"More than six thousand soldiers," "And the same in Police..." "Banned air traffic." "Snipers on the roof." "Secret agents." "Politicians." "We had the idea of flying a spy plane above the congress... to see what would happen to see how long it would be before they shot it down." "Well, here we are now, and nobody dares..." " What number have you got?" " 36." "There's two 26's." " Boys?" " Yes a boy." "I'll get it to you as quickly as possible." "She's in debt..." "Nowadays she lives on mate Who's she in debt to?" "From today's government." "That's why they live like that." "You can see it now." "Last year there were no boats... in February." "Today there are." "He's saying the system's on course again so that's positive" "Now the debt must be paid." "Now, who is to blame for... the last 100yrs in Argentina?" "Psychologists say the IMF are like analysts." "It's an act, but for us it's the central analytical part." "DEBT" "Imagine the world:" "Instead of having 6 Billion people, it is a town of a 1000 inhabitants." "In that world there are 506 men... and 494 women." "Do you know what's the most spoken language in the world?" "It's Mandarin... 144 people in 1000 speak Chinese." "60 speak Hindu, 56 English." "53 speak Spanish." "In that town of 1000 people, there are 6 Argentines." "And 3 of them live below the poverty line 1 out of those 3 has some degree of malnutrition." "One third of that world, 330 people, have anemia." "More than 10%% %, 130 people, have chronic malnutrition." "Half of the town of a 1000, 500 people, live with less than $2 a day and 200 with less than $1." "The 200 richest people have 86%% % of the wealth and the 200 poorest, only 1%%% ." "In reality, the world has 6 Billion inhabitants." "It'd be good to give these numbers a second thought." "But talking about billions of people." "What I wanted to do... and I spent 6 years trying... was to open the program showing what television was like." "In the end, 6 years later, I showed the workings I wanted." "The idea of seeing studios..." "walking through corridors showing all about television clerks, chorus girls, kids from a reality show corrupt politicians, cooks a magician screwing a girl..." "Then we could say:" "This is it, what you see is television." "It was in vain, a week later... what we thought we'd captured, surprised us again." "What did you eat today?" "Because we saw you there." "Omelette." " And last night?" " Nothing." " Do they feed you at school?" " No." "CHILDREN THAT FAINT OF HUNGER" " Are you sad?" " Yes." "Why!" "What's the matter?" "Tell me." "We didn't eat yesterday, we didn't have the money." " How old are you?" " Eight." "What'll you do when you grow up?" "Nothing." "It's simple and atrocious and terrible to see." "I've never seen anything like it, either in life or on TV" "And the worst is, I found out... the girl was called Barbara like my daughter, Barbara, who may be viewing the program in another part of town." "That's how I met Barbara Flores." "THE GIRL THAT FAINTED OF HUNGER, SHE NOW HAS MALNUTRITION." "TUCUMÁN:" "THE GIRL THAT FAINTED IS AGAIN UNDERNOURISHED." "After that interview, Barbarita became a symbol." "And she and her mum started going round the studios." "From then on... nothing could be controlled." "Barbarita, in the media circus." "Have we done the right thing?" "She was on the cover of "Gente"." ""Personality of the year", I don't know if it was worth it." "After the interview, campaigns to send food to Tucumán began." "I was touched by their pain, that really touched me!" "Everything we are, feel and dream... goes through our brain." "It's our fastest growing organ..." "It rapidly develops the shape it has in adulthood." "It takes an incredible amount of energy." "Can we compare the brain of a child with a machine?" "A byte is the minimum unit of information in a computer." "It's a dot, a letter, a character." "1 billion bytes make a Gigabyte, the unit for storing memory." "A computer like this has between 4 and 5 Gigabytes... of memory capacity." "This means about 1800 books of 300 pages each." "You know how many Gigabytes that boy has in comparison?" "500,000." "He can store 227 million books of 300 pages each." "During the first few months of growth... the brain creates 100 billion neurons... which will create 100 trillion possible connections between them." "In the 3rd." "Week of life, embryos develop... 250.000 cells per minute that give the shape of what will be the spine and the brain." "By week 7, the neurons begin to multiply at an incredible rate, and will continue after birth depending on supplied nutrients, to connect with the largest possible amount of neurons." "In its 1st few months, a baby's brain is almost complete." "It's now the body... that begins to grow." "The brain normally consumes half the sugar in the blood, a quarter of the nutrients and a fifth of the oxygen consumed." "And a huge amount of proteins, almost 2 mg per minute, and 84 different minerals." "But if all these nutrients didn't exist, the development of the brain would be different." "The growth of the neurons... and their connection would be less... and therefore would reduce fat tissue, destroying vital muscles and organs." "You see, the brain destroys the body in order to feed itself." "Malnutrition in this case will kill in between 8 to 12 weeks." "And