"Right now on "Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter,"" "We'll hear from eight actresses behind the year's most talked-about performances." "I had my first real sex scene a couple weeks ago." "When you say real sex scene, you mean penetration or" "No." "(laughter)" "No, yeah, like, thank you for clarifying that." "You're creating a space where you can say," ""I might (bleep) up here," ""but if I (bleep) up, I might discover something, which we can use." Yeah, exactly." "And so you have to embarrass yourself." "All this crap about, "Oh, I can't write roles for women, I just don't understand them."" "It's like, you don't have to." "We did actually do a pee test." "Was it real pee?" "No, it wasn't real, it wasn't real." "It wasn't?" "!" "How cou" "(laughter)" "(Stephen) Cate Blanchett, "Carol," and "Truth."" "Kate Winslet, "Steve Jobs."" "Helen Mirren, "Woman in Gold" and "Trumbo."" "Brie Larson, "Room."" "Carey Mulligan, "Suffragette."" "Jane Fonda, "Youth."" "Charlotte Rampling, "45 Years."" "Jennifer Lawrence, "Joy."" "Hello and welcome to "Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter."" "I'm Stephen Galloway, Executive Editor, Features." "I'm gonna start with a simple question." "(throat clearing) Why do you act?" "That's not a simple question." "(Brie) What on earth?" "I said that with some irony." "Mm-hmm." "'Cause I have to." "Is someone forcing you at will?" "I think I became an actress because" "I discovered the world of the imagination when I was about 14 or so, in terms of literature, and the concept that you could engage in this amazing world of storytelling, I guess, of telling stories." "I came to it through Shakespeare." "Sort of discovered Shakespeare as a thing of storytelling." "I saw a production of "Hamlet,"" "and I didn't know that Hamlet died in the end." "(Stephen laughing) Can you imagine?" "You gave it away for our audience." "(Cate) He does?" "(bleep)" "(Helen) Oh, I'm so sorry." "You ruined it." "(Helen) I know." "Well, hopefully no one under the age" "Spoiler alert." "Under the age of 18 is watching this, or under the age of 10 anyway." "But anyway, you know," "Shakespeare is an amazing storyteller." "(Cate) I don't want to sound too wanky, but for me, it's a vocation." "And in that end, I feel like" "I didn't choose it, it chose me." "And, you know, all those out-of-work actors will probably tell me to shut up and I'll have to commit ritual suicide, but I'm always trying to not do it, to be honest." "That's interesting." "And then" " And then you get a call from Martin Scorsese or Todd Haynes or whoever, Ivo van Hove, or you know, and then you get drawn back-- back into it." "And for me, it's a-- it's being in dialogue with people." "(Kate) It's weird, isn't it?" "Because it can be lonely, actually," "I think, especially when you're younger." "I remember looking back on my life when I was 21, 22, and-- and really remembering that feeling of" ""God, okay, we finished work now," ""and now I'm gonna go back to this" ""funny, strange place where they've put me, which is probably extremely comfortable," and then there's doing the work for the next day or the next week, but those moments of going," ""Wow, I'm doing this by myself."" "And what is interesting out of that question is, who do you act for?" "Yes." "I remember being asked that when I was younger and thinking, "Oh, my God."" "I was in a room with lots of really scary people like Kenneth Branagh and Derek Jacobi, and everyone said, a parent, actually." "Every single person." "And we went fully around the table and everyone said a parent, and I sat there thinking, "(bleep)."" "Because I-- You mean" " You mean in terms of acting as being a way of seeking approval?" "'Cause it's that whole thing, isn't it, that actors want to be liked." "Well, exactly." "Exactly." "And in a way, you know, I'm not" "That doesn't interest me at all." "(Kate) Me-- me too." "And what I love about the theater is that you know who you're acting for, your audience." "Exactly." "And the thing that I find really hard in film is that you don't" "It's invisible, the audience is invisible and we're sitting here talking, hoping that someone's gonna listen." "What are they gonna-- Are they gonna watch this?" "You know, there's other people out there." "Jennifer, who do you act for?" "My agent." "(laughter)" "(Kate) That's such a weird question." "Myself" "I wouldn't have-- If I hadn't found it," "I would have never been able to make sense of all of these bizarre things that I'm sure we all had when we were kids." "Why, if I think something, do I feel it?" "When you're young, before you're acting, you just-- that just makes you feel crazy." "Mmm, all those voices." "You know, like I convinced my entire bus that we were being held up for ransom, 'cause I was