"Tonight on "fact or faked:" "Paranormal files"..." "Ben:" "I've never seen anything like th before." "Oh, my goodness!" "Oh!" "What is it doing?" "Mark:" "I happened to look up," "And I saw a little black dot up there." "Unleash night crawler." "What the heck is happening?" "Oh, my god, that's incredible!" "Can you see anything in the air right now?" "Camera three just fell over." "We're on the way." "There's definitely something weird going on out here." "You know what?" "I just heard something." "There's something moving." "Larry:" "I don't want to be worried," "But I'm starting to get there." "Oh, my goodness!" "There's a flying saucer." "I'm getting a series of lights right there." "Oh, my god!" "What the heck is that?" "Hello, hello." "Hey, what's up, ben?" "Hey, there, ben." "What's going on, guys?" "Good." "You guys ready to watch some videos?" "Always." "Man:" "Of course we are." "We'll start out with what I've got for you today." "For the first time ever," "We have two ufos caught on video crashing into one another." "It happened in israel." "This guy had seen one ufo." "Splitting into two and sometimes three," "So he decides to take out his video camera," "And this is what he captures." "Okay, you see this object here." "And you'll see something moving from left to right." "Wow." "And then you see kind of a ball." "Larry:" "Definitely an explosion." "Yeah." "That's not necessarily a collision," "But these things are just joining again." "Ben:" "That is a possible theory." "You know, lately, they've been talking a lot." "About these kind of organic-type ufos." "It's a process of mitosis." "Cellular division, one cell becomes two," "And what's to say that it just wasn't reverse mitosis?" "You know, it's in israel, the middle east." "There's a lot of war going on right there." "Who's to say that this wasn't a plane." "And that wasn't a missile shooting it down?" "Chi-lan:" "Right, cawhuse oren they collide," "There's a big burst of light," "And then they go vertically down." "Gravity pulls it down." "Did they go out and look for any debris after the crash?" "In fact, they went out the very next day," "But investigators found no wreckage whatsoever." "What do you guys think about it being faked or being real?" "I'd say it's an actual event that's occurring," "So that's a fact." "But -- we're not being hoaxed." "You think it's worth going out?" "I think we should pass with this one." "I'd pass on this one." "All right." "Let's move on." "Jael:" "Okay, guys." "This is a ghost case coming all the way from new york." "There was an older woman." "Her name is rose benvenuto." "And she got into a horrific accident." "She literally walked away from the car accident." "With no scratches." "Untouched, completely fine." "Later on, there was a photographer." "Her name is sharon boo." "And she had taken several pictures of the wreckage." "Wow." "This is the photograph." "And she..." "Bill:" "She walked away?" "That's her car?" "Man:" "That is..." "Unbelievable." "... Destroyed." "One of the photographs came out very curiously." "There was an image of a figure." "Now, this woman rose swears that this was her guardian angel." "Ooh." "Wow." "It looks more angelic." "It does look angelic." "This is shot on film, not digitally?" "It's a photograph." "And the odd thing is that it also came out in the negative," "Which is really hard to fake." "Larry:" "You don't think it could be a refraction of light, though?" "I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be hoax," "But is there some other reason." "On why that light's coming off like that?" "Well, chi-lan, you know a bit about photography, right?" "Yes." "Could a light like that actually appear in the negative?" "It definitely can." "A lot of photographers have actually overexposed their negatives." "To get an effect like that." "You know, I'd almost want to not even investigate." "And let myself believe that's what happened." "I feel like I've had guardian angels or powers that be." "Save my life numerous times," "Only I wish I had a photo like that to prove it." "So, who thinks we should maybe look at this a little bit later?" "I think that we could investigate it a little further," "But for now, we can set it aside." "And see what else we have to look at." "Ben:" "Okay." "Let's move on." "So, bill, tell me about your case today." "Well, this particular video's been making the rounds." "At some of the paranormal conferences," "And it's gotten really popular." "This was recorded in fresno in 2007." "Let me cue it up, because I think it speaks for itself." "All right." "There's a creature coming the top left of the screen." "Chi-lan:" "What is that?" "I don't know what it is." "But it's not like any of the other cryptoids," "Or bigfoot, or anything