"Over 68 million Americans leave the safety of our borders every year." "If danger strikes, the FBI's International Response Team is called into action." "Remember how to say "cheese"?" "Jibini!" "One more time." "Jibini!" "Okay, everybody on the train now." "This way, ma'am." "So we're done working at the village?" "Yeah." "You gonna miss all the friends you made?" "Yeah." "They've never been on a train before." "Well, this one's gonna take all night, so you better get some sleep." "What about the treat?" "Everybody's talking about it." "It's called a retreat." "It means we're done working, and the rest of our trip is all about relaxing." " Sound good?" " Sure, but... can there also be a real treat?" "Let me see what I got in here." "Ooh, looks like someone's been eating all the fruit snacks." "Let me help you with this." " Thank you." " You're welcome." "I saw you push a button, and the whistle blew." "Would you like to do it next time?" " Can I?" " Of course." "Come." " Thank you, Gervas." " You're welcome." " Elijah, Jacob." " Hey." "Congratulations on uniting another community, man." "Couldn't have done it without you." "No, thanks, Tumo, but it... it's your spirit that gives the others the confidence to follow." "You are too kind." "And let us know how the water filtration system works, yeah?" "I will." "Well, that's our sign." "Hey, until next time." "Elijah, Jacob," ""God is not unjust." ""He will not forget your work and the love you have shown him" ""as you helped his people and continue to help them."" "It's one of my favorite verses." "Amen, my brother." "Amen." "Raising children requires patience, kindness, compassion, responsibility." "The list goes on." "When we practice this, our kids absorb it." "Leading by example is the finest and hardest lesson in raising good people." "Giving oneself to a greater purpose is a fine model." "We are blessed to have many members of our congregation who shoulder an enormous responsibility to keep us safe." "And they've passed that on." "All right, who's up for my famous pancakes?" " Me!" " Me, too." "Ryan?" "Don't kill me." "I have to work." "Oh, come on." "On an empty stomach?" "You getting on a plane or are you going to the office?" " The office." " Well, you can swing by, and you can have the first batch and be at your desk by noon." "You sure?" "I've seen you on the griddle, Dad." "It takes you a while." "What is it you're always saying?" ""You can't rush perfection."" "Uh, well, that's true, but you gotta come by anyway." "Your mom and I don't see you enough." "Done." "Ryan, you wanna race to the car?" "Oh, you are on, little brother." "Ready?" "Set." " Go!" " Go, R.J.!" "Have you thought about R.J.'s request?" "You know I wouldn't give this my blessing if I hadn't done the research." "It's a great group and a safe trip." "He's still awfully young, and the Dominican Republic is too far away." "How about the other camp?" "He loves that place." "When he was little, he did." "He's 14." "He wants to volunteer and make a difference." "He grew up watching you do it." "When's the last time we had a Sunday at the park?" "You know that's a cue for my phone to ring." "I know." "I debated whether I should say it out loud." "It's a miracle." "Put that down." "Well, we should make the best of it, huh?" "Hey, guys!" "Who wants to play hide-and-seek?" " Me, me, me, me!" " Yeah?" "Hide-and-seek." "Ready?" "Go!" "To good friends and Sunday brunch." "We haven't done this in a while." "Thanks for making this happen, Monty." "Just meant I had to wake up at zero dark thirty for Grandma's Sunday mass, but I am happy to sacrifice the sleep if it means I can see all my ladies in one day." "Aw." "So does that mean you have room for any other ladies in your life?" "Um... depends." "Come on." "Spill it, Seger." "Okay, I just met this very sweet girl who moved into my neighborhood." "I think I may have finally found someone worthy of you." "Oh." "Well, let's make this a win-win then... 'cause I met this guy at this comic book convention." "He would be great for you." "Just meet him." "Wow." "Huh." ""Huh" isn't "no."" "We're making some progress." "You mean just, like, for coffee or something." " Yeah." "Yeah, that works." " This is good." " My heart's singin'." " It's just coffee." "Yeah, well, it sounds like the beginning of a new chapter to me." "Yeah, well, I think it is." "Cheers!" "The train for Shinyanga will be leaving in 10 minutes." "Good morning." "We've arrived at Arusha." "Hello?" "Anybody here?" "We've got 23 missing Americans in Tanzania." "They're members of the Brunswick Mission Church in Texas." "They spent a week volunteering in villages before they disappeared." "They were last seen en route to a rural retreat." "Uh, the conductor had eyes on them about 2:30 in the morning, their time." "Well, that was 12 hours ago." "A lot