"[man] Okay, you're in a research center where there are scientists working." "[Shira] That would be great ifthe scientists could anmer, because theywould know firsthand." "[man] They don't even know what your questions are!" "[Shira] I can give them the questions." "I have them right here." "[man] I'm not even sure ifwe're authorized for somebodyto answer your questions." "[Shira] Why is something that's s0called healthy being kept secret?" "It's not like I'm a terrorist or something." "I'mjust asking about milk!" "[man] Shira, look." "You're going to have to send me an e-mail with the information about your documentay, what you're doing this documentary on." "[Shira] I'm asking about the milk protein and how it actually excretes calcium." "I'm asking about the proven connection between milk and cancer development, food assistance programs, the lactose intolerance, and alsowhere they get the vitamin D that they add tothe milk." "So these are factual nutritional informational questions, and I just want to knowwhat the USDA has to say about these medical-- [man] I don't know." "Send me that e-mail, and I'll be happytotalkto you." "Have a good day." "[phone hangs up]" ""Milk will make you"" ""Thinner"" ""Milk will make you make you"" ""Big"" ""Milk will make you make you, make you"" ""Healthy"" ""Milk will make you make you, make you"" ""Shiny"" ""Milk will make you make you, make you"" ""Happy"" ""Milk will make you Strong, Strong"" ""Milk will make you make you, make you"" ""Big"" ""Milk will make you, make you make you, make you"" ""Smile"" ""Make you, make you, make you make you, make you, make you, make you"" "[Shira] 1890: the population moved from farm to city, making it necessay to mas_produce milk." "To makeAmerican daly products more acceptable abroad, the USDAestablished the dairy division in 1895." "1919:" "Educational milk campaigns were developed... to deal with the surpluses ofmilk and dairyproducts from World _r l." "And as a result ofthe ongoing milk campaign, substantial increases in milk consumption occurred." "[music playing]" "[man] When you take a break, make it milk forvitality." "Ridiculous." "It's not based on, on science." "Basically, it's not that you're allergic to milk." "You're not really getting the true information." "...and other daly products." "It's a recipe for a heart attack." "He couldn't." "There was no way he could." "You always want a constant supply of milk." "[Shira] Would you like to be inter_ewed for a documentay?" "It ain't porn or anything, is it?" "'Cause you'll have to pay me." "[Shira] No." "Where did you get your information from that daly is healthy?" "Just in the last couple ofyears from the TV." "So, no, I have not looked into it." "I'vejust kind oftaken theirword for it." "They're not going to say" "Well, I shouldn't saythe_re not going to saysomething on Nthat's not true." "[man] The medical specialist stated," ""lt is my opinion that the ears, nose, throat..." ""and accessoy organs of all participating subjects examined by me..." ""were not adversely affected in the six-month period... by smoking the cigarettes provided."" "Remember this report, and buy Chester_elds." "Regular or king size." "But they wouldn't saythat milk is good for you if it really wasn't." "And again, that's what we feed our babies." ""Calci yummy." That used to be the N commercial in England." ""Milk is calci yummy."" "I once heard an interesting theoy about how apparentlythat whole food pyramid," "Right." "...that was introduced in lots ofschools around the world in the" "What was it?" "I don't know if I'm right with the time, but the '40s or '50s... that actually was given and put together and budgeted... bythe milk and meat association." "Don't just take my word." "Learn to research it on your own." "Because ifyou learn how to research it on your own, then that means you've made a step outside ofthe box... and you are taking your health and your life in control." "Why is it good?" "Well, it's good forthe bones, teeth, eveything." "Great food." "Strong bones, and what'sthat, what's that commercial?" "Um..." "Got milk?" "What is that called?" "Got milk?" "It's called the daly industy." "They have a vey large lobby." "They spend a lot ofmoney." "[Shira] Why dowe believe that milk is good for us though?" "Commercials." "We were taught as little kids." "Schools." "Because we were taught as little kids that it's good for us." "VMthout proof, kids accept what their parents say, what their doctors say." "And, you know, they usually don't question it." "And, you know, they usually don't question it." "[cow mooing]" "My grandmother, who was a nurse, took me to Mayo Clinicto ty and figure out what was wrong." "And they did all these tests and said," ""We can't find anything wrong." "Take herto a psychiatrist."" "Which they did not do, thank goodness." "But I went all that time." "Md one ofthe main things that was giving me a hard time was the daly." "Md itjust happened mydad was a milk processor." "My name is John McDougall." "I'm a board-certified internist." "That means I'm a medical doctor that takes care ofadults primarily." "Md I'm the luckiest doctor in the world because my patients get well." "Looking at the meat and the daly group, ofthose two groups, which should I give up?" "The question is, you should give up the daly group." "You'll get much better results than giving up the meat group." "And the reason is, is daly is basically liquid meat." "It has essentiallythe same macr0nutrient properties, the same amount offat, cholesterol, protein, lack offiber, and so on." "They're vey similar in nutritional makeup, but dairy has some extra problems." "Allergy problems, autoimmune diseases that it causes." "If I now drank milk or had a product with any kind ofdairy product, tomorrow morning I would wake up with swelling and a great deal ofpain." "It causes an autoimmune response in me that makes me ache all over." "I get like an arthritic reaction, where myjoints start aching." "Md so if I have daly over a two orthree-day period, you know, a little lasagna here, or a little vegetarian pizza there, orjust various things like that, I begin to feel like I'm going to become totallycrippled." "Theythink daly is health food." "They look at a block ofcheese and theythink "strong bones."" "They don't think "glob offat."" "So, psychologically they eat dairy guiltlessly, and theyeat large amounts without any reservation." "So if I was going to give one powerful message to a patient, to a community, to a county, tothe world is, "Get ofFthe daly."" "You'll improve your health more than getting omthe meat." "The way it manifested in me wasthat my face was constantly broken out." "He said he didn't know whether going on a nondaiy diet would cure the migraines, but it certainly ought to be worth the effort." "Md I never had another migraine." "This kind of deception is not like damaging your N oryour car." "I mean, these are your children." "These are your husbands and wives and your mothers and fathers... that are being hurt bythis dishonesty." "That'sthe problem." "They should be ashamed ofthemselves." "Now from what we're learning, it's sort ofironic." "It does keep grownups from growing old, in a veryspecial way." "It gives them coronay artery disease." "Milk creates an inordinate amount ofphlegm." "I have not had one sip ofmilk for 20 years." "I had a prettyjuicy nose when I drank milk." "I didn't connect the two." "I haven't broken any bones foryears." "When they say milk has calcium, eveybody needs calcium." "They leave the consumer... to make the connection that therefore milk is a good source of calcium, which is ofcourse absolutely not true." "The fact that the animal proteins are highly represented