducked quickly forward ducking my head into the night." "Move quickly forward." "You never say duck and ducking." "That's the first thing you learn you know." "But I fucked it up because I'm drunk on wine." "BUKOWSKI BORN INTO THIS" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Forgive me." "You have my soul and I have your money." "B-ROLL" "INTERVIEWER:" "Why?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I'll tell you why." "All of the, sometime in my life this time might come a little bit." "Like guys marching in on me with cameras and all that shit." "Somehow I almost felt it and knew it." "And I was always going to crash it down and say f-, jam it up your ass." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "You know uh the young blondes with the tight pussies came too late." "The cameras came too late." "Don't grin at me like that." "It's true." "They came too late." "I'm too strong." "The gods have really put a good shield over me man." "They really have." "I've been toughened up at the right time and the right place." "They're still good to me." "B-ROLL" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "Once Ferlinghetti up in San Francisco invited Bukowski to go to San Francisco to read at the City" "Lights Poet's Theater." "I had never heard him read actually." "It was very interesting." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "We just met." "We started to develop a relationship and bang this thing happened." "So I said" "I'm going to travel." "Now I had this, this miniscule budget." "I decided to shoot in black and white." "LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI:" "City Lights in the last year has started presenting American poets who I believe are major writers in this country and at the moment like what else is happening be-, besides Bukowski?" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "We go up in the plane." "He's drinking scotch." "He got pretty drunk and a little silly." "And I was shooting the whole thing." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "No I'll be all right." "I'll be all right." "I'll be all right." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I wish I were more nervous." "You read better when you're a little nervous you know." "Really it's like you know before a fight or something." "You're nervous." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "He arrives in San Francisco for this reading at" "Ferlinghetti's Poet's Theater and my God it was like the second coming." "B-ROLL" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "We walked into this big gymnasium and there were bleachers set up and you know there were like six, seven hundred people there." "LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI:" "They're lining up around the corner." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Do you have a little pot on the stage I can vomit in?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI: [TALKING OVER] No" "I'm not kidding." "No cheap Italian wine man." "You guys really fucked me up." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "He was a little drunk and I think he was building himself up and I think he was a little scared." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I'm in great shape." "Down here." "LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI:" "Here we go." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Oh shit." "LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI:" "Ladies and gentlemen, Charles Bukowski." "B-ROLL" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "In the poetry readings he did in Los Angeles where there would be fifteen people, twenty people." "You know get thirty people it was a crowd." "And here we walked into hundreds and hundreds and it was a loud rowdy audience." "WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Do I know you?" "One more beer." "I'll take you all, all of you." "B-ROLL" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "And at the same time it was a certain electricity in the air." "But he didn't have to share the podium." "This was a Bukowski event." "B-ROLL" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "Bukowski was a fairly well known underground figure in Los Angeles at the time because he wrote a column at the L.A. Free Press called the Notes of a Dirty Old Man." "One week he wrote this article in there about going to San Francisco to read and having these uh punk asshole uh stupid filmmakers along and he was trying to kind of help them along and organizing this and that because these people" "bumble through and asking stupid questions and so on." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "It was quite an entertaining kind of funny piece." "So I read it and I, I, you know I saw him later and I said uh, I said hey, I said" "I read that article." "He says yeah baby what'd you think?" "I said well I thought it was full of shit man." "I said I, I, you forget I have the film." "You're the guy who's drunk on the plane making a fool out of yourself and you made me." "He says hey baby when I write" "I'm the hero of my shit." "And he says you got your film, you do your film." "B-ROLL born like this into this as the chalk faces smile as Mrs. Death laughs as political landscapes dissolve as the oily fish sit out their oily prey we are born like this, into this" "into hospitals which are so expensive that it's cheaper to die into lawyers who charge so much it's cheaper to plead guilty into a country where the jails are full and the madhouses closed into a place where the masses elevate fools into rich heroes" "born into this walking and living through this dying because of this castrated debauched disinherited because of this" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "The fingers reach toward an unresponsive god." "The fingers reach for the bottle, the pill, the powder." "We are born into the sorrowful deadliness." "There will be open and unpunished murder in the streets." "It will be guns and roving mobs." "Land will be useless." "Food will become a diminishing return." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Nuclear power will be taken over by the many." "Explosions will continually shake the earth." "Radiated men will eat the flesh of radiated men." "The rotting bodies of men and animals will stink in the dark wind." "And there will be the most beautiful silence never heard." "Born out of that, the sun hidden there, awaiting the next chapter." "B-ROLL" "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "His full name was Henry Charles Bukowski, Jr. and his father called him Henry with a very strong gruff voice so Hank was sort of the nickname for Henry." "And Charles, just Charles Bukowski and especially being a writer sounded a little better than Henry Bukowski." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI WIFE" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Shit I don't know if" "I can make this on just two bottles." "It may be a three bottle reading." "B-ROLL" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Liquor's like a symphony or like a classical song or something." "You don't use it as a downer." "You use it as to leap up into the sky when you're in pain or when you, you have this pressure." "B-ROLL" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I am a slugger." "Now if I start reading this poem." "MAN IN AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "And I hear this man's voice rising above the sound of my poem I'm going to go over to him and kick his living ass right out of the city physically." "I'm going to kick his ass right out of this goddamn hall." "So watch it man." "I'll take you like a motherfucker." "B-ROLL" "Hank when did you realize you were a writer that you had this talent?" "Nobody ever realizes they're a writer They only think they're a writer." "So when did you think you were a writer?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Well I was, I guess I was about uh thirteen years old." "Then I was covered with these boils and uh my first writing I did I had this notebook, you know for school." "I just found a pencil and I started writing." "and I filled this notebook full of words." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "And I guess that was the first time the mechanism had exposed itself." "And it felt pretty good sitting there writing in a notebook with the pencil." "And I wrote on and on" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "And it seemed ve-, a very easy, nice thing to do and it still remains an easy nice thing to do." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "I would say after that he was a writer." "That was it." "He was going to L.A. City College." "It's still there on Vermont." "And he walked into the journalism class." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I had two years of college but I didn't do anything." "I just laid on the lawn you know and missed classes and uh I couldn't get a job as a journalist." "They said fill out on an application and we'll let you know." "And it's a very hard job to get on a newspaper." "It's a very hard." "So it was not your decision that you didn't work as a journalist?