else we've seen before." "Larry:" "Look, you can almost see the little legs at the bottom." "Yeah." "And you can see its shadow as well." "Very long." "Notice that it has a head." "I've never seen anything like this before." "It's really -- it's weird." "I don't know what else to call it." "Now, what's this one coming in here?" "Jael:" "Oh, my goodness!" "What's it doing?" "Anatomically speaking, I've never seen anything." "That looks like either of these figures before." "Ben:" "No, I've never seen anything like it." "Where was it walking toward?" "Bill:" "I don't know where it was walking towards," "But, you know, in response to what you're saying, too," "I forwarded a copy of this clip to animal control in fresno." "They have never seen anything like this," "And nothing else has been reported like it in the area." "The reason why he set up the camera." "Is because there were dogs barking in the area," "And so he thought maybe." "There was burglars or prowlers coming through." "So he put a surveillance camera up." "When he woke up, he saw it on his camera," "Rewound the vhs vcr," "And taped it right off the screen." "Now, unfortunately, these, like, surveillance vcrs." "Will re-record over themselves," "So what was recorded on the camcorder." "Is the only footage that exists." "The gentleman who recorded it is now reaching out." "To the paranormal community for help." "Larry:" "I like it." "I think it's like nothing we've ever done before." "I think this could be a contender for us." "I agree." "We've got very compelling video." "We have a credible witness." "Plus, we've got an actual physical, tangible location." "We can do a lot of experiments with." "Why don't we see what else we have?" "Let's keep it on the list of contenders." "Okay." "Austin, I think you got something." "Austin:" "I got in contact." "With a gentleman named mark preston." "He was with his family on the 4th of July weekend." "This happened in 2009." "They're in the backyard, just having a barbecue." "They look up." "They see this object." "Austin, where was this shot?" "Lake havasu, arizona." "A lot of activity in that area." "Oh, it's been a hotbed of activity." "All right." "Let's take a look." "Man:" "Let's see if I can get it on camera." "Woman:" "Can you zoom yours?" "All right, there it is." "I got it on camera." "Man #2:" "Oh, my god." "There's a cloud." "And there's a flying saucer." "It's literally saucer-shaped," "With a disc and then a little globe in the center." "Well, the way it's shining, it looks metallic." "Okay, and one thing I really like about this." "Is I truly feel their reactions are genuine." "Chi-lan:" "They're trying to figure out what it is." "What's interesting to me, too," "Is that it looks like it has hard edges." "It's metallic." "It's reflecting the sunlight." "Ben:" "It's not often that you get such a sharp image." "With high reflectivity like this has." "Man:" "Wow." "Look at that." "Ben:" "What do you guys think?" "Do you think we have enough to go on in this one?" "I think there's a lot to go for there." "I do feel that we have so many things." "Weighing for us in this case, I would love to go check it out." "I think that we should keep this on the list of contenders." "Well, chi-lan, it's your turn." "Woman:" "I'm looking for it." "Do you see it?" "All right, so I have a video that was sent in from a family." "They put it online." "It has over 4 million hits, and it's a ghost video." "Now, the underwood family went to gettysburg, pennsylvania," "For a vacation." "They were just hanging out at night, and this is what they shot." "Take a look." "Woman:" "Movement, right?" "Look here." "Can you see it?" "Man:" "Uh-huh." "Look." "Right there on the left." "Man:" "Mm-hmm." "Are you seeing that as well?" "Yeah, yeah." "Right there." "Gettysburg, pennsylvania, especially in this area " "This is called triangular field," "And more than 50,000 soldiers died." "While going in the civil war here." "So a lot of people actually saw this video." "And thought that these are the ghosts of the soldiers." "The shadow figure or ghost." "Is following the same trajectory every time." "It's that same movement, same place." "It just keeps moving right there." "Exactly." "And I feel like if it was a free spirit." "Or whatever you would call it," "You wouldn't just keep seeing it doing this." "In the exact same position." "It kind of looked like lights to me," "Like sort of headlights." "And there are some paved roads out there." "That tourists drive on." "So, how does everyone feel about this case?" "Is there enough there that we can try and replicate it," "Or do we need more information?" "It's not at the top of my list," "But I would consider it maybe later." "Yeah, I agree with austin." "Ben:" "Well, if