"We're gonna take our time." "We're gonna move slow." "We're just worried about booby traps, mostly." "And obviously we're missing one body, so be very alert because there could be a live one." "Okay, clear." "Clear." "They have some sort of barricade here." "We don't know why." "Maybe a last stronghold." "This is Control Center Three." "This is the far east end of L-Block." "This is the doorway outside of L-8, the entrance to L-8." "It's empty, Sergeant." " Ready?" " Yeah." "Look behind it." "See there's nothing wired to it." "This is L-7." "Hello." "Can you hear me?" "No, I can't hear you, but shake your head if you can hear me." "Can you hear me?" "Okay." "All right, I see you a lot better now." "Okay, go ahead." "Taking the TB test was an infringement on our rights as believers in Islam." "It contains phenol." "Phenol is an alcoholic substance." "In Islamic belief, it is not permissible to consume alcohol, to use alcohol, to transport alcohol." "Just because you are a prisoner and the doors and gates are closed behind you, it does not forfeit you of your constitutional rights." "Tate was not willing to listen to us because he cannot allow prisoners, or us in particular, the Muslim body, to dictate to him how he run his institution." "What was intended to be a peaceful protest to gain the attention of central office became a full-scale rebellion." "That was never part of the plan." "What is it?" "Shit!" "Here comes another one." "They're bringing all of 'em out." "They're bringing all of 'em out." "Got another one." "Got any rules of engagement here?" "Nothing." "Two in there or one?" "Gimme a count." " One, two, three..." " I can see four." "Four is the count." "Five." "Here comes another one." "Six?" "Shit." "Don't see no movement and a lot of blood." "They're dead." "People was on edge, and people was just fearful, not knowing who to trust, other than their own ethnic group that they actually belongs to." "7:51." "I'm freezing!" "Who is that?" "Skatzes." "Inmate Skatzes." "Who we got up there in that tower?" "We got anybody of high-ranking status Ohio State Patrol up there?" "This is Lieutenant Lewis." "I'm the assistant District Six commander, talking to you now." "If anything happens to either one of us, something will probably happen to those hostages." "I want you people to understand this ain't no fucking joke, boys." "We got eight lives in there that we're all concerned about." "Now let's get something rolling here!" "What do you want to do?" "You wanna talk to one of our negotiators?" "We want the news media!" "Skatzes!" "Call 245." "Two-four-five?" "Two-four-five." "They will talk to you." "All right." "I hope I got your word on that." "Okay, hang on just a minute." "He's walking away." "I think he's going for it." "Inmate negotiator." "Hi, this is Dave." "Who is this?" "This is inmate negotiator." "Hold on for a minute." "Let me get George for you, all right?" "I wish you would, yeah." "Okay, sir." "What can we do for you, George?" "Well, we can start out with the lights." "We can start out with the water." "We can start out with news media and deliver you two hostages." "How is that?" "I can't guarantee that the news media will even talk to you." "Cut it out." "Let's knock off the bullshit." "What do you say?" "Get me Channel 10 News." "Channel 10 News." "And for that, you would give me two hostages?" "Is that what you're telling me?" "George, let me discuss it with my boss." "How long am I going to have to sit around here and hold my nuts till you give me a decision on that?" "As soon as I can get the information." "Where will you be?" "I'll be here on L corridor." "You can bet on that." "Well, I expect you're right about that." "Some of the elders, Muslims and non-Muslims alike, they got together, and they came up with 21 demands." "Prison authorities do not honor their word." "They tell you one thing, and afterwards they do something diametrically opposed to what they agreed to." "So it was very important that we get the media involved to try to air out our concerns, to actually shine some light as to what was actually going on behind enemy lines in the prison system." "One of our demands previously was to talk to the news media." "We were willing to give you two hostages." "I don't see why you won't let us meet with these news people." "Because we can't trust the media." "You can't trust the media?" "Why?" "Because they're gonna broadcast this thing exactly the way it is?" "George?" "Yes, sir." "There's just no reason for anybody to be injured or anything." "Well, then let's talk, man." "All you wanna do is fuck us, man." "That's all you wanna do." "What will it take to get you out of there?" "Have you talked to anybody about us even so much as talking to the news media?" "Have you even done that?" "This is a fucking death or fucking die situation, man." "It's simple as that." "Well, we're talking about it..." "Yeah, we're talking about it." "Motherfucker, you've had two days to talk about it, at least, you know." "I can't make that decision." "You can't make it?" "Listen, motherfucker, I'm asking you now." "You talk to somebody that can make that decision!" " Three-five, over." " Go ahead." "Sheriff's gotta bring a body out." " There's one now?" " Yeah, they just brought a body out." "You got the tapes rolling on