in daly products... will cause negative calcium balances for people, and it will actually be the cause of osteoporosis and things ofthat nature." "So, but these are things that people don't understand." "So it's a very, verycleverway." "You need fat, you need protein, you need carbohydrate, you need calcium." "Yes, there are things in milk that you need, but you don't need milkto get them." "Doyou drink milk?" "l actually love milk." "You do?" "I love milk!" "Msolutely." "I've loved milk all my life." "Laying down the facts:" "heart disease, obesity, type 2 diabetes, type 1 diabetes, infection, and so on." "[man] I think there are federal laws that protect consumers from false advertising." "Oh. I'd like that." "That would be great, right?" "The wild west." "The daly industy can dowhatever theywant." "They've got the money, they've got the political control." "There's nobody out there to put them in line, sothat's what they do." "[Shira] From 1988 to 1993, there were over 2,700 articles dealing with milk... recorded in the medicine archives." "None ofthe 2,700 researchers... spoke ofmilk as an excellent food... as we have been told bythe dairy industry." "Instead... intestinal bleeding, bovine leukemia (AID_like virus), asthma, childhood diabetes, heart disease, anemia, arthritis, allergic reactions, and cancer were the focus." "lfall this is reallytrue, why haven't we heard about it?" "[Shira] I think that's it." "This is like the best place for breakfast." "[woman] It's not boarded up, is it?" "[Shira] I see people." "Would you say it's dimcult to eat absolutely nondaiy?" "Especially at a restaurant." "That's cray!" "Because butter is one ofthe main things that they use for oil on the grill." "Because it turns the food brown." "Can you help us out here?" "What is what and whose iswhose?" "That's a poached egg." "That's a poached egg?" "Uh-huh." "Okay." "Md that's her bagel?" "Uh-huh." "I hate to say, it looks like they put some sort ofbutter or something on it." "You see?" "Because ofthe yellow." "It might be just in the pan, too." "Oh, my goodness." "Yeah." "[groaning] lt had butter on it." "I did say, right?" "I did say." "I thought you were going to eat healthy." "Say, hey, you were going toty." "I am!" "Just a little bit ofmilk." "It's good foryou, right?" "It builds strong bones, right?" "Theyhave a poacher." "It's like a pan." "Right." "And ifthey don't put the butter, it sticksto the poacher." "So even though you said no butter, they don't listen to it?" "They don't listen to me." "It's not safe to go out and eat." "Really." "Ifyou're really deathly allergic to something, it's not safe." "Alot oftimes it will say in the menu "no cheese." They'll put cheese in it." "Ifyou're daly allergic, what doyou do?" "You've alreadytaken a bite." "I've tried to get this across tothem... and they're like, "l've been doing this for 25 years."" "So have I, but" "Right." "People get sick." "I have a mother that has asthma, sothat's how I know a lot about what glutens... and the daly and all that, because it affects her breathing." "Tom.And where are you from?" "Well, I live..." "Golden Valley." "Md what doyou do?" "Nothing." "I'm retired." "How doyou know that milk is good foryou?" "I don't know." "I wasjust always told it was." "Why doyou think it's health_" "Well, because you've been told that all your life, you know?" "Eveybody tells you it's healthy." "I mean, theyused to believe that the earth was flat, and eveybody believed that." "Mm-hmm." "And then suddenly someone, some cray person came out and said," ""No," you know, "the world is round."" "So if everybody believes that milk is healthy for you, but ifone person came and told you "uh-uh."" "Well, that's their opinion." "Soyou find it natural that a human drinks milk after its infancy?" "Yeah." "It's probably better that they have their mother's milk, but... cow's milk is all right, I guess." "[cows mooing]" "[Trooper] I'm Trooper, and I'm from VMlliams, Arizona, and I rob the Grand Canyon Railway." "[Shira] Doyou think milk is healthy foryou?" "Yeah." "Especially when you're a little one." "When you're a little kid?" "Yeah, the little whippersnappers need milk." "What is it that's in milk that you think is healthy?" "Calcium." "Calcium." "For bones and teeth." "Yeah." "Where else can you get calcium?" "Calcium?" "Yeah, apart from milk." "Uh, you can take supplements." "Supplemental calcium?" "Probably meat?" "Any meat you eat probably has calcium in it." "Mything with blood in it has calcium, right?" "Is that how it works?" "The bloody things have calcium." "Drink blood, not milk." "I think the cows that the milk comes from are pumped full ofsteroids... and hormones and eveything else, and that's in our milk... and our meat and the foods we eat and all that." "And we're ingesting it." "No, it's not good for you." "But it's good. I mean, it sure goes good with chocolate cake, right?" "Well, growing up in school, you know, grammar school, we were exposed to cow's milk as being a source ofcalcium and nutrition, so..." "The food pyramid is, is wrong." "I know that now." "TheADAfood pyramid I don't agree with." "[Shira] Doyou know who made that pyramid?" "Yeah." "The, the companies that produce the productsthat theymention on the pyramid." ""Doyou get the feeling you're being screwed"" "The USDA, their principle interest is protecting the livelihood... ofthe livestock and daly industy in this county." "They also are the ones whothen take this report... and put out a vey practical message forthe public... called Dietay Guidelines forAmericans." ""When it comes to ha_ng food to eat"" ""Or housing so you don't have to live on the street"" "They're tellingAmericans what to eat... based supposedly on health, but theyalso have a mandate in law... that they must promote American agricultural products, even the ones that are unhealthy foryou." ""They say let the market run the show"" ""And let the people goto hell"" "Conflict of interest statements are important, vey important." "Almost sacred." "Md that's supposed to be open totheAmerican public." "It'sjust readily available so that eveything's transparent." "That's, that's the story." "Well, Dr. Bernard's organization went to the USDAand said," ""We'd like to see the conflict ofinterest statements on these 11 people... who are on that panel."" "Because he knew and I knew and some others knew that there were biases there, and we wanted to see how well it was stated on their personal conflict ofinterest statements." "The USDAwould not give them those conflict ofinterest statements, even though it's a law that it's supposed to be transparent." "They had to goto court... to get the court to force the USDA to let them see the conflict ofinterest statements." ""Why do these corporations always get their way"" "'Whatever they have planned we never get a say"" "The Department ofAgriculture... and the people that they had appointed tothis committee... had industyties." "Out of 11 people on the committee to decide whatAmericans are supposed to eat, six ofthe 11 had financial relationships... with either the dairy industry or the meat industry or the egg industy." ""They're cutting services to keep their pro_ts maximized"" ""Now children starve while billionaires get subsidized"" "Considering as they made up the guidelines... was not accessible bythe public, and that it was done in violation offederal law." ""Md Lord knows I can't afford the ride"" "[woman singing in Navajo]" "The introduction of daly products, the introduction ofmilk, um... it's forced upon indigenous communities." "[speaking Navajo] [woman translating] My body system is not used to cow milk, and there's a reaction that ends up happening in my body... where a