it's not at the top of our list right now," "Which cases that we've seen today." "Do you think make the top three?" "I really like night crawlers." "I'm really liking havasu." "I think you guys know which one I liked " "The ghost car angel." "It's a very compelling story." "However, I'm a little worried." "That there's not much there to investigate." "Yeah." "All we have is a picture." "We don't have any video to go by." "I like havasu, too." "Havasu sounds like fun." "It seems like we could do some really good stuff out there." "Bill:" "Good eyewitness." "Good video." "Ben:" "Fresno and havasu is what I'm hearing." "I think we have our two cases." "Bill, what do you say." "That you take larry and jael with you to fresno?" "Night crawlers!" "And I will go with austin and chi-lan," "And we'll go to havasu." "Okay?" "Let's go get ready." "Narrator:" "Coming up on "fact or faked:" "Paranormal files"..." "He heard his dogs barking." "He came out." "That's when he saw the two beings." "There's something moving, bill." "Bill:" "It's more than one." "I see it right there, right above the cloud line." "You catch a shimmering back and forth." "Us." "Bill:" "Well, this particular video's been making the rounds." "At the paranormal conferences." "I got in contact with a gentleman named mark preston." "He was with his family." "They see this object." "I think we have our two cases." "We're on the way to fresno now to meet jose," "Who was the witness." "That recorded the night crawlers in his yard." "We're fortunate that we have jael with us," "Because she speaks fluent spanish," "And jose speaks very little english." "She's gonna be our translator." "[ knock on door ]" "Hey." "Hey." "Mucho gusto." "Larry." "Jael: [ speaking spanish ]" "Jose." "[ speaking spanish ]" "It was about 12:00 a." "M. When it happened." "[ speaking spanish ]" "He heard his dogs barking." "He came out to look at the area and scan." "[ speaking spanish ]" "He didn't see anything, and he ran back inside." "That's when he saw the two beings on the video." "Can he show us where he thinks." "They may have entered and exited the yard?" "So, the gate was closed?" "The gate was closed." "Wow, that's very, very thin." "No." "Can't see it actually come through." "It's too dark." "Well, we're gonna try to help in any way we can." "Larry:" "If it is a hoax," "I have no idea how he created it." "And that's what we're gonna try to simulate tonight." "We're gonna put our own camera up in the corner." "Where it originally was and try to re-create the video." "I think all the important landmarks in this front yard." "Are hitting just about the spots." "They are on the original video." "One of the most popular theories about the night crawler case." "Is that it was a hoax." "A lot of people believe that maybe it was a kid." "Dressed like one of these creatures." "In order to put this theory to rest," "We're gonna do just that." "I've enlisted the help of a neighborhood child." "We're gonna dress him up like a night crawler." "And have him walk across the lawn." "In the same path that the creature did." "We're marking the path." "That we observed the figure in the video move." "So, we'll walk here." "Here on this path?" "Yeah." "That looks really good." "I want you to kick out your feet like this." "Perfect." "No way that a small child like that's." "Gonna be able to walk a perfect bee-line like this creature is." "You ready, dominic?" "Initiate the alien's walk." "Okay, there he is." "What with dominic we're seeing here." "Is not what we're seeing over here in jose's video." "This is obviously a person," "And I don't know what that is, but that's not a child." "You did a great job." "Thank you very much." "Let's move on to a new experiment " "This time, something more mechanical." "I've got a mechanical night crawler." "What I've done here is." "Connected a couple of turntables to some electric motors." "This will spin this way," "And a leg will come up, and then it sort of drops back." "Jael:" "Good job, bill." "Thank you." "Bill:" "The idea is that there's a puppet," "That perhaps it was moved across the yard." "With, like, a pulley system." "We're gonna put it on the rig." "We're gonna pull the puppet across the yard," "And hopefully, we'll have more success with this experiment." "Than we did with the first one." "This is looking pretty taut." "This looks really good." "Yeah, once we have it in motion, that's the real test here." "I'm gonna go ahead and power up night crawler." "And we are ready, set, go whenever you are." "And I'm gonna begin to pull." "It's moving easy enough." "Larry:" "Gosh, look at that thing." "Jael:" "It's just so wobbly." "It definitely has a sloppy motion..." "Compared to that graceful movement, the gait." "How did at l