"So we're meeting." "Yeah, I have his number." "Yeah, I have his number." "My high school crush..." "I had" "My high school crush..." "I had called him and told him my called him and told him my feelings." "feelings." "Just thinking that he's gonna be" "Just thinking that he's gonna be out there is kind of weird." "out there is kind of weird." "CHANDI:" "Ellamightget lucky." "CHANDI:" "Ellamightget lucky." "(laughter)" "(laughter) CAITLYN:" "Youknowwe'regoing" "CAITLYN:" "Youknowwe'regoing to Lamoni, where I went to to Lamoni, where I went to college." "college." "It is a church-affiliated" "It is a church-affiliated school." "school." "I'm quite nervous about this." "I'm quite nervous about this." "PROTESTER:" "CaitlynJenner," "PROTESTER:" "CaitlynJenner, you're an insult to all trans you're an insult to all trans people." "people." "You don't represent us." "You don't represent us." "CAITLYN:" "I amnot" "CAITLYN:" "I amnot representing you." "representing you." "I'm representing myself." "I'm representing myself." "MAN:" "Don'tyou(bleep)touch" "MAN:" "Don'tyou(bleep)touch her!" "her!" "(indistinct chatter)" "(indistinct chatter) CANDIS:" "Oh." "CANDIS:" "Oh." "Is that Hillary Clinton?" "Is that Hillary Clinton?" "Oh, my God." "Oh, my God." "Caitlyn." "Caitlyn." "CAITLYN:" "Hillary." "CHANDI:" "Hi." "CANDIS:" "Hi,howare you ?" "CANDIS:" "Hi,howare you ?" "MANICURIST:" "You,like,you" "MANICURIST:" "You,like,you  want to pick a color and we'll want to pick a color and we'll get you seated down there?" "get you seated down there?" "CHANDI:" "Okay." "CHANDI:" "Okay." "CANDIS:" "Okay." "CANDIS:" "Okay." "CAITLYN:" "Shouldwe allgofor" "CAITLYN:" "Shouldwe allgofor the same color, for solidarity?" "the same color, for solidarity?" "CHANDI:" "Oh." "CHANDI:" "Oh." "That would be great." "That would be great." "ELLA:" "I lovethatidea." "ELLA:" "I lovethatidea." "A deep red?" "A deep red?" "CAITLYN:" "See,shesaysadeep" "CAITLYN:" "See,shesaysadeep red." "red." "Do you ever go red?" "Do you ever go red?" "(Zackary laughs)" "(Zackary laughs) ZACKARY:" "Never." "ZACKARY:" "Never." "Never, never." "Never, never." "CAITLYN:" "Thenit 'stime," "CAITLYN:" "Thenit 'stime, baby." "baby." "Get out of your comfort zone." "Get out of your comfort zone." "ZACKARY:" "No,don'tmakemedo" "ZACKARY:" "No,don'tmakemedo  it!" "it!" "JENNY:" "Oh,my gosh,lookat" "JENNY:" "Oh,my gosh,lookat these chairs." "these chairs." "CAITLYN:" "Everybody,at the" "CAITLYN:" "Everybody,at the same time, turn on your same time, turn on your vibrator." "vibrator." "ZACKARY:" "Oh,oh ,yes." "ZACKARY:" "Oh,oh ,yes." "CAITLYN:" "I knowyouwill." "CAITLYN:" "I knowyouwill." "ZACKARY:" "Oh,yes." "ZACKARY:" "Oh,yes." "ELLA:" "Areyoudoingthesame?" "ELLA:" "Areyoudoingthesame?" "Doing the same color?" "Doing the same color?" "Because I..." "I, as far as," "Because I..." "I, as far as, like... like..." "ZACKARY:" "I feelparalyzedby" "ZACKARY:" "I feelparalyzedby the inability to make a the inability to make a decision." "decision." "ELLA:" "I know." "That'sperfect." "ELLA:" "I know." "That'sperfect." "I feel the same way." "I feel the same way." "ZACKARY:" "Paralyzed." "ZACKARY:" "Paralyzed." "CAITLYN:" "Youknowwe'regoing" "CAITLYN:" "Youknowwe'regoing to Lamoni... to Lamoni..." "CHANDI:" "Mm-hmm." "CHANDI:" "Mm-hmm." "CAITLYN:...uh,whereIwent" "CAITLYN:...uh,whereIwent  to college." "to college." "We're going to Iowa." "We're going to Iowa." "First, Dubuque." "First, Dubuque." "We're gonna meet this wonderful" "We're gonna meet this wonderful lady, uh, Rachel, who's really lady, uh, Rachel, who's really organized her town on gender organized her town on gender issues." "issues." "Then we're off to Des Moines," "Then we're off to Des Moines, where the Democratic debates where the Democratic debates are." "are." "Should be interesting." "Should be interesting." "And then my old alma mater," "And then my old alma mater, Graceland University." "Graceland University." "Iowa, here we come." "Iowa, here we come." "We're gonna do a presentation to" "We're gonna do a presentation to the student body." "the student body." "Now, this is a church-affiliated" "Now, this is a church-affiliated school." "school." "It's basically a branch off of" "It's basically a branch off of the Mormon religion." "the Mormon religion." "But here's the deal:" "I want to" "But here's the deal:" "I want to leave it open to the student leave it open to the student body to ask questions." "body to ask questions." "I mean, I've gotten a lot of" "I mean, I've gotten a lot of letters since coming out and out letters since coming out and out of the religious side, uh, about of the religious side, uh, about 50% are very positive." "50% are very positive." "CHANDI:" "Mm-hmm." "CHANDI:" "Mm-hmm." "CAITLYN:" "Uh,butontheother" "CAITLYN:" "Uh,butontheother  half, there's a lot of negative half, there's a lot of negative people." "people." "We've all seen it." "We've all seen it." "So they can ask any question" "So they can ask any question they want." "they want." "CHANDI:" "Youknowwegonnabe" "CHANDI:" "Youknowwegonnabe ready." "ready." "ELLA:" "Ifwe 'respeakingin" "ELLA:" "Ifwe 'respeakingin front of the student body, I am front of the student body, I am actually gonna know somebody actually gonna know somebody going there." "going there." "CAITLYN:" "Oh..." "CAITLYN:" "Oh..." "ELLA:" "Frommy highschool," "ELLA:" "Frommy highschool, yeah." "yeah." "CAITLYN:" "Noway." "CAITLYN:" "Noway." "Went from your high school?" "Went from your high school?" "ELLA:" "Yeah." "ELLA:" "Yeah." "My high school crush..." "My high school crush..." "I-I had called him, um, junior" "I-I had called him, um, junior year, before my transition, and year, before my transition, and told him my feelings." "told him my feelings." "INTERVIEWER:" "Haveyouseen" "INTERVIEWER:" "Haveyouseen him since you transitioned?" "him since you transitioned?" "ELLA:" "Um...yeah." "ELLA:" "Um...yeah." "I, um, I had been waiting for," "I, um, I had been waiting for, like, all of high school to have like, all of high school to have a class with him." "a class with him." "Then I have it, senior year," "Then I have it, senior year, after I told him liked him and I after I told him liked him and I come back as Ella, so it's this come back as Ella, so it's this whole crazy thing." "whole crazy thing." "Uh, it definitely was, like, a" "Uh, it definitely was, like, a weird... it was like, oh... weird... it was like, oh..." "'Cause I didn't know we were" "'Cause I didn't know we were going to be speaking in front of going to be speaking in front of the student body, and just the student body, and just thinking that he's going to be thinking that he's going to be out there is kind of weird." "out there is kind of weird." "JENNY:" "Areyouokay?" "JENNY:" "Areyouokay?" "Or are you feeling..." "Or are you feeling..." "You sound a little worried." "You sound a little worried." "ELLA:" "I 'm..." "I 'mkindof" "ELLA:" "I 'm..." "I 'mkindof  nervous, you know?" "nervous, you know?" "If I were to, let's say, run" "If I were to, let's say, run into him, it would be into him, it would be interesting to hear how... interesting to hear how..." "'Cause I never talked to him" "'Cause I never talked to him about it." "about it." "CANDIS:" "Howlongago was" "CANDIS:" "Howlongago was  this?" "this?" "ELLA:" "Uh,lastyear." "ELLA:" "Uh,lastyear." "CANDIS:" "Lastyear." "CANDIS:" "Lastyear." "So it's pretty recent." "So it's pretty recent." "ELLA:( bleep)'sbest..." "ELLA:( bleep)'sbest..." "sorry, that's his name." "sorry, that's his name." "(bleep)'s best friend, um," "(bleep)'s best friend, um, Michael... they're both at" "Michael... they're both at Graceland." "Graceland." "JENNY:" "They'rebothat" "JENNY:" "They'rebothat Graceland?" "Graceland?" "CAITLYN:" "Oh,they'reboth" "CAITLYN:" "Oh,they'reboth there." "there." "ELLA:" "Yeah,it 'sreally" "ELLA:" "Yeah,it 'sreally strange." "strange." "Michael, um... he was probably" "Michael, um... he was probably the only guy who wrote in my the only guy who wrote in my yearbook, and he wrote, "I hope yearbook, and he wrote, "I hope our paths cross again."" "our paths cross again." ZACKARY:" "Ooh." "ZACKARY:" "Ooh." "So this is the friend of the" "So this is the friend of the crush." "crush." "ELLA:" "Thefriend." "ELLA:" "Thefriend." "CAITLYN:" "Noway." "CAITLYN:" "Noway." "(laughter)" "(laughter) ELLA:" "Strange." "ELLA:" "Strange." "CAITLYN:" "Wegottastay" "CAITLYN:" "Wegottastay overnight in Lamoni." "overnight in Lamoni." "CHANDI:" "Yes,we gottastay" "CHANDI:" "Yes,we gottastay overnight." "overnight." "CAITLYN:" "Wecan'tjustgo" "CAITLYN:" "Wecan'tjustgo through." "I think we... through." "I think we..." "CHANDI:" "No." "CHANDI:" "No." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Ithink..." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Ithink..." "CHANDI:" "Ellamightget" "CHANDI:" "Ellamightget  lucky." "lucky." "(laughter)" "(laughter) ¶ ¶" "CAITLYN:" "Let'sdo it ." "(applause, music playing)" "(applause, music playing) MAN:" "Niceto meetyou ." "MAN:" "Niceto meetyou ." "CANDIS:" "Niceto meetyou ," "CANDIS:" "Niceto meetyou , Shannon." "Shannon." "SHANNON:" "Niceto meetyou ," "SHANNON:" "Niceto meetyou , also." "also." "CAITLYN:" "ChicagoHouse,they" "CAITLYN:" "ChicagoHouse,they asked me to come in." "asked me to come in." "They're having a big" "They're having a big fund-raiser." "fund-raiser." "It is really a great" "It is really a great organization." "organization." "They provide, uh, medical" "They provide, uh, medical services, uh, employment services, uh, employment opportunities and housing for opportunities and housing for our people who are living on the our people who are living on the streets, who have, basically, no" "streets, who have, basically, no place to go." "place to go." "And that is a huge problem in" "And that is a huge problem in this community." "this community." "Thank you." "Thank you." "(cheering)" "(cheering) It is so my pleasure to be here" "It is so my pleasure to be here for Chicago House." "for Chicago House." "My experience is not even close" "My experience is not even close to being the normal experience to being the normal experience in this community." "in this community." "Yesterday, we got the" "Yesterday, we got the opportunity to go visit a, kind opportunity to go visit a, kind of a subdivision of Chicago of a subdivision of Chicago House and it's the TransLife" "House and it's the TransLife Center, which really spotlights," "Center, which really spotlights, um, homelessness in the trans um, homelessness in the trans community." "community." "CLIENT:" "WhenIgot here,I" "CLIENT:" "WhenIgot here,I was in a dark place." "was in a dark place." "I was in a domestic" "I was in a domestic relationship." "relationship." "I was 13, he was 21." "I was 13, he was 21." "And I dated him... he beat the" "And I dated him... he beat the crap out of me." "crap out of me." "I finally got away and I started" "I finally got away and I started doing drugs and drinking a lot." "doing drugs and drinking a lot." "I mean, even trying to take care" "I mean, even trying to take care of myself... of myself..." "I started sex work." "I started sex work." "I did get raped before, and I" "I did get raped before, and I just want girls younger than me just want girls younger than me to know that you don't have to to know that you don't have to do it." "do it." "CAITLYN:" "Youknowwhat," "CAITLYN:" "Youknowwhat, everybody needs a break in life." "everybody needs a break in life." "Everybody needs a chance in" "Everybody needs a chance in life." "life." "And hopefully, by continuing on" "And hopefully, by continuing on this conversation, we can make this conversation, we can make it better for the next it better for the next generation coming up." "generation coming up." "Because there's lives at stake," "Because there's lives at stake, here." "here." "There are so many great people" "There are so many great people in this community and it's a in this community and it's a pleasure to be part of it." "pleasure to be part of it." "Thank you so much for having me" "Thank you so much for having me and letting me tell my story." "and letting me tell my story." "(cheering)" "(cheering) WOMAN:" "Huzzah!" "WOMAN:" "Huzzah!" "CAITLYN:" "Thankyou!" "(Zackary and Caitlyn whisper) CAITLYN:" "DidIdookay ?" "CAITLYN:" "DidIdookay ?" "ZACKARY:" "Youdidgreat." "ZACKARY:" "Youdidgreat." "KATE:" "Nailedit ,nailedit." "KATE:" "Nailedit ,nailedit." "CAITLYN:" "Thankyou." "PROTESTER:" "CaitlynJenner, you're an insult to all trans you're an insult to all trans people." "people." "You don't represent us." "You don't represent us." "You're a disgrace to our" "You're a disgrace to our community." "community." "You have no right to speak for" "You have no right to speak for us." "us." "You get those awards and you" "You get those awards and you dress up, but you have no idea dress up, but you have no idea what it's really like." "what it's really like." "Caitlyn Jenner, get away from" "Caitlyn Jenner, get away from us!" "us!" "We don't get jobs, we don't get" "We don't get jobs, we don't get any money, but you get all these any money, but you get all these awards." "awards." "It isn't all fun and games." "It isn't all fun and games." "You don't care about the real" "You don't care about the real trans women of America." "trans women of America." "CAITLYN:" "Waitasecond,let's" "CAITLYN:" "Waitasecond,let's go see those girls." "go see those girls." "You only care about what you" "You only care about what you look like on TV." "look like on TV." "We don't need you, we don't want" "We don't need you, we don't want you." "you." "We don't want you here." "We don't want you here." "You don't speak for us." "You don't speak for us." "We didn't ask for your help." "We didn't ask for your help." "(indistinct shouting)" "(indistinct shouting) CHANDI:" "Whatareyou doing," "CHANDI:" "Whatareyou doing, though, girl, what are you though, girl, what are you doing?" "doing?" "CAITLYN:" "I 'mnotrepresenting" "CAITLYN:" "I 'mnotrepresenting you." "you." "I'm representing myself." "I'm representing myself." "PROTESTER:" "Donottouchme!" "PROTESTER:" "Donottouchme!" "MAN:" "Donottouchher!" "MAN:" "Donottouchher!" "Don't you (bleep) touch her!" "Don't you (bleep) touch her!" "KATE:" "We'regoingtothe" "KATE:" "We'regoingtothe Democratic debate tonight." "Democratic debate tonight." "It's time to address the" "It's time to address the elephant in the room." "elephant in the room." "CAITLYN:" "Whyis everybody" "CAITLYN:" "Whyis everybody looking at me?" "looking at me?" "ELLA:" "Hemessagedback." "ELLA:" "Hemessagedback." "So we're meeting." "So we're meeting." "Yeah, I have his number." "Yeah, I have his number." "I don't know what people would" "I don't know what people would think, seeing one of the think, seeing one of the football players sitting at football players sitting at lunch with Ella." "(ENG" "PROTESTER:" "Wedon'twantyou." "We don't want you here." "We don't want you here." "You don't speak for us." "You don't speak for us." "We didn't ask for your help." "We didn't ask for your help." "(shouting indistinctly)" "(shouting indistinctly) CHANDI:" "Whatareyou doing," "CHANDI:" "Whatareyou doing, though, girl, what are you though, girl, what are you doing?" "doing?" "CAITLYN:" "I 'mnotrepresenting" "CAITLYN:" "I 'mnotrepresenting you." "you." "I'm representing myself." "I'm representing myself." "PROTESTER:" "Donottouchme!" "PROTESTER:" "Donottouchme!" "MAN:" "Donottouchher!" "MAN:" "Donottouchher!" "Don't you (bleep) touch her!" "Don't you (bleep) touch her!" "Don't you (bleep) touch her!" "Don't you (bleep) touch her!" "CHANDI:" "Leave!" "CHANDI:" "Leave!" "MAN:" "Whatthe(bleep)is" "MAN:" "Whatthe(bleep)is this?" "this?" "CHANDI:" "Leave!" "CHANDI:" "Leave!" "PROTESTER:" "I respectyour" "PROTESTER:" "I respectyour transitioning but it's different transitioning but it's different than what I've experienced." "than what I've experienced." "CAITLYN:" "I totallyagree,and" "CAITLYN:" "I totallyagree,and  I'm not trying to represent you," "I'm not trying to represent you, too." "too." "PROTESTER:" "I wantajob ,too ." "PROTESTER:" "I wantajob ,too ." "CAITLYN:" "I wouldlovefor" "CAITLYN:" "I wouldlovefor  you... you..." "PROTESTER:" "I can'tgetone" "PROTESTER:" "I can'tgetone  because I'm trans and I'm black." "because I'm trans and I'm black." "CAITLYN:" "I wouldlovefor you" "CAITLYN:" "I wouldlovefor you  to have a job and I'm trying to to have a job and I'm trying to help people so they understand help people so they understand better." "better." "BODYGUARD:" "Policewantusto" "BODYGUARD:" "Policewantusto get in the car." "get in the car." "CAITLYN:" "Haveagoodday." "CAITLYN:" "Haveagoodday." "(protesters shouting)" "(protesters shouting) WOMAN:" "Everybodyin thevan ." "WOMAN:" "Everybodyin thevan ." "This way." "This way." "WOMAN2 :" "Ignorethem." "WOMAN2 :" "Ignorethem." "They're full of (bleep)." "They're full of (bleep)." "CHANDI:" "Baby,youcan 'teven" "CHANDI:" "Baby,youcan 'teven show your face, so how are you show your face, so how are you gonna speak about what's an gonna speak about what's an insult to our community and you insult to our community and you can't even represent yourself" "can't even represent yourself and show who you are?" "and show who you are?" "What are you doing to further" "What are you doing to further our community?" "our community?" "If you're out here, willing to" "If you're out here, willing to invest your energy and your time invest your energy and your time into trying to tear someone into trying to tear someone down, you could be using that down, you could be using that same energy to lift someone up," "same energy to lift someone up, and you're not doing anything, and you're not doing anything, so what-what is the issue?" "so what-what is the issue?" "KATE:" "Alltranspeopleare" "KATE:" "All trans people are convinced they have  the  truth convinced they have  the  truth about trans, and nobody else is about trans, and nobody else is trans but them." "trans but them." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "Right." "Yeah." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "Right." "Yeah." "KATE:" "Uh,youknow?" "KATE:" "Uh,youknow?" "JENNY:" "You'redoingitwrong." "JENNY:" "You'redoingitwrong." "CAITLYN:" "I ..." "I wastrying" "CAITLYN:" "I ..." "I wastrying to calm her down." "to calm her down." ""Calm down, calm down, calm" ""Calm down, calm down, calm down," you know?" "down," you know?" "JENNY:" "Itwasthe firsttime" "JENNY:" "Itwasthe firsttime  for Caitlyn that she saw, in the for Caitlyn that she saw, in the flesh, people's reservations flesh, people's reservations about her." "about her." "Um, and I think that's actually" "Um, and I think that's actually good for her." "good for her." "There are a lot of people with" "There are a lot of people with very, um, reasonable objections very, um, reasonable objections to her privilege, um, maybe her to her privilege, um, maybe her sense of womanhood or politics." "sense of womanhood or politics." "You know, Caitlyn is a public" "You know, Caitlyn is a public figure for transgender people, figure for transgender people, but she's a problematic figure, but she's a problematic figure, and she needs to pay attention." "CAITLYN:" "Timeto getout of here." "here." "Going back to good old Iowa." "Going back to good old Iowa." "(Ella sighs)" "(Ella sighs) ELLA:" "Thebus." "ELLA:" "Thebus." "CHANDI:" "Hey!" "CHANDI:" "Hey!" "MIMI:" "Sothisisit." "MIMI:" "Sothisisit." "CANDIS:" "SoMimiisfrom Iowa ," "CANDIS:" "SoMimiisfrom Iowa , and I thought it would be really and I thought it would be really cool if she came along." "cool if she came along." "I don't get to see her very" "I don't get to see her very often." "often." "So any time spent with my" "So any time spent with my sister, I'm all for." "sister, I'm all for." "ZACKARY:" "Hi,everyone." "ZACKARY:" "Hi,everyone." "I had this dream." "I had this dream." "I was on this trip with, like," "I was on this trip with, like, two serial killers." "two serial killers." "(Zackary laughs)" "(Zackary laughs) KATE:" "Stopit ." "KATE:" "Stopit ." "ZACKARY:" "I had,like,this" "ZACKARY:" "I had,like,this crazy nightmare." "crazy nightmare." "CAITLYN:" "I know,Ihatethat ." "CAITLYN:" "I