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "No if they, I think if they had of hired me I would have been a journalist." "In a way I'm glad they didn't because what could I write about?" "B-ROLL" "In December, 1941 the U.S. became directly involved in World War II" "Bukowski was 21 years old" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Oh no." "How did you manage not to go there?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "The psychiatrist would not take me." "B-ROLL" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "He asked me do you believe in the war." "I said no." "Are you willing to, to go to the war?" "I said yes." "He said you're a very intelligent man uh you come to a party at my house next Wednesday night." "We're going to have artists, writers, painters, lawyers." "B-ROLL" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "We want you, I want you to come to my party next Wednesday night." "Will you come to my party?" "I said no." "He said okay you can go." "I said what do you mean I can go." "He said you don't have to go to the war." "I have to shoot a portrait now." "INTERVIEWER:" "Well let's get this picture out of the way." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "All right." "INTERVIEWER: [INAUDIBLE]." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Close together?" "B-ROLL" "What is your definition of sex?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Sex is something you can, you do when you can't sleep." "Who was your first woman?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Well that was the three hundred pound whore." "Jesus Christ." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I didn't have my first piece of ass until I was twenty- four years old." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Well I wasn't a pretty guy." "I didn't have any money." "I was a bum." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI: [TALKING OVER] Sorry you know." "Like I never went to the high school ball or nothing like that." "I was an outcast." "So I met this lady in a bar and uh she seemed to like me, first woman that ever liked me you know." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "She was big but she was a woman." "What the hell?" "And I was drunk and she was drunk." "We drank our beer and then I got into it." "So I worked and I worked and I worked and I worked because I wanted to prove I was a man you know the first time." "Boy I really tried." "I said boy if this is sex it sure is lousy." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "This is what they're talking about in the high school locker rooms?" "So I finally, I don't know if I made it." "I probably did." "But anyhow I woke up and we're both laying there and she's snoring on her back." "And I look over this huge beast is laying there." "And we'd broken the bed both legs and the butt." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "We were like on a hill." "The bed was down like that." "So then you know uh I rushed to my pants and my wallet was missing." "So I said you fucking whore you took my wallet." "She said no, no, no I didn't." "And I said get out of here you bitch." "I said I know that you've got up your cunt." "There's room up there." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I started to learn how to talk this way then." "And I tied up the legs." "I was tying up the legs of the bed." "I reached under there and I felt something on the rug." "It was my wallet." "I said oh that poor old girl." "I felt awful you know." "Forget the image." "I have a heart." "And I said oh shit." "She may not have been much but I used her wrongly." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "So right away I ran down to the bar where I'd met her." "Evidently she told the bartender." "And I walked in and I said listen is uh I forget her name, I said is Son-, is" "Marie here?" "He kind of said we can't serve you." "B-ROLL" "Bukowski spent parts of the early 1940s roaming the United States" "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "I think one of the reasons Bukowski wandered around the country was very simply a young man's need to see his country." "And I think the other reason was he wanted to delve at the life." "He needed experience." "And so he went, he bought a ticket on a trail ways and he went all the way to" "Florida, as far as he could go." "And he said to get as far away from my father as possible." "Probably that's true." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Then he headed back through New Orleans and he was in El" "Paso." "All through the forties he lived in one rooming house or one little cold water hotel room after another looking for that golden sentence, you know wanting to write that story that would put him up there in the charts." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I would get a common laborer's job somewhere for a week or two and then live in a cheap room and type." "Uh I used to live on one candy bar a day." "Cost a nickel." "I always remember the candy bar." "It was called" "Payday." "That was my Payday at five cents." "And that candy bar tasted so good." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I'd have it at night." "I'd take one bite and it was so beautiful." "I wrote four or five short stories a week during this time and I had them out everywhere." "They came bouncing back." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "He was looking for his art and he got rejections." "And basically what he was getting you're not enough." "Not you're not good." "You're not good enough." "And he heard it and he understood it." "Now at that point you can make a choice." "Oh well to hell with it." "Throw it out." "I'm going to go get a profession, do something." "Bukowski never did that." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I was laying in bed one night and I said I'll just quit." "To hell with it." "And another voice in me said don't quit." "Save a tiny little ember, a spark and never give them that spark because as long as you have that spark you can start the greatest fire again." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I was working at a lady's dress shop and they made me work two hours overtime." "I still kept the spark." "I said I will not quit." "I will not let them kill me." "So I'm walking out and uh two guys in the office smoking cigars." "Hey uh Bukowski come here a minute." "They were laughing at me and I knew they were laughing at me because I was just a slave and I'm standing there." "So I went home." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "It was a very long walk and I remember the trees were frozen." "It was a winter." "It was in" "St. Louis." "And the landlady had put these letters under my door." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "And I opened the one and it said we've accepted you're short story." "I said oh." "The fire I saved has a chance." "But the funniest thing is they took a bad story." "B-ROLL" "But out of hundreds of stories that" "Bukowski submitted, only a few were published" "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "The young writer growing up in the thirties and forties wanted to be in Harper's, Atlantic" "Monthly." "That's where Hemingway and Cerulean, that's where the heroes published." "JOYCE FANTE:" "I don't think it was quite the market for uh." "The main magazines during the forties were pretty much published by eastern intellectuals." "John Steinbeck had a, a hard time getting recognized." "Western writers just were not very much appreciated and, and uh recognized as they are today." "JOYCE FANTE WIFE OF AUTHOR JOHN FANTE" "By the late 1940s, Bukowski was back in Los Angeles to stay." "Here he met the woman who became his first girlfriend." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I was twenty-four, twenty-five." "She was around thirty- five." "And she just accepted me." "JOHN MARTIN:" "It was the first woman he ever really had a relationship with." "She was ten years older than he was." "She was born in 1910 and he was born in 1920." "DOM MUTO:" "Uh he seemed to be all alone except for this woman he lived with that he would refer to sometimes uh in a derogatory way, the way men refer to women." "DOM MUTO BUKOWSKI COWORKER" "DOM MUTO:" "Uh I saw her once and it fit his description of her, which was she had a fat ass and it was good to lean up against in the wintertime." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "She had beautiful legs." "Wore high heels." "Knew how to cross her legs with the skirt just so, kicking the heel like this and talking all kinds of shit you know." "DOM MUTO:" "Uh if you like them big." "You know?" "She did not, she did not have the good looks of a, of a, of sophistication or a classy woman." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "With beautiful legs you always figure even though you've only been there once or twice there might be something else up there besides a cunt." "You know?" "There might be something really marvelous this time." "It could be a cunt but it could be something about looking at the legs makes you dream." "Not saying there's anything wrong with a cunt but I'm saying you always imagine some extra magic when you're looking at the outside portion of a female." "JOHN MARTIN:" "She would just take off for a month and leave him and then come back only because she'd exhausted all those opportunities out there or was sick and tired of what was going there and would come back to him." "He was kind of like a home base only." "They didn't have a really domestic life together." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "It was continuous going into bars, getting into trouble, getting kicked out of rooms." "It was a tension that justâ€"" "HARRY DEAN STANTON V.O.:" "To find your lady already drunk, dirty dishes in the sink, the dog unfed, the flowers un watered, the bed unmade, the ashtrays full of punched out lipstick smeared cigarettes." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Those days were so long." "We were always drunk, getting kicked out." "It was like being in a war that never really ended." "HARRY DEAN STANTON:" "Oh you asshole." "What are you doing in there?" "Playing with yourself?" "You goddamned whore, what do you know about anything?" "Sit down on your dead ass and suck it at the vino." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "But there was a liveliness there because we both didn't care for shit you know." "HARRY DEAN STANTON V.O.:" "Don't hit me." "Don't hit me." "You'd hit me but you wouldn't hit a man." "Hell no I wouldn't hit a man." "Do you think I'm crazy?" "Hey where the hell are you going?" "I'm going to the fucking bar." "Not without me." "Not without me buster." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "And I thought" "I really had something." "I did." "I had lots of trouble." "HARRY DEAN STANTON V.O.:" "To get our stools, to sit before the long mirror, to tell the bartender vodka seven." "Everything was far away then." "The post office, the world, the past and the future." "HARRY DEAN STANTON:" "To have our drinks arrive to take the first hit in the dark bar." "Life couldn't get any better." "What's your definition of love?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Love?" "It's kind of like you know you see a fog in the morning when you wake up before the sun comes out?" "It's just that little while and then it burns away." "Really?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Yeah." "Quickly." "It's just, love is a fog that burns with the first daylight of reality." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Okay well this is the post office where I carried mail for two and a half years coming up." "That was a terrible place for me." "In April 1952, Hank took a job with the U.S. Post Office." "DOM MUTO:" "There was about four or five of us that were substitute carriers at the Oakwood station." "I think especially first impressions were bad with him." "The guy was, was uh didn't wear clothes well." "And he himself was big which could have been an asset but he carried himself like a big gallut you know." "DOM MUTO:" "And he had this heavy face with these heavy features that had to grow on you." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Here it is." "See what a?" "United States Post Office." "Two and a half years of hell, pure hell." "DOM MUTO:" "Oh he hated it but don't blame the job." "It was him." "He just hated rules and regulations." "He did as little as possible and he and the boss were enemies and at odds and the boss saw to it that he got all the dirty crap whenever he could dish it out to him." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I wasn't enthusiastic about my job as the others were." "In fact I hated it and I guess you could tell." "And how can you hate a good job for the United States government?" "Lifetime security." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "To the postmaster of Los Angeles, California, please accept my resignation as a regular carrier effective three eleven fifty-five." "I find this occupation is detrimental to my health." "I am bothered with ulcers and the pressure and demands of the job are aggravating my condition." "The post office had treated me well." "It is only that I must seek a more congenial occupation and I regret the severance, Henry C. Bukowski, Jr." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I had ulcers you know for a couple of years, very painful." "I ignored them." "I thought I was a tough guy and I, finally it just broke open." "The blood came out of my mouth and my ass and uh you'd be surprised how much blood there is in a person." "It keeps coming." "And it's purple." "Anyhow they took me to the" "County General Hospital and uh that was a rough trip." "B-ROLL" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "As I left the hospital a doctor told me you take one more drink and you're dead." "See doctors lie to you often." "I was supposed to die and uh I just didn't." "And it kind of felt like uh I had a free life, an extra life to work with." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "So I came out of there, got a job driving a truck, drank a lot of beer each night, bought a typewriter and, and uh just started typing." "Only this time it all came out poetry." "The prose had gone somewhere." "JOHN MARTIN:" "It's like the man who rose from the dead and he had a whole new life to live and he did." "I mean I think that's often the case with a near fatal illness in mid-life." "It sends someone off in an entirely rejuvenated direction." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "So I started writing hundreds of poems and sending them out." "You know poetry doesn't pay anything but it was just the form I needed to kind of a passionate, pleasurable selfish nice form where you could scream a little bit." "You know?" "I guess I needed to scream a little bit." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "All I can say is that while he was drinking all through the fifties and sixties he produced more poetry than almost any other person on the planet that I know of." "The discipline of sending those poems out because you get lazy." "You have to go to the stationary shop and get the hundred envelopes and you have to go to the post office and get, maybe the fact that he worked in the post office." "It takes an enormous amount of energy and he did it every day." "WILLIAM PACKARD:" "I was asking someone what Freud would have thought of the twentieth century and she said there's one thing Freud could not have foreseen, Walt Disney making everything cheap, everything nice." "WILLIAM PACKARD PUBLISHER NEW YORK QUARTERLY" "WILLIAM PACKARD:" "When I wrote something about Bukowski to try to justify why I was publishing him." "I said he's devoted to the de-Disneyfication of all of us." "Someone has to kick the Mickey Mouse out of our heads." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "He despised Mickey Mouse, especially his hands." "I think he has three fingers." "He could not handle the fact that the power uh over multi - millions of human beings was in the hands of this three fingered foolish creature that taught you nothing whatsoever, that expressed nothing real, total absurd fucking fantasy, not even good, not even creative." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI WIFE" "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "He was appalled by Mickey Mouse." "And I said well what about Walt Disney?" "He, he was a crazy sort of a guy." "He was eccentric." "He was a genius." "He was amazing." "He was a visionary." "He had all of these ideas." "And he said yeah but for what?" "Uh well" "I said to expand the uh imaginations and fantasies of little children." "Yeah to this three fingered son of a bitch who has no soul for Christ's sake." "Mickey Mouse doesn't have a fucking soul." "B-ROLL" "In June 1955, only a few months after leaving the Post Office, Bukowski tried to get rehired." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Dear sirs I was a regular carrier Oakwood Station with over three years service." "Last April I resigned from the service." "This letter is written in hopes that I may be reinstated as a substitute carrier." "I gave as my reason for resignation ill health." "NEELI CHERKOVSKY FRIEND AND BIOGRAPHER" "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "This I will state bluntly was an untruth." "I realize now that I was in the wrong and if I had only taken a little time to cool off and be objective I never would have handed in my resignation." "I hope to prove to you that I can be a carrier worthy of my salt." "Oh this is hilarious." "The guy's talking corny stuff." "Worthy of my salt." "The most un - corny guy in the world you know." "But I guess he's thinking of his audience." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "I promise that should you decide in my favor that you will never regret the decision." "Sincerely H." "Bukowski, Jr., Los Angeles." "You know it really reads like somebody who grew up in the depression frankly and who'd been through hard times." "B-ROLL" "Bukowski was finally rehired at the Post Office in 1958" "You spent twelve years in the post office?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Really about fifteen because I was a carrier for three years and then I stuck for twelve, eleven and half, stuck eleven." "But how could a man like you do that for such a long time?" "It's such a stupid work only doing thisâ€¦" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "All my work was stupid but it was at night, that's nights because I can't sleep nights anyhow." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "Of course really what he was doing was getting a place that could be his little cave to write in." "Once you get into a bureaucracy like the Post Office it's a womb and ultimately he may have hated it but it was a regular paycheck." "He knew he was going to get retirement." "It was the thing that he made work for himself." "He never really thought in his mind that he could live off his writing." "FRANCEYE:" "He was Bukowski the loner who never gets lonely." "When he was drunk he had to have some companionship." "And he found my letter and it had my phone number and that was why he called me." "He was very charismatic anyway but when he was drunk he was even more so." "FRANCEYE:" "And so it was like meeting a, an elemental force of some sort." "When I met him he was going to work at the post office at night and he would write every day before he went to work." "And so he didn't see me very often." "I had been having unprotected sex for two or three years, ever since I got divorced and I did not think that I was going to get pregnant." "FRANCEYE:" "So when I did get pregnant I think that it had to do with the change in my uh emotional um state because my reaction to Kennedy's assassination." "Anyway I did get pregnant." "So I decided" "I'll just talk to Hank and see what he wants to do." "So he suggested right off that we get married." "And he was kind of taken aback that I didn't want to get married." "I really loved him but I did not ever want to get married again." "In the 1960s businessman John Martin built an impressive collection of first edition books" "JOHN MARTIN:" "I collected everything in in American literature, Melville, Henry James, Whitman, Faulkner," "Scott Fitzgerald and then I was looking for that in post World War II writing." "And I found the Beats." "JOHN MARTIN:" "You know Ginsberg and, and Kerouac and then one day I picked up a copy of The Outsider and read Bukowski and all these people just faded into the background." "This is the first letter I wrote Bukowski in October 1965 just saying dear Bukowski boy are you a good poet." "I was not a publisher at that time and I had no idea that I would become one." "JOHN MARTIN:" "I was managing a large office supply and office furniture and office printing company in Los Angeles and the print shop was under my control." "And after I had talked to Bukowski and saw the material he had I decided" "I was going to do some broadsides of Bukowski." "A broadside is the most inexpensive and the least difficult way to publish anything." "You print one side of a piece of paper with usually one poem on it or one paragraph." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "The post office was a hard gig you know." "I'd work all night, you know eleven years clerking." "Then I had to write, get up and start drinking and writing, then go to work." "The same thing, get up, drink and write." "JOHN MARTIN:" "He really did suffer because first of all he was drinking too much and he, the fact that he might skip a day without writing was just a terror for him." "And then in addition there was a thing there at the post office called the scheme." "It was that you'd sit in a little Plexiglas box like a telephone booth." "And they'd give you a hundred pieces of mail and you have to throw at a certain percentage of accuracy within a given amount of time." "FRANCEYE:" "And that was a nightmare to him to imagine that he might fail the schemes and thus lose his job." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I couldn't lift my arms anymore." "They wouldn't lift up after a night's work." "So I said you either got to get out of there or die, go crazy." "MARINA BUKOWSKI:" "I was born on September 7th, 1964 and I just remember this little house in Los Angeles and Hank's typewriter." "FRANCEYE:" "Hank worked at night." "Marina didn't sleep in the daytime." "She didn't sleep at night either." "I was never getting any sleep." "I was dreadfully unhappy and looking back" "I was so sleep deprived that I was almost insane." "FRANCEYE:" "And Hank liked a happy woman in the house." "He likes you to be singing in the kitchen and so on." "FRANCEYE:" "Well we didn't really talk about this until one day he sat down and said well you're going to have to get out." "I'll pay your rent up to what I can afford." "And we didn't move very far away so that he could still see Marina." "I used to take her over to his place whenever I ran out of money for food." "I'd call him and say can we come over for dinner and we did." "MARINA BUKOWSKI:" "He would make steak and lima beans, which I loved of course because he made it." "I remember he liked to rest after he had a big meal and of course I was little, wanted to play." "So one of the things I liked to play was Batman and Robin, which went like this." "You be Batman Marina and you can do things and I'll be Robin because he doesn't do anything." "MARINA BUKOWSKI:" "And he would lie on the bed and just sort of snooze and I would jump on the bed and be Batman." "Certainly I knew my father was very different than anyone else's father." "My mom was very different too and our lives were different and all of our friends were different." "So maybe, maybe that led me to feel it was positive instead of feeling like I wanted to fit in with something that I couldn't fit in with." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI V.O.:" "The genius of the crowd." "There is enough treachery, hatred, violence, Absurdity in the average human Being To supply any given army on any given day." "AND The Best At Murder Are Those Who Preach Against It." "AND The Best At Hate" "Are Those Who Preach LOVE." "And the best at war - finally - are those who preach peace." "Beware The Average Man The Average Woman Beware Their LOVE" "Their Love Is Average, Seeks Average But There Is Genius In Their Hatred" "There's Enough Genius In Their Hatred To Kill You, To Kill Anybody." "Not Wanting Solitude Not Understanding" "Solitude They Will Attempt To Destroy Anything That Differs From Their Own" "Not Being Able To Create Art They Will Not Understand Art" "They Will Consider Their Failure As Creators Only As A Failure Of The World" "Not Being Able To Love Fully They Will" "BELIEVE Your Love Incomplete AND THEN THEY WILL HATE YOU" "And Their Hatred Will Be Perfect" "Like A Shining Diamond Like A knife Like A Mountain LIKE A TIGER LIKE hemlock." "Their Finest ART" "CONFESSIONS OF A MAN INSANE ENOUGH TO LIVE WITH BEASTS 1965 MIMEO PRESS" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "John Martin could see." "John Martin could feel the public out there." "2 BY BUKOWSKI 1968 BLACK SPARROW PRESS" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "After a certain number of books John Martin started to realize that there was going to be an audience for this writer." "POEMS WRITTEN BEFORE JUMPING OUT OF AN 8 STORY WINDOW 1968 POETRY XCHANGE" "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "And that Bukowski needed to focus himself full time." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "And Bukowski was very resistant to that." "If I go out there and lose my tenure at the post office and lose my gig and my ability to support myself and we fail where do I go?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "You see this man came by while I was still in the post office, John Martin, he publishes my stuff, the Black Sparrow." "He came by one night." "You see this man came by while I was still in the post office." "John Martin, he publishes my stuff." "The Black Sparrow." "He came by one night." "JOHN MARTIN:" "We sat down in his little dingy room and got out a piece of paper and we figured out what it costs him to live." "And he was putting down these amounts like three dollars and fifty cents a month for cigarettes and nineteen dollars for food." "As I remember this in uh mid-sixties." "Rent was eighty bucks." "Child support was fifteen." "And we came up with a hundred dollars." "JOHN MARTIN:" "And I said you could really get along on a hundred dollars a month?" "And he said yes." "So I said okay I'll give you twenty-five percent of my income for life whether this works or not but you've got to quit and write full time." "Very reckless." "I didn't tell my wife." "He says, â€œI'll give you a hundred dollars a month for the rest of your life whether you write anything or not." "That's pretty good, you know." "Well it gets the rent anyhow it may not get the child support but it gets the rent." "So that gave me some heart, you know?" "INTERVIEWER:" "But didn't you feel kind of odd like casting your fate with this guy with this hard drinking kind of wild man?" "JOHN MARTIN:" "No because that was all over ridden by the fact of who he really was, not the distorted part of him but what, what he really stood for." "And, and, and, and, and, and what made him important." "I mean I, the first time" "I read him I said my God this is today's Whitman." "This is a man of the street writing for the people in the street." "And when you get an opportunity where, whether you're a banker or a, or a holdup man you go for it." "JOHN MARTIN:" "And there was Bukowski and I thought if this guy will commit his future work to me that'll start me off." "I said to him at the end of uh 1969 I know you're a poet and that's what I'm planning to publish and that's why" "I'm starting Black Sparrow Press to publish your poetry but if you ever could write a novel that would be really great because novels sell a lot better than books of poetry." "JOHN MARTIN:" "But never thinking that he could and would." "So he started work for me at one hundred dollars a month on" "January 2nd, 1970." "And he called me around the twenty-fifth of January and said in kind of a low-key way come and pick it up." "I said well pick up what?" "And he said my novel." "You said to write a novel" "And I said how, how could you write a novel in three or four weeks?" "And he said fear." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "He hated the pastoral beginnings." "It was a beautiful land, rugged, ever snow capped mountains in the distance and Tom Haney came along in his old jalopy." "You know that, that oh my God Bukowski would say." "Why, why did I start with crap like that?" "That isn't real." "And so how does post office begin?" "What was the first line?" "It began as a mistake." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "I mean what a great opening." "Then, then the reader thinks well what began as a mistake?" "My life you know as a postal worker for twelve years and here's the story." "What did he finally do?" "For all the pain, for all the trouble of working there he brings us a humorous novel." "DOM MUTO:" "My name is Dom Muto right." "He changed it to Tom which is legitimate," "Moto which is Japanese." "I mean didn't he, didn't he realize that st-," "[LAUGHS]." "No slur against the Japanese." "It's, it's a, you know it's a wonderful name either way but where's his creativity?" "He could have called me Graziano or something you know." "INTERVIEWER:" "Was the book accurate?" "DOM MUTO:" "The book was accurate." "TOM WAITS:" "You know my dad spend a lot of time in the bars so I was drawn to, to places like that dark places." "My dad drank in the afternoon in really dark bars." "And um so I, I guess that's how it began and of course it's much more than that." "But, but uh the place that I hooked into him was the fact that he was um, seemed to be a writer with common people and street people and looking in the corners of, the dark corners where" "no one seems to want to go and certainly not write about." "TOM WAITS:" "And um so yeah he seemed like the, he was the writer for the dispossessed and he really didn't have a voice." "JOHN MARTIN:" "I sold that collection to the University of California, Santa Barbara, for fifty thousand dollars." "They were all first edition." "This is back in the mid-sixties and fifty thousand dollars is fifty thousand dollars." "And that's what I started with." "And by the, after about two years or three years because I wasn't working," "I had no other income, I got down to five hundred dollars." "And I thought well it's back to work." "This has been a great run but it's over." "JOHN MARTIN:" "And then that week for the first time more money came in then went out." "And at that point Bukowski and I were on our way." "B-ROLL" "In 1975, Bukowski published his second novel." "The protagonist Henry Chinaski drifts from town to town drinking, fighting and working numerous blue-collar jobs" "CARL WEISSNER:" "Anybody feeling the ups and downs in a capital society feels good reading about a guy who's actually preaching the refusal to work." "But what [INAUDIBLE] preaches is the refusal to work not the negation of the Protestant work ethic but you know as a fundamental wrongness of it all, the incredible waste of a life dictated by others." "CARL WEISSNER FRIEND and GERMAN TRANSLATOR" "STEVE RICHMOND:" "He was a magic man." "I saw him shrink once actually." "Steve Richmond FRIEND, POET" "STEVE RICHMOND:" "He, I was at uh," "Linda King had a party and she invited me and I should, I probably shouldn't have gone because he didn't invite me." "Linda King was ferociously flirting with every man there, it was very awkward, kind of silly." "LINDA KING ARTIST, GIRLFRIEND" "STEVE RICHMOND:" "So at the end of the party there's like eight or nine people left and I'm next to the door and then out of nowhere he's, he's at the door, there's eight or nine of us and he just" "started this rage." "He's about six foot, five eleven, six foot and I was watching him and I didn't understand any of his words but it was a volcano erupting." "And everybody's kind of st-, stuck in place." "And he started, I'm looking at him." "And he started to reduce, reduce in size and height proportionally I swear to God." "STEVE RICHMOND:" "I sw-, I believe in" "God." "I swear to God he was two and a half feet tall." "As uh, as I see my hand now you know I saw him do it and I just didn't want to, I didn't want him to get big again so I turned around and went right out the front door." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I was with my girlfriend and she had her foot up there." "I was going in circles in the street, stopping, starting, stunting." "Her heel did that when she's bracing herself." "She thought we were going to die but we didn't." "It's a nice design." "I like it." "The car's beginning to look like me." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "You know I used to think a long time ago I was too ugly for women but I found out women are very strong people." "If you have something good to give them you know like your feelings women are strong." "They, they don't care if you have one arm or five fingers missing or your nose blown off." "If you justâ€"" "No such luck" "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Women was the book that Hank was writing, was it, when I met him." "Yes as a matter of fact because he was doing um what he called research." "It started out with a woman who he had been with for a long time," "Linda King and uh he was sort of breaking up with her." "LINDA KING ARTIST, GIRLFRIEND" "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "When he got a little bit of notoriety women started coming to him and he had the opportunity to sort of take his pick and just sort of have experiences and uh like a child almost." "He was discovering this whole world of women in a way that he hadn't." "And then he was involved with this other one named Cupcakes O'Brien." "PAM MIILLER:" "I thought of him more as a friend." "He was to me more of a father figure and I didn't take the relationship that seriously." "I can't say that I ever was in love with him." "He would sing to me occasionally the song that went uh, and to this day" "I don't know that I've ever heard it." "I don't know if it's a real song or if it was one he just made up." "But uh it goes something like uh" "[SINGS] mean to me, why must you be so mean to me." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI: [SINGS] Mean to me." "How can you be mean to me?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Oh how you can you be mean." "JOHN MARTIN:" "So yeah he was crazy about her and she had him at her beck and call." "In other words she didn't care." "She could go off for a week and not even think about him and he would just agonize the whole week." "You know that one poem about the confused old man driving around in the rain." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Is it, is that Cupcake?" "No." "B-ROLL" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Oh all right." "Go ahead." "You are waiting for her, yeah?" "No?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "No." "She, she'll be mad for a week." "B-ROLL" "JOHN MARTIN:" "I remember once going over to his place on Carlton Way and there was a beat up old couch on the porch in front and here's these two absolutely untouched beautiful blonde" "Dutch girls waiting for him to come home." "And they wanted to know where he was." "I said well I guess he's at the track but I'm meeting him at five o'clock and they said oh we want to see Bukowski." "I said well what do you want to see him for?" "She said oh to fuck him." "While reading your book, âWomenâ, one could get the impression that for you a woman is nothing more than a behind and a pair of tits." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Oh come on." "You read it and thats all you got?" "You didnt even get the parts where I," "I cried in bed because tears came to my face because Im, I invited two women to have Thanksgiving me and uh I didnt know which one to go to." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I mean no there are many moments in there where I look like a complete asshole and I felt like one." "No, no I, I was just an, I just wasnt jumping into bed and fucking and jumping out of bed." "Im sorry." "It would be nice for me to say that and pretend Im a tough guy but Im not that tough." "But in your stories, love is always a synonym for sexual intercourse." "Thats not too romantic is it?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Where do you get this crap baby?" "Love is a dog from hell." "Thats all." "It has its own agonies." "It brings its own agonies with it." "But I mean I dont know where you get your concepts from man." "Youre really fucked up." "SEAN PENN:" "You know I remember that there was a moment where he and I talked about it in the sense that uh accusations of misogyny." "SEAN PENN ACTOR, DIRECTOR SEAN PEAN:" "Uh he said it really simply." "You know everybody whos read it knows that on a percentage basis uh I treat men worse every time." "You know?" "And uh, uh and, and in essence he does because so, so much is autobiographical and its about making mistakes in a messy world." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Oh this is called uh The Shower." "We liked to shower afterwards." "I liked the water hotter than she and her face is always soft and peaceful and shell wash me first, spread the soap over my balls, lift the balls, squeeze them, then wash the cock." "Hey this thing is still hard." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Then get all the hair down there, the belly, the back, the neck, the legs." "I grin, grin, grin and then I wash her." "Another kiss and she gets out first toweling, sometimes singing while I stay in, turn the water on hotter, feeling the good times of loves miracle." "Linda you brought it to me." "Sorry." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "When you take it away, do it slowly and easily." "Make it as if I were dying in my sleep instead of in my life, amen." "See?" "Im getting this way, sentimental." "Shit." "Sorry." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Thats the one that" "I split with after five years." "Its not a very good reading." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Linda." "I read you the wrong poem." "Shit." "Getting softer and softer kid." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "And during that time I met him at a poetry reading in L.A. at the Troubadour but he was still doing all this research with women so I had no intention of becoming a girlfriend or anything." "So we just sort of evolved a friendship and I was somebody hed always call on the phone and hed talk to me about all these other women and then it just got more and more involved and the women uh came in and out and went through his life" "and finally he uh, his research was complete." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "And I ended up there." "They were all gone." "He got rid of them." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "When they started coming around I said now Im going to catch up on all that I havent had you see." "One night I was in bed with six different women in a, in a row." "I felt, God I must be something." "But I wasnt you know." "I was just catching up on my own background." "So finally I got ashamed of what I was doing and I stopped." "But I got a novel out of it anyhow." "Yeah." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Fair to middle and hows yours?" "What about that cross over there on the mirror?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "That, well thats Germany." "I was born there see." "This reminds me." "You know what kind of cross it is?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Not really." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Iron cross." "JOHN MARTIN:" "He had published little fragments in magazines and in, and little chapbooks about his early life and I really wanted him to write a, a novel about his life from the time he was born basically until he graduated from high school." "BUKOWSKI AND HIS MOTHER CIRCA 1923" "INTERVIEWER:" "What about this book that youre writing now?" "The book on childhood." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Three quarters finished." "Its a horror story and uh its been harder to write than theothers but Ive tried to put in some likeness and some humor so we wont really feel the other grimness of uh my childhood." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "When he finally got to the point where he could write about his childhood I think that was a cathartic experience for him." "I mean it was a struggle for him to write it and it took many years for him to get, even get to that point to be able to get, get back in there and re-, relive it" "somewhat by typing it out and remembering certain terrible things." "And uh but I think by doing that it really um, it, it relinquished him from a lot of, of those terrors and those terrible experiences." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Bukowskis grandfather came from Germany and somehow ended up in Pasadena," "California where apparently he was a building contractor." "And he had several children, one of whom of course was" "Henry Bukowski senior who was a doughboy and went back to Germany as an American soldier and in the little town of Anderknock en Rein met Bukowskis mother." "They get together and Hank is conceived and born." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "And they stay in Anderknock for a couple of years then come to the U.S. back to Los Angeles and Bukowskis father was a milk deliveryman for a while, had a lot of odd jobs." "They didnt have a lot of money but they had a pretty nice place on Longwood Avenue finally, at least by the Depression years." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Twenty-one, Twenty- two Longwood Avenue." "The house of horrors." "The house of agony." "The house where I was almost done in but not quite done." "Im still here you see." "Uh this is the lawn that I manicured." "I had to mow it both ways." "This way first then this way." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "And I had to get all the hairs with the sheers." "If I missed one hair I got a beating, one hair." "Its very hard not to miss one hair." "Try it some time." "So I always got a beating." "The old man had a razor strap he used to hang here and hed just take it off, drop your pants and your shorts." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I would stand about here and he would begin." "And I dont know how many lashes hed give me but theyd be hard, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen." "Of course you cant help screaming especially when youre six years old, seven years old." "As I got around to be about ten or eleven or twelve I screamed less." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Instead I, last beating I got I didnt scream at all." "I just didnt make a sound." "And I guess that terrorized him because that was the last one when I didnt make a sound." "So its just a terrible place to stand and talk about it." "I really dont want to talk about it too much." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "He was cruel man." "He beat me and beat me." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "She, she was German and her expression was while he was beating me your father is always right." "Thats all there was to it." "I guess he was right now and then but I figure about eighty-six percent of the time he was wrong as hell." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Hanks fathers values were probably normal American values." "Theres nothing evil about him at that level." "Beating a child was evil." "Theres the evil part." "On the other hand that was the tradition." "People did it all through the centuries." "If you go back to Leviticus if your son speaks against you youre able to kill him." "So weve come a long way since then you know." "Its not like Henry Bukowski was alone in the beating of the son." "BUKOWSKI PAINTING OF HIS FATHER" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "And sometimes I feel it happening to me you know when Im arguing with a woman or something I feel kind of shitty and crappy and Im not quite just and sometimes I sense my fathers blood in me," "the chicken shit blood that Ive got in me." "Its a bad feeling." "BEVERLY KNOX:" "This is a picture of Hank from his high school graduation and this is a picture thats been touched up as you can see." "His face was really quite pock marked." "It was very noticeable." "He wasnt interested in having his picture taken." "BEVERLY KNOX:" "He made sure that he was never in any of the pictures that the kids took." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "We all know what acne is but acne vulgaris is sort of a, an exaggerated form of that ailment and he had to go all the way across town to a doctor." "They would stick into all of these horrible huge puss filled things on his face and on his neck and all over his back, his arms and chest." "BUKOWSKIS HIGH SCHOOL ROTC PHOTO, 1939" "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "It finally manifests physically when youre put down like that continually over years and years, physically, emotionally, mentally in every way." "JOHN MARTIN:" "You know that wonderful chapter in Ham on Rye where hes standing outside his senior prom too disfigured to go in and too ashamed disfigured to go in and he had wrapped toilet paper around his head and then punched eye holes." "And the bleeding acne had come, was starting to come through the toilet paper and he just stood there and watched all of the other children graduating from high school and having a wonderful time while he stood out there in the dark." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I was on some fucking bus with a girlfriend and here came a guy walking toward us looking for a back seat." "His scars were deeper than mine and you know want to know something?" "I was jealous." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Yeah." "I said Jesus." "I said did you see him?" "She said yes I did." "I said oh shit." "What a beautiful man he was." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Hank actually stayed with his parents quite a long time for a guy who was brutalized." "I have some photos in 1944 and theres Bukowski with his mother and father in the back yard of the house on Longwood." "The three of them are standing together getting a photo." "So he may have hated them in a certain way but he always returned to the nest." "Why do you drive such a long way to the laundry?