wook?" "I don't think we've got our night crawler." "What didn't match?" "It did not have the same motion." "That the creature in jose's video had." "Okay, let's set back up and perhaps put a cover on it." "And see how that works." "Copy that." "Let's give it a shot." "Okay, so the second creature," "It's got almost like a covering on its body." "So I've got this." "I'm gonna put it over its head." "Larry:" "I'm interested to see how it's gonna look." "Once we put a sheet over it." "You won't see those legs." "You won't see that head." "If you guys are ready," "I'm gonna go ahead and power it up." "Copy that." "We're ready to go." "Okay, the legs are in motion, and I'll begin the pulley." "Larry:" "I think we've upgraded quite a bit." "I mean, look at the fabric." "And how it's blowing on the legs." "It's similar to the original video." "It's still swaying." "And really inconsistent in the way it's moving." "Hey, guys, how'd that look?" "That's actually a lot better." "The only thing that's not matching up." "Is just that there's this side-to-side sway." "That the creature in the video we saw did not have." "What I could do is actually just take it off that cable," "Off the pulley system." "I attach that puppet to a stick." "And walk it across, very carefully, the lawn." "I think that will solve our stability issue." "And we have access to great editing software." "Back at the office." "And it'll be like you were never there." "Exactly." "I think that's a great idea." "Bill:" "Okay, you're in position." "Go ahead and start walking across the yard." "Ohh!" "It's still kind of rocking this way." "It's pivoting when it touches the ground." "It's still too difficult, bill." "I don't think that this is a puppet." "That we're seeing on these videos." "I don't think we'll know for certain." "Until we get it into the edit room." "And try to remove larry from the video." "I say we try and find out if maybe this could be something." "That's alive that's living in this area." "Bill:" "Something's unexplainable in this video." "And if it wasn't a hoax," "It's quite possible these creatures may be nearby." "Just north of here is an expansive wooded area." "We're gonna pack up and head over there now." "Jael:" "Maybe this could be something." "That's alive that's living in this area." "Bill:" "Just north of here is an expansive wooded area." "It's quite possible these creatures may be nearby." "Larry:" "Why don't you go ahead and make a horseshoe shape." "With the cameras around this plateau we're on?" "We can get one over here, two, three, and four." "Sounds good." "I'll get started with this one." "I got a box of tapes here," "And I got two more boxes of tapes here." "So we're set up for hours." "Do you see my camera setup yet?" "We can't see anything on our end." "We're trying to hook up the other power source." "Apparently the one we have has some problems." "I think we've got the -- [ static ]" "Hang on." "[ static ]" "Can you read me?" "Copy, larry." "I'm gonna need a new battery for the walkie, actually." "[ beeping ]" "There's some weird stuff going on tonight." "I went through 2 walkie batteries in 10 minutes." "We have a battery that usually feeds all our cameras." "That didn't turn on." "There's definitely something weird going on out here." "Larry:" "All right, it's up and ready to go." "This area really shouldn't have anything." "That's gonna be interfering with our gear." "At least not that I know of." "We're gonna see if there's a source we haven't documented." "That's causing all of our equipment to fail." "We're gonna do an emf sweep." "And try to get baseline readings." "And if there's buried conduit that we don't know about," "That's not documented," "Then we're gonna use the metal detector." "To see if we can pick up that pipe." "Jael:" "We'll see you in a bit." "All right." "Here it is." "Still no change in the meter reading." "We're still looking at the perimeter," "And we're still investigating the tree line." "You know what's kind of odd?" "What?" "My metal detector went out." "It went out?" "Yeah." "This had a new battery in it." "Are you serious?" "Yeah." "Yeah." "This thing's out now, too." "Bill:" "My walkie-talkie died." "The I.R. Monitors won't power up." "And now my metal detector won't work." "Something in this area." "Is definitely causing electronics to fail." "I don't know what it is." "Maybe it's the creatures in the area." "That jose reported." "That's somehow causing our equipment to malfunction." "Well, looks like no change in readings." "Did you guys hear that?" "I do hear that." "Larry, do you hear that?" "It's like a high... [ yipping ]" "Let's go over there." "Run." "Larry:" "Hey, guys." "Do you happen to be next to camera four?" "No, why?" "What's the issue with camera