can happen between now and then." "Have the local police searched the area where the train stopped?" "That's the thing." "They didn't stop." "Well, you're... you're saying 23 people vanished from a moving train?" "How the hell does that happen?" "Yes, but all the employees insisted there was no stops, no commotion." " Then what's their explanation?" " The Rapture." "Like... "plucked from the Earth and taken to Heaven" rapture?" "The one and only." "Yeah, well, we have to assume that it wasn't a miracle that took these people." "How does an unsub take 23 people?" "Well, we can't figure out the how unless we know the who." "Who has the skills to pull this off?" "It'd have to be an organized group who's done this kind of thing before." "And I bet they're heavily armed." "Well, criminal gangs and rebels have surged into Tanzania to escape their own unrest." "I mean, travelers are easy prey." "And once the Americans left the capital of Dar es Salaam, the rest of the trip is rural." "Monty, any luck on getting us the passenger manifest?" "No, because most tickets were purchased in cash." "However, I am trying to figure out how many more passengers there were on the train by going through the background in social media posts." "The Americans posted these on their way to the retreat, before the cellphone service went out." "Do all the missing have active social media accounts?" "No." "About half of them." "Why?" "Because their loved ones are gonna be expecting an update soon." "Yeah, we should get ahead of this, reach out to their families." "Monty, we need to control what gets out, so it's best they come to you." "That's a lot of people." "Maybe the B.A.U. can help." "It's important that they do not alert the press." "Yeah, if there's a story, organized unsubs like this will follow, and they'll be two steps ahead of us." "Both governments have agreed to wait 24 hours before releasing a media statement." "Clock starts when you land." "Well, a day doesn't give us much time to find 'em." "Well, let's hit the ground running." "Local police have started a search, but the area is so vast, they need us to help narrow it down." "These people were out to help others." "I'm not about to let them get punished for it." "A Tanzanian proverb says," ""Little by little, a little becomes a lot."" " Inspector Polino." " Unit Chief Garrett." "This is my team... agents Simmons, Seger, and Jarvis." "Agents, please come this way." "We saw no forced entry, and it looks like the belongings of the Americans are still on board." "We need to speak with the employees who discovered this." "I hope you get more out of them than I did." "Are they cooperating?" "Yes, just insistent on their beliefs." "But I believe there's someone responsible." "Does this look like the work of any militias or rebels around here?" "There are legends out there... men who go beyond just stealing what they can and leaving tourists stranded, ones who want to punish." "Can you lead us to these men?" "They are who they are because we cannot catch them." "They attack and move on." "They are the most dangerous ones." "I understand that, but right now, they're our best lead, so we need to track 'em down." "Clara and Mae, you start on victimology from what's left of the train." "Simmons, you should look at routes and talk to the conductor who found the empty car." "Inspector, I'd like to talk to the search party." "They are gathering here soon." "I also have officers searching the route, but they are overwhelmed." "The train traveled overnight, no stations between." "Where do we begin?" "Well, give us an hour." "We'll have a starting point." "Okay, right this way." "Yes, you can send me more photos." "Digital files are fine." "Excuse me." "23 people missing from a train?" " How does that even happen?" " I don't know, but it did." "And now it's everyone's nightmare." "Those families must be a mess." "I mean, at least they're all in that room so they can get updates all the time, but... there's only 10 of them." "Where's the rest of the family members?" "Not all the families have obvious next of kin." "That's what makes it tricky." "Well, did you check the next-of-kin database?" " What about NamUs?" " Yes, but there's not much info." "I mean, the missing are a low-key group." "So they kind of fly under the radar, so it makes sense." "But because we have to keep this super-contained, so I can only really share what I say and to who." "I've been checking social media for close relatives, but it seems the only people who are keeping track of them were their siblings and parents." "Okay." "That's a kick-ass start." "Would I be toe-stepping if I offered to help?" "I could dig into the database dungeon." "I could search for family members that aren't here." "I could stay with the ones that are here." "I would love it if you could do both." "I would also love it if we could clone ourselves." "Right?" "We need, like, 10 of us." "I would offer up my team, but they're in Nebraska." "It's fine." "If you can just stay here with them, then I can go search for relatives I can trust." "Great." "I-I will make tea, because that always helps." "So the youngest is Nicholas... 