he's wearing glasses" "He's got to have a beard Give it to me... like this..." "look..." "The eyes and beard are like this." "Mine have been undernourished." "Now, thank God, they're better... because I struggle a lot." "Have they been undernourished?" "No, No!" "Under weight." "I've a boy of eight and a girl of nine." "Have you just arrived?" "Three more meals over there..." "One of the girls in the soup kitchen was undernourished." "Lord." "Bless this food we're about to receive." "Now the government is giving us 70 cents per child," "In the soup kitchen we can only have ninety children." "Feeding a police dog costs nine pesos a day." "We receive 170, 180 according to the lists." "BARBARITA TOD AY" "Be eternal the laurels that we obtained" "Why Barbara?" "Why?" "And not my son, I'm in a worse situation." "But, she's the chosen one." "How can you explain she was chosen by Destiny?" "Or hunger... or chances?" "In this school, this girl has been assigned a priority." "And not any other child." "Barbarita's mum is the sister of my sister in law." " The Barbarita's family." " This is Natalia's cousin." "She has malnutrition as does Natalia," "How do you explain to those that haven't received anything that it wasn't personal, it was not because of them or Barbara?" "What I don't understand today and I'm not talking enviously." "It was all of them, they were all in the shit." "And all the things went to one little girl." "I wouldn't profit from a daughter to be able to eat." "The little girl kept repeating..." "I thought it was terrible... that the girl was so well trained." "My dad has no work and my mum gets no support, we are a big family..."" "She'd learned it by heart." "When you were doing the paperwork in Buenos Aires, she came with clothes, hair and hygiene products... and her mother sold them." "There's a lot of people here that have kept quiet." "This could be called:" ""The poor against the poor"." " How's it going?" " Fine, thank you." "Hi!" "What's up?" "Come in." "How are you sweetheart?" "What I've noticed from some of your neighbors... is that they criticized you for selling the clothes..." "That's true!" "But I didn't sell them." "I swapped them for goods." "I want to be clear for all the people who don't know." "Imagine, I have... 5 bottles of oil but have no bread for the kids." " Sure." " How do you manage?" "I go to the store and say," "Will you swap a bottle of oil for a kilo of bread, "No!"" "Well!" "So 2 bottles of oil for a kilo of bread? "Yes!"" "They negotiated with me, I didn't negotiate with them." "Now, is it her fault or...?" "It's not her fault." "She's a kid." "This generated one thing, "Barbarita, Barbarita..."." "What's also true about what happened to Barbarita, is that many people sent many things to everyone." "Yes!" "Yes!" "It's true." "It works." "All the media chaos and the social chaos was good to list all the undernourished." "There's 28,000 to 30,000 undernourished in the province." "And the population is...?" "400,000 under 14 years old." "When did it all begin, as far as I know the undernourishment, the people hungry, began, more or less in or around 1966" " During Onganía's..." " They closed the sugar mills." "People lost there jobs and kids lost out on nutrition... people used to work in the mills from my dad, an accountant... to the local people who were manual laborers, they would eat round a table and had a good standard of life." "Is the increase in malnutrition related to this?" "Yes!" "Look what I have here!" "This is a photo of Tucumán." "Or at least what it looked like until the mid sixties..." "Do you know what that is?" "A plan of Alsogaray and Onganía changed the economy of Tucumán." "As requested by the World Bank who wanted to modernize it." "They felt the best thing to do was to concentrate the industry... into a few firms and get rid of the smaller businesses... that sustained the economy in the province." "They did it." "The cost of that was to close 11 of 27 mills," "More than 200,000 people in Tucumán lost their jobs." "Because of the sugar debate and the concentrated market... the lemon business appeared." "Today Tucumán is the 2nd biggest producer of lemons." "19.4%% % of the world's lemon exports come from Tucumán." "The 1st producer is the USA" "Why the lemon?" "It's cheap to produce and whole families work unofficially... for a pay that is $1 or $2 a day... for the whole family." "When we speak of malnutrition we don't mean one generation, we mean the sons of those already undernourished." "So why build a 5 star hotel in the Third World?" "Because it was near Venice, as I always say." "He's a legendary Italian chef, His name is Cipriani, he invented the Rissotto Primavera." "The 3rd world is a European invention, it doesn't exist." "He's a European, millionaire who has partners in Angola... for money laund..." "I mean, to open a hotel in Uruguay." "The idea of the Public Debt has got more to do with a financial concept... than with something real." "Do you all know what debt means?" "Lets see!" "Someone tell me what debt means." " When you owe money." " When you owe money, only money?" "Anything else?" "The Ministry of Economy explains the International debt." "Come on." "Think of a typical family, for example." "When they don't have enough money, they borrow." "When you run out of money, do