reading about it and was just like, "It's real."" "Wow." "(laughing)" "So I have an outlet, and now I understand what it is, or otherwise I would have felt mentally insane." "I act for myself." "I really" " I really love it." "What do you love and what do you not love about it, Jane?" "I didn't-- never wanted to be an actor." "My dad was an actor and he never brought it into my home." "But I got fired as a secretary and then I started studying and Lee Strasberg said I was talented, so I started doing it just to earn money, and it took me a long time to-- to learn to love it," "and what I discovered in the process is it makes you become more empathic, because you have to enter someone else's reality." "And so you learn to see through many other people's eyes." "I mean, I find actors tend to be very compassionate and empathic." "Actors are amazingly generous and supportive of each other." "(Kate) And there's nothing like it in the world," "I think, that feeling, if you're lucky enough to get a rehearsal period on a film, that, for me, is almost the most exciting bit, because to be in that space with those actors and a great director," "there is literally nowhere else like it in the world." "That's very much how I feel." "What is totally terrifying is that unlike a musician, who has a musical instrument or a painter that's got a canvas and a brush, this is us, our energy, our soul, our spirits." "And if that shuts down, it's so hard, because it's so vulnerable." "Carey, what was the hardest thing about playing the role in "Suffragette"?" ""Suffragette" was difficult because she was an ordinary woman, a completely ordinary woman, and-- and then by the end, she's almost radicalized." "And, you know, trying to make her a consistent person," "I guess, that it doesn't seem like one person at the beginning of the story and then suddenly, she's just transformed, and now she's a really brave woman." "And there was lots of kind of tricky stuff in it, but you know, all those scenes that you always think are really hard are the reasons that you take the job." "We burn things because war is the only language men listen to, 'cause you've beaten us and betrayed us and there's nothing else left." "Then there's nothing left but to stop you." "What are you gonna do?" "Lock us all up?" "We're in every home." "We're half the human race." "You can't stop us all." "You might lose your life before this is over." "And we will win." "You had one scene with Meryl Streep." "(laughing) Yeah." "What did you talk about off camera?" "Mm-hmm." "Well, she" " They didn't have any shoes in her size, so she brought her "Out of Africa" shoes, so we were just, like, drilling her." "And then, like, "Let's go, let's work."" "Um, for a long time, yeah, it was fun." "Did she give you any advice?" "No, I mean, I find people, like, you know, people don't" "I'm surrounded by, you know, incredible actresses that" "I would, you know, look to, but people don't bestow advice." "They just lead by example, you know, and so" "And she leads by example." "Brie, you did a film about a woman trapped in a dungeon-like space." "What kind of research did you do for that, and did you actually talk to any real-life people who had been trapped in those circumstances?" "You know, I'm a big believer in privacy, and I didn't feel like it was my place to invade their space and ask them about that, because ultimately, what the story is, is universal, and I didn't want" "to get into some sort of invasive crime tale." "Do you remember how Alice wasn't always in Wonderland?" "She fell down, down, down, deep in a hole." "Right, well, I wasn't always in room." "I'm like Alice." "I was a little girl named Joy." "Nah." "And I lived in a house with my mom and my dad." "You would call them Grandma and Grandpa." "What house?" "A house." "It was in the world." "And there was a backyard and we had a hammock." "And we would swing in the hammock and we would eat ice cream." "A TV house?" "No, Jack, a real house, not TV." "Are you even listening to me?" "I had been given some videos of the very rare times that these girls had done public interviews, and they... just broke my heart and made me so angry." "And that was sort of the fuel for really wanting to put a lot into that interview scene that's at the end of the movie, because I wanted to expose the way that we are exploiting someone else's tragedy." "(Cate) But what was really interesting" "It's interesting you're saying that about the film, is that you think," ""I have to really prepare myself" ""before I watch this." "I don't know how" "I'm gonna deal with it as an audience member."" "But the first third's in the room, and then one of the most horrifying moments is that interview when you realize, she's been through such an-- you know, unimaginable trauma, and