tremendous amount of bloating happens, and it reallyhas impact on my ystem." "The mothers that are breastfeeding, right before that they, you know, within fourweeks ofdelivering a child, then theywill be enrolled in what they call a voucher program." "And that voucher program is W.l.C." "And the theoy behind that is to make sure... that the mother has enough nourishment through the daly products." "Food assistance programs, unfortunately, have been used... not forthe health ofthe people who are there to benefit but they're used as a dumping ground, a dumping ground for agricultural commodities." "Daiy prices are low, the government buys them up." "They put them in prisons, they put them in schools, they go into other food assistance programs." "There's a lot offamilies that are on... the Women Infant Children program." "Md I myselfwas also a participant ofthat program... when my children were young babies." "Ifyou look at the NativeAmericans, they have this enormous prevalence of obesity, an enormous prevalence of diabetes... which is taking an incredible toll on that population." "And what are the foods that theyare given to eat?" "Not traditional, beans and corn and grains." "That would be normal and that would be healthy." "No." "It's milk, it's cheese." "It's high fat, high sugar, high calorie things that are making them sick." "[Shira] VMth that voucher that they gave you..." "Uh-huh." "...did they allow you to buyvegetables and fruit?" "I mean, just basic foods that you cook and that are nourishing?" "No, theyjust let us buy like cheese and then eggs." "They have a lot ofcontrol on how things end up happening." "And I really firmly believe that the Daiy Council... has a significant amount ofinfluence even on the educational system." "Mds goto school, you know, the local people who are running the program." "They're the ones, the teachers and stuff, they start putting pressure on the local kids, because they believe that daly is reallygood, you better drink your milk." "When mydaughterwas in school, in the cafeteria that she ate in... all the adultswould end up telling them," ""You must drink all your milk, and you cannot end up lea_ng the cafeteria."" "Organizations that actually allow this daly, the school lunch program to exist and the W.l.C. program... and food sold and made available in hospitals, I might add." "Those are three big programs, big federal programs." "Those programs are omering food... that are nothing more than the garbage from the daly and livestock industy." "The_re subsidized." "lfa school wants to have accessto a school lunch program, and they almost all do, they have to agree to omer the daly option." "That's disgusting." "That's been existing for a long time and it should stop yesterday." "She tried totell manyadults," ""l don't drink milk." "I'm not used to milk."" "Theywould force her to end up finishing, you know, her milk carton." "And she would be very, vey upset over that." "And she would be telling me when she got home, she says," ""Mom, they forced me to drink this milk."" "National Dairy Council is obviously interested in selling milk." "So, so even for individuals who complain ofindigestion or other stomach cramps, other stomach problems, the Daiy Council wants them to keep tying to drink milk." "And they do drink the milk, and then theygoto class... after they've had their milk at breakfast and had their milk at lunch." "They're not feeling good, they're going to be squirmy in their chairs, the_re not going to be able to concentrate, they're not going to do aswell in school." "So in a way, it's like we're setting our kids up," "I those children who don't tolerate milk well to do poorlyin school." "I see some children that, that are saying... that they have a stomachache, they don't have, they don't want totake the milk." "Or some ofthem will say that it's hurting their stomach." "When you think about it, these programs are quite racially biased... because so many, so manyyoung children... and so manyindividuals inAmerica are actually lactose intolerant." "And, you know, they're interested in health... just as much as the next person who isn't lactose intolerant." "You know, they go in, you know, to end up telling a lot ofour, you know, ouryoung children... that, you know, you have to drink milk, and the big logothat is out there is "Got milk?"... with people, you know, with milk on top oftheir lips." "[woman singing in Navajo]" "[Shira] What is lactose?" "Um, I don't know." "I know lactose intolerance is when you can't drink milk, but I don't know what lactose is." "Lactose?" "Uh... lt sounds like it might be lack ofmilk." "Lactose." "Lactose?" "I'm assuming it's something that's in milk." "It's something that burns right here." "I couldn't tell you." "I know I'm lactose intolerant." "When I drink milk, I take ofFlike a rocket." "What did you say?" "It messeswith my sinuses." "I'm allergic to it or something as I get older." "Tolerance is putting up with her!" "But lam0- l don't know what that is." "Lactose is a sugar." "It's milk sugar." "It's glucose attached to galactose." "It's what we call a disaccharide." "And when you're a little babywho's nursing, you have an enzyme that breaks those apart and you can absorb them." "But afterthe age ofweaning, normallyyou lose that enzyme." "We don't have the enzyme to digest milk... past the age oftwo." "Um, unless you were born in the United States maybe aftertwo generations." "Agenetic mutation that's carried by about 850/o of Caucasians... has allowed them to digest this milk into adulthood." "Which is not the case for other races, and certainly not the case for other species." "Lactose intolerance is totally normal." "It's a sign that you ought to get weaned." "All I knew was what my mama told me." "Shejust said it was good for you and you need to drink it." "Said it must make your bones strong and all that." "I don't know." "That'swhat I would like to find out, 'cause I just thought about it." "Why do it make me gotothe bathroom?" "When you consume a sugar, which is lactose, that the bowel cannot digest because it doesn't have the lactase enyme, what happens is that sugar... goes through your small intestine where it's supposed to be digested," "ends up in the large intestine where bacteria digest it, they produce gases which give you gas and cramps." "Andjust the sugar being in the bowel causesyou to get diarrhea... because ofwater that's drawn into the bowel." "It's good, but it sends me straight tothe bathroom." "Yeah." "That's what happens." "Sends me straight to the bathroom." "It sort of like cleans me." ""Don't get me wrong"" ""'Cause I'm sick as a dog"" ""Sick as a dog"" "We're the onlyspecies afterweaning we tend towant to keep on drinking milk, forthe rest ofour lives in many cases." "Md what dowe do?" "We go get it from another animal." "Why don't we drink dog milk?" ""Mama's drinking milk"" "[dogs barking]" "Mm-mm." "[Shira] Isn't it cool?" "[man] Yeah." "[Shira] Can you describe to me what you see when you, when you picture a daly farm?" "Obviously not the slaughterhouses and things like that that you don't want to picture." "You picture kind ofthe nice rolling green hills and the little red barn in the hills, and, yeah." "How does a cow give us milk constantl_" "I have no idea." "I have no idea." "I just knowthat it comes in cartons." "Okay." "What are we betting?" "Isthere anything that we can eat inside?" "[laughing] I'm going totythis out." "Okay, flour, thiamin..." "Milk." "_I the toppings right there, no daly products on them." "I won the bet." "I've never liked milk, ever." "Daiy cows, as opposed to beefcows, thejob ofa beefcow is to produce calves that gototothe-- that become steak on your plate." "Thejob