7 years old." "son to single mom Rebecca." "That's brave to bring him all this way." "Well, yeah, but they were traveling with their church, so it's essentially an extended family." "That's weird." "What?" "If this has anything to do with money, it's strange that the unsubs didn't take any of the valuables." "This attack was quick and efficient." "They prioritized." "Maybe they were holding out for something more, you know, like ransom." "Yeah." "Also a forensic countermeasure." "There's no reason for us to track the GPS, since all their phones are right here." "And like the inspector said, there's no sign of forced entry." "The only thing is this door." "Looks like it was jammed from the inside." "Maybe the unsubs were on board." "Yeah, but jumping would have caused a lot of injuries." "Unless this is an inside job." "Yeah, this would make a lot more sense if one of the employees was in on it." "Yes, Gervas." "And I speak English." "Thank you for helping us." "So were you the last one to see the Americans?" "I did rounds at 2:30." "Everything was fine." "And you arrived here at..." " at 6:30 this morning." " That's right." "So somewhere in the span of that four hours, the 23 Americans disappeared." "Do you know how that happened?" "I think it was the Rapture." "They were delivered to Heaven." "You think they were the chosen ones?" " I do." " But you were not." "It's okay." "I have many responsibilities here." "You have children?" "Yes." "Do you?" "Yeah." "Yeah, and I keep thinking about what those parents are going through back in the United States." "They should be happy." "Their loved ones are with God." "You cannot prove that." "Listen..." "I can't do my job unless I look at all sides." "The thing is, I do believe they were chosen, just not in the same way you believe in." "And whoever took them was watching and waiting for them to be vulnerable." "I think they're organized, I think they're patient, and I also think they needed help from the inside to pull this off." "Now you're saying the train never stopped." " That's correct." " Well, forgive me for asking, but if someone were to threaten your family, would you do whatever it took to protect them?" " Of course." " Would you stop a train so they could kidnap 23 Americans?" "Listen, I swear on my children's lives that did not happen." "Do you understand what I'm saying to you?" "Look, if I'm lying, my children will be damned to hell." "Look, I had nothing to do with this." "I swear to you, I did not do anything." "Please..." "Okay, okay, okay." "All right." "I believe you." "I need your help." "You've worked this train for years." " Yes." " All right." "So there's 400 miles between when you last saw them and when you arrived here in Arusha." "Can you show me any terrain where you may have slowed down, even a little bit?" "Yeah, I can do that." "First of all, I want to thank you all for volunteering your time." "We believe we're dealing with a specialized abduction, requiring many offenders." "They're confident, organized, and have the means to hold 23 people hostage." "They likely have access to encampments, vehicles, and weapons." "We're narrowing down a starting point for the search and can begin to canvass as soon as we confirm." " Thank you." " Asante tena." "Guys, we got a possible point of attack." "Let's go." "So the train slowed down here to get over this trellis." "This could have been the snatch-and-grab point, but it's doubtful they kept them here." "There's not much around." "They were definitely exposed." "And look over there." "They must have come down that hill." "The footprints... they were all scattered." "It would have been chaos, but they gained control." "Which way did they go?" "Guys, I got something here." "It looks like one of the leaders..." "Jacob Ross." "They've got eyes on us, up on the ridge." "What do you know about those rebels?" "The flag is a Somali rebellion that's wreaked havoc all over the continent." "They are at odds with everyone." "If the Americans are held hostage inside that camp," "I'll lead the negotiation." "I'm not calling in armed forces." "Their presence could inflame the situation." "Yeah, but we do have one thing on our side." "In Somali culture, there's something called  which roughly translates to "fighting while seated."" "Those at odds can be civil unless they're on the battlefield." "Okay, then." "Simmons, Polino, and I will approach." "Clara, you and Mae lead the search party." "We found one body." "There may be more." "_" "Who's your leader?" "We