you borrow?" "He earns $25,000 a month." "Money isn't everything." "Countries and people borrow money from richer countries." "Countries and people borrow money from richer countries." "England's growth happened... thanks to the large Public Debt it had." "Yes!" "Also the U.S.A." "I think the Public Debt should be at the service of other initiatives." "I think there must be a Public Debt." "Numbers are incredible!" "There's numbers for everything." "Look!" "It's the social debt." "To avoid poverty, Argentina needs that blue bar." "16 billion were needed last year..." "For the people not to be below the poverty line." "It's more or less the interest of the debt." "The more I think about it the more I can't understand." "What do you need to react?" "Too much agony." "You and your coffee" "Surely at night it'll be champagne." "You have it all and you want more, nothing's left for the rest." "You can be seen suffering on T.V." "But if you see misery you change the channel." "It's not true that we either eat or we pay" "I believe we must try to pay and eat." "Honestly, I believe all debts must be paid." "The debt must be paid... in any possible way." "In this country there are jobs but people don't want to work." "We're in Uruguay, there's lots of Argentines and lots of debt." "No, it can be paid, we must make an effort." "BECAUSE SHE HAD NO FOOD SHE FED HER CHILDREN WITH CATS." "This is from last year in the "Gazette"." "What she says isn't true:" "She never ate cat." "She says it's true because she had cat skins in the fridge." "It's a lie, it's a lie!" "Not even she believes that." "The neighbors laugh..." "what else can they do." "Listen there's no need to kill a cat and eat it." "I never saw her working... things don't come for free." "Aug 6th,2002, they saw this in the Washington Post." "After the collapse of the economy, poverty... is taking dignity as one of its victims." "35 lbs of rice, cereals, nappies, carrots, potatoes... this is what they sent." "People in the U.S. A, who sent us... all these things Are complaining due... to the paper work and bureaucracy." "Lost papers..." "The boat arrived on the 5th and was held until the 24th 24th, October." "Are you blaming "Caritas" for that?" "No, I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just saying, that what you said about the ship being held... at Customs." "It's a lie to the people!" "Because in the Customs that I administrate, we check, and whatever arrived from the USA was rubbish." "I'm not ashamed... of my country but... but in the US, I was embarrassed to go... into those people's homes." "Saying "I'm from the place where you sent the food..."" "Then came an odd media event." "The Customs Chief... and a "Post" journalist were shouting... and I didn't know who was right..." "Until I met the people that had sent the things." "I started to question myself," "Thinking back..." "I asked myself..." "Why do we blame others and never ourselves." "They should worry about malnutrition in the country, not only in Tucumán, your country has a lot to do with it." "It's got nothing to do with us?" "It's got nothing to do with us?" "People would like to help, are you saying they can't?" "We accept the help!" "Come on then!" "Come on!" "Without control?" "There must be control!" "Now we control!" "Before they smuggled weapons, drugs..." "We control." " This is Franco..." " This is Franco s a baby." "...s a baby." "And me?" "What shocks me most is the lack of men... in the neighborhood." "The men must be sleeping, and I don't want to bad mouth them." " What does your husband do?" " He's on Benefit." "And Friday, Saturday and Sunday he has his music like the rest." "They get the benefit." "So now they're resting." "The parks here are full of men and youngsters playing soccer." "My husband left me 3 years ago with 8 children." "I had a two month old baby when he left." "And I carry on." "My daughter is in 4th year." " How do you manage with ten?" " How do I manage?" "I go out and I beg." "Everyone asked!" ""Is it true?"" "They didn't believe it." "I say it's true... and they never asked again." "They call me the "cat eater"" "How is it possible in a country full of food... that children die of malnutrition?" "We're either mad or we just cannot govern our Nation." "The responsibility... belongs to those who have the nerve to talk." "Every day at 5pm, they start to distribute food." "Ask him if that matches the American dream." "This is very odd." "Were there any poor people in Washington?" "There were." "And this is even odder, they were eating in a soup kitchen." "The building you see behind is the World Bank." "This is the toilet." "You dig a hole, lay the tiles and put the toilet on top." "This is the toilet." "The toilet." "I don't have a toilet." "They said a thousand times they'd build a sewage system." "You don't have sewers!" "There are no sewers!" "In 1992 there was a project, to build a sewage pipe line... at a cost of $26 million." "It would have been treated in biological pools." "The Nation provided resources... from organizations to international finance." "That work was planned, offered to society, tendered..." "It received the resources." "They weren't used... for its completion." "I think that the Bank's worries... are not only that countries pay but that it creates an impact... and