now she's gonna have to pay" "for her legal bills by doing this interview." "And the blankness that-- with which you played that moment was, for me, equally as horrifying as the trauma that she went through in the room." "Yeah." "I wanted that to also be the scariest she ever looked." "You see her with no makeup and, like, not how you normally see an actress in a film, just, like, raw skin, clogged pores." "I didn't wash my face for a long time to just get it all gross." "And at first, you're sort of like, "Oh, God,"" "and then you adjust to it, and then by the time she's got makeup on, you're like," ""Why does anyone put makeup on ever?"" "It's the most bizarre thing to me." "I think that's when she looks the most horrific." "It's the ugliest she ever is." "And you would think it would be perhaps in the trauma, or when she has just nothing and it's so bare, but in fact, I think it's that-- that stripped-down-ness, and the flaw of it" "that I think that we love so much." "We'll be right back." "♪" "Performance reimagined." "Style reinvented." "Sophistication redefined." "Introducing the all-new Lexus RX and RX Hybrid." "Agile handling." "Available 12.3-inch navigation screen and panorama glass roof." "Never has luxury been this expressive." "This is the Pursuit of Perfection." "You get a cold." "You can't breathe through your nose." "Suddenly, you're a mouthbreather." "A mouthbreather!" "How can anyone sleep like that?" "Well, just put on a Breathe Right strip and POW!" "it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than cold medicine alone." "So you can breathe and sleep." "Shut your mouth and say goodnight mouthbreathers." 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"See your RA in a different way." "♪" "Welcome back to "Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter."" "We're here with eight leading ladies from the season's most compelling films." "Cate, I was interested when you did "Truth,"" "that you're playing a real life character, so when you take on a film like that, do you feel you have to endorse that film's version of the truth?" "It's a particular moment in time and someone's viewpoint has to take you through the story." "And it's really about the unhealthy crucible between our politicians, the centralized media ownership and the readership, and so that was the bit that interested me." "And, of course, I met Mary and I talked to her at length, and she's a fascinating, compelling person, but it was about her in freefall." "Andrew asked you to apologize?" "He didn't ask." "Dan, that's..." "It's surrender, you know?" "Ever since Burkett changed his story, Andrew feels that" "CBS can't afford the risk to its reputation." "Oh, God-- He knew." "Even before we went down there, he just wanted to get Burkett on tape." "Mary, you gotta promise me something:" "Stop worrying about me." "Yeah, well, that's not gonna happen." "A film is not a documentary." "You know, it's about-- The film is about the demise of investigative journalism." "I'd never, ever see film as being an absolute version of the truth." "Even by the sin of omission, you know, you're guiding people." "But it's" " If it inspires people to go back and think about Viacom" "Did meeting her lead you to change the performance?" "At what point did you meet her?" "I was on stage in New York and she came up to see the show and we met and then we Skyped throughout the course of the film, but at certain points I had to disconnect and just play the-- 'cause you are playing a character." "I mean, you were saying that the other day, Helen, is that you have all these-- the people that, if you're playing a real-life character, or a fictional character, they're far more interesting" "than, you know, the time you have to put it all" "You try and put as much detail in as possible." "And that film came up quite quickly, didn't it?" "Yeah." "Helen, you just played a real-life person in "Woman in Gold."" "How was preparing for that different?" "I don't know if the woman you played was still alive when you did the film." "No, she had passed away, actually, by the time we got to make her story, which is very sad, she never got to see that." "Yes, of course it's different, because you have a responsibility to kind of look like them and sound like them and maybe walk like them, and use your hands like them." "My aunt, Adele." "My uncle commissioned Gustav Klimt to paint her." "That's quite a painting." "It's magnificent." "She was taken off the walls of our home by the Nazis." "And since then, she's been hanging in the Belvedere gallery in Vienna." "And now you'd like to be reunited." "Wouldn't that be lovely?" "Well, it'd make you a rich woman, I'm sure." "Do you think that's what this is about?" "The great thing about playing a real-life character is, you