four?" "Camera four just went out." "I'm not sure why." "I didn't know if maybe you guys were close to it." "And maybe you bumped the cord or something." "Bill:" "You know what?" "I think we should be looking for something that's organic." "We should break out the thermal camera," "And we should see if we can spot something." "That's alive and breathing." "It just came back." "I'm not sure if it's something that's touching it." "I can't see anything with it right now." "I didn't see anything before it went out." "So I'm not sure what it is." "Here's your thermal imager." "Great." "Monitor four just went out again." "Again?" "Yeah." "It just went out right now." "Camera four just went out again." "You know what?" "I'm just heading out there right now." "Keep me up to date with the radio." "That's really interesting." "We were all here." "I mean, they were right here," "And for some reason, camera four just went out." "Okay, there it is." "I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary." "Um, something just fell in front of our " "Camera three just fell over completely." "You said by three now?" "Yeah, our whole camera three just fell over." "We're on the way." "What the heck is happening?" "I don't see anything, but camera three is down." "I don't want to be worried, but I'm starting to get there." "Bill:" "You know what?" "I just heard something in the trees beyond it." "So, larry, I'm not sure if you can see it." "There's something in that tree line over there." "I see you." "I see where you're pointing." "I'll " " I don't see anything." "There's something moving through those trees over there." "Jael:" "There's something moving." "There's something moving now." "Look, look, look!" "Actually, it's more than one." "It's more than one." "Here's your thermal imager." "Jael:" "Great." "There's something moving through those trees over there." "Look, look, look!" "Actually, it's more than one." "It's more than one." "It looks like it's moving somewhere from the tree." "U know what it looks like?" "They're gone." "They're gone." "I'm gonna head over there." "This is where they must have gone." "Look at this." "Something has been walking this path," "And it's going right to the water hole." "There was some sort of disturbance." "It looks like it's, you know," "Like something was treading through here." "Jael:" "It's close to 5:00 a." "M. At this point." "We've been here all night." "I'm not quite sure what else we could do." "Well, I mean, I'm with you." "I don't know if we can accomplish anything else." "While we're out here." "I think we should take the evidence we've gathered so far," "And we should pack it up for the night." "Larry:" "My gosh." "You guys were out there forever." "Well, a lot was going on." "Yeah, I know." "I could see it, I could hear it, I could feel it." "There's so much that was going on just right here." "I can't even imagine." "What was going on out there with you guys." "It felt like we were the ones being toyed with," "And we were the ones that were being targeted," "Not the other way around." "There was definitely some movement back there," "So we have a lot of tape to review." "I say we pack up and go." "Most definitely." "Let's get out of here." "Agreed." "Ben:" "That was a long trip, huh?" "Jael:" "Yeah." "So, fresno team, tell me about your investigation." "Well, it started off with a really good witness interview." "Jose, the homeowner." "Did jose seem like a credible witness to you?" "Most certainly." "He was a great witness." "I was able to run voice analysis on this interview," "And I want you guys to see the results." "Ben, if you could cue that up for me." "All right." "Jose: [ speaking spanish ]" "All right, he says he heard his dogs barking." "He went, looked out his window, didn't see anything." "This whole interview is just full of truth." "There is some stress," "There is excitement through this interview." "But as we were interviewing him, he was literally shaking." "What he thinks he saw, he doesn't know what it is," "And it does scare him to death." "So you don't think that this could have been a hoax at all." "If it was, he wasn't in on it." "Well, if it's not paranormal, and it is a hoax," "Then somebody must have pulled it on jose." "So we put that to the test," "And we came up with a couple of ideas." "On how we could replicate the video." "So one of them, the simplest one," "Was that it was simply a child walking across the yard." "And even though we found a kid that was about the right heigh." "It was simply too big." "So, next was like, maybe it was a puppet." "So we built a mechanized puppet," "And we moved it on a pulley system across the yard." "The problem with using the pulley system is." "That the puppet tends to bounce." "Because of