were litter mates." "Sit." "My name is Jack Garrett." "This is Matt Simmons, and that's Inspector Polino." "Last night, 23 Americans were taken off a train, and one was killed a quarter-mile from here." "I think you may know who did it." "There are only 12 of us here." "Why would I take more men than I could control?" "It only takes one gun to control a group." " I see plenty of those around here." " I have paid for my weapons." " By robbing innocent people." " Those are your words, not mine." "So you found just one dead American" " at the bottom of my hill?" " Yes." "I thought after 9/11, you people were taught to fight back." "Or are the rest of the missing Americans just a bunch of cowards?" "Keep moving!" "Honey, hold on." "Go." "What did you find out up there?" "Do they have the Americans?" "Well, it wasn't those guys." "I mean, they're horrible, but they haven't got the space to hide anyone up there." "And they're not organized enough for a mass abduction." " What have you got?" " Looks like Jacob Ross suffered multiple contusions from multiple sources." "Put up a hell of a fight." "He has defensive wounds all over." "The C.O.D. is still undetermined, since I can't properly examine the corpse out here, but right now, I'd say it's a tie between the blunt force trauma to his skull or the stab wounds in his abdomen." "Overkill, anyone?" "The unsubs may have taken the whole group, but I think that the target of their rage was Jacob." "Well, he and a handful of others have volunteered in Tanzania before." " Maybe they made enemies." " We should look into their previous trips, see if there's any other conflicts." "Well, they are organized enough to plan forensic countermeasures, like dumping Jacob's body near the Somali rebel camp." "Well, the overkill tells us there's a personal connection, and they want them to be punished." "Killing Jacob is proof that they mean what they say." "We should also look for secure locations where they could keep 22 people." "Yeah." "Problem is, if they have vehicles, they could be long gone by now." "Where's Jacob?" "When we got off the train," "I saw a bad man take Elijah and Jacob away." "Did he hurt them?" " Yeah." " Are they gonna hurt us, too?" "Elijah's gonna be okay." "We all will." "Aren't you afraid, too, John?" "Of course, but I also have faith." "Since discovering Jacob's body," "I did some digging and found his wife Sarah." "She filed for divorce about a year ago, but Jacob never signed the papers." "And that's when I started doing some digging and found something interesting." "Jacob doesn't have any personal banking, but he has opened all of the mission's accounts." "He's overseen hundreds of thousands of dollars in goods, which have been shipped to Tanzanian projects." "Jacob is the only American associated with the goodwill." "That could be why he was targeted." "Who's his contact in Tanzania?" "Tumo Makani, the minister of several villages." "Now, Tumo's receipts for goods don't really match up with Jacob's waybills." "I think Tumo was stealing." "He's the man between Jacob and Elijah in this photo." "Keep your friends close..." "Tumo's got compounds and his own volunteers all over, but there is a spot about 50 miles from your current location." " Send us the coordinates." " Done." "He's got a personal connection to the victim and the means and motive to pull this off." "Let's go." "Tumo." "FBI!" "Freeze!" "Tumo, stop!" "Uhh!" "Aah!" "Get up!" "Get up!" "Up!" "What do you know?" "!" "Where are they?" "!" "Tumo, where are the Americans?" "They are long gone by now." "Where are they taking us?" "What are they saying?" "He said, "saa nyingine."" "I think it means "another hour."" "Another hour?" "Until what?" "Until somebody else gets hurt?" "Until they kill us all?" "What happened to Jacob Ross?" "I last left him on the train." "Jacob's dead, and the Americans are missing." "Someone took them off." "Where were you and your men at 2 in the morning?" "On our way here." "It took all night." "Why'd you run?" "Because we took advantage of the kindness." "We stole from the shipments." "But that's it." "He doesn't leave until we get some answers." "Jack Garrett." "Tumo said that he stole from Jacob, but this isn't even a fraction of the supplies that Jacob sent to Tanzania." "Maybe he's hiding the rest at another compound." "Or maybe he's just lying." "What's wrong?" "Tanzanians want to send in special ops, which could compromise everything." "The minute they deploy, the media's gonna be all over it." " How much time do we have?" " Until midnight." "So it's been a year since you last saw Jacob?" "A little over that, actually." "And you two are not divorced?" "Jacob wouldn't betray his promise to God." "And that's when you moved in with your sister." "Yes." "Look, I know Jacob was really involved with" " the Brunswick Mission