benefits the people." "To fulfill the credit's objective" "You spoke of the sewage works..." "If I'm not wrong, ten years ago there was a project to build... the biggest plant in the city." "They didn't have the resources to complete it." "They sent 10 million dollars." "They built the 1st section, and then stopped." "Here we are at the bottom of what should have been a pool." "The development loan is actually a rescue loan." "Then they use the loan to patch things up, not to build anything." "Ok, we shall have a crisis in 6 months, let's invent something." "We say we need 500 millions to paint Avenida de Mayo green." "We never paint but with that money we pay salaries." "You cannot pay salaries... with money that's there to buy books." "They got the loan as a cover up" "The bank has an evaluation committee for all the projects... that's independent from the bank" "Every time they consider a loan... they study the risks extensively" "I believe that the Wolfenson era... was spectacular in the sense... that it created a "renaissance" in terms of combining... knowledge, technology, infrastructure, human capital and a social role." "When we went to ask for the resources to begin... development we found out that the resources had been sent to Tucumán" "The Nation couldn't send the money twice..." "Tucumán had already received the resources, the work was still incomplete." "Most of the loans had local subsidies, were budgeted... then added to external finances" "If the local subsidies are not there," "Argentina, like every country pays commission on commitment" "What's the commitment rate?" "When a credit entity lends to a country... it deprives another country of the use of that loan." "It's a commitment that they assume." "They pay the interest as if the loan was on course." "Actually the money's frozen..." "If we borrow money and don't spend it, we still pay interests." "So we owe twice, we don't have the money or the work." "That's the commitment rate." "The infant mortality figures are getting higher..." "More cases of malnutrition with more debt," "So obviously we're not doing things right." "There are two things." "One:" "Why are we in debt?" "Our debt is for things to go on as they are, while someone gets richer." "Argentina has always had a debt... which it couldn't pay back!" "This is a part of the history of Argentina, always in crisis, getting money to save itself." "I always say there are 3 things that should be addressed:" "Illegitimacy, insolvency, and co-responsibility." "A new chapter in the Argentine economic history begins." "We've turned the page of state interference and oppression... to give way to the freedom of productive powers." "So the IMF, the World Bank and other international entities found it a solution... to assign that huge amount of dollars... to countries that would absorb credit." "Argentina was among those selected." "This means, the international debt... is created, in fact not to solve its problems... but to solve the problems of the banking world." "The 80%% % say:" "Who is he?" "That is the question." "Yes!" "Who was Olmos?" "Where did this "nonpartisan" man, come from... who denounced the debt?" "Who was Olmos?" "Well!" "His story is important because... it was the only case that came to trial." "There's 3 causes." "Olmos I, the debt during the Junta," "Olmos II, the debt under democracy from '83-'92," "The Brady Plan  Megacanje." "The debt has no economical foundation or any other." "The debt comes from illicit acts..." "Who knows where the funds went?" "Olmos was persecuted, had no job had no identity... for more than 10 years." "Considered disappeared..." "Were you asked at school about your dad's job?" " What did you say?" " Journalist," "I didn't say he was in prison." "May '57." "How old were you?" "Five years old." "The landlord that sheltered dad as a fugitive and my brothers." "When did he start worrying about the debt?" "At the beginning of the military dictatorship." "Term of Martínez de Hoz" "Right yes!" "Frondizi talked to Martínez de Hoz and he tells him, his political Project was to dismantle the Argentine Industry." "Frondizi says this in a public act in '82 and Olmos reports his speech... and tells the judge: "this guy conspired against Argentina"." "That was Olmos's power, he was a man who said "no"." "That's all that was needed a guy that said "no"." "Who would take the report to the judge and... and would say no." "Hello." "I'd like to speak to Martínez de Hoz, please." " Who's calling?" " Jorge Lanata." "He's not here right now." "What time will he be in?" "After 9 o'clock." "Please tell him I'll call back." " O.k. Thank you, bye." "They take over power and start... the National Reorganization Process." "He takes charge of the presidency until the next day..." "The debt is 160 billions." "It's about 180 billions." "180, 185 billion dollars are owed." "Around 186 billion dollars." "The total debt is 179.702544 and continuously changes." "So it ticks like a taxi meter every hour of our life, it runs and Argentina has to pay 1.700.000 pesos in interests." "15.488.233." "What was the role of the State in this?" " Was there any control?" " Well!" "Here's the problem." "They talk of the responsibility of operative levels, but I feel the role of the controlling mechanisms is essential here." "Sir, we received