ofa daly cow is to produce milk... sothat you can have milk, ice cream, cheese, yogurt, all the good stuff." "Man, you are educating me." "What are you talking about?" "How doyou" " How do cows give milk constantly like that?" "Eating hay, corn, different stuff." "When you have a baby, don't yourtitties swell up?" "They ain't gonna swell up ifyou don't eat the right stuff." "_it a minute." "Naturally don't your" "What are you supposed to say?" "Not titties." "What are you supposed to say?" "Breast." "Breasts." "Whatever." "Breastesses." "Whatever." "Some breastesses." "l gotta go back towork." "Don't theyswell up?" "Don't you" " That's what she's supposed to do, right?" "In order for a cow to give milk, she has to give birth to a baby calf, and that starts the lactation process." "[Mira] The calfgoes and lives in its own little house." "[Shira] Okay." "[Mira] And basically that is to prevent disease." "Ifthe calfstayswith the mama, it can be contaminated with some ofthe manure or anything." "It can get Johne's disease or it can get other, um, bacteria, orjust be exposed." "Soyou want the calfto be in a clean, clean environment." "Md the mama can't staywith the calf." "Because she's got to milk." "She's got all this milk she hasto give." "What happens tothe milk from the sick cows?" "Those we, we, actuallywhat we do, we pasteurize that and feed that to, tothe babies." "I Acow can have an infection in her udder which is called mastitis." "Sothe somatic cell count relatestothe incidence ofmastitis." "So ifthe cow has a low somatic cell count" "Md somatic cells normally occur in the milk." "White blood cells are eveywhere, right?" "Um, and sothey're in the bloodstream, they come intothe milk, and they exist." "White blood cells are pus cells, and in analyses of the daiythat's being sold, they have 350,OOO, 400,OOO pus cells per CC, along with 25,OOO bacteria per CC... that is found in regular milk that you buy in the stores." "White blood cells are present just naturallyto help the baby cow." "But, but humans, you know, when the_re consuming, consuming cow's milk, that's really not a concern." "What it ends up really being isjust basicallypus that is, that is present in the milk." "Um, it doesn't really help our immune systems." "It's meant for a baby cow's immune smtem." "So that's just something else that we don't need." "Milk is really a byproduct ofblood." "[Shira] Okay." "I don't want to freak you out or say something bad, but where does milk come from?" "The cows, you know, it's a normal process... that the cow secretes the oxytocin, and then the blood..." "[Shira] So how long have you been in the business?" "Born and raised in the daly business." "[Gary Bonestroo] In our area, the Greater Southwest Milk Marketing Agency, uh, we're almost totally BST free." "I just never used it, and, you know." "One ofour concerns too is the organic situation going on." "You know?" "I'll put my milk up against any organic." "But the thing ofit is, it came from BST!" "Which isjust stupid." "It costs, it costs me money, ofcourse, to use it, right?" "It makes your cows sicker, and you have more problems." "You got more ailments on your cows 'cause you're pushing 'em so hard." "Md the consumer doesn't like it!" "You can say it's alreadyin milk, and you can tell 'em, the consumer, 'til you're blue in the face, but when you have a syringe there..." "[Shira] It doesn't look good." "lt's a drug!" "Exactly." "Mytime you add hormones to something... that's going to be consumed by humans, you're going to affect them in some way." "Ifyou give them hormones to produce more and more milk, their udders can get distended, they get mastitis, which is then treated with drugs." "[Shira] So how did Monsanto, makers ofthe Posilac (rBGH), get approved bythe FDA?" "Well, Michael R. Taylor, FDA's deputy commissioner, who in addition wrote the new labeling rBGH guidelines, was previously employed by the Monsanto Corporation as their attorney." "So let's recap:" "Cows that are injected with rBGH have higher levels of IGF-1, which is associated with cancer." "The use ofthe hormone also increases infections in the cow, which are treated with antibiotics and are found in the milk." "FDAseems to be con_nced that rBGH is okey-dokey, and bans labeling milk "rBGH free."" "So you will never know." "We are committed to having cheap food in this county." "We, in America, want cheap food." "We have a cheap-food philosophy." "We cannot change our price, or get more for our milk, to cover our costs." "So right now this past year, there's a lot ofguys losing equity... and guysthat arejust not making it, even with large dairies." "We are required to pay 15_ a hundred weight into a dairycheck-ofFprogram... for dairy, uh, promotion, daiy research." "You're talking 15_ on all the milk in the United States ofAmerica?" "Just figure out what that exact figure is, and then multiply it." "It comes to like, what?" "_200 million, something like that?" "Ayear." "The margins get smaller and smaller and smaller eveyyear, so..." "To, uh, make a pro_t... that would sustain a, a lifestyle of," ""This is what I want to do," uh, you have to milk a few more cows." "[Shira] That's when Monsanto came in with the brilliant idea to increase milk production." "So the cows make more milk, sothe farmers can make more money." "Like any other industy, they have to meet" "They, they impact the environment, like the air, like the water... and the soil, for example." "From here tothe ground water we're almost 300 feet deep." "So, but that's one ofour constant issues... is to make sure we don't do anything to pollute, to contaminate the ground water or surface water." "The past twoyears, I spent like _300,OOO on en_ronmental improvements." "[Shira] When we talk about global warming, we tend totalk a lot about C02, but there is a gas that is far more dangerous." "It's methane." "[thunder rumbling]" "[T. Colin Campbell] The cattle industy is contributing... you know, a gas that has... 23 times the power... to create a greenhouse effect than does the C02 from cars." "Daiy industy, on one side, it's, it's a big economic generator." "[thunder rumbling]" "[Noam Mohr] Mimal agriculture has grown enormously." "People consume five times as much animal products today... asthey did 50 years ago." "Our consumption will double again in the next 50 years." "_readythe atmosphere we're breathing... has more than twice as much methane as it did a centuy ago." "Just imagine how bad it will be ifwe don't start doing something about it." "It adds tothe contamination ofthe air, the air pollution." "The one animal that's the most powerful admitter ofmethane... are daly cows." "They need to eat an enormous amount offood... to produce all that milk." "According tothe U.N., it's a bigger source... than all the cars and trucks and planes and trains put together." "700/o of formerly forested Amazon... is now being used for pasture land, and more is being used to raise crops to feed the animals." "Sothis is one ofthe biggest sources of deforestation in the world." "We have been going tothe Caribbean, to CentraIAmerica," "SoutheastAsia and places like that, to cut down forest, notjust to get the wood... but to create pastureland for cattle." "You know, the big-industy corporate types?" "They go in there, "We want this." They'll kind ofset it all up." "I Take down the forest, send it ofFfor lumber make some moneythere." "You know, get all this ranchland and put the cattle there." "They actually chase ofFthe peasants who had the land before." "They go up in the mountains, they get bitter." "They're destitute, and the first thing you know... they're now getting organized and they create political _olence." "They become the guerillas