Church." " Yeah." "And it seems like him and Elijah Ward organized the trips to Tanzania." "Yeah." "Jacob would follow Elijah anywhere." "Look, do you have something I need to sign or identify Jacob's body?" "'Cause I really have to go." "I just need you to answer a few more of my questions." "Come with me." "When we looked at the things left behind on the train, women were the only ones who had personal items." "The men traveled light." " That sounds stereotypical." " Except it gets weirder." "Monty said that he's only been able to get ahold of the missing women's families because they all had social media accounts." "But none of the men had any social media presence at all." "Zilch." "Go ahead, Monty." "So Jacob's estranged wife is here, and she got really anxious when I mentioned the church and, more specifically, Elijah Ward." "She said that Jacob would follow Elijah anywhere and actually referred to him as a "loyal subject."" "Interesting choice of words." "So they're not the partners that we thought they were." "Elijah's the leader." "And Jacob was killed by somebody he knows." "Let's focus on Elijah." "Come, come." "Let's go." "This way." "Move." "_" "_" "Elijah started this devout group, initiated Jacob as his right hand, and then 11 more men joined over the next few years." "Elijah and his 12 disciples." "And then he slowly recruited nine more women, including Rebecca Moore, who brought along her son." "According to their loved ones, all these women struggled with abuse and were searching for help." "Which would make them easier to manipulate." "I think these women were taken against their will." "They were far from home, which gives Elijah the ultimate power and control over them." "They'd be too afraid to revolt." "We were looking in the wrong direction." " The unsub's on the inside." " This is a radical cult, and Elijah is their charismatic leader." "He groomed these women to trust him." "He used their faith against them." "We can't let him get away with this." "So... where would Elijah take them?" "John." "What's wrong?" "What's going on?" "Did you know this was happening?" "We couldn't tell everyone." "The mission could have been compromised." "What... mission?" "To start over... here, all of us." "You can go now, John." "What is it, Rebecca?" "You... tricked us." "No." "I tested you." "How many times have I told you to stop victimizing yourself?" "Now you believe, as I do, that we all have to go through hell before we get to Heaven." "You... you told me that you would do anything to get away from your hell." "Your bruises may have healed on the outside, but inside, you are still broken and still bleeding." "You need me to help you to be strong for this young man that you are raising." "You... you'd do anything for him, right?" "I would never hurt you, like his father did." "Don't you have faith, Rebecca?" "Yes." "Of course I do." "You have to stop letting fear guide you." "What kind of a lesson is that for Nicholas?" "It's beautiful here, son." "You'll see." "Our initial profile was correct." "This is a mission-oriented group, but Elijah is their leader." "And it took years for him to plan this." "Everything he does, he does for a reason." "He chose all of these villages." "Do they have any meaning to you?" "These spiritual leaders are extremist." "Probably recruited those men to help set up the commune." "Elijah suffers from a religious psychopathology referred to as a "Moses complex."" "He doesn't think he's God, but believes he speaks for him." "And he believes he was chosen by God to lead his people to the promised land." "We've done it." "Monty just sent this." ""Elijah was born and raised by a delusional young couple" ""who believed that he could speak to God."" "And they named him accordingly." "Elijah was a Hebrew prophet in both the books of Kings in the Old Testament." ""His parents were arrested" ""for severe abuse of their other children." ""All were taken away, but it was too late for Elijah."" "He was driven to make his parents' belief his life's mission." "He wasn't afraid to kill for it." "Jacob's murder unleashed a homicidal rage." "And if he's showing signs of euphoric stress, it could fuel him to take more risks and hurt more people." "What were his siblings's names?" "He was the youngest of eight." "Kids were Ezekiel, Isaac, Ruth," "Caleb, Miriam, Rachel, and Samuel." "Why?" "All names from the Old Testament." "It was drilled into his head." "He planned the train ride to get them close to the Olduvai Gorge." "And historians believe that is the original Garden of Eden." "I know a shortcut." "The journey started five years ago, when all of you brothers and sisters said that you were lost." "Together, we are found." "Let us bow our heads and give thanks to our maker, who has brought us safely to our new home." "Mama, I don't like this