it?" "Inmate negotiator." "Okay." "I know in my heart that tonight's the night." "I know that." "I know that if we don't go out there and do something, as you've got it set up, then you're blowing and you're coming in here." "I know that." "We know that your end resolve is to kill as many of us as you can." "We know that." "What happened, George?" "Did you lose control?" "I never had control." "I'm just a negotiator." "I'm just one man." "George, if you get me one hostage and you," "I'll sit down face-to-face on live radio." "You owe me that much." "Can I come out there and talk to you on live radio, just me?" "No, one hostage with you." "I can't do that." "Yes, you can, George." "Put a stop to this in a peaceful, orderly manner." "I want nobody else hurt." "My brothers, if you can hear me on that radio, please holler at me!" "We hope there is no more violence." "We hope there are no more unnecessary murders." "Okay." "From the onset of this, we have tried desperately, desperately, desperately to get in contact with the news media." "We have beat our brains out." "We have been stopped by this administration." "They think they can confine this incident within the walls of this prison, like no part of the world can hear this." "Okay, I'm very limited in time." "I'm sorry." "I mean, the list of demands and all like that... is by no means short, I could rattle on forever." "Now, we are releasing one Darrold Ray Clark Jr. here, on the other side of this fence." "Their mind games start to break you down." "They're swinging ball bats over my head, against a brick wall, sharpening knives, and things like saying they're going to throw my guts in my face." "That's enough to break anybody." "The list of demands." "Excuse me if I seem to rattle on." "I've got so much on my mind, that I can't possibly keep it in order." "Hey, George." "No, this ain't him." "He went to get him some rest." "I'm here to take care of this." "I need to talk to George." "He and I have been working on things." "I've been right here with him." "I hear everything he has to say." "Okay." "We knew that this was a chess game that we're playing." "There's gotta be a way out of here, with minimal damage towards them and us." "We knew what their endgame is, that's get-back, revenge." "Our endgame is trying to get out alive." "I knew the system." "I've been down since I was 17." "And I knew when they were bullshitting and when they weren't." "We were reading their book, and we knew what their book said." "You know, and once you read the book, it's quite clear." "So in the book, they were basically saying you need to wear them down." "You need to wear down their psyche, their mentality..." "And that's what they were doing, day after day." "They were slowly trying to wear us down." "We just had to incorporate what they had in the manual." "We just had to use reverse psychology on them." "We had to do to them what they were doing to us, basically." "Jason, Jason, Jason..." "Now we can play these games..." "This "Jason, Jason, Jason" shit." "Okay?" "Now, we're not going to play games." "The cards are in our hands, and you understand that." "I've given you TV time." "I've given you radio time." "I've given you national media..." "But you got two officers." "We've made a lot of progress, and I just want to see us continue to move forward." "If we end it peacefully, we don't storm." "It was the retaliation thing we worried about." "They tell us our word doesn't mean shit, so their word doesn't mean shit to us." "We had to have something in writing, a contractual type of agreement between us that's binding." "Hello, this is Niki Schwartz speaking." "Your name?" "My name's Jason Robb." "Hey, Jason." "How are you?" " I'm making it." " Okay." "Now, we wanna be able to come out here and confer with you." "Right now, I'm talking to you on the phone." "I wanna talk to you face-to-face, eye-to-eye." " I understand." " For a man... to talk to another man, eye-to-eye." "We didn't know what to expect." "Nervous is an understatement." "We'd been in that cave the whole time with no lights." "Coming out and getting hit with that sunlight and stuff." "I don't know how to put it into words, man." "There was a lot of snipers on the roof trying to conceal themselves." "I was hoping and praying the state would not do something foolish." "They had us stop and raise our hands and strip down so they could see that we didn't have no weapons and stuff on us." "When we got up to the table and sat down with Niki, we needed to make sure who he was." "We got to see his driver's license." "I'm pretty good at reading people, and he was sincere." "To me, he was a man that believed in standing up for truth, justice and equality, no matter who he was for or against." "You have to trust somebody like that." "Yeah, there's a possibility that they'll renege on a lot of these agreements in here, but that's what we got the attorney for." "And these were agreements that we had made with Niki, so I had to trust in that." "And I had to put a lot of trust in Niki, a man I'd just met." "At the end of the day, somebody has to pay." "Somebody has to answer." "They need somebody to be the sacrificial lamb." "They didn't have anyone to point a finger at except for the people who were actually in the forefront as far as negotiations."