ofthat county." ""l went out one night to check the cows"" ""Saw a UFO floating overthe house"" ""Well, I guess I almost died offright"" "We heard that there was a stoy here... about a cowthat got abducted." "It's a stupid posterthat somebody made up." "[Shira] It wasn't real?" "[woman] No." "Are you filming at all?" "[man] Yeah." "Are you?" "I'm going to slap the tar out ofyou." "Which one, which one ofmy cards doyou want?" "Not your driver's license, except, heck, you're younger than I am, so I might take it." "And you're still filming, and you really are going to get slapped." "We're allowed to go in." "'Well, them alien chicks was built to please"" "That's whywe smell ofcows." "Wejust came from a dairyfarm." "Doyou drink milk?" "If I could drink it it would be great." "But I don't drink much ofit." ""We wentjuke-jointjumping on planet Mars"" "l don't do slaps." "That's a slap." "I've never slapped anybody in my life." "I just threaten a lot." "Really?" "Mm-hmm." "You've never slapped your kids?" "Oh, dang, I forgot about them." "Yeah." ""And a crazy little thing called the Nypton kick"" ""Man, I saw 'em all overthe place"" ""Cowgirls from outer space"" ""Well, I guess they must have taken me"" ""To every honm-tonk in the galaxy"" "The moustache commercials, they say that milk is good for your bones... and it makesyou grow healthier and stufflike that, sothat's why" "So that's why you think that" "Yeah, it's good foryour bones, and plus they eat cheese, like the sticks of cheese." "I buy 'em sticks ofcheese, the string cheese." "Cheese is 700/o to 800/o ofcalories from fat, most ofwhich is saturated." "People don't realize that." "Theythink, "Oh, this is a health food, it's rich in calcium."" "But it's not a health food." "It's terrible foryou." "We have a program here for children, the W.l.C., and they, they make sure you have to have milk." "They, and when theyget older, like my little girl, she's ofFofpowder." "Now she's on regularwhole milk." "Md now theytold me she's too fat and that I've got to give her less milk, and it's low-fat milk because she's too chunky, but she's a normal child, you know?" "The daly industy is vey powerful." "They have tons ofmoney, and they have vey successful ad campaigns." "[man] This can have painful consequences." "That's why strong bones are so important around here." "Especially for those who are just arri_ng." ""[woman]" "Attention, all passengers."" "The proteins and calcium in milk make your bones stronger and healthier." "They're a, the_re a giant, and sothey have, theyhave an easytime ofgetting, getting their message out." "Um, whereas the indi_duals who, who really understand the research... and understand that daly products are risky, unhealthy and definitely unnecessay, they don't have the financial backing for the most part and don't," "they are unable to get out the word." "[Shira] Why do we drink milk?" "To make our bones stronger, um, and the calcium." "Calcium." "Yeah." "Shinyteeth." "Good for your bones." "Well, you got calcium and, and other _tamins and minerals in it that, that, uh, help with the whole body." "Calcium is important." "We need calcium, right?" "Daiy has got the most calcium in anyfood, almost." "Therefore we need daly." "That's the simpleminded conclusion." "I just think it's an important ingredient in our diets." "You know, the higherthe daly consumption in different countries, the higher is the risk for osteoporosis." "It's not the otherwayaround." "Like the daly industy, they've been getting away with that yarn for quite a number ofyears now." "And they found that the countries where theywere consuming the most milk, the countries where they were consuming the most calcium, had the highest hip-fracture rates." "It's actually opposite ofwhat you would think." "At Harvard, the nurses health studytracked women, more than 70,OOO women for over 18 years." "What they found is, those who drank the most milk... had absolutely no protection against hip fractures at all." "The idea that calcium is going to build strong bones is a myth." "Over and over and over again they dothese studies, they put more calcium in the smtem, and it doesn't help the bones!" "Md ifwe, and ifwe learned about nutrition what were the factors that cause us to lose calcium... and what foods we could eat to have calcium from a healthier source, people would be much better om and their bones would be much strongertoo." "When you consume animal protein, such as found in daly products, or meats, or, or eggs, you pull calcium from your bones and excrete it in your urine." "It's the protein in our daiy-based foods that makes it more diMcult... for us to keep the calcium that we're getting from daly products in our bodies." "What happens is, when you're consuming the animal protein, your blood becomes acidic... and your body reacts by pulling calcium from the bones as, as a kind ofbufferto, to neutralize the blood." "I had 14 or 15 kidney stone attacks, and which, uh, will con_nce you not to drink as much milk as you'd like to drink." "Changes take place throughout the body, including the kidneys." "Md as a result they lose that bone mass, that bone material intothe kidney smtem, which precipitates kidney stones." "And you will have an overall effect of essentially urinating your bones in the toilet." "But they still say, "lt's good foryour bones and teeth."" "I don't know what good for, you know." "What are theytalking about?" "[Shira] Why dowe believe so much that milk is healthy?" "Where dowe get this information?" "Oh, it's probably'cause there'sjust great ad campaigns by milk producers." "Where else would it come from?" "Well, I happen to know that milk helps build strong bones, so drink up." "Well, Mr. Miller told me he never drinks milk." "Look at him." "[girl] Yeah." "Hey, kids." "[grunting] [groaning]" "Mom!" "Oh, that's not good." "[man] Got milk?" "[man] Got milk?" "I've learned in mytraining that the milk helps, uh, brain development." "[Shira] How does the milk help with" "The brain development helpstheir skills in learning, in learning theirABC's, their 1-2-3's, and colors and stuff." "[Joel Fuhrman, MD] When you feed cow's milk earlier, six months, eight months, ten months, even twelve months, you're taking a chance the child's going to lose iron from occult gastrointestinal bleeding." "Md because milk doesn't contain iron as much, and it's not as absorbable as it is from breast milk now, the_re going to be, the potential is going to be there for iron deficiencywhen they're young." "Md iron deficiency in a young child can have effects on reducing their intelligence." "Md that reduction in intelligence can be there permanentlyfor the rest oftheir life." "[Shira] So in this home daycare..." "Mm-hmm." "...doyou give the kids milk?" "Uh-huh. I have to give them milk at least twotothree times a day." "You have to?" "l have to." "It's because ofthe food program that I'm on." "Are you guys ready?" "As ready as I'll ever be." "Jen says they put a stick ofbutter in everything." "[man] Here in Louisiana?" "Yeah." "[man] Noway." "Yes!" "Yeah!" "That's what they're famous for." "We're four." "Four." "Let me find something foryou, okay?" "Oh, great." "Ifwe can be bythe window as well, that would be awesome." "Let's see." "Fried food, fried food... and some fried food." "[woman] Come on, baby!" "Be a mo_e star." "[waitress] Of course!" "Why not?" "Love it." "What goes real quick?" "Them cheesy potatoes and eggs." "In the year 2000, the Department ofAgriculture pulled together forthe dairyindusty... a program designed to trigger cheese craving." "[Shira] Cheese and butter." "Yeah!" "Yes." "Yes." "Yes." "Yes." "Yes, I do!" "It's now 30 pounds per person per year, thanks to government