know,Ihatethat ." "Next on the stop, we're going to" "Next on the stop, we're going to Dubuque, Iowa." "Dubuque, Iowa." "I live in Los Angeles." "I live in Los Angeles." "Tons of resources." "Tons of resources." "People to help, programs to" "People to help, programs to help." "help." "But what happens if you're in" "But what happens if you're in Dubuque, Iowa, and you're trans?" "Dubuque, Iowa, and you're trans?" "What programs are available to" "What programs are available to you?" "you?" "¶ ¶" "¶ ¶ Oh, my God, look at this town." "Oh, my God, look at this town." "ELLA:" "IsthisDubuque?" "ELLA:" "IsthisDubuque?" "KATE:" "MainStreet,USA ." "KATE:" "MainStreet,USA ." "CAITLYN:" "Smellit ?" "CAITLYN:" "Smellit ?" "MIMI:" "I 'vebeenthrough" "MIMI:" "I 'vebeenthrough this... these roads right here this... these roads right here many times." "many times." "ZACKARY:" "Oh,it 'sso cute." "ZACKARY:" "Oh,it 'sso cute." "Gorgeous." "Gorgeous." "CAITLYN:" "Ah,thesweetsmell" "CAITLYN:" "Ah,thesweetsmell of Iowa." "of Iowa." "(laughing)" "(laughing) CHANDI:" "Wemadeitto" "CHANDI:" "Wemadeitto Dubuque." "Dubuque." "ZACKARY:" "I-Iloveitalready." "ZACKARY:" "I-Iloveitalready." "CAITLYN:" "I know." "CAITLYN:" "I know." "ELLA:" "Let'sgo shop." "ELLA:" "Let'sgo shop." "COURTNEY:" Lingerieand" "COURTNEY:" Lingerieand jammies."" "jammies." ELLA( laughing):" "Lingerie." "ELLA( laughing):" "Lingerie." "COURTNEY:" "Lingerie." "COURTNEY:" "Lingerie." "Let's go there." "Let's go there." "ELLA:" "Thisway?" "ELLA:" "Thisway?" "COURTNEY:" "Yeah." "Firststop." "COURTNEY:" "Yeah." "Firststop." "JENNY:" "Wait,whyare we" "JENNY:" "Wait,whyare we buying lingerie?" "buying lingerie?" "ELLA:" "Whynot?" "ELLA:" "Whynot?" "KATE:" "Whynot?" "KATE:" "Whynot?" "Silly question." "Silly question." "CANDIS:" "Jenny,do youhave" "CANDIS:" "Jenny,do youhave any lingerie?" "any lingerie?" "Like, for... for Deedie?" "Like, for... for Deedie?" "JENNY:" "Um,Ihave..." "Ihave" "JENNY:" "Um,Ihave..." "Ihave lots of flannel." "lots of flannel." "(Mimi laughs)" "(Mimi laughs) I have logs of gingham." "I have logs of gingham." "CANDIS:" "Wait,Ithinkthe" "CANDIS:" "Wait,Ithinkthe pink and black would be good for pink and black would be good for you." "Yeah." "you." "Yeah." "JENNY:" "Youthink...you think" "JENNY:" "Youthink...you think it would... kind of, open up a it would... kind of, open up a new door for me?" "new door for me?" "CANDIS:" "Yeah,Ithinkweneed" "CANDIS:" "Yeah,Ithinkweneed to..." "Yeah." "to..." "Yeah." "JENNY:" "Uh,it looks" "JENNY:" "Uh,it looks tremendously comfortable." "tremendously comfortable." "CANDIS:" "Look-it,lookathow" "CANDIS:" "Look-it,lookathow gorgeous, these thigh-high gorgeous, these thigh-high stockings." "stockings." "JENNY:" "Ohyeah,'cause,you" "JENNY:" "Ohyeah,'cause,you know, I could wear these when know, I could wear these when I'm shoveling snow." "I'm shoveling snow." "You know, for me..." "lingerie" "You know, for me..." "lingerie is... is not simple." "is... is not simple." "(chuckles)" "(chuckles) It's a fairly complicated thing." "It's a fairly complicated thing." "CANDIS:" "Buthaveyou ever" "CANDIS:" "Buthaveyou ever worn a garter?" "worn a garter?" "JENNY:" "I 'mtryingto think." "JENNY:" "I 'mtryingto think." "I think..." "I think one time when" "I think..." "I think one time when I was bear hunting'." "I was bear hunting'." "(Candis laughs)" "(Candis laughs) CANDIS:" "Goddamnyou." "CANDIS:" "Goddamnyou." "JENNY:" "ButIkindoflike" "JENNY:" "ButIkindoflike this." "this." "(Candis laughs)" "(Candis laughs) CANDIS:" "AndI'msureDeedie" "CANDIS:" "AndI'msureDeedie will too." "will too." "CAITLYN:" "I thinkthereare" "CAITLYN:" "I thinkthereare  some wild things going on in some wild things going on in Dubuque." "Dubuque." "ELLA:" "I thinkso too." "ELLA:" "I thinkso too." "COURTNEY:" "Well,let's..." "COURTNEY:" "Well,let's..." "let's participate." "JENNY:" "Isit me ?" "It could be." "ZACKARY:" "JennyBoylan'sgot a secret." "secret." "JENNY:" "Oh,Idon 'tknow" "JENNY:" "Oh,Idon 'tknow what you're t... what you're t..." "ZACKARY:" "She'sgotanaughty" "ZACKARY:" "She'sgotanaughty secret." "secret." "JENNY:" "I gotsomecandles." "JENNY:" "I gotsomecandles." "I got some candles and some, uh," "I got some candles and some, uh, playing cards." "CAITLYN:" "I thinkwhatall the  girls should sample-- their girls should sample-- their first time with mountain first time with mountain oysters." "oysters." "CANDIS:" "Oh,whatisthat ?" "CANDIS:" "Oh,whatisthat ?" "Something weird." "Something weird." "Like, balls or something." "Like, balls or something." "(laughing)" "(laughing) Isn't it balls?" "Isn't it balls?" "CAITLYN:" "Bulls'testicles." "CAITLYN:" "Bulls'testicles." "CANDIS:" "Yes." "CANDIS:" "Yes." "CHANDI:" "Let'snotand say we" "CHANDI:" "Let'snotand say we did." "did." "ZACKARY:" "Yeah." "ZACKARY:" "Yeah." "CHANDI:" "Yeah." "CHANDI:" "Yeah." "KIP:" "I liketheway you" "KIP:" "I liketheway you  think, Chandi." "think, Chandi." "CHANDI:" "Right." "CHANDI:" "Right." "CAITLYN:" "Comeon in !" "CAITLYN:" "Comeon in !" "Hello, babe." "Hello, babe." "RACHAEL:" "Hi." "Howare you ?" "RACHAEL:" "Hi." "Howare you ?" "CAITLYN:" "Haveaseatright" "CAITLYN:" "Haveaseatright here." "here." "These are all the girls." "These are all the girls." "RACHAEL:" "Hello,gang." "RACHAEL:" "Hello,gang." "Nice to meet you." "Nice to meet you." "CAITLYN:" "Now,youprobably" "CAITLYN:" "Now,youprobably have never had this many girls have never had this many girls like us in this town... like us in this town..." "RACHAEL:" "Yeah,no ." "RACHAEL:" "Yeah,no ." "This-this is a first, for sure." "This-this is a first, for sure." "CAITLYN:" "Isn'tthatgood?" "CAITLYN:" "Isn'tthatgood?" "Yay!" "Yay!" "RACHAEL:" "Great." "RACHAEL:" "Great." "CAITLYN:" "I likefirsts." "CAITLYN:" "I likefirsts." "RACHAEL:" "Niceto seeyou all ." "RACHAEL:" "Niceto seeyou all ." "Yeah." "Yeah." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Ilikefirsts." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,Ilikefirsts." "JENNY:" "Sowhatare we...what" "JENNY:" "Sowhatare we...what  are gonna do tonight?" "are gonna do tonight?" "RACHAEL:" "Well,Iwas adealer" "RACHAEL:" "Well,Iwas adealer at the casino" " I still am-- and at the casino" " I still am-- and we're gonna have some blackjack we're gonna have some blackjack tables." "tables." "You're gonna get to deal to the" "You're gonna get to deal to the people in Dubuque." "people in Dubuque." "CANDIS:" "Howradisthat ?" "CANDIS:" "Howradisthat ?" "That's like a Bond movie." "That's like a Bond movie." "(laughs)" "(laughs) RACHAEL:" "Oneof my doctors" "RACHAEL:" "Oneof my doctors mentioned to me when I was going mentioned to me when I was going through transition here in through transition here in Dubuque, uh, why didn't I move" "Dubuque, uh, why didn't I move to somewhere larger that I might to somewhere larger that I might be more accepted there?" "be more accepted there?" "I was pretty much the only one" "I was pretty much the only one in this area when I came out." "in this area when I came out." "Um, and I said, "Because people" "Um, and I said, "Because people need to be aware that there's need to be aware that there's transgender people everywhere."" "transgender people everywhere." ¶ ¶" "¶ ¶ So I knew that's why I had to" "So I knew that's why I had to stay here in Dubuque." "stay here in Dubuque." "CAITLYN:" "Youarejustagutsy" "CAITLYN:" "Youarejustagutsy  little thing, aren't you?" "little thing, aren't you?" "I love that." "I love that." "Yeah." "Yeah." "¶ ¶" "KATE:" "Usuallywhatchangesa person's mind about trans in person's mind about trans in general is the moment they meet general is the moment they meet a trans person." "a trans person." "So Caitlyn and all of us ladies" "So Caitlyn and all of us ladies in tow coming to Dubuque, now in tow coming to Dubuque, now they got to meet... any number they got to meet... any number of us and see that... we're" "of us and see that... we're sweet." "sweet." "CAITLYN:" "Putyourmoneyon" "CAITLYN:" "Putyourmoneyon the table." "the table." "Let's go." "Let's go." "Are you ready?" "Are you ready?" "I'm taking your money." "I'm taking your money." "RACHAEL:" "Okay,let'sdealyou" "RACHAEL:" "Okay,let'sdealyou up and you up." "up and you up." "And then we flip one over." "And then we flip one over." "KATE:" "Justwantyou toknow" "KATE:" "Justwantyou toknow  I've been counting cards." "I've been counting cards." "(laughing)" "(laughing) CHANDI:" "I 'llbebrokeina" "CHANDI:" "I 'llbebrokeina  minute." "minute." "RACHEL:" "I 'mRachel." "RACHEL:" "I 'mRachel." "By the way, welcome to Dubuque." "By the way, welcome to Dubuque." "CAITLYN:" "Niceto meetyou ," "CAITLYN:" "Niceto meetyou , Rachel; come on in the middle." "Rachel; come on in the middle." "You get in the middle." "You get in the middle." "(camera shutter clicks)" "(camera shutter clicks) You got it." "You got it." "Thank you." "Nice to meet you." "Thank you." "Nice to meet you." "RACHEL:" "Hey,thankyou ." "RACHEL:" "Hey,thankyou ." "LIZZIE:" "I 'm,like,gender" "LIZZIE:" "I 'm,like,gender fluid, and I'm kind of having fluid, and I'm kind of having trouble, like, coming out." "trouble, like, coming out." "CAITLYN:" "With-withwhat?" "CAITLYN:" "With-withwhat?" "With coming out?" "With coming out?" "LIZZIE:" "Yeah,andIjust ..." "LIZZIE:" "Yeah,andIjust ..." "CAITLYN:" "Howoldare you ?" "CAITLYN:" "Howoldare you ?" "LIZZIE:" "I 'm13." "LIZZIE:" "I 'm13." "CAITLYN:" "You'rehowlong?" "CAITLYN:" "You'rehowlong?" "LIZZIE:13." "LIZZIE:13." "¶ ¶" "¶ ¶ CAITLYN:" "Surroundyourself" "CAITLYN:" "Surroundyourself with positive people." "with positive people." "Uplifting people." "Uplifting people." "People who want to see you do" "People who want to see you do well." "well." "Anybody give you any trash in" "Anybody give you any trash in your life, get them the hell out your life, get them the hell out of your life." "of your life." "There's a lot of great, loving" "There's a lot of great, loving people out there." "people out there." "Pick your friends wisely." "Pick your friends wisely." "Be yourself." "Be yourself." "LIZZIE:" "Thatwasreally" "LIZZIE:" "Thatwasreally amazing meeting