the $200m loan from the World Bank... who in the Ministry of Economy... vouched for the capacity of repayment?" "The Nation's Gral Auditor is the one who controls the debt." "Regarding the debt, you control if some money came in, how it was spent?" "Well, we have two areas, We generally audit... the Finance and Accounting Dept." "We also watch over the completion of the project... and if objectives have been reached." "We should be doing a lot more." "There's a bureau in the ministry that works on that." "Apart from the internal control that the ministry has... we also have a specific team that depends on us, and there's one in the ministry for easy access to information." " Can we see it?" " We could see it." "We wanted to go to the office of the Ministry of Economy." "The control office for the debt in the Ministry of Economy, what happened was incredible." "Yes, Audit Bureau..." "Audit Bureau." "First hurdle, the chofer..." "Audit Bureau, please." "Can you hear me?" "Where?" "The President of the Audit Bureau comes to see the Debt Dept." "He insists." "The president is coming." "Well!" "We're going in." "I told you:" "They control the debt." "Interior, Lift, Day." " Where are we going to?" " Which floor?" " Tenth" " It's in the other building." " What?" "Are you going to see the Auditor?" " The National Audit Bureau." " The other building." " 2nd floor." " No!" "It's on the 10th fl oor, we've people at the Yrigoyen entrance." "The auditor isn't up there." "That's the Ministry of Economy." "The face of the auditor." "The Auditor's office in the Ministry of Economy." " Ah!" "Yes!" "Auditor no!" " Office yes!" " What floor is it then?" "The tenth, but let me check with these people." "They've set up a camp for a few years now" "Corridors." "A corridor." "Another corridor." "Another corridor." "And here we are." "Did I say they control the debt." "You don't control how the money is spent..." " You control whether it comes in." " Yes." " Basically." " Basically." "Can you tell today, how much the debt is?" "Around 170 billion dollars." "On September 30th, 2003 it stood at 166 billion dollars, plus arrears." "What year did this office begin to control the debt?" "'93, they created the Audit Dept." "What happened before '92?" "It was in a process of recognition of the debt, when the Brady bonds appeared," "The "Brady" bonds agreement is a mix of a previous process." "They consolidated an amount, they never finished checking." "That was before our time, but yes... kind of..." "So, no registries of the debt." "There's neither hide nor hair of them!" "At that time they didn't know how much, to who, or why... when it was due, at what rate, it was total ignorance." " That's not a metaphor, is it?" " No, no, no." "Wasn't there a note book saying..." "Chase Manhattan Bank:" "4 billions?" "We had to ask to add up to the amount." " Ask who?" " The private sector, to see what their international debt was." "What's the Olmos II case?" "When they implemented the Brady Plan, he opened another case, the idea was, something that's illegitimate can't be legitimate." "The debt was administrated by Price Waterhouse Consultants and the agent was the Citibank." "The dealings of the debt was based on the creditors data." "What the Citibank did was ask all the banks world wide if they had made loans to Argentina" "To back up what was said before, we must point out... that the government had to check the registry of creditors... to get information on the debt including the Brady Plan... that was then assigned through a consulting company." "The process of getting the resources via the debt... was done without any control or registry." "There were only statistics registries, simple notes." "The Ministry received notification of the expiry dates... or the creditors' claims to proceed with the payments." "What payments?" "Of the debt they said we had," "Was it verified?" "Let me understand!" "If they said... 100 not 200, was that the same?" "No, that's why they did all the work I'm telling you about." "Alejandro said that in a bank in Arkansas, they said..." "Argentina owes u$ s100 millions." "So come collect your pay." "That was declared here, we did the registries... of the debt asking the creditors how much we owed them... and after 18 years, our justice is not very fast, it came out that there's a lot of documents where... the judge agrees with Olmos." "They can't incriminate anyone as so much time has gone by." "The documents would be worth... something if the politicians were bold, honest, patriotic and if the Nation was behind pushing." "Up to now that's not happening, the documents are sitting on the basement of Congress." "The basement of Congress." "The debt is being paid unconstitutionally... because Congress should pass payment on the Nation's debt." "Our government opens the door on Congress to see files... of everything related to Argentina's debt, including this mandate." "You don't proclaim transparency, you achieve it." "The books will be open for you." "This case nobody wants to see... has 28 parts, 6333 pages with 477 irregularities," "5 judges neglected 477 crimes." "It's in the Central Bank." "Anzoátegui, Castillo, Dibur, Wexler, and Pati Ballesteros, judge, he was the one... who had the case on his desk for 8 years." "38 times Congress refused to address the issue