programs." "Yes." "Squeak!" "You don't actually need any other explanation... forwhyAmericans are so fat these days." "Well, it gives you strong bones." "That's what theytell me, sothat'swhat I've been doing." "[woman] This is weird." "We are in downtown." "We're the only car!" "[man] This is downtown?" "Yes!" "[Shira] Look, you even echo in the city." "[woman] I know." "Hello!" "[laughing]" "[Shira] Okay, take a left on State Street, sir." "[woman] Do you drink milk?" "[man] No." "[woman] No!" "He said no." "_I right, big Mississippi interview." ""Sun"" ""Shine"" ""líll take it like it is"" ""That is I'll have it like it always is"" "is milk good foryou?" "Yes, it is." "It's vey good foryou." "What does milk do for the body?" "It doesthe body good, just like the commercial says." "Uh, uh, I've got a poster in mybedroom ofthe Three Stooges... with Curlywith milk over his lip, and right after Moe hit him with a bar, and the bar is all bent over his head." "Md, uh, it says underneath, "Milk makes strong bones."" "Md I agree with that 1000/o." "The dairy industryhas grown." "The_ve become veryrich." "And the last time I looked, they had something like _165 million." "Just to advertise a product." "That's a lot ofmoney." "N!" "That's where we get all our good information, right?" "TV!" "[Shira] Why can't you use soy milkwith it?" "Well, it would bejust as good, but, you know, uh, the corporation won't allow it." "The last time I looked versus now, maybe 15 or 20 years ago, they had 300 daly omces around the United States." "300 omces!" "And they're out there doing theirthing." "They are so powerful." "They are so powerful." "Milk." "What can we tell you about milk?" "Down here... milk is a commodity that no one lives without." "Milk is a staple." "Eveybody in the South drinks milk." "[Shira] Whotells us that milk is healthy?" "N, basically." "FDA." "Yeah, but we get it all from TV." "I mean, I've read a few articles, but how many people read articles on milk?" "Like I said, they come with the thing, you know, the white thing, the big advertisement:" ""Milk is good."" "Andjust because they sayit on N, most people believe it's true." "Well, one thing I have to say forAmerican industy is, we're really good at using our byproducts." "We make butter.And what doyou have left over afteryou make butter?" "Well, you have skim milk." "You sell as much skim milk as you can, and you have something else left over." "Sothen you dy it down and you have these leftovers." "Md so ifthey can create a market forthe leftovers, then they make more money." "Mytime you have milk derivatives in a food product, you are making that food product dependant on the dairyindusty." "It's capitalism, it's a smart idea. I mean, they're doing, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing." "But what is the health impact ofthat?" "That's a whole other question." ""One"" ""Two"" ""Three"" ""Four"" ""Five"" ""Six"" ""Seven"" ""Eight"" ""Nine"" ""Ten"" ""Eleven"" ""Twelve"" ""My mother introduced us when I was a little boy"" ""And now I can't escape you You're in eveything I see"" ""Md I want it all"" ""You're in me you're in me, you're in me, you're in me"" ""You are eveywhere eveywhere, eveywhere"" ""You're in me you're in me, you're in me"" ""You're in eveything eveything, eveything, eveything"" ""You're in me you're in me, you're in me"" ""You're in eveything eveything, eveything, eveything"" ""You're in me you're in me, you're in me"" ""And I cannot get away"" ""You're in me you're in me, you're in me, you're in me"" ""And I cannot get away"" ""Eveything"" ""And ifyou think that I don't care"" ""l'll tell you one more time"" ""l want you gone"" "That's whatAmerica's all about." "It's not if it's healthy for you, it's not ifit's good foryou." "It's, how can I market this, and how can I get you to spend your money?" "That's whatAmerica's about." ""l'm gonna quit thisjob"" ""Md I ain't gonna work no more"" ""l'm gonna quit thisjob"" ""Md I ain't gonna work no more"" ""Big man makes the money"" ""Poor man rakes the yard"" ""Big man's moneyworks all year 'round"" ""Nobody works that hard"" ""Everything theytold me was a lie"" "[woman] We're at the CITGO gas station where there's a whole hell ofa lot ofpossums." ""lfyou love your baby best treat her nice and kind"" ""Soyou love your baby best treat her nice and kind"" "Milk." "It does a body good." "I don't know, I really don't know." "Um, I think it would be cool for eveybodyto go and, uh, at least once tythe, milking a cow." "[man] The real deal." "Man, that is so cool." "Md then I think it'sjust a different" "People kind ofsee where it comes from, you know?" "They, they probably would respect the farmer more." "I like itjust straight out the cow, man, because it's, it's just more pure that way, I guess." "Now that's a whole different process." "Now that's a whole different process." "Because normally you just go to the store and get it out of a jug for _5 a gallon, but the farmers are actually the ones that's getting it." "They're selling it at 100 pounds for like 13 dollars, and people normally don't know where it comes from." "Clay Logan." "Possum capital ofthe world, just in case you wanted to know that." "The dropping ofthe ball in NewYork?" "Onlywe lowerthe possum in brasstown." "You know, our, our daly farms went from, I believe, like 25 tozero." "We have zero daly farms in Clay County now." "I just had a, a five-bypass heart attack a month ago, you know." "Uh, uh, I had five bypasses done, and I had eight blockages." "And I'd say it was my lifestyle ofeating that, that" "That and hereditay." "You know, part of it's hereditay." "But, uh, it's what you eat." "One ofthe main factors is a high diet, high in animal products, especially animal products high in saturated fat." "And as I said earlier, that the biggest contributor ofsaturated fat in theAmerican dietarylandscape... is daly products, cheese and butter." "Dairy products are a rich source of cholesterol and saturated fat, which are the twothingsyou want to avoid ifyou are at risk for heart disease." "Or even ifyou, even ifyou want to prevent heart disease all together." "Ifyou look at what's in milk and other daly products, it's a recipe for a heart attack." "It's got an awful lot offat in it, mostly saturated fat, the kind that raises cholesterol." "So ifthere was one food towipe out to prevent heart disease, that would be cheese and butter." "But when you have heart disease, you'd be crazyto eat, to be pouring cheese and butter on your foods." "But goto a hospital and see what they feed them." "See what they feed people coming out ofbypass surgey." "See what they bring toyou when you're in the hospital." "They bring you all kinds of high saturated fat daly products." "Uh, probably not milk." ""Everything theytold me was a lie"" "We worked on this a total ofabout 27 years." "You know, and we did many, manyexperiments, dozens ofexperiments overthe years, and we asked all kinds ofquestions." "First om, is it reallytrue... that animal protein, in this case cow's milk protein, that it can increase cancer?" "Well, we established that point in spades." "It was absolutely true." "It was dramatic." "Md then we went to some other questions, like for example, how does it work?" "We'd like to knowthose kinds ofthings to get more confidence, and the more we looked at a vey fundamental level, the biochemical level, we could find out this was changed, this was changed, this was changed." "Awhole lot ofthings were just sort ofgoing wrong to create this cancer phenomenon." "Md then we got to a point where we could actually turn on and turn omcancer development, just by giving them cow's milk protein ortaking it away." "That was dramatic." "lnsulin-like