Caitlyn." "amazing meeting Caitlyn." "She's such an inspiration to" "She's such an inspiration to everyone in the LGBT community." "everyone in the LGBT community." "I just wanted to thank her so" "I just wanted to thank her so much for being herself." "much for being herself." "CAITLYN:" "Lookat allthese" "CAITLYN:" "Lookat allthese people in this room." "people in this room." "You know, there's so many good" "You know, there's so many good people out there." "people out there." "Find the right ones." "Find the right ones." "Life will be good." "Life will be good." "LIZZIE:" "I 'msogladIgotto" "LIZZIE:" "I 'msogladIgotto meet her, and it was just one of meet her, and it was just one of the best days of my life." "the best days of my life." "CAITLYN:" "Yougotit." "CAITLYN:" "Yougotit." "Good luck to you." "Good luck to you." "LIZZIE:" "Thanks." "LIZZIE:" "Thanks." "CAITLYN:" "Okay?" "Let's move it." "CANDIS:" "Let'smoveitout." "CANDIS:" "Let'smoveitout." "JENNY:" "Good-bye,Dubuque." "JENNY:" "Good-bye,Dubuque." "CANDIS:" "Good-bye,Dubuque." "CANDIS:" "Good-bye,Dubuque." "JENNY:" "Howdy,DesMoines." "JENNY:" "Howdy,DesMoines." "KATE:" "May...mayIkindly" "KATE:" "May...mayIkindly have your attention, please." "have your attention, please." "We're approaching Des Moines." "We're approaching Des Moines." "Um, it's time to address the" "Um, it's time to address the elephant in the room." "elephant in the room." "We're going to the Democratic..." "We're going to the Democratic..." "CAITLYN:" "There'san elephant" "CAITLYN:" "There'san elephant in the room?" "in the room?" "KATE:" "Thereis an elephantin" "KATE:" "Thereis an elephantin the room, Miss Caitlyn, there the room, Miss Caitlyn, there is." "is." "We're going to the Democratic" "We're going to the Democratic debate tonight, and... there debate tonight, and... there we're gonna be sitting in a room we're gonna be sitting in a room with young Republicans... and with young Republicans... and young Democrats." "young Democrats." "I would like to see if we can" "I would like to see if we can come to some agreed-upon come to some agreed-upon guidelines so that the firestorm guidelines so that the firestorm last time in Santa Fe... last time in Santa Fe..." "CAITLYN:" "Hey!" "Okay..." "CAITLYN:" "Hey!" "Okay..." "KATE:...doesn'thappen" "KATE:...doesn'thappen again." "again." "I would like to suggest a" "I would like to suggest a safeword." "safeword." "Like, if I blow up or go," "Like, if I blow up or go, "Gah!" "I hate Trump!"" ""Gah!" "I hate Trump!" You're not allowed to say it" "You're not allowed to say it like that." "like that." "Safeword: "God bless America."" "Safeword: "God bless America." CANDIS:" "GodblessAmerica." "CANDIS:" "GodblessAmerica." "JENNY:" "GodblessAmerica." "JENNY:" "GodblessAmerica." "In other words..." "In other words..." "ALL:¶ GodblessAmerica" "ALL:¶ GodblessAmerica Our home sweet home... ¶" "(clapping, whooping) CAITLYN:" "Great!" "CAITLYN:" "Great!" "KATE:" "Soanyoneof...inthis" "KATE:" "Soanyoneof...inthis group says, "God bless America,"" "group says, "God bless America," we immediately go, "Holy we immediately go, "Holy (bleep), am I being off the" "(bleep), am I being off the wall?"" "wall?" And we back... back down." "And we back... back down." "CAITLYN:" "Whyis everybody" "CAITLYN:" "Whyis everybody looking at me?" "looking at me?" "CANDIS:" "Inaroomfull of" "CANDIS:" "Inaroomfull of people we don't know, we don't people we don't know, we don't want to insult anybody there." "want to insult anybody there." "We don't want to get into fights" "We don't want to get into fights with the Republicans." "with the Republicans." "We don't want to get into fights" "We don't want to get into fights with the Democrats, Caitlyn." "with the Democrats, Caitlyn." "JENNY:" "Let'salsotakeinto" "JENNY:" "Let'salsotakeinto  account that college students... account that college students..." "CAITLYN:" "We're,we haveto" "CAITLYN:" "We're,we haveto show ourselves as higher human show ourselves as higher human beings." "beings." "CANDIS:" "Exactly." "CANDIS:" "Exactly." "CAITLYN:" "That'sright." "CAITLYN:" "That'sright." "KATE:" "We've,we 'vebeensuch" "KATE:" "We've,we 'vebeensuch a loving group, and I would like a loving group, and I would like to see us continue that under to see us continue that under what could be some stress." "what could be some stress." "CANDIS:" "I 'ma littlenervous," "CANDIS:" "I 'ma littlenervous, uh, that-that Caitlyn will not uh, that-that Caitlyn will not be able to meet in the middle be able to meet in the middle when it comes to her political when it comes to her political beliefs, because I think people" "beliefs, because I think people don't really want to hear about don't really want to hear about Caitlyn being a Republican." "Caitlyn being a Republican." "And so it makes me nervous that" "And so it makes me nervous that she's gonna go off on a rant she's gonna go off on a rant and, um, I won't know how to and, um, I won't know how to protect her from that." "protect her from that." "CAITLYN:" "I 'mpracticingright" "CAITLYN:" "I 'mpracticingright now by keeping my mouth shut." "now by keeping my mouth shut." "(laughter)" "(laughter) (indistinct chatter)" "(indistinct chatter) CANDIS:" "IsthatHillary" "CANDIS:" "IsthatHillary Clinton?" "Clinton?" "Caitlyn." "Caitlyn." "CAITLYN:" "Hedoesn'treally" "CAITLYN:" "Hedoesn'treally appreciate this country." "appreciate this country." "KATE:" "GodblessAmerica." "KATE:" "GodblessAmerica." "God bless America." "God bless America." "Now you're talking someone down." "Now you're talking someone down." "(sighs)" "CANDIS:" "Lookat thepup ,the  bulldog." "bulldog." "LUCILLE:" "Hi,I'mLucillefrom" "LUCILLE:" "Hi,I'mLucillefrom  Drake University." "Drake University." "Welcome back." "Welcome back." "CAITLYN:" "It'snice" "CAITLYN:" "It'snice to meet you, thank you." "to meet you, thank you." "LUCILLE:" "It'snice" "LUCILLE:" "It'snice to meet you as well." "to meet you as well." "CAITLYN:" "Thankyou." "CAITLYN:" "Thankyou." "The Democratic debates are at" "The Democratic debates are at Drake University in Des Moines," "Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa." "Iowa." "In 1970, at that university, I" "In 1970, at that university, I ran my first decathlon." "ran my first decathlon." "(oohs and ahs)" "(oohs and ahs) CANDIS:1978inductee." "CANDIS:1978inductee." "COURTNEY:" "Holywow..." "COURTNEY:" "Holywow..." "CAITLYN:" "This,thisiswhere" "CAITLYN:" "This,thisiswhere I ran my first ever decathlon." "I ran my first ever decathlon." "(oohs and ahs)" "(oohs and ahs) CANDIS:" "Thisis whereitall" "CANDIS:" "Thisis whereitall began." "began." "CAITLYN:" "Thisis theold" "CAITLYN:" "Thisis theold  place." "place." "Oh, my God, no!" "Oh, my God, no!" "Oh, the old, the old Drake" "Oh, the old, the old Drake Relays." "Relays." "There we go, baby!" "There we go, baby!" "You know, even though I'm" "You know, even though I'm transitioned and my life is so transitioned and my life is so different today, I'm proud of different today, I'm proud of that aspect of my life." "that aspect of my life." "COURTNEY:" "Shouldwe allline" "COURTNEY:" "Shouldwe allline up like we're racing?" "up like we're racing?" "CAITLYN:" "No.(stammers)" "CAITLYN:" "No.(stammers) You'll be okay, don't worry." "You'll be okay, don't worry." "I don't want you to hurt" "I don't want you to hurt yourself." "yourself." "JENNY:" "I 'mnotmoving." "JENNY:" "I 'mnotmoving." "I'm just getting down." "I'm just getting down." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,well,I'm" "CAITLYN:" "Okay,well,I'm  hoping you can get back up hoping you can get back up again-- that's the problem." "again-- that's the problem." "CHANDI:" "Right." "CHANDI:" "Right." "CAITLYN:" "Youknowwhere" "CAITLYN:" "Youknowwhere the debates are?" "the debates are?" "They're right here." "They're right here." "So we got to get home," "So we got to get home, back and get changed?" "back and get changed?" "CHANDI:" "Yeah!" "CHANDI:" "Yeah!" "CAITLYN:" "Let'sgetitgoing!" "CAITLYN:" "Let'sgetitgoing!" "CHANDI:" "Let'sdo it !" "CHANDI:" "Let'sdo it !" "(crickets trilling)" "(indistinct chatter) MAN:" "So,we 'llgiveyou afew" "MAN:" "So,we 'llgiveyou afew instructions to get started." "instructions to get started." "Over here on the tables, you can" "Over here on the tables, you can make your name tags." "make your name tags." "Um, we have blue if you identify" "Um, we have blue if you identify as Democrat, red for Republicans as Democrat, red for Republicans and white for anything else." "and white for anything else." "ZACKARY:" "Thiswillbefun" "ZACKARY:" "Thiswillbefun tonight." "tonight." "It will be interesting." "It will be interesting." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah," "CAITLYN:" "Yeah, it should be fun." "it should be fun." "ZACKARY:" "Youknow?" "ZACKARY:" "Youknow?" "CAITLYN:" "Seeallthe free" "CAITLYN:" "Seeallthe free stuff Hillary's gonna give out." "stuff Hillary's gonna give out." "You know, it's gonna be good." "You know, it's gonna be good." "ZACKARY:" "Whatdo youmean" "ZACKARY:" "Whatdo youmean "free stuff"?" ""free stuff"?" "CAITLYN:" "Well,that's" "CAITLYN:" "Well,that's all she does." "all she does." "ZACKARY:" "Uh-huh." "ZACKARY:" "Uh-huh." "CAITLYN:" "Uh,sheneversays" "CAITLYN:" "Uh,sheneversays  how we're gonna pay for it, how we're gonna pay for it, but... but..." "ZACKARY:" "Yeah?" "ZACKARY:" "Yeah?" "Caitlyn's conservative politics" "Caitlyn's conservative politics are a concern for all of us." "are a concern for all of us." "And I wonder how she'll be" "And I wonder how she'll be received." "received." "MAN:" "Allright,everyone,uh," "MAN:" "Allright,everyone,uh, it's just a couple of minutes it's just a couple of minutes until the debate starts, so if until the debate starts, so if you want to find your seats." "you want to find your seats." "Remember if you want to sit on" "Remember if you want to sit on the Democratic side, it's over the Democratic side, it's over here, the Independent side is in here, the Independent side is in the middle and the Republicans the middle and the Republicans over there." "over there." "CAITLYN:" "Hi!" "CAITLYN:" "Hi!" "CHANDI:" "Hi,Cait!" "CHANDI:" "Hi,Cait!" "CANDIS:" "Hi!" "CANDIS:" "Hi!" "CHANDI:" "Hi!" "CHANDI:" "Hi!" "KATE:" "I 'ma Republican" "KATE:" "I 'ma Republican tonight." "tonight." "CHANDI:" "Okay,go AuntieKate!" "CHANDI:" "Okay,go AuntieKate!" "MAN:" "PleasewelcometoDrake" "MAN:" "PleasewelcometoDrake University, former Secretary of" "University, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton." "State Hillary Clinton." "(applause)" "(applause) (Caitlyn boos)" "(Caitlyn boos) Senator Bernie Sanders of" "Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont." "Vermont." "(cheering)" "(cheering) CAITLYN:" "JustlikeObama,he" "CAITLYN:" "JustlikeObama,he doesn't really appreciate this doesn't really appreciate this country." "country." "KATE:" "GodblessAmerica." "KATE:" "GodblessAmerica." "God bless America." "God bless America." "Now you're talking someone down." "Now you're talking someone down." "I haven't said that all..." "I haven't said that all..." "CAITLYN:" "I 'mtalkinghis" "CAITLYN:" "I 'mtalkinghis policy, but I'm saying his policy, but I'm saying his policies." "policies." "KATE:" "Wait,wait,wait,wait ." "KATE:" "Wait,wait,wait,wait ." "CAITLYN:" "Butthinkaboutit" "CAITLYN:" "Butthinkaboutit--  KATE:" "GodblessAmerica." "KATE:" "GodblessAmerica." "Please don't get angry at Obama" "Please don't get angry at Obama or any particular person and I or any particular person and I won't, either." "won't, either." "(sighs)" "(sighs) ELLA:" "WhoputKateandCait" "ELLA:" "WhoputKateandCait next to each other?" "next to each other?" "(laughter)" "(laughter) MAN:" "SenatorSanders," "MAN:" "SenatorSanders, in a previous debate, you said in a previous debate, you said the greatest threat to national the greatest threat to national security was climate change." "security was climate change." "Do you still believe that?" "Do you still believe that?" "KATE:" "Whatdo youthinkabout" "KATE:" "Whatdo youthinkabout that?" "that?" "CAITLYN:" "No,Idon 't" "CAITLYN:" "No,Idon 't understand that." "understand that." "KATE:" "I don'tthinkso," "KATE:" "I don'tthinkso,  either." "either." "CAITLYN:" "He'san idiot." "CAITLYN:" "He'san idiot." "KATE:" "No,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ." "KATE:" "No,no ,no ,no ,no ,no ." "CAITLYN:" "Sorry,sorry." "CAITLYN:" "Sorry,sorry." "KATE:" "Whathe justsaidwas" "KATE:" "Whathe justsaidwas stupid, I agree." "stupid, I agree." "CAITLYN:" "He'smisinformed." "CAITLYN:" "He'smisinformed." "KATE:" "I agree." "KATE:" "I agree." "You pull back a little" "You pull back a little and I agree that... and I agree that..." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,okay." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,okay." "KATE:...withwhatyou" "KATE:...withwhatyou  just said." "just said." "CAITLYN:" "I likethis." "CAITLYN:" "I likethis." "Okay, great." "Okay, great." "KATE:" "Yeah,really." "KATE:" "Yeah,really." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,I'llget it." "CAITLYN:" "Okay,I'llget it." "KATE:" "Okay." "KATE:" "Okay." "CAITLYN:" "Thishasbeena" "CAITLYN:" "Thishasbeena very, very good conversation." "very, very good conversation." "KATE:" "Itis ." "KATE:" "Itis ." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah." "KATE:" "I 'm-I'mgoingyay." "KATE:" "I 'm-I'mgoingyay." "I-I give her a B-plus for really" "I-I give her a B-plus for really trying to listen and-and trying to listen and-and communicate." "communicate." "I think we really are coming to" "I think we really are coming to a point where we can talk with a point where we can talk with each other." "each other." "I mean, you saw what happened in" "I mean, you saw what happened in Santa Fe-- we could not talk" "Santa Fe-- we could not talk with each other." "with each other." "I had to leave the room." "I had to leave the room." "I have not had to leave the room" "I have not had to leave the room and I've only had to sing "God and I've only had to sing "God Bless America" three times." "Bless America" three times." "(applause)" "(applause) MAN:" "I wantto asksomeof" "MAN:" "I wantto asksomeof guests that are with us today guests that are with us today what do you think's been good so what do you think's been good so far and what would you maybe far and what would you maybe critique?" "critique?" "CANDIS:" "I thinkpeopleare" "CANDIS:" "I thinkpeopleare  being a little tough on Hillary, being a little tough on Hillary, personally." "personally." "JENNY:" "I 'dbehappytohave" "JENNY:" "I 'dbehappytohave  any of these people as any of these people as president." "president." "MAN:" "Okay,Caitlyn,doyou," "MAN:" "Okay,Caitlyn,doyou,  you got a red one, so from the you got a red one, so from the Republican side..." "Republican side..." "(laughter)" "(laughter) CAITLYN:" "Comingouttranswas" "CAITLYN:" "Comingouttranswas like nothing, until I said I was like nothing, until I said I was a Republican." "a Republican." "Um, it's kind of an interesting" "Um, it's kind of an interesting situation for me." "situation for me." "They keep talking about the top" "They keep talking about the top 1%, the top one-- 1%, the top one-- Oh, these terrible people, okay?" "Oh, these terrible people, okay?" "I'm in the top 1%." "I'm in the top 1%." "I don't even have Obamacare and" "I don't even have Obamacare and I had to put $450,000 in there." "I had to put $450,000 in there." "The healthcare's going to be" "The healthcare's going to be worse, so I think we need a worse, so I think we need a better tax structure." "better tax structure." "(Chandi singing "God Bless" "(Chandi singing "God Bless America")" "America") CAITLYN:" "Oh,Iknow,allmy" "CAITLYN:" "Oh,Iknow,allmy girls down here." "girls down here." "I got all my girls down here!" "I got all my girls down here!" "How we settle all our problems" "How we settle all our problems at the end-- are you ready?" "at the end-- are you ready?" "ALL:¶ GodblessAmerica.¶" "ALL:¶ GodblessAmerica.¶ CAITLYN:" "That'sit ,okay." "CAITLYN:" "That'sit ,okay." "But that's how we settle it," "But that's how we settle it, because we all love our country." "because we all love our country." "MAN:" "Thankyou." "MAN:" "Thankyou." "(crowd cheering)" "(crowd cheering) (all singing "God Bless" "(all singing "God Bless America")" "America") CAITLYN:" "ButI'mbeingvery" "CAITLYN:" "ButI'mbeingvery  good!" "good!" "KATE:" "Youare,you are ," "KATE:" "Youare,you are , you are, you are." "you are, you are." "CAITLYN:" "Aren'tIdoinggood ?" "CAITLYN:" "Aren'tIdoinggood ?" "KATE:" "You're" "KATE:" "You're doing much better." "doing much better." "CAITLYN:" "Thankyou." "CAITLYN:" "Thankyou." "CANDIS:" "You'redoinggreat." "(indistinct chatter)" "CANDIS:" "IsthatHillary Clinton?" "Clinton?" "Oh, my God!" "Oh, my God!" "Caitlyn." "Caitlyn." "CAITLYN:" "Hillary." "CAITLYN:" "Hillary." "It is a church-affiliated" "It is a church-affiliated school." "school." "So, Chandi, if we say something" "So, Chandi, if we say something and they come after you... and they come after you..." "CHANDI:" "I can'tjustsit" "CHANDI:" "I can'tjustsit  there and-and-and take that." "there and-and-and take that." "ZACKARY:" "Youshouldsit next" "ZACKARY:" "Youshouldsit next to 'em." "to 'em." "ELLA:" "Askgoodquestions," "ELLA:" "Askgoodquestions, 'cause I don't think I'll be 'cause I don't think I'll be able to talk." "able to talk." "ZACKARY:" "Okay." "ZACKARY:" "Okay." "ELLA:" "It'sjust,like,that" "ELLA:" "It'sjust,like,that  nervous, like, why him?" "nervous, like, why him?" "Hi." "(indistinct chatter)" "CANDIS:" "IsthatHillary Clinton?" "Clinton?" "Oh, my God!" "Oh, my God!" "Caitlyn." "Caitlyn." "CAITLYN:" "Hillary." "CAITLYN:" "Hillary." "HILLARY:" "Oh,my gosh!" "HILLARY:" "Oh,my gosh!" "Good to see you." "Good to see you." "What are you doing here?" "What are you doing here?" "Did you come for the debate?" "Did you come for the debate?" "CANDIS:" "Yes." "CANDIS:" "Yes." "CAITLYN:" "Ofcoursewedid." "CAITLYN:" "Ofcoursewedid." "HILLARY:" "Howfunnyisthat ?" "HILLARY:" "Howfunnyisthat ?" "CAITLYN:" "Weareontheroad." "CAITLYN:" "Weareontheroad." "These are all my girls." "These are all my girls." "There's Candis..." "There's Candis..." "HILLARY:" "Hi,guys." "HILLARY:" "Hi,guys." "How are you all?" "How are you all?" "CANDIS:" "Greatjobtonight." "CANDIS:" "Greatjobtonight." "HILLARY:" "Thankyousomuch !" "HILLARY:" "Thankyousomuch !" "CANDIS:" "We'recheeringyou" "CANDIS:" "We'recheeringyou  on." "on." "CAITLYN:" "No,we 'reon the" "CAITLYN:" "No,we 'reon the road dealing with trans issues road dealing with trans issues across America." "across America." "HILLARY:" "Oh,that'sgreat." "HILLARY:" "Oh,that'sgreat." "I have to tell you what's" "I have to tell you what's happening around the world happening around the world deserves your attention." "deserves your attention." "CAITLYN:( stammers)Yes." "CAITLYN:( stammers)Yes." "HILLARY:" "Soanything" "HILLARY:" "Soanything you can do to help." "you can do to help." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,we 'retrying" "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,we 'retrying to figure out a way to figure out a way we can do that." "we can do that." "HILLARY:" "Good." "HILLARY:" "Good." "CAITLYN:" "Sowe 're,uh ,we 're" "CAITLYN:" "Sowe 're,uh ,we 're moving along, you know?" "moving along, you know?" "And these are the most fun girls" "And these are the most fun girls to be with." "to be with." "HILLARY:" "Well,Ijustwant" "HILLARY:" "Well,Ijustwant  you guys to have a great time you guys to have a great time and do great work." "and do great work." "ZACKARY:" "Likewise." "ZACKARY:" "Likewise." "With Hillary Clinton, we were" "With Hillary Clinton, we were all so star struck, and Caitlyn all so star struck, and Caitlyn was, too." "was, too." "You know, even though she kind" "You know, even though she kind of wanted to deny it, it was so of wanted to deny it, it was so palpable to me that I was like, palpable to me that I was like, "Oh, she's loving this." ""Oh, she's loving this." "She's meeting a presidential" "She's meeting a presidential front-runner."" "front-runner." HILLARY:" "Gotit ?" "HILLARY:" "Gotit ?" "CAITLYN:" "Yep,we gotit." "CAITLYN:" "Yep,we gotit." "HILLARY:" "Excellent." "HILLARY:" "Excellent." "CAITLYN:" "Allright." "CAITLYN:" "Allright." "HILLARY:" "Thankyouall ." "HILLARY:" "Thankyouall ." "Great to see you." "Great to see you." "Say hello to your family, too." "Say hello to your family, too." "CAITLYN:" "I will." "CAITLYN:" "I will." "CANDIS:" "Yeah!" "CANDIS:" "Yeah!" "ZACKARY:" "Thatwassoawesome." "ZACKARY:" "Thatwassoawesome." "(Caitlyn laughs)" "(Caitlyn laughs) CAITLYN:" "I haveto admit,I" "CAITLYN:" "I haveto admit,I think she is very good on think she is very good on transgender civil rights." "transgender civil rights." "CANDIS:" "Yes." "CANDIS:" "Yes." "MIMI:" "Notme ." "MIMI:" "Notme ." "I am so proud of you." "Yeah." "I am so proud of you." "Yeah." "CAITLYN:" "Youknow,Hillary" "CAITLYN:" "Youknow,Hillary Clinton, she's very sweet." "Clinton, she's very sweet." "Very nice." "Very nice." "And who, like, two minutes later" "And who, like, two minutes later comes by but..." "Bill." "comes by but..." "Bill." "These are all my girls." "These are all my girls." "We're doing a show right now on" "We're doing a show right now on trans issues across America." "trans issues across America." "He volunteered for a picture." "He volunteered for a picture." "Overall, I thought it was great." "Overall, I thought it was great." "BILLCLINTON:" "Goodluck!" "BILLCLINTON:" "Goodluck!" "ZACKARY:" "Wow,thatwas pretty" "ZACKARY:" "Wow,thatwas pretty monumental." "monumental." "(camera shutters clicking)" "CHANDI:" "I 'mgonnahavea Strawberry Bitch." "Strawberry Bitch." "(laughter)" "(laughter) Come on." "Boom." "Come on." "Boom." "WAITRESS:" "I mean,if" "WAITRESS:" "I mean,if  anything, it's fun to order." "anything, it's fun to order." "We also have a Jackass." "We also have a Jackass." "(laughter)" "(laughter) KATE:" "Everybarhas one of" "KATE:" "Everybarhas one of those." "those." "ELLA:" "SoIjustgottheguts" "ELLA:" "SoIjustgottheguts to message Michael." "to message Michael." "And I said, "Hey, Michael, long" "And I said, "Hey, Michael, long time no talk, uh, but I'm time no talk, uh, but I'm actually going to be in actually going to be in Graceland tomorrow with Caitlyn" "Graceland tomorrow with Caitlyn and, um, I was wondering if and, um, I was wondering if you'd want to meet."" "you'd want to meet." And, like, he, like... he" "And, like, he, like... he messaged back." "messaged back." "He gave me his number and he" "He gave me his number and he said, "Yeah, it would be totally said, "Yeah, it would be totally awesome."" "awesome." He's like, "(bleep) is sleeping," "He's like, "(bleep) is sleeping, but I'll ask him when he wakes but I'll ask him when he wakes up."" "up." CHANDI:" "Ooh." "CHANDI:" "Ooh." "ELLA:" "Sowe 'remeeting." "ELLA:" "Sowe 'remeeting." "Yeah, I have his number." "Yeah, I have his number." "JENNY:" "Bravo." "JENNY:" "Bravo." "CHANDI:" "So,Cait,we'regonna" "CHANDI:" "So,Cait,we'regonna be on your old stomping grounds be on your old stomping grounds tomorrow." "tomorrow." "Idea of what we're gonna be up" "Idea of what we're gonna be up against, or...?" "against, or...?" "CAITLYN:" "Well,Iheard" "CAITLYN:" "Well,Iheard they're also gonna open it up to they're also gonna open it up to questions from the student body." "questions from the student body." "It is a church-affiliated" "It is a church-affiliated school." "school." "So, Chandi, if we say something" "So, Chandi, if we say something and they come after you, you and they come after you, you gotta... gotta..." "CHANDI:" "I don'tknow,Cait." "CHANDI:" "I don'tknow,Cait." "I can't say that I won't say it" "I can't say that I won't say it and mean it." "and mean it." "CAITLYN:" "Don'tscaremelike" "CAITLYN:" "Don'tscaremelike  this." "this." "CHANDI:" "I reallycan'tsay" "CHANDI:" "I reallycan'tsay  that, in-in-in order... that, in-in-in order..." "I can't just sit there and-and" "I can't just sit there and-and take that." "take that." "CAITLYN:" "Yougottarealize" "CAITLYN:" "Yougottarealize that that's the college where I that that's the college where I graduated and those-those people graduated and those-those people were very good." "were very good." "To be honest with you, going" "To be honest with you, going back to Graceland, I'm..." "I'm back to Graceland, I'm..." "I'm quite nervous about this." "quite nervous about this." "I can see where the girls are" "I can see where the girls are coming from." "coming from." "You know, if somebody would come" "You know, if somebody would come after 'em, they're gonna... you after 'em, they're gonna... you know, they're fighters, all of know, they're fighters, all of these girls are fighters." "these girls are fighters." "But what they have to realize is" "But what they have to realize is also that I have a relationship, also that I have a relationship, uh, with this school." "uh, with this school." "I was very good and treated" "I was very good and treated Hillary Clinton with a lot of" "Hillary Clinton with a lot of respect and I-I want them to respect and I-I want them to treat the student body and the treat the student body and the teachers here with this same teachers here with this same respect, uh, in the way they" "respect, uh, in the way they handle these issues." "handle these issues." "CHANDI:" "Aslongasthey don't" "CHANDI:" "Aslongasthey don't tell me that I'm a sinner for tell me that I'm a sinner for being who I am, I'll be okay." "being who I am, I'll be okay." "ZACKARY:" "Butif theydo..." "ZACKARY:" "Butif theydo..." "CHANDI:" "Iftheydo, that's" "CHANDI:" "Iftheydo, that's another problem." "CAITLYN:" "Guys,holdit." "This is big." "This is big." "The coaches while I was there..." "The coaches while I was there..." "I was really wondering what" "I was really wondering what their reaction is going to be." "their reaction is going to be." "Are you ready?" "Are you ready?" "CANDIS:" "We'reready!" "CANDIS:" "We'reready!" "CHANDI:" "Ready." "CHANDI:" "Ready." "(Zackary whoops)" "(Zackary whoops) CAITLYN:" "Let'sdo it ." "CAITLYN:" "Let'sdo it ." "ELLA:" "Thisconservative" "ELLA:" "Thisconservative school... school..." "What are people gonna think?" "(birds singing) CANDIS:" "I seeyou'regetting" "CANDIS:" "I seeyou'regetting nervous." "nervous." "ELLA:" "I 'mnervousforthem," "ELLA:" "I 'mnervousforthem, because they're gonna be so because they're gonna be so overwhelmed with all these overwhelmed with all these beautiful trans women and, like, beautiful trans women and, like, so much to, you know, take in." "so much to, you know, take in." "CHANDI:" "Andhowsweetare" "CHANDI:" "Andhowsweetare you, to be worrying about them you, to be worrying about them when you should be worrying when you should be worrying about you?" "about you?" "ELLA:" "I wasn'tnecessarily" "ELLA:" "I wasn'tnecessarily the... the coolest person in the... the coolest person in high school." "high school." "I don't know what people would" "I don't know what people would think, seeing one of the think, seeing one of the football players sitting at football players sitting at lunch with Ella." "lunch with Ella." "Men in general, when it comes to" "Men in general, when it comes to putting yourself in that putting yourself in that situation, where you're situation, where you're publically viewed either publically viewed either intimately with a trans woman or intimately with a trans woman or just friendly with a trans" "just friendly with a trans woman." "woman." "This conservative school..." "This conservative school..." "What are people gonna think?" "What are people gonna think?" "CHANDI:" "Oh,you'recoming" "CHANDI:" "Oh,you'recoming with your posse, girl, you gotta with your posse, girl, you gotta get over it." "get over it." "ELLA:" "Yeah." "ELLA:" "Yeah." "ZACKARY:" "Withyourgirlgang ." "ZACKARY:" "Withyourgirlgang ." "CHANDI:" "Youright." "CHANDI:" "Youright." "You coming with your posse and" "You coming with your posse and you're all good and that's the you're all good and that's the zone you need to focus and be zone you need to focus and be in." "in." "ELLA:" "Outof anyonethatI" "ELLA:" "Outof anyonethatI went to school with, it had to went to school with, it had to be him and his best friend at be him and his best friend at Graceland." "Graceland." "COURTNEY:" "They'regonnabeso" "COURTNEY:" "They'regonnabeso excited." "excited." "CHANDI:" "LikeZackarysaid," "CHANDI:" "LikeZackarysaid, you should be looking at it as you should be looking at it as an opportunity to shine." "CAITLYN:" "Everybodyon their best behavior." "best behavior." "ZACKARY:( bleep)A." "ZACKARY:( bleep)A. CAITLYN:( bleep)A." "CAITLYN:( bleep)A. I like that attitude, girls!" "I like that attitude, girls!" "Actually, I was doing pretty" "Actually, I was doing pretty good on the whole ride down good on the whole ride down here." "here." "Now I'm actually kind of" "Now I'm actually kind of nervous." "nervous." "Yeah, I never wore heels at" "Yeah, I never wore heels at Graceland." "Graceland." "(laughter)" "(laughter) JOHN:" "I 'mJohnSellars." "JOHN:" "I 'mJohnSellars." "CAITLYN:" "Caitlyn." "CAITLYN:" "Caitlyn." "How are you doing?" "How are you doing?" "JOHN:" "Caitlyn,greatto" "JOHN:" "Caitlyn,greatto have you here." "have you here." "CAITLYN:" "Mypleasure." "CAITLYN:" "Mypleasure." "JOHN:" "We'vebeenlooking" "JOHN:" "We'vebeenlooking forward to it." "forward to it." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,thisispretty" "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,thisispretty cool." "cool." "Guys, hold it." "This is big." "Guys, hold it." "This is big." "This is Jerry Hampton." "This is Jerry Hampton." "JERRY:" "Oh,God,it'sgood to" "JERRY:" "Oh,God,it'sgood to see you." "see you." "CAITLYN:" "Howyoudoing?" "CAITLYN:" "Howyoudoing?" "JERRY:" "I 'mdoinggood," "JERRY:" "I 'mdoinggood, really." "really." "CAITLYN:" "You'restillhere!" "CAITLYN:" "You'restillhere!" "(Jerry laughs)" "(Jerry laughs) And Bill Dudek." "And Bill Dudek." "How are you doing?" "How are you doing?" "BILL:" "Hey,goodtoseeyou." "BILL:" "Hey,goodtoseeyou." "CAITLYN:" "Goodto seeyou ." "CAITLYN:" "Goodto seeyou ." "When I was at Graceland, as far" "When I was at Graceland, as far as my identity, I had my as my identity, I had my diversions in life and I found diversions in life and I found sports and I could be "the guy"" "sports and I could be "the guy" in sports." "in sports." "And Jerry Hampton was one of the" "And Jerry Hampton was one of the coaches while I was there, and coaches while I was there, and Bill Dudek, one of the other" "Bill Dudek, one of the other coaches." "coaches." "I was really wondering what" "I was really wondering what their reaction is going to be." "their reaction is going to be." "JERRY:" "Theyweresure" "JERRY:" "Theyweresure bragging on you in my office." "bragging on you in my office." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,really?" "CAITLYN:" "Oh,really?" "JERRY:" "Theyweretalking" "JERRY:" "Theyweretalking about you as a student and how about you as a student and how proud they are of you." "proud they are of you." "I know they're gonna be telling" "I know they're gonna be telling you that." "you that." "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,well,I" "CAITLYN:" "Yeah,well,I appreciate that." "appreciate that." "ELLA:" "ShouldIsit onthe" "ELLA:" "ShouldIsit onthe other side, or sit here, next to other side, or sit here, next to them?" "them?" "ZACKARY:" "No,youshouldsit" "ZACKARY:" "No,youshouldsit next to 'em." "next to 'em." "ELLA:" "Askgoodquestions," "ELLA:" "Askgoodquestions, 'cause I don't think I'll be 'cause I don't think I'll be able to talk." "able to talk." "ZACKARY:" "Okay." "ZACKARY:" "Okay." "ELLA:" "I 'm..." "I don'teven" "ELLA:" "I 'm..." "I don'teven have feelings anymore, it's just have feelings anymore, it's just like that nervous, like, "Why like that nervous, like, "Why him?"" "him?" You know?" "You know?" "But I need to remember that high" "But I need to remember that high school's over, we're all adults school's over, we're all adults here, and, um, I hope that we'll here, and, um, I hope that we'll have a nice conversation." "have a nice conversation." "WOMAN:" "Thankyou." "WOMAN:" "Thankyou." "ELLA:" "Hi." "ELLA:" "Hi." "Michael." "Michael." "Hello, Michael, how are you?" "Hello, Michael, how are you?" "MICHAEL:" "Hey,Ella,how you" "MICHAEL:" "Hey,Ella,how you  doing?" "doing?" "I'm doing good." "How are you?" "I'm doing good." "How are you?" "ELLA:" "Good,I'mdoing" "ELLA:" "Good,I'mdoing awesome." "This is Jenny." "awesome." "This is Jenny." "MICHAEL:" "Hi,Jenny,niceto" "MICHAEL:" "Hi,Jenny,niceto meet you." "meet you." "JENNY:" "Hi." "What'syourname ?" "JENNY:" "Hi." "What'syourname ?" "MICHAEL:" "Michael." "MICHAEL:" "Michael." "Nice to meet you." "Nice to meet you." "JENNY:" "Michael,it 'sa" "JENNY:" "Michael,it 'sa pleasure to meet you." "pleasure to meet you." "MICHAEL:" "Pleasuremeetin'" "MICHAEL:" "Pleasuremeetin' you." "you." "CANDIS:" "Now,didyou have" "CANDIS:" "Now,didyou have another friend that was coming?" "another friend that was coming?" "MICHAEL:" "Wehadaclass" "MICHAEL:" "Wehadaclass together today and he didn't go." "And when I went back to the room, after my class, he wasn't room, after my class, he wasn't there." "there." "And I texted him, like, "Hey," "And I texted him, like, "Hey, where are you?"" "where are you?" No reply and..." "I haven't gotten" "No reply and..." "I haven't gotten a reply." "a reply." "Yeah." "Yeah." "WOMAN:" "Howdidyou goabout," "WOMAN:" "Howdidyou goabout, like, keeping on to your like, keeping on to your transformation and still transformation and still acknowledging God in your life?" "acknowledging God in your life?" "CHANDI:" "How?" "CHANDI:" "How?" "CAITLYN:" "Chandi." "CAITLYN:" "Chandi." "CHANDI:" "I gotthisone ." "CANDIS:" "Now,didyou have another friend that was coming?" "another friend that was coming?" "MICHAEL:" "Wehadaclass" "MICHAEL:" "Wehadaclass together today and he didn't go." "together today and he didn't go." "And when I went back to the" "And when I went back to the room, after my class, he wasn't room, after my class, he wasn't there." "there." "And I texted him, like, "Hey," "And I texted him, like, "Hey, where are you?"" "where are you?" No reply and..." "I haven't gotten" "No reply and..." "I haven't gotten a reply." "a reply." "Yeah." "Yeah." "ELLA:" "Thefactthat(bleep)" "ELLA:" "Thefactthat(bleep) didn't come kind of showed me didn't come kind of showed me that..." "I mean, it didn't..." "I that..." "I mean, it didn't..." "I don't even know if it really don't even know if it really showed me anything." "showed me anything." "He might have just been nervous," "He might have just been nervous, you know?" "you know?" "Um... you can't blame him for" "Um... you can't blame him for that." "that." "Uh, I definitely do want to give" "Uh, I definitely do want to give full kudos to Michael though, full kudos to Michael though, for him to kind of come in for him to kind of come in there, knowing that he was going" "there, knowing that he was going to be in front of a camera to be in front of a camera alone." "alone." "KATE:" "Whatwasitlike for" "KATE:" "Whatwasitlike for you when Ella went through her you when Ella went through her transition?" "transition?" "MICHAEL:" "Um,Ithinkmyfirst" "MICHAEL:" "Um,Ithinkmyfirst  time I saw her, uh, at the time I saw her, uh, at the Ventura County Fair." "Ventura County Fair." "ELLA:" "I camein my" "ELLA:" "I camein my  high-waisted shorts and a little high-waisted shorts and a little crop top." "crop top." "No, terrible." "No, terrible." "MICHAEL:" "FirstthingI" "MICHAEL:" "FirstthingI thought was, "Oh, maybe she thought was, "Oh, maybe she transferred from a different transferred from a different school, like, out of state or school, like, out of state or something like that, and" "something like that, and everybody just happens to know everybody just happens to know her but me."" "her but me." I was like, "Okay."" "I was like, "Okay." Then when I made eye contact" "Then when I made eye contact with her, I was like, "Wow."" "with her, I was like, "Wow." I was kind of, like, in awe," "I was kind of, like, in awe, like, that she, like, came out like, that she, like, came out like that." "like that." "I thought that was very bold." "I thought that was very bold." "KATE:" "Mike." "KATE:" "Mike." "MICHAEL:" "Yes." "MICHAEL:" "Yes." "KATE:" "You'reagentleman." "KATE:" "You'reagentleman." "MICHAEL:" "Thankyou." "MICHAEL:" "Thankyou." "ELLA:" "Gentleman,yes." "ELLA:" "Gentleman,yes." "KATE:" "Youare." "KATE:" "Youare." "CAITLYN:" "Readyto go do this," "CAITLYN:" "Readyto go do this, babe?" "babe?" "CHANDI:" "Let'sdo it ." "CHANDI:" "Let'sdo it ." "CAITLYN:" "I hopethatthe" "CAITLYN:" "I hopethatthe  girls respect that this is my girls respect that this is my school, this is where I went to school, this is where I went to college, this is where my name college, this is where my name is on the whole sports complex." "is on the whole sports complex." "I just don't want to do anything" "I just don't want to do anything to upset anybody." "to upset anybody." "I want this to be informative" "I want this to be informative for the students and the for the students and the faculty to learn something about faculty to learn something about our community." "our community." "Are you ready?" "Are you ready?" "ELLA:" "We'reready." "ELLA:" "We'reready." "KATE:" "We'reready." "KATE:" "We'reready." "CAITLYN:" "Let'sdo it ." "CAITLYN:" "Let'sdo it ." "KATE:" "Allright." "KATE:" "Allright." "CANDIS:" "Wegotyourback ." "CANDIS:" "Wegotyourback ." "(indistinct chatter)" "(applause)" "RAQUEL:" "TodayGraceland students have a great students have a great opportunity to have a discussion opportunity to have a discussion about gender identity, so I'm about gender identity, so I'm very, very excited." "very, very excited." "There are no wrong questions." "There are no wrong questions." "ELLA:" "I ,I thoughtIwas" "ELLA:" "I ,I thoughtIwas  nervous before we got to nervous before we got to Graceland College, but my" "Graceland College, but my stomach is just dropping." "stomach is just dropping." "You know, after having the lunch" "You know, after having the lunch with Michael and, um, the other with Michael and, um, the other boy not showing up, I don't know boy not showing up, I don't know what to expect." "what to expect." "RAQUEL:" "Youaskwhatyoufeel" "RAQUEL:" "Youaskwhatyoufeel you should ask." "you should ask." "ELLA:" "It'svery" "ELLA:" "It'svery nerve-racking." "nerve-racking." "STUDENT:" "Myquestionis, how" "STUDENT:" "Myquestionis, how  did you go about keeping onto did you go about keeping onto your journey of, like, your your journey of, like, your transformation and still transformation and still acknowledging God in your life?" "acknowledging God in your life?" "Because, like, religion and" "Because, like, religion and everything." "everything." "(indistinct chatter)" "(indistinct chatter) CHANDI:" "How?" "CHANDI:" "How?" "CAITLYN:" "Chandi?" "CAITLYN:" "Chandi?" "CHANDI:" "I gotthisone ." "CAITLYN:" "Chandi?" "CHANDI:" "I gotthisone ." "CHANDI:" "I gotthisone ." "(indistinct chatter)" "Well, it actually was hard." "I grew up in a very religious" "I grew up in a very religious family." "family." "Many years I heard that my life" "Many years I heard that my life was an abomination." "was an abomination." "So I lost touch with God for" "So I lost touch with God for many years." "many years." "I had to recognize the fact that" "I had to recognize the fact that God knew who I was before I did." "God knew who I was before I did." "So how can I be falling out of" "So how can I be falling out of touch with God when he knew touch with God when he knew before I did." "before I did." "It's a connection that I've made" "It's a connection that I've made that now that I have, I'll never that now that I have, I'll never let it go again." "let it go again." "(applause)" "(applause) KATE:" "Mydaughterisa" "KATE:" "Mydaughterisa  high-ranking executive in the high-ranking executive in the Church of Scientology." "Church of Scientology." "And to Scientologists," "And to Scientologists, my trans-ness is proof my trans-ness is proof that I am an evil person that I am an evil person and should not be talked with." "and should not be talked with." "So I haven't seen her since she" "So I haven't seen her