don't have to make up all that backstory stuff, and I-- truth is always so much more interesting than fiction, isn't it?" "But the essential journey is exactly the same, really, as with a fictional character, which is a jo-- a journey of imagination, I guess, and the journey of telling a story." "Jennifer, you've now made three films with David O. Russell." "How is it different working with the same director so many times?" "Does that help things?" "Incredibly." "We have such a shorthand." "I actually had to apologize to this director of "Passengers,"" "'cause I kept interrupting him." "And I didn't even-- Wasn't even meaning to be rude, but David can start to talk and I know exactly what he's gonna say." "You said to me that David Selsnick, the son of immigrants, married Jennifer Jones, an all-American girl from Oklahoma, because in America, all races and all classes can meet and make whatever opportunities they can." "And that is what you feel when you reach into people's homes with what you sell." "You said that." "We have such a shorthand, and it's so honest, because we don't have to go through the getting-to-know-each-other period... (all vocalize agreement)" "Being polite to each other." "It's just" " It's just real and immediate." "Um, it's incredibly-- I want to work with him, um, until one of us dies." "And you probably will, damn it." "(Stephen) He's very good." "Jane, you did a very brief role in "Youth,"" "but a very defined character." "Al Pacino said, "There's this role that was, like, written for you," but another actor was cast in it." "So when the other actor dropped out," "I hadn't even read the script, but I said to my agent," ""Go after it for me." And I accepted it because" "I wanted to work with Paolo Sorrentino." "(Stephen) Yes." "Because I thought, you know," "I didn't get to work with Fellini, you know, or Antonioni, and so this is a real opportunity to work with somebody who's very special, very different, and I loved "Il Divo" and "The Great Beauty."" "He won an Academy Award for "The Great Beauty."" "And so when I read the scene finally," "I thought, "Wow, this is great."" "How many years have we known each other, Mick?" "Jesus." "Put me on the spot." "Let me count." "53 years." "How many films have we done together?" "Nine." "Ten!" "Eleven." "So after 53 years of friendship and 11 films together, you don't think I'm gonna start to (bleep) you now, do you?" "You, of all people." "No, I don't." "I wouldn't deserve that." "That's right." "You don't deserve it." "Is it harder when you do something brief?" "And how much do you think in preparing for it?" "It's sometimes very difficult." "You know, when you're a guest star on a TV series coming in, it's very, very hard, 'cause everybody has their rhythm, and they-- you know, and you're just kind of coming in." "But a scene like Sorrentino gave-- gave me in "Youth,"" "it's so complete unto itself, and it's so specific, that, you know-- it was pretty-- It was pretty easy." "Kate, "Steve Jobs" is a very theatrical piece." "If you did it on stage, how would you do it differently?" "Louder." "I'd shout, shout it out." "But it's-- (Cate) But it must have been so great to do those continuous, long..." "Oh, God, I can't-- ...takes." "I can't tell you, I mean, I really" "I wanted to be a part of this film because I knew it was going to be a very, very unique experience, and it absolutely was because of the construction of it." "It's written, as you say, in three acts, and so the only way to do that was to fully rehearse it like a play and absolutely learn it as such." "(crying) I love you, Steve." "You know how much." "I love that you don't care how much money a person makes, you care what they make." "But what you make isn't supposed to be the best part of you." "When you're a father, that's what's supposed to be the best part of you." "And it's caused me two decades of agony, Steve, that it is, for you... the worst." "We wouldn't have been able to retain that dialogue," "I don't think, and to feel free with it, if we hadn't have drummed it in and really drilled it in the way that we did in rehearsal." "We had 10 full days of rehearsal for each act and then..." "Mm-hmm." "Wow." "...we would stop rehearsing, and go and shoot it." "And then production would stop, and we'd go back into the rehearsal room." "(Helen) Oh, so that is really close to theater." "(Charlotte) That's very unusual." "It was so unusual." "Yeah, very unusual." "Like Sidney Lumet used to do that." "(Charlotte) Yeah, Sidney Lumet did, absolutely." "He did exactly that." "Really?" "You rehearsed it like a play, and you ran it, and then you went and shot it." "I'd only done it once before on something that I did with Roman Polanski, but this was completely different, because it did call for everybody to