growth factor, which is a hormone that mama cow puts in the milk for baby cowto grow." "And human mothers dothe same thing for, in human breast milk." "Because milk is designed to make things grow." "Md sothe mother cow... is putting growth factors and hormones and nutrients into the milk... to cause changes in the calfs body that make the calfs cells grow." "When you're an adult, you don't need any more gromh hormone." "Growth hormone basically is looking around for something to do, and it finds a non-selfcell or a mutated cell then it can act on those cancerous cells... and increase growth of cancer cells." "When we're done growing, we don't need, we don't need to grow an_ore and so, but our bodies, our bodies still think that something needs to grow." "All ofa sudden, here's cow's milk protein, the most sacred of all nutrients, I think." "As we've been, as we've been educated." "It causes cancer!" "That's ridiculous." "Md the information we got on cow's milk protein would make it... the most relevant, significant chemical carcinogen we consume." "Nowthe question is, you know, whydoesn't the public get to knowthis?" "We know that, um, milk is associated... with increased risk of prostate cancer." "We know that milk is associated with increased risk ofovarian cancer." "We know that milk is associated with higher levels of IGF-1, which increases your risk ofbreast cancer." "We know all these things, but the public doesn't get that information." "Who controls what the government promotes... is based on social and political concerns, and economic concerns." "It's not based on, on science." "[Shira] Now, theysaythat milk helps you lose weight." "Really?" "Hmm." "Well, you know, I wouldn't, you know, chug two gallons ofmilk in the morning... and, you know, expect to lose weight anytime soon." "Md I think it's easyto believe what you see ifyou don't know anybetter." "Let'sjust think about that for a minute." "Milk helps you lose weight." "Okay, you take thi_" "We'll talk about the data, but let'sjust think about that for a second." "You take this food." "We'll call it a food." "That is designed by mammalian mothers fortheir babies... totake a tiny, to help a tinymammal... grow into a much larger mammal." "This is a food that's designed to make people-- or people, other mammals get bigger." "It's hard to, tothink ofthis... as anything other than nonsense." "And yet it's sparked an enormous multimillion dollar ad campaign totyto get people to buy milk." "Research papers in the scientific journals... that show that theirtop scientists realize this is fraud." "There's been about 50 randomized control trials... that have looked at the effect of either daly or calcium on weight loss." "45 ofthose 50 studies have shown no effect... of, um, daiy or calcium on weight loss." "Um, two have shown weight gain, and three have shown weight loss." "The three that showed weight loss... all bythis guy, this one guy... who's been funded bythe dairy industry." "His name is Michael Zemel, he's in Tennessee." "And other researchers have put this theory tothe vey same test... and they haven't been able to find the same result." "They find that, that ifanything, milk doesn't do anything, or it might actually cause you to gain more weight." "My stepdaughter, she actually had asthma real bad." "She was hospitalized for three weeks out in Philadelphia." "And, uh, the doctors couldn't figure it out." "She still has asthma, but we went to one doctor and they actually said, stay away from all milk and dairy products." "We know that ifyou dothe right kind ofdiet, you can actually probably save at least 800/o... ofall illnesses in this county, serious illness and otherwise." "I happen to believe it's more closer to 90-950/o." "You can actually cure disease this way." "There's a huge effect." "But are we addressing it as a society?" "No, not at all." "Well, theydiagnosed me as ha_ng bronchitis, asthmatic bronchitis." "And so I was on theophylline, and then they developed the time-release Theodore." "And I'd be on toxic levels of, like it's either 400 or 600 milligrams fourtimes a day, which is the most that you can take." "And yet my blood level would not be at the amount that theywanted, and they kept blaming it on me:" ""lt's your problem, it's your fault."" "We give them a diabetic medication, we give them a high blood pressure lowering drug, we give them a cholesterol lowering drug." "We're giving them permission to continue to eat... the same diet style that caused the problem to begin with." "So the inevitable consequences, the disease, the underlying disease has to get worse... as they continue to follow the same diet that caused the problem to begin with." "We're selling them out." "We didn't give them the possibility, we didn't give them the knowledge... where they now have the possibility to reverse their diseases... and live longer and save their life." "That's malpractice." "When you're looking at doctors, they're just" "That's a tough one." "They're supposed to know because theygoto med school." "You know, at the most they might get one course." "I mean, for undergraduates, that'sjust ridiculous." "We're not adequately informing the people what they can do." "We're just giving them a drug." "And getting ourselves in such a mess... that now it's reallydriving the whole healthcare cost problem." "And I met some people that knew about... food allergies and about milk... and otherthings that were bad foryou." "So I stopped drinking milk... and some otherthings." "Md cleaned up my diet... and did a lot ofdifferent things for several years." "Md I didn't have anymore problems." "I didn't have totake any medication." "[T. Colin Campbell] This professor comes along and starts talking about nutrition:" ""My favorite nutritionist is Jane Brody."" "Jane Brody is not a nutritionist, she's a writer for the "NewYork _mes."" "She had a book, she's a graduate ofCornell." "I know her." "This guy doesn't have a clue!" "He couldn't believe it." "He said there were 140 people sitting around." "He said, now," ""Here's 140 ofmy colleagues that are going out to be doctors... and that's what they get for nutrition."" "Pathetic." "[Shira] Where does everybody get the information that milk is really good for us?" "Mom." "We don't ask Mom where she got that from." "She got it from them." "They know." "What is this, home movies?" "Well, something like that." "Yeah." "We're doing a documentary about milk." "Milk." "[man] It does a body good." "Yes." "[man] Milk?" "[Shira] Yeah." "[man] Does a body good." "l see." "Doyou drink milk?" "Yes." "Whydoyou drink milk?" "Because it's chocolate." "I only drink chocolate milk." "Only chocolate milk?" "That's right, from, from brown cows." "How dothey alwam give us milk?" "Well, they, theyeat grass." "[bell dings]" "I'm Isabel Maples." "I am a registered dietician." "I studied at Chapel Hill and, for undergraduate." "I have a master's in sports nutrition." "It's a package ofnine different nutrients thatAmericans need, um, adults and kids, for, um, growth and development and good health." "Oh, definitely." "I mean, besides milk, there's also daly foods like cheese and yogurt." "Well, and again, that's old advice." "Um, traditionally when somebody had heart disease, they, um, particularly ifthey had high cholesterol, they followed a low-fat, Iow cholesterol diet." "Md dairy foods might be one ofthe things they mistakenly... avoid in their diets." "Typically, animal foods would have cholesterol in them." "Plant foods don't have any cholesterol in them, and theytend to be, um, not alwam, but theytend to be higher fat foods that would have cholesterol in them." "So, butter... cheese... sour cream, milk." "You can have daly