the length of the rope." "Then we moved on to maybe larry can sort of walk." "The mechanized puppet across the yard on a pole." "So we did that," "And then I removed larry's image in the edit bay." "As you can see, despite our best efforts," "We really weren't able to replicate the video." "Jael:" "And after we tried all three experiments." "And we still couldn't get an answer," "We decided to do a night investigation." "And that's when things really started to get strange." "Within an hour, my walkie batteries died," "And then our cameras started to go out." "We had our thermal camera with us." "And we turned it on," "And here's what we got on camera." "Once we saw these in the thermal camera," "We realized we're looking at two creatures." "Maybe they were deer." "We did follow them as far as we could." "It ended up leading to a small natural lake," "And that's where we lost sight of them." "It could be some sort of indigenous creature." "That we still haven't discovered." "Based on the apparent truthfulness." "Of our witness, jose," "And based on the fact." "We have something unidentified moving out there," "We can't say right now that we know this was faked." "You weren't able to prove the video was hoaxed," "So I say this is unexplainable." "Great job, guys." "Tell us about havasu." "Well, as you know," "Chi-lan and austin and I went to lake havasu." "After watching mark preston's footage of a flying saucer." "That was filmed over his house July 4th of 2009." "Now, mr." "Preston was very perplexed at what he saw." "So we went out to havasu, and this is what happened." "Chi-lan:" "This lake is beautiful." "Austin:" "It's also one of the number-one locations." "For ufo sightings in all of arizona." "There were eight sightings that we recorded in 2008." "In 2009, there were 22 sightings," "And that's a triple jump right there in numbers." "How you doing?" "I'm ben." "Nice to meet you." "We'd like to check out where you shot this thing." "Ben:" "Now, what were you guys doing before you started filming?" "Kind of take us through." "Exactly what was going on that afternoon." "We were just getting ready to barbecue back here," "Just kind of chatting." "And I happened to look up at the sky," "And I saw a little black dot up there in the cloud." "Kind of afraid to say the word "flying saucer,"" "'cause it was like a perfect one, I'm thinking." "Michele:" "We were saying the same thing." "So, it was kind of " "Is that really what we're seeing?" "What part of the sky did you first see it?" "It was just probably straight up there," "Probably about 4,000 feet up, through the telephone wires." "And where did you last see it?" "About 20 minutes later," "It was up around up in the front of the house." "It had gone all the way around by the mountains." "And was probably up about 6,000 feet, I'd say." "And that's when you see the commercial jet flying over." "There goes a jet right by it." "This was the camera that I used on it." "Do you think it's okay if I take that camera." "And conduct some experiments with it?" "Sure." "I think we can set up the glass right about here." "Perfect." "Ben:" "Even though I believe mark and his family." "Are telling the truth," "We have to fulfill our due diligence." "And look at this from all angles." "Our first experiment is going to be a reflection test." "What we're doing right now is getting the frame built." "I'm glad you guys are doing this," "Because I barely passed wood shop." "We need to angle it so that we are perpendicular." "Right to where he was looking out." "And what we're gonna do is take an object similar to the ufo." "And try to reflect it off of a pane of glass." "Just set it down a little bit." "Perfect." "That's it." "There it is." "What we're gonna do with the shadow box." "Is put this flying saucer in the middle of it." "And then take a searchlight to shine against the saucer," "Which will reflect back towards the pane of glass." "We're taking mark's exact camera here," "The one that he used." "That's perfect." "Austin:" "Do you see that?" "Grab it." "Can you record that?" "I see it right there, right above the cloud line." "You can see the cloud line." "It's right above it." "You catch a shimmering back and forth." "Where are you guys seeing it?" "See the long cloud?" "The plane where it looks like a table top?" "Right above it." "It's going real small." "You can barely see it." "It's floating away." "I saw a little black dot up there in the clouds." "Austin:" "I see it right there." "Right above the cloud line." "Where are you guys seeing it?" "While setting up our experiment." "And as we're looking up in the sky," "I just caught an object floating." "Can't really tell exactly what it is." "I'm not seeing anything." "Are you zoomed up?" "Yeah, see if