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Because other laundries use soap that make you itch and all that." "So this is the best laundry in town thats all." "B-ROLL" "BONO:" "Too much, too little, too fast, too thin or nobody." "Strangers with faces like the backs of thumb tacks." "Armies running through streets of blood waving wine bottles." "Bayoneting and fucking virgins." "Or an old guy in a cheap room with a photograph of Marilyn Monroe." "BONO:" "There is a loneliness in this world so great but you can see it in the slow movement in the hands of a clock." "People so tired, mutilated either by love or by no love." "People are just not good to each other one on one." "The rich are not good to the rich." "The poor are not good to the poor." "Were afraid." "Our educational system tells us that we can all be big ass winners." "BONO:" "It hasnt told us about the gutters or the suicides or the terror of one person aching in one place alone." "The beads will swing." "The clouds will cloud and the killer will behead a child like taking a bite out of an ice cream cone." "Too much." "Too little." "Too fast." "Too thin." "Or nobody." "BONO:" "More haters than lovers." "People are not good to each other." "Perhaps if they were our deaths would not be so sad." "Meanwhile I look at young girls skin, flowers of chance." "There must be a way." "Surely there must be a way weve not yet thought of." "Who put this brain inside of me?" "It cries." "It demands." "It says theres a chance." "It will not say no." "B-ROLL" "By 1978, Bukowski was ready to leave the courtyards and apartments of East Hollywood" "He and Linda bought a house in San Pedro, California." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "As Linda, the second Linda, came into his life she hung in there and he knew that she really cared about him and she was there to stay." "She could hold her own with, with a lot of Bukowskis uh you know wild friends but ultimately she had a certain focus and I give her a lot of credit for saving his life." "I mean at a certain point you know she got him out of East Hollywood." "They bought a place down in San Pedro." "Its a great part of Los Angeles." "Not people really know about." "And you know probably added about ten years to Bukowskis life." "TAYLOR HACKFORD:" "Basically it allowed him a different part of his life." "He continued to write and he continued to get more and more famous." "TOM WAITS:" "He wrote through it all and as he became more popular and became more successful and famous really he wrote about that." "So he took you all the way from flophouses to San Pedro and where hes living in a nice house with you know neighbors who play golf and uh you know a nice car and uh so he, he took you, he let you, he let you go with him on a journey which was really great for me." "TOM WAITS MUSICIAN" "TOM WAITS:" "And thats something" "I looked up to, to take you uh down the path with him." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Barbe Schroeder didnt have enough money to make Barfly the film yet and so he decided to get some professional people and do a documentary on Hank, sort of interviewing him over a period of several months coming over here" "on weekends for hours after hour after hour and sitting inside and outside." "And one night he was interviewing Hank and it had been a long day and Hank had had three or four, five or six bottles of wine and he was getting a little belligerent." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Ive always been used because Im a good guy." "And women when they meet me they say I can use this son of a bitch." "I can push him around." "Hes an easygoing guy." "So they do it." "Do you know finally I get to resent it a bit?" "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "What do you resent?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Just being pushed." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Pushed?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Yeah." "Just being pushed." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Why do you let yourself be pushed by this kind of shit you idiot?" "Why do you allow yourself to be pushed by this sort of thing?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Ive told you a thousand times to leave." "You wont leave." "I told you Im going to get an attorney to tell you to leave." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI: [TALKING OVER] Wait a minute." "a minute. anything to do with it." "That, that doesnt have anything to do with it." "Why do you continually allow yourself to be pushed?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Because Im kind hearted." "I give the other person another chance." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Mmm hmm." "Ive given you dozens of chances." "But you keep pushing and pushing." "And you keep laughing at me." "Thats why Im going to tell you Im getting an attorney." "Im going to get your ass moved out of here." "She thinks I dont have the guts." "She thinks I cant live without her." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I can move your ass out of here so bright and so fast with a Jewish attorney." "Youre going to feel like your ass is skinned." "You think youre the last woman on earth that I can get." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Yeah well you better start thinking." "Im turning you over to the next." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Next guy." "He can have you." "I wont be the least bit jealous." "If your [INAUDIBLE] the bullshit all your goddamn stay out every night bullshit." "I dont need the kind of woman you are." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Night after night going out what good are you?" "Im going to get my Jewish lawyer out of you, out, on you and hes going to get you out of this house." "Get out." "And I mean it was just mortifying." "And he, the camera was rolling" "I mean they had a perfect thing going there." "This is pretty exciting." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Why are you so offended by me doing something else?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Because I live with a woman or she lives with me she doesnt live with other people?" "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "I do live with other people and Im going to for the rest of my life." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "I know." "Im going to turn you over to them." "You see?" "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI: [TALKING OVER] No, no, no, no." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Fuck, shit." "You fucking cunt." "You think you walk out on me every fucking night." "You fucking whore." "You bitch." "Who do you think you, I am?" "Just Im going to do this, sleep with other people." "You fucking shit." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "[SIMULTANEOUS CONVERSATION] I didnt." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Thats when I got my guts." "I never took it again." "Never." "The next time he tried that I said you son of a bitch you can, you can scream your ass off at, at the clouds in the sky and at yourself but youre not going to do it to me." "Im not going to take it anymore." "And Id just get up, walk up the stairs and Id listen to him ranting and raving down here at nobody." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Sometimes itd go on for about thirty minutes." "And just, just screaming out." "B-ROLL" "In 1987, shooting began on âBarflyâ, directed by Barbet Schroeder" "BARBET SCHROEDER:" "Mickey Rourke, he didnt like the idea of rehearsal." "Faye Dunaway she was ready to rehearse as much as possible and I wanted to rehearse because when youre on a tight schedule like that m-, much better if youre rehearsed." "BARBET SCHROEDER DIRECTOR OF âBARFLYâ" "BARBET SCHROEDER:" "But uh no." "So we had to do uh without it and I guess he wanted to stay fresh." "LIZA WILLIAMS:" "Well how could Mickey Rourke portray Hank?" "Its an impossibility." "Why didnt they get some old duffer?" "They wanted" "Mickey Rourke to be uh Humphrey Bogart and pick up girls in the bar." "Hank wasnt like that really." "I remember there was some really beautiful girls in there which werent at all the kind of girls that Hank went after." "LIZA WILLIAMS COLUMNIST, GIRLFRIEND" "LIZA WILLIAMS:" "He went after people who were slightly damaged." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "He really over did it." "You know the hair hanging down and" "I dont think the kids ever been on skid row you know." "When the guy walks in and he says oh Ive been missed." "I should run for mayor." "He didnt get it right because Id walk in and Id say oh Ive been missed." "I guess I should run for mayor." "See you dont brag it." "Its low key all the time." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "He had it all kind of exaggerated, untrue, a little bit show off about it." "So uh no it was kind of mis-done." "Hanks experience making âBarflyâ inspired him to write another novel." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "And I found out that" "Hollywood is more crooked and dumber, crueler, stupider than all the books" "Ive read about it." "They didnt go deeply enough into how it lacks art and soul and heart." "How its really a piece of crap." "There are too many hands directing." "There are too many fingers in the pot and theyre all kind of ignorant about what theyre doing." "Theyre greedy and theyre vicious." "They dont get much of a movie." "BONO:" "I never got to meet him while I was reading him." "It was only later after a really drunken night with Sean Penn back in my house in Dublin talking uh stupid rhymes really." "BONO FAN" "SEAN PENN:" "And he found out that he was a great fan of Hanks and I said you know I said that he was a friend of mine." "So he, he said no, no." "I said yeah." "SEAN PENN FRIEND" "BONO:" "He was reciting you know some of Hanks verse and, and, and me back to him and he got up, excused himself to make a phone call." "SEAN PENN:" "And he says hey kid hell, where the hell are you?" "I said well Im over here in Ireland and Im with Bono." "And he says uh you know not." "I said ask Linda." "He says whos Bono." "BONO:" "It turns out that Hanks old lady had been to every U2 show uh since we came, since we were like kids like a garage band." "Shed been to every one of them." "Shed been to more U2 shows than Id been to." "SEAN PENN:" "And then hes back on saying you know if you guys play out here we want to come." "Well sure enough." "BONO:" "Invited him down, invited the two of them down when we next played Los" "Angeles, not ever thinking that he would come." "But they did come." "SEAN PENN:" "And he was fascinating to him that the world had come to, you know this wasnt a political rally." "This was musicians on stage and this many people and this kind of fandom and this, all of a sudden in the middle of the show uh he says, he comes to the microphone and he says this is for Charles and Linda Bukowski." "BONO:" "And I think we got to the old fucker uh because uh you know he," "I think we might have moved him a little bit." "SEAN PENN:" "The crowd went crazy." "They knew who he was." "And he was taken off guard." "You know uh he really was and he got emotional I think and he and Linda danced to the song together." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Bukowski was fortunate enough to see in his own lifetime his own work be translated into I dont know, God knows how many languages to make him more than a comfortable living and to go out in you" "know thirty or forty printings." "And you know thats a very rare thing for a poet." "If he hadnt made any money and yet he had been able to do all the writing that would have been enough for him." "Im absolutely convinced of that." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "And he would have worked in a candy store if he had to or shining shoes or he would have stayed at the post office and retired on some piddly ass little thing." "CARL WEISSNER:" "Im afraid I have to agree with John William Corrington and the prediction that he made in what 1962." "CARL WEISSNER FRIEND and GERMAN TRANSLATOR" "CARL WEISSNER:" "He was totally right." "He said by the end of the century Bukowski will be known as the guy who has liberated poetry from the clutches of the academics and did what Wordsworth was attempting to do and what" "[INAUDIBLE] actually did." "You know this is the company that he put him in sixty - two and nobody had heard of him." "Are you afraid of death?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "No." "How old would you like to be?" "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "Its not a matter of how old you can become, how long you can go having all your moxy." "So I cant answer that." "Because I think my life is dwindling now." "You know I went to the track today." "I came back from the track." "I looked down and I had on one black shoe and one brown shoe." "CHARLES BUKOWSKI:" "So I said even though I won two hundred and twelve dollars betting on horses I looked down and I said the light is dwindling old boy." "B-ROLL" "In 1988, Hank contracted tuberculosis" "He lost 60 pounds." "He drank no alcohol for several months." "After recovering, he rarely engaged in heavy drinking again." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "He continued to lessen the amount of alcohol intake over the years even though he, that meant he had to be less than his myth." "I think he found a kind of confidence in himself of course when he became successful." "And that took away a lot of the um psychological pressure that had been on him for so many years." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "He didnt need to react so much." "He knew that he was a cause of goodness and that he could be a cause of goodness and um I dont think he felt that way about himself in the past, in his early years or in his mid years even." "TOM WAITS:" "And by the time he got to The Last Night of the Earth Poems hes really a wise man and a very thoughtful man and, and was not afraid to be vulnerable." "He was uh turning the, the ball around in front of you and let you see as many sides as he could see himself." "JOHN MARTIN:" "Theres a thing called the new formulism and theres a little group of people called the new formalists and they want to go back to sonnets and you know poetry at its most structured." "And to me thats exactly the wrong way poetry should be headed." "Oh this is a little New Years reading that we did called Art." "JOHN MARTIN:" "And its one of his greatest poems." "Its just one word above the other." "JOHN MARTIN:" "As the spirit wanes the form appears." "As an artist or a poet or anybody loses his spirit, that first brought them into whatever they do, as that wanes they do get more concerned with form and trying to cover up the fact that theyre not writing as well anymore by writing formal work." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Pulp dedicated to bad writing." "Thats just is the Bukowski story right there." "Not that he wrote badly but that he took chances." "That was an older mans novel and yet its so filled with a younger mans inventiveness and suppleness." "Hollywood got in L.A. lets say from this way and Pulp got in L.A. this way." "Right?" "And Ham and Rye got in L.A. this way." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Think about it." "And then the short story came on L.A. that way and then the poems rushed down the freeway this way." "You know it was that ruined landscape of Los Angeles that he wrote about." "Pulp of course is a pure fantasy." "It isnt the real life Bukowski." "So a fantasy though its the life of the mind was something that was always on his mind." "The man was dying." "He was nearing the end of his life and he writes about lady death." "NEELI CHERKOVSKI:" "Thats how he dealt with his dying, to make art out of it." "In March 1993, Bukowski was diagnosed with leukemia" "He battled the disease for a year." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "It had been a long haul and it was coming to the end and he was in and out of consciousness in the room at the hospital." "We were just sitting there with him not, just whispering gently a little bit and just being around him." "And uh I was sort of sitting a few feet by, towards his feet and his head was in front of me." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "And, and I had been looking over on the other side of his bed to Marina his daughter and, and uh I glanced at Hank and there were um, he was emitting from his mouth um little puffs like puh, puh, just gentle" "little puffs." "And I instantly realized that these were his last breaths." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "I knew that that was what was happening then and in a, in a matter of several seconds I suppose well I got up to him to come to his face and hold him and um that happened a few more moments." "And then he left and um â¦ at that moment his face became s-, absolutely transparent and serene." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "Every, every wrinkly scar or tension, everything completely relaxed and there was an utter tranquility that existed and permeated everything at that point." "And it was so gentle and so pure and um â¦ he had a smooth face like a newborn baby." "LINDA LEE BUKOWSKI:" "It was just so smooth and soft like that." "HARRY DEAN STANTON:" "Theres a bluebird in my heart that wants to get out but Im too tough for him." "I say stay in there." "Im not going to let anybody see you." "Theres a bluebird in my heart that wants to get out but I pour whiskey on him and inhale cigarette smoke and the whores and the bartenders and the grocery clerks never know that hes in there." "HARRY DEAN STANTON:" "Theres a bluebird in my heart that wants to get out." "But Im too tough for him." "I say stay down." "Do you want to mess me up?" "Do you want to screw up the works?" "Do you want to blow my book sales in Europe?" "Theres a bluebird in my heart that wants to get out." "But Im too clever." "I only let him out at night sometimes when everybodys asleep." "I say I know youre there so dont be sad." "Then I put him back but hes singing a little in there." "HARRY DEAN STANTON:" "I havent quite let him die." "And we sleep together like that with our secret pact." "And its nice enough to make a man weep but I dont weep." "Do you?" "B-ROLL" "THE END"