products ifyou have heart disease, or, or ifyou have a tendencyto it?" "Oh, definitely." "Myhormonesthat, uh, a COW uses... are not active in a, in a human body." "That's like the same way your keytoyour house... doesn't unlock the key to your car." "I mean, it's not the keytoyour car." "Girls are more likelyto be living with people, other men, like stepfathers, that are not biological." "Um, relatives." "Md that has to do with pheromones." "That maybe they go into puberty early, um, because ofpheromones, uh" "Because they're, they're staying with someone that's not their dad?" "Mm-hmm." "Sexual images that girls are exposed to." "They make more sense than, um, the possibilitythat, um, that milk is an issue." "There are traces of antibiotics in milk." "I would..." "I would say no." "Um, there might, I would say, what, basically" "I've worked with African Americans an awful lot, and that tends to be one ofthe groups... that often is lactose intolerant, and, and may be afraid to consume more daly... because of lactose intolerance." "Mdjust because their grandmother did too." "Md part of it'sjust the cultural thing." "But, in, in terms ofwho needs dairy" "Why do it make me gotothe bathroom?" "African Americans really, really need the nutrients that daly provides." "Maybe we should give them other choices apart from milk... because it causes discomfort, it causes" "Md maybe that could be a problem forthem to concentrate at school." "Um, yeah, well, their concentration, I guess, I guess I can say-- l was going to say I never heard that, that comment, but okay, I can see that." "Um... again, I mean, I think that nutritionally what they're going to get from milk... is different than what they get from soybeverages." "Um, yeah, I have to look that up." "You knowwhat?" "I have to look that up to see what the difference is." ""Here we go"" ""One step at a time"" ""Don't be living on the line"" ""l don't need a friend"" ""l got morbid on the mind"" ""Sunshine in mybrain"" ""Making everyone complain"" ""Radio in the heart"" ""Don't be being so strange"" ""l think I'm losing it"" ""Baby, where you been"" ""Everybody says"" ""That you're moving again"" ""l don't want to be right"" ""Baby, evey single night"" ""l could tell you a thing"" ""Mout taking your time"" ""lt's making me nervous"" "'Yeah"" ""One step at a time"" ""Don't be living on the line"" ""l don't need a friend"" ""l got morbid on my mind"" ""Sunshine in mybrain"" ""Making everyone complain"" ""Radio in the heart"" ""Don't be being so strange"" ""l think I'm losing it"" ""Baby, where you been"" ""Everybody says"" ""That you're moving again"" ""l don't want to be right"" ""Baby, evey single night"" ""l could tell you a thing"" ""Mout taking your time"" ""lt's making me nervous"" "'Yeah"" "Please ring bell for service." "[bell jingles] [door closes]" "[woman] Hello?" "Hello." "[man laughs]" "Can I come in?" "Doyou mind taking the keys for me?" "Which way am I going?" "[woman] Hi." "Oh, hi." "[woman] What can I do for you?" "Well, I was looking for someone that can answer some nutritional questions." "How you get intothis building?" "Um, the other lady, because we went tothe other building... and then theysent us over here, and she opened this up to, totalk." "I mean, I'mjust looking for someone." "I have some nutritional questions." "Yeah." "And I was told when I called up that you can just come intothe research center." "That isjust fine." "I wasjust, you know, kind ofwondering whoyou talked with, and then usuallywe don't let, uh, other people in." "Oh, okay." "That isjust fine." "is there someone here that, uh, can meet with me?" "Ifnot now, then maybe tonight ortomorrow morning?" "Actually, um" ""One step at a time"" ""Don't be living on the line"" ""l don't need a friend"" ""l got morbid on the mind"" ""Sunshine in mybrain"" ""Making everyone complain"" ""Radio in the heart"" ""Don't be being so strange"" ""l think I'm losing it"" ""Baby, where you been"" ""Everybody says"" ""That you're moving again"" "[man] Okay." "They don't even know what your questions are." "[Shira] I can give them the questions." "I have them right here." "[man] I'm not even sure ifwe're authorized for somebodyto answer your questions." "Look, you're going to have to send me an e-mail with the information about your documentay, what you're doing this documentary on, and what questions you want to get answered." "Md it can take days, sowe're not going to get you something fortomorrow." "lt's too complicated." "[Shira] I'm just asking about milk." "[man] Shira, give me your full name and your phone number, and I'll give you my e-mail address, and you can send me an e-mail." "Md we can go from there, but to go on like this there's no point." "I can't talk toyou overthere unless I know what the questions are, and I need to knowwhat your background is on this." "[Shira] I'm asking about the milk protein and how it actually excretes calcium." "I'm asking about the proven connection between milk and cancer development, food assistance programs, the lactose intolerance, and alsowhere they get the vitamin D that they add tothe milk." "So these are factual nutritional informational questions... that come from medical journals that I've read." "[man]Md have you tried to speak tothe people whowrote these medical journals?" "[Shira] Yes, yes, I have, but they're not connected tothe USDA, and I just want to know what the USDAhas to say about these medical journals that came out-- [man] Well, they're not going to be able totalk toyou overthere," "soyou have to be able to accept that for today." "[Shira] So my question is, ifsomebody has a question about nutrition, where should they go?" "[man] There are all kinds ofdifferent sources ofinformation about nutrition... on the Internet and different places." "[Shira] S0- -[man] You're just going to have to accept that." "Send me that e-mail and I'll be happy totalk toyou." "Have a good day." "[phone hangs up] [phone hangs up]" "It's good for you because it helps you look better too." "Your complexion looks better." "It puts calcium intoyour bones soyou become stronger." "And you grow... mentally... and it helps you at school." "I think it makesyou grow faster." "It, it seems like they're pretty, milk company is pretty desperate." "I don't see "Get Broccoli" posters up here." "[Shira] What happens to people that don't drink milk?" "Um, they stay short." "I thinkthe, the ads in the cafeterias, you know, the smartest form ofadvertising ever." "I think that, um, you know, ifyou're tying to get people to buy milk and to drink milk, that, you know, you put it in the schools and, um, you know, the kids see it, and then when they're adult_" "They're hearing all the time that milk is healthy, milk makesyou grow, milk makes your bones strong." "So ofcourse, you know, they're going to be feeding it totheir kids and, and, I, I don't know ifanybody really knows, you know, when they're drinking it what is does." "Why doesn't the public get to know this?" "The Got Milk cacophony." "You're not really getting the true information." "Evey scientist knows about it." "The daly industy knows about it." "You know, there's two careers for a daly animal." "I mean, this stuffis dirty." "We are vey conservative in terms of science." "It's not based on, on science." "[Joel Fuhrman, MD] They get the, most ofthe vitamin D, I think, is made from lanolin, which comes from the wool ofsheep." "Sotheymake it from-- Theydon't kill the sheep to get the lanolin." "Theyjust shave its wool off, and they squeeze the lanolin out ofthe sheep wool, and then theyadd it to milk." "You're looking at me like you're stunned." "You didn't know that?" 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