you can find it." "Zoom it up as close as possible." "Oh, I'm almost losing it." "Ben:" "Describe what -- it was white?" "It looked like it was floating with the wind projections," "Is honestly what it looked like it was doing." "Just being pulled along." "It was almost like a square shape," "And it just kind of came up along the ridgeline of the cloud." "And just took off and kind of disappeared fairly quickly." "Let's keep our eyes open." "And let's get back to finishing this." "Yeah." "So, we're using the actual camera." "That mark preston used to film this object." "We're trying to replicate it as best as we can." "We have this pane-glass window." "We're going to take our ufo object," "Hang it in the middle here," "And shine a light towards the object," "Which will in turn reflect it back towards the window." "Ben:" "So why don't you bring in the object?" "Start back here." "Start bringing it up." "I will hit it with this." "Now, I am not actually on camera." "I'm not seeing anything of any type of reflection yet." "Austin:" "I don't think that it's dark enough." "Or these lights are strong enough." "The only time you see it is." "As soon as you get it into the sunlight." "In the actual video, you can tell that the object is " "It's straight solid." "This is so transparent." "We're not able to make it look solid," "Nor anything like the video." "When the prestons shot this video," "They actually saw that ufo." "That doesn't mean it was a ufo." "It still could have been a balloon." "Or an object just floating in the sky," "For all we know as of right now." "But I do definitely agree it was not this." "And it is very apparent we are dealing with a ufo." "It's either an extraterrestrial unidentified flying object." "Or an unbelievably fake object." "The most important thing I grabbed out of this is." "The fact I truly believe the prestons now." "It was not a hoax coming from their end." "It could have still been a hoax from somebody else," "Possibly a balloon or something in the sky." "But we are gonna do a couple more experiments." "To see if there was another possible explanation." "If this was a hoax," "It had to be launched from somewhere down by the lake." "So I say we go down there and we launch something up in the air for ourselves." "Chi-lan:" "It looks like where the prestons saw the ufo." "Is on the southern end of the havasu state park." "And it's actually a safe area." "Where we can launch something into the sky as well." "I'll stay back here with mark's camera," "And I'll try to set something up." "That looks similar to how he was filming." "And we'll try to get the thing up between 1,000 and 3,000 feet." "We ready to go?" "Yeah." "All right." "Austin:" "We secured an open parking lot." "Which is right below where the actual sightings were seen." "We're gonna set up a big balloon." "We're gonna launch it off in the sky." "To see if we can simulate the actual event that occurred." "So we can hook up this balloon." "To a hopefully heavy enough object so we don't float away." "Chi-lan:" "Now, these balloons." "Are really easily found on the internet." "These aren't very expensive." "Just a couple hundred dollars." "Hey, ben." "We're really excited over here." "This balloon is getting airborne." "Ben:" "Excellent." "Let me know when you've got the balloon to a sufficient height." "So I can start looking for it." "The wind down here for how this balloon is already pulling," "It's gonna go crazy up there." "Hey, chi-lan," "The wind is really starting to pick up up here." "How is it down where you guys are?" "I'm getting a reading." "Of 5 to 10 miles an hour of wind down here." "Didn't mr." "Preston say." "That that was what the conditions were on his day?" "I believe that's true." "We're working on a situation with this plane overhead." "That could be a problem." "We've got to get ahold of somebody at the airport." "To alert the banner tower who's overhead over our area," "Because we obviously don't want him." "To run into a ufo he didn't expect to be there." "I just want to make sure." "That someone who's manning the unit comm radios." "Can advise this banner tower." "That we're gonna be working probably right in his altitude." "I just called the lake havasu city airport." "It doesn't look like." "We're gonna be able to get that plane to move." "So we can't launch the balloon as high as we originally wanted." "We can still put it up in the air." "And see what we get." "One, two, three!" "Oh, all right." "All right." "That was good, though." "That was good." "It wanted to take off." "Well, you can tell that the wind is blowing this down," "And because it is so huge -- it's 20 feet " "And the wind is pushing it down." "Austin:" "Why don't we go ahead and get the rope set up." "So we can