of the debt." "38 times it refused to read it, 28 parts, 20 reports," "30 statements, 500 annexes, 30 accountants 5 judges and 477 crimes... on the Argentine debt which today is 178.795 millions." " Hello." " Is that Dr Martínez de Hoz?" " Yes." " How are you?" " My name is Jorge Lanata." " How are you?" "Well, thank you." "I'm a journalist." "I know who you are." "I'd like to have a chat with you for about half an hour." "Could it be possible?" "Listen!" "If it's private I'd be happy to but no interviews." "At the end of '91, I published a book called "15 years on"." "A chapter in the book is about the debt." "Ok!" "Thank you!" "Good bye." "No one of importance, Cavallo or Martínez de Hoz talk in it." "We want to get a Stand By Credit from the IMF," "We want important disbursements... from the World Bank and the Interamerican Bank as those just mentioned are needed, not to stop the Convertibility Plan or to stabilize Argentina, but it's needed so we can start negotiating... the arrangements of the debt... with the Commercial Banking and... if all's well, we start 1992," "with the debt as a memory rather than a problem." "The debt that was built through years of corruption... is the money that was stolen." "Pay, we must, but for years they've killed us with the interests." "We can come to an agreement... but you can't subject a people already hungry and in poverty... to pay a debt." "Our government was the one that looked for the speculators." "After World War 2, the IMF, gave Belgium one option:" "That they paid only what they could." "They lent as long as the country's country's GDP... didn't go below10%%% ." "That was in '49, it's different now, now you have to pay." "Come in." " How are you?" " Fine!" "Welcome to our humble little home." "Claudio Loser was... the highest ranking Argentine in the IMF," "He was director for the Western Hemisphere, the richest part of the world." "Sorry to interrupt you on Sunday." "That's alright!" "It's not any Sunday." "It's our anniversary Sunday." " Would you like some cake?" " Yes!" "Please." "This is cheese and this is peach." "International organizations pay well, no one starves." "The World Economic Forum meets once a year in Davos." "To get to Davos, to the World Economic Conference, costs any businessman u$ s 30,000." "Davos is also this:" "Different credentials allow you access to levels of power." "It's not easy to go through these levels if you're press." "You have to go back." "Credentials for Davos, for the kids in Tucumán." "Would they let them in?" "She's Anne Krueger, the Vice-president of the IMF." "Those four on the right are the delegates of Argentina." "They've come to explain that they cannot pay." " Five?" " Five." "Your opinion on Anne Krueger?" "She is let's say..." "Get to work, do it!" "She's very obstinate..." "You can't change her mind." "Considering your economy I can only lend you 10 cents." "The institution as it is, is like a small market, a small world where those inside don't relate to the outside" "It's a bureaucratic culture." "They're bureaucrats." "They have there own sports clubs, gyms, restaurants, they don't relate to the rest of society." "If you play golf, it costs about $200 to $250 a month." "There's a lot of criticism in the U. S about the IMF, and World Bank's social dealings with the rest of the world." "Mummy's over there." "Hello!" "How are you?" "What are you going to call it?" "If it's a boy Rodrigo Nicolás, if it's a girl Priscila Luciana." "We wanted it, we've been together for a year." "If it's a girl, Priscila, right?" " Yes!" "Yes." " And if it's a boy?" " Rodrigo Nicolás." " Rodrigo Nicolás." " How many kids have you got?" " Ten." "We're almost the forgotten ones, must be because we're poor." "Where does Nancy live?" "Hi Nancy!" "How are you?" "How many people live here?" "10 kids plus me and my husband." " How many kids have you got?" " Seven." " How many have you got?" " Eight." "I have eight kids." "All 12 sleep here?" "In this room and in the other one." " Who are underweight?" " The little girl... and the five year old boy are." "You tell Mary:" ""I need tennis"." "We won't buy them, we'll get them, you go to the soup kitchen." "We'll get them." "We'll bring them or Mary will..." "There's no initiative, there's no reason to have," " these are people that have..." " Nothing." "No toilet, no table, no chair What initiative can you have..." " There is nothing." " The problem is, they just wait for the benefit and that's it," "They wait for the milk, they do nothing to better themselves." "You stop them from living, you stop them from loving." "They don't have a house, car, shower, they have nothing." "They need sexual education." "They don't feel motherly love, Maybe with the 1st or the 2nd, after 5 or 6 it's not the same." "I think that more than love they lack sexual education..." "Sometimes they have many partners, even from the same family." "That's horrifying because it's not love." "I'd like to know what you know about contraceptives." "Nothing at all?" "Do you know that we women can decide... when we want to get pregnant?" "That's why we've contraceptives." "You've 2, how old are you?" "19." "How old were you when you had your 1st baby?" "15." " How old are you?" " 19." " How old are you Maira?" " 16?" "Is this your 1st baby?" " It's her 3rd baby." " How