since she was nine." "was nine." "She's now 42, 43 years old." "I haven't completely given up hope." "hope." "I haven't, and especially" "I haven't, and especially getting some strength from the getting some strength from the women I'm traveling with now." "women I'm traveling with now." "And just being able to say this" "And just being able to say this to you." "to you." "Look for the heart of the" "Look for the heart of the doctrine you're following." "doctrine you're following." "And if it's at all mean, think" "And if it's at all mean, think twice before following it any twice before following it any further." "further." "Thank you." "Thank you." "(applause)" "STUDENT:" "So,my questionis what kind of pronouns should we what kind of pronouns should we be using when referring to you?" "be using when referring to you?" "CAITLYN:" "Uh,formethe" "CAITLYN:" "Uh,formethe pronoun thing changed pronoun thing changed immediately when  Vanity Fair immediately when  Vanity Fair came out." "came out." "Now I go by, uh, "she."" "Now I go by, uh, "she." KATE:" "I preferthepronoun" "KATE:" "I preferthepronoun "they."" ""they." I don't mind "she."" "I don't mind "she." CHANDI:" "I goby Beyoncé" "CHANDI:" "I goby Beyoncé pronouns." "pronouns." "(laughter, applause)" "(laughter, applause) Boom!" "Boom!" "Boom!" "Boom!" "STUDENT2 :" "Okay,so my" "STUDENT2 :" "Okay,so my  question is how has living as a question is how has living as a woman and facing the woes in woman and facing the woes in life, living as a woman, life, living as a woman, affected you?" "affected you?" "CANDIS:" "I ,I don'tknow." "CANDIS:" "I ,I don'tknow." "I feel ten times more powerful" "I feel ten times more powerful as a woman." "as a woman." "I do." "I do." "(applause)" "(applause) I always felt nothing made sense" "I always felt nothing made sense before, and as soon as I before, and as soon as I transitioned, I had a light transitioned, I had a light inside me that nobody's gonna inside me that nobody's gonna (bleep) with me." "(bleep) with me." "I'm sorry." "I'm sorry." "(students cheering)" "(students cheering) CHANDI:" "I thinkthatthe-the" "CHANDI:" "I thinkthatthe-the power is-is great, but I think power is-is great, but I think in relationships, it allows me in relationships, it allows me to think like he's thinking." "to think like he's thinking." "I still can recognize game." "I still can recognize game." "And I love that part." "And I love that part." "STUDENT:" "Yeah!" "STUDENT:" "Yeah!" "(applause)" "(applause) Can I get a witness?" "Can I get a witness?" "ELLA:" "Um,Ihonestlythink" "ELLA:" "Um,Ihonestlythink being a woman has nothing to do being a woman has nothing to do with the physicality of our with the physicality of our beings." "beings." "Um, I am the same exact person I" "Um, I am the same exact person I was, uh, before my transition." "was, uh, before my transition." "your life is always evolving and your life is always evolving and not every day is going to be the not every day is going to be the best day." "best day." "CHANDI:" "Right." "CHANDI:" "Right." "ELLA:" "Butyouknow,youcan" "ELLA:" "Butyouknow,youcan make it the best day as make it the best day as possible, so... possible, so..." "(applause)" "CHANDI:" "I totallyloveElla, and before we left on the trip, and before we left on the trip, I told her, "Ella, we want you" "I told her, "Ella, we want you to be a sponge and we want you to be a sponge and we want you to absorb all this knowledge to absorb all this knowledge that is around you."" "that is around you." And in that moment, she was just" "And in that moment, she was just so poised and just being able to so poised and just being able to see her grow around us and see see her grow around us and see how we're all individually" "how we're all individually rubbing off on her rubbing off on her makes that so beautiful." "makes that so beautiful." "STUDENT:" "I justwanttoget" "STUDENT:" "I justwanttoget your input on how happy you guys your input on how happy you guys are right now?" "are right now?" "'Cause you guys look happy." "'Cause you guys look happy." "CAITLYN:" "Honestly,foryears" "CAITLYN:" "Honestly,foryears and years, I struggled." "and years, I struggled." "I would literally go to my" "I would literally go to my house, uh, never really coming house, uh, never really coming out." "out." "That was really, really tough" "That was really, really tough times for me." "times for me." "And I had lost that spirit for" "And I had lost that spirit for life, because I just didn't know life, because I just didn't know who I was." "who I was." "I have to admit today..." "I have to admit today..." "I can't wait..." "I can't wait for the day to get started." "started." "I'm excited about life." "I'm excited about life." "I got things to do." "I got things to do." "I love myself." "I love myself." "That was a long struggle." "That was a long struggle." "(applause)" "JENNY:" "InGracelandCollege, I think in some ways the tables" "I think in some ways the tables were turned." "were turned." "I think that it was Caitlyn's" "I think that it was Caitlyn's turn to be a little bit afraid turn to be a little bit afraid of what we might say." "of what we might say." "But everybody on that stage was" "But everybody on that stage was remarkably eloquent." "remarkably eloquent." "We didn't know how we were gonna" "We didn't know how we were gonna be received when we got there." "be received when we got there." "And people were not just" "And people were not just respectful, but interested and respectful, but interested and supportive, which I thin supportive, which I thin us all by surprise." "us all by surprise." "CAITLYN:" "Whataprivilegeit" "CAITLYN:" "Whataprivilegeit has been to talk to all my has been to talk to all my little brothers and sisters of little brothers and sisters of Graceland." "Graceland." "Go out there, be your true self." "Go out there, be your true self." "And kick butt and work hard." "And kick butt and work hard." "(students cheering)" "(students cheering) CHANDI:" "Thanksforasking" "CHANDI:" "Thanksforasking about our happiness." "about our happiness." "We never get questions about our" "We never get questions about our happiness." "happiness." "STUDENT:" "I figured." "STUDENT:" "I figured." "CHANDI:" "It'salwaysaboutthe" "CHANDI:" "It'salwaysaboutthe bad stuff, so thank you for bad stuff, so thank you for that." "that." "CAITLYN:" "DidIdookay up" "CAITLYN:" "DidIdookay up there?" "there?" "JERRY:" "Whatagreat," "JERRY:" "Whatagreat, great thing." "great thing." "CAITLYN:" "Thankyou." "CAITLYN:" "Thankyou." "JERRY:" "I couldn'tbe prouder" "JERRY:" "I couldn'tbe prouder with everything that with everything that you've done." "you've done." "CAITLYN:" "No,there's,there's" "CAITLYN:" "No,there's,there's mostly great... mostly great..." "JERRY:" "You'redoingsucha" "JERRY:" "You'redoingsucha great thing for everyone." "great thing for everyone." "CAITLYN:" "ThosegirlsIgot" "CAITLYN:" "ThosegirlsIgot with me are just phenomenally with me are just phenomenally good." "good." "I think probably the most" "I think probably the most important thing of of my story important thing of of my story is that no matter what your is that no matter what your situation is, that-that they can situation is, that-that they can live their lives authentically." "live their lives authentically." "They can overcome the obstacles" "They can overcome the obstacles that they have in life." "that they have in life." "'Cause everybody has them." "'Cause everybody has them." "That's my mission." "That's my mission." "Team Caitlyn, you guys did good!" "Team Caitlyn, you guys did good!" "You guys did so good!" "You guys did so good!" "ZACKARY:" "Youwerereally" "ZACKARY:" "Youwerereally great." "great." "CAITLYN:" "I 'msoproudofyou!" "CAITLYN:" "I 'msoproudofyou!" "It's not just trans issues." "It's not just trans issues." "It's about dealing with all of" "It's about dealing with all of our stuff that we have." "our stuff that we have." "CANDIS:" "Thankyoufor" "CANDIS:" "Thankyoufor  bringing me there." "bringing me there." "I was a little nervous and I was" "I was a little nervous and I was a little hard on you and I-I'm a little hard on you and I-I'm sorry." "sorry." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,it 'sokay." "CAITLYN:" "Oh,it 'sokay." "It's okay." "It's okay." "CANDIS:" "AndI'mgonnabemore" "CANDIS:" "AndI'mgonnabemore open to... open to..." "CAITLYN:" "Sayit ." "CAITLYN:" "Sayit ." "(laughs)" "(laughs) CANDIS:" "I 'llbealittlebit" "CANDIS:" "I 'llbealittlebit more open to your conservative more open to your conservative views." "views." "CAITLYN:" "Ooh,Ilikethat ." "CAITLYN:" "Ooh,Ilikethat ." "I love that." "I love that." "We still got a long ways to go." "We still got a long ways to go." "CANDIS:" "Wedo ." "CANDIS:" "Wedo ." "CAITLYN:" "We'reonlyin" "CAITLYN:" "We'reonlyin Lamoni." "Lamoni." "CANDIS:" "I know!" "CANDIS:" "I know!" "CAITLYN:" "Wehaveplentyof" "CAITLYN:" "Wehaveplentyof time to discuss." "Squat down." "CANDIS:" "Thistrainer,he's" "CANDIS:" "Thistrainer,he's really yummy." "really yummy." "And he seems like he's flirting" "And he seems like he's flirting back." "back." "This is the longest I've been" "This is the longest I've been without a relationship." "without a relationship." "TRAINER:" "I thinkit mightbe" "TRAINER:" "I thinkit mightbe just around the corner." "just around the corner." "CAITLYN:" "Disickis in the" "CAITLYN:" "Disickis in the house." "house." "SCOTT:" "Hello!" "SCOTT:" "Hello!" "CAITLYN:" "Scottis kindof" "CAITLYN:" "Scottis kindof unpredictable." "unpredictable." "I-I hope we see the good side." "I-I hope we see the good side." "SCOTT:" "I haven'ttalked" "SCOTT:" "I haven'ttalked to you all night." "to you all night." "CAITLYN:" "I know." "CAITLYN:" "I know." "COURTNEY:" "Areyou" "COURTNEY:" "Areyou ignoring him?" "ignoring him?" "CAITLYN:" "No,I'mnot ignoring" "CAITLYN:" "No,I'mnot ignoring him-- he's over there." "him-- he's over there." "SCOTT:" "I 'mgonnaputmyself" "SCOTT:" "I 'mgonnaputmyself to bed." "to bed." "Captioningsponsoredby" "Captioningsponsoredby  BUNIM-MURRAYPRODUCTIONS" "LER:" "My name is Tyl"