place." "I wanna go home." "I know, baby." "It's gonna be okay." "What's the matter?" "Are you afraid?" "Yes." "Haven't I told you that fear is for the weak?" "Y-yes." "And are you weak, Nicholas?" "No." " Mama!" " Bring him back." " This needs to end now." " Nicholas, it's okay." " Mama, please!" " Hey, Nicholas!" " Elijah!" " Mama!" " Nicholas?" "Elijah, please." " Mama!" "Elijah, bring him back." "Elijah." "Elijah, please." "Elijah, please, don't hurt him." "Elijah, please!" "Mama!" "Mama!" "Please, Elijah, don't hurt him!" " Mama, please!" " Elijah, please!" "Someone help him!" "Elijah, please!" "Please!" "No!" "He is delivered from sin, death, and the Devil." "He has entered our kingdom here on Earth." "You're home now." " No need to be afraid anymore." " Mama!" "Oh, my God." "I am so sorry." "It's my fault." "I'm so..." "Let us join in the sacraments of admission and adoption." "Brothers and sisters, join me." "Jack?" "They'll be protective and convinced we're attacking." "We don't want another Waco." "We go as a peaceful negotiation." " He is delivered from sin..." " Amen." "... death, and the Devil." "He has entered into our kingdom here on Earth." "Amen." "Who are you?" "My name is Jack Garrett." "I'm with the FBI." " You don't belong here, Jack." " Neither do these people." "We are on our own path." "It's not for you to judge." "I'm not judging." "I'm protecting those who didn't choose to be here." "Every choice that they have made has brought them to this very spot." "Maybe that's true, but if anyone's here against their will, that's against the law." "Brethren, do you recognize Jack?" "He is the serpent that wants us to deny our truth!" "I'm only advocating free will." "We both believe in that." "Does anyone want to leave?" "No one is in danger here, but your souls will be if you run back to the life that you know, to darkness, to demons!" "We can start over here." "I have built a safe place for you." "Remember why we left!" "This is our destiny!" "Don't let them scare you." "God's work is to spread the light, not hide it away from the world." "Why would you hide everyone away?" "Because the world isn't safe." "And it's my fate to help others." "I know how you feel." "Sometimes, I... take a leap of faith." "Other times, I deal with hard facts, like in this case." "You tricked the women to join you here." "No, I'm saving them from the abuse that they have suffered." "Have you told anyone what happened to Jacob Ross?" "He was brutally murdered." "It's the way he was killed that told us the most." "It was personal." "He showed signs of fighting back... bloody knuckles, skin under his fingernails." "Who did that to your face?" "Why would I kill Jacob?" "He threatened your leadership, and you punished him for it." "Then you sacrificed Jacob to lead the investigation away from your paradise." "You're a false prophet and a murderer." "How dare you come in here and spill those lies?" "All you men are trusted disciples." "How much longer before he kills you?" "I'm scared." "It's okay." "I got you." "Free will, right?" "Come on." "This way." "Okay." "You're safe now." "Come on, come on." "You've ruined everything." "Don't you see?" "This was their fate." "See if that's yours." "My blood will be on your hands." "You will have sinned." "All you ever wanted was power and control." "You have that now." "Now go ahead." "Be a martyr." "Killing yourself makes you a sinner in the eyes of your followers, and you don't want to do that." "Elijah, give me the gun." "Let go of the gun." "Oh, cool." "Can I go over there?" "Sure." " Mr. Agent Garrett?" " Hi, Nicholas." "Thanks for saving us." "Well, thanks for being so brave." "I have a question." "Is that your motorcycle?" "You see that guy right there?" " He rides this a lot." " Mm." "And you see Agent Jarvis up there talking to your mother?" "She wants to ride this a lot." "Me, too." "All right, come here." "Okay." " You like that?" " Yeah." "I saw the news." "I thought you could use a hug sooner than later." " Thanks." " Thank God you found them." "You know, some of them didn't want to leave." "They devoted their lives to that man." "I have to believe they'll find a safer place to live." "I saw you guys landed." " Good job, Dad." " Thanks." " Are you headed off?" " Mm." "Like father, like son?" "I guess this case means R.J. doesn't stand a chance for his Dominican Republic trip." "He hit you up, too?" "Yeah." "For what it's worth, he is way more driven than I was at his age, and he is a smart kid." "Yeah, I know." "Guess I have, uh, have to have a little more faith that he'll be all right." "Is that a "yes"?" "He's brave." "I'm the one who's scared, so I can't let that get in his way." "Nice, Dad." "He's gonna be stoked." "Did you two make calls?" "You have connections in the Dominican Republic." "Yeah." "Well... we know a few guys."