old are you?" " 18." "So you had your 1st at 15?" " At 14." " At 14!" "She brings home another brother." "They don't have partners, they go back to the family home." "The most important thing is that they want to get pregnant as that changes their status." "A patient used to say:" ""Dr., I can't go back home... because my mum won't feed another baby." "We must blame someone." "It's not the girl's fault that she's pregnant." "It's the work of the government." "International credit institutions share responsibility also." "They always blame someone else." "It's very clear that they share responsibility." "Barbarita, Barbarita..." "Teenage mothers." "There's lack of solidarity." "For me, it's the debt." "The IMF is the ultimate lender, the loan shark that you go to as a last alternative, and if the loan shark charges excessive interest... and is brutal the IMF instead, charges you with reforms, with measures that are meant to "tighten belts"" "And normally this falls back on the weakest in society." "They heard from the press accusations about corruption, that didn't stop the IMF from lending money." " Why?" " Corruption." "It's a problem..." "An internal problem." "The economic policy is also internal but they intrude." "This corresponds to the mandate." "The economic adjustments... fall into the IMF's jurisdiction." "We'll try again." "Press." "We can go in." "There's only one door." "That's not the place either." "I don't know exactly." "Here they plan... the agenda for the year, the politicians... business people, what happens in here nobody knows." "We decided to visit the Open Forum." "Can we go in?" "There's Stiglitz, one of the most remorseful bankers." "I asked him: "Does the IMF have any lessons to learn?"" "I asked that and the answer was" ""We always have things to learn"." "Like a soundbyte I could use to analyze with other analysts." "What I do remember, is that an official asked me... who did I think I was asking those questions to?" "You're not a journalist." "We're inside the IMF." "Finally, after many phone calls and mixed information." "They were afraid we would bring Barbarita Flores." "We're without Barbarita." "There were 2 people coming with us, now there's 3." "They don't want to answer our questions or talk to us." "Until we speak with the spokesman." "They won't go on camera." "No." "Because the camera shows them?" "They don't want to be seen." "Well!" "Let's walk around." " When are we meeting him, at 2?" " At 2." "The idea is:" "We go to Dawson." "Am I really trying to get an interview with a bureaucrat?" "What was the responsibility of the IMF in the Argentina crisis?" "How do you explain that a country that owes 170 billions is now worse off than before?" "How much do you earn a month?" "Ask him what would happen if he couldn't pay his mortgage, the bank repossessed his house, his son had to change career, and ended up working in "Kentucky Fried Chicken"" "and his wife had to clean houses?" "Ask him if he knows that the image of the IMF is not good." " Thank you." " You're welcome." "We could say, the IMF's no crook... but by the way he acts and the way he relates with society, it makes him look like an accomplice." "The IMF is the agent for other governments, say the Italian government, the Spanish government," "They want a good relationship with Argentina." "So someone has to be the bad boy." "The problem is not only the IMF, it's the people behind it." "Desperate solitary nights..." "Desperate solitary nights..." "In there, they take drugs..." "Desperate solitary nights..." "Desperate solitary nights..." "Barbarita:" "For a time I've been thinking how I can explain, as I had promised, what happened to you." "I can't remember it." "I never said anything but I should have explained." "I can't stand it when..." "I can't explain it" "The easiest way is to find the guilty..." "I tried... until I realized that real life is not like silent films." "I wish it was as easy as it is in the movies but it's not." "Here the heads of state aren't the most important people." "The most important are the businessmen from Europe." "You see more VIPs here in 3 days than anywhere else!" "Did you see that in this film, they all have an excuse?" "They all say they understand that it's an atrocity." "You come from Argentina, you know how things are there." "Do you think this is worth anything to the poor?" "On the contrary." "They'll get poorer." "No, no, they talk about how to stop the explosion of poverty as happened in Argentina in December 2001." "I see people in the north worried about what happens to us." "But I feel they don't understand what happens to us." "They think they have the answer to the problems of the south." "They don't realize that they themselves are the problem!" "They make the rich richer and the poor poorer." "Meeting bureaucrats, men in ties, italian managers, professors, golfers, top novelists," "Guys that say:" ""We're looking for solutions"." "Yes, it's a farce, nothing more." "This is the heart of Davos and the meeting's in Davos." "It's like a big stage... and this place, come on..." "These are the important places" "They're called "Bilateral Room", bilateral meeting rooms." "In this horrible brown place with no ventilation," "The president of the IMF can meet the president of Nigeria," "Cisco System's CEO can meet