actually let it " "See how high we can get the thing going." "Austin:" "We had it tethered to the car." "So we could make sure it's inflated." "And it's gonna take flight." "Now that we know it wants to take off," "We're gonna go ahead and attach a 1,000-foot nylon rope to it." "And see how high we can get it up in the sky." "Chi-lan for ben." "Yes, go ahead, chi-lan." "Ben, we're gonna launch the balloon right now." "Copy that." "I will begin rolling." "Let it go, austin." "Whoo!" "Oh, my god, that's incredible!" "It is going!" "It looks so great!" "It's flying so far above that, and I love the movement." "It looks just like the video that mark preston shot." "The way that it's floating and turning." "Ben, are you catching anything right now?" "I see something." "We have the object in sight." "Now, using mark preston's camera," "I'm at full zoom," "And it looks almost exactly about the same size." "He was looking at when he was at full zoom." "I'm quite impressed that the reflection of the surface." "Is really similar to the video." "It almost looks like" "I'm looking at a solid, rigid, metallic surface." "Hey, guys." "It was pretty good." "I mean, it was really good." "From where I was, I set it up as the original video," "And it looked like it had the same reflectivity." "It was getting kind of the same tumbling as the original object." "It wasn't as rigid as the other object," "But I think we're getting really close." "Chi-lan:" "Our balloon experiment was pretty convincing." "But we still need to find a witness." "Who saw that it was a ufo and saw that it was a balloon." "Lake havasu during July 4th weekend," "There are tens of thousands of visitors," "So there had to be at least one witness." "Who also saw the ufo." "So austin and I are gonna canvass the area," "And ben's gonna go ahead and call some city departments." "Hopefully, between both of our efforts," "We will find something out." "A family in lake havasu." "Actually saw a flying saucer in the area." "Did you see anything like that last year?" "I didn't, no." "Not me, no." "Ben:" "Parks and recreation." "Yes, I was calling about an incident." "That happened July 4th of 2009." "I was wondering." "If anyone had reported seeing a ufo-type object." "Man:" "We got a ranger here." "Who said that he had seen something like that." "That's great." "Can I talk to someone about it?" "It looks just like the video." "I was wondering." "If anyone had reported seeing a ufo-type object." "Man:" "We got a ranger here." "Who said that he had seen something like that." "It was actually a very successful investigation." "We got to try some experiments." "The first one did not go so well." "It just showed up transparent." "It just wasn't giving us any results we wanted." "Chi-lan:" "Experiment number two went a lot better." "We hoisted this balloon that was huge, 20 feet in diameter," "Into the sky." "Our flying-saucer-balloon experiment was very convincing," "And its movement almost matched the original preston footage." "But it was ben's last discovery." "That really pushed our investigation over t top." "I called the lake havasu state park rangers' office." "And got ahold of ranger myke steighler." "Just watch what happened." "I was out at our maintenance building." "Doing some paperwork," "And I heard over the radio," ""hey, we have a ufo sighting in lot 4."" "So I went outside, looked towards lot 4." "And I probably looked up." "Probably about 1,000, 1,0 feet." "I saw what appeared to be." "A silver-gray ufo 1950s sci-fi shaped balloon." "Floating in the air." "What?" "Oh, my god!" "Officer myke steighler actually saw the balon." "Shortly after it took off." "He watched it go up." "He watched it over the course of several minutes." "Larry:" "The family that recorded this," "They didn't even bother to call authorities, maybe," "To see what it was?" "Maybe an explanation for it?" "Well, I think they were as puzzled as anyone else." "They wanted to know if other people had seen it," "But not everyone thinks to call." "They even said during the video, they're like, "is it a ufo," ""it is a motorized vehicle someone's flying remotely," "Or is it a balloon?" """ "Bill:" "Did the ranger have any idea." "Where the balloon may have come from?" "As a matter of fact, he did." "I talked to some of the other rangers," "And they gave me information." "They were also filming a movie out here at that time," "And it was possible it was from one of their ndors." "During the filming." "You went and watched this video online, correct?" "Correct." "That video " "Is there any question in your mind." "That was a different object?" "Nope." "That was exactly what I saw." "What do you guys think?" "Jael:" "I think the answer pretty obvious." "It's fake." "This is not a ufo."