Windows'" "Nestle's Manager for L. America and a Brazilian minister." "There's 200 meetings a day in the heart of Davos," "It's the big PR operation of the world's richest men... in one of the most expensive places in Switzerland." "It seemed unbelievable, didn't it?" "We had to pass all the stages to get here." "This is Davos." "I asked myself a 1000 times why we were making this fim, what we wanted to say in it." "I wondered, was worried about what was happening to you." "And I remembered something I always say..." "A guy meets someone and asks:" "Are you desperate?" "Yes!" "He says!" "Are you sure you're desperate?" "Yes, yes of course." "Can you sleep?" "Yes." "Desperate people cannot sleep." "There was a worsening social situation in Argentina... that was parallel to the increase of the debt." "The money borrowed wasn't used as it had been promised." "And Argentina's responsible for spending it incorrectly." "That's Argentina's responsibility." "What's the lenders' responsibility?" "Did they lend it incorrectly?" "One last thing." "We started this working on the story of an undernourished girl." "There is a link between that girl in Tucumán... and the credit institutions." "One last question:" "Do you have any conscience problems?" "Because of the policies you carry out." " Thank you." " You're welcome." "Sounds naive, but I look at you and ask:" "How can the world sleep?" "Three sad tigers..." "Three sad "triggers"..." "No... tigers." "...they swallow wheat..." "...they swallow wheat and they choke." "...and they choke." "Let's try again." "3 sad tigers, ...eat wheat..." " Eat!" "No!" "Come back in March." "Maybe we forget, to be able to sleep... but I wonder how long we can keep forgetting." "I believe that the USA has some responsibility." "The Clinton administration at a certain time, gave Argentina an incentive to keep the Convertibility." "Brazil is the 4th biggest food exporter in the world." "And they have hungry people." "Argentina is an agricultural heaven, yet we have poverty." "Please don't tell me that the problem of Argentina or Brazil comes from the outside!" "What's true is that the verdict in Washington didn't help," "It didn't rid Argentina and Mexico of malnutrition." "And 20 years have passed." "We must ask ourselves why..." "We must look for alternatives." "But the existing link is a lost illusion, of opportunities, failures, concoctions that didn't work." "If you asked me, would I rather... feed a child or pay the IMF," "I'd rather feed a child but that doesn't mean..." "I wouldn't prefer that the money robbed by the politicians, was returned in order to pay the debt, so Argentina wouldn't be in so much debt." "I'd prefer that." "Is it the IMF's fault?" "Yes!" "That's no news." "The World Bank also," "The North against the South... but also the governor of Tucumán and president "Who knows"." "And the minister of "Who"." "The man your life depends on." "It's night now and Anne Krueger will have her nightdress on... and she sleeps so well." "The 2000 richest men in the world are dreaming of big fish." "Cavallo sleeps in Harvard... and Martínez de Hoz in the Kavanagh building." "Nobody sleeps well in Tucumán, and they are all gazing at the ceiling... for the desperate cannot sleep." "I'm going to sleep in a while... even if I now think I will never sleep again." "But in a while I will sleep." "Never had the world so much wealth as in the 21st century" "Never before had the north accumulated so much wealth yet half of the world's population lives on less... than $2 a day." "Hunger's a political problem." "But selfishness, the mother of hunger is a human problem." "You know what?" "I don't know if human problems have solutions." "A kid cries of hunger, then stop everything, stop it now." "Stop!" "A kid's crying of hunger, close the bank, don't go to work." "Get off the buses, stop everything now, This camera, this computer." "There's a kid crying of hunger." "Why don't we do anything?" "Perhaps as we're cruel, God created forgetfulness, to forget." "The mirror that we built and we're incapable of breaking." "It's complicated isn't it?" "Barbarita, it's complicated." "Maybe with time we can find a better answer." "I wanted to talk about you but ended up talking about us." "I feel I want to ask you to forgive me but I don't know why, perhaps I should, because I've only just noticed you." "We know we are all a bit afraid." "We know we are all a bit afraid." "It's difficult to get up at times." "Everything hurts." "Yes!" "Very happy." "He doesn't care how he'll earn more," " Is he asking?" " Yes." "He thinks how he'll enjoy himself." "Tell me, policeman or lawyer" "A lawyer earns more." "He mustn't be materialistic of course," "A good person isn't materialistic, I believe." "It's true." "My name is Patricia, I'm 12..." "I want to be a vet." "My name's Cecilia, I'm 11... and I want to be a doctor." "I want to be a chofer" " Supermarket cashier." " Policeman." "Car salesman." " Policeman." " Lawyer." "When I grow up I'd like to be a kindergarden teacher." "Sometimes you must kill" "Sometimes you must forgive Sometimes you forget... and smile..." "Like fear at night Like fear in the morning." "And carry on and carry on." "We know we are all a bit afraid." "We know we are all a bit afraid." "We know we are all a bit afraid." "We know we are all"