be in the room." "By the time we walked onto the set, we were already on performance 70." "We weren't on day one or day two." "Wow." "And that was a real lesson, actually, because how confident everyone was." "We were given, fully given, the roles to play." "That was an amazing experience, to have that." "♪" "If you need advice for your business," "LegalZoom has your back." "Our trusted network of attorneys has provided guidance to over 100,000 people just like you." "Visit LegalZoom today." "The legal help you can count on." "LegalZoom." "Legal help is here." "Big news!" "The new Sprint LTE Plus Network is faster than Verizon and ATT." "To celebrate, we're gonna cut some prices in half." "Switch to Sprint and save 50% on" "Verizon," "ATT, or T-Mobile rates." "So start the new year off right and switch today." "♪" "Welcome back to "Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter."" "We're talking with the actresses in this year's most buzzed-about films." "Do you look at other films and think," ""Okay, I'm gonna draw from this performance,"" "when you do your own, ever?" "I do, yeah." "(Stephen) Huh." "I take from people all the time." "So, can you tell us an example?" "No, not really." "But it's the same" "That's what we do, or what I do, with-- with people." "You just watch them, you know?" "I didn't ever go to, like, acting classes or anything, you can just watch people." "I always think on screen, babies and animals, are my inspiration." "Really?" "(Cate) Their freedo" " Well, because of their freedom." "They are so brilliant, aren't they?" "Babies and animals." "That's because you once had a pig and" "No, no, no, it's because they are so alive and there, and not messed up in their heads the way I am, you know." "(Stephen) Are you?" "Yes, all the time on a set, oh, God, absolutely." "you know, like, "Ugh, well, that was terrible,"" "and "Oh, I didn't hit my mark" and..." "Do you all feel like that when you're performing?" "(Helen) Oh, my hair's wrong, whatever." "(Stephen) That" " That?" "Yeah." "(Brie and Carry) Yeah." "But that's part of the-- That's part of it." "(Helen) Yeah." "And all you need is one moment of flow, and then you're back and you're addicted." "And so-- You know, and say, well, what if it could all be like that, but it" " I can't-- It's monkey bars, you know, you're constantly reaching for that-- that-- you know, that moment." "It's like, one of my favorite moments is on stage when you see a dancer leap, and you think they're gonna-- They're flying!" "And then they fall." "Yeah." "You know, but it's that moment of suspension that you-- you look for." "And sometimes you get it and sometimes you don't." "(Kate) I'm always inspired, quite literally, by actresses who are older than me." "I mean, really, truly, I am, because I know that that person has lived so much more life than I have, and to bring that amount of history to the screen through a character, it takes energy," "takes, I think, probably more energy than when you're younger." "When you're younger, you've only lived a certain amount of life and you have your stuff and your little emotional toolbox, but as you get older-- I mean, I know this, having had children, and Carey, you'll know this, like," "the next role you play-- I'm so excited for you, because you'll go, "Oh, wow!"" "(Stephen) Watch out." "There's a whole other toolbox here I didn't know I had been given." "But I do find that with-- I mean, your performance in" "Well, in "45 Years," did you find" "Oh, God, Charlotte, I mean, it's" "Charlotte, was it harder playing that than it would have been when you were in your 20s?" "It would have had to have been called "10 Years."" "(laughter)" "Not harder, but it was supercharged." "What I want now is for you to... just come to the party tomorrow." "Of course I'm going to come." "And I really need you to want to be there." "Yes, I do want to be there." "Because it's one thing me knowing" "I haven't been enough for you." "It's something... altogether different that everyone else feels it, too." "Why, y-you really believe you haven't been enough for me?" "No, I think I was enough for you." "I'm just not sure you do." "I was like, you, Kate, when I was younger," "I was actually looking forward to getting older, to have more insight, more understanding, maybe some understanding, maybe some-- obviously, much more experiences." "Do you feel you have more understanding now?" "Yes, I do" "I'm much" " I'm much more tolerant with others and with myself, which means that" "I have got to a certain understanding." "I'm not in rebellion all the time," "I'm not angry so much." "But they're useful, all those things when we're younger, all those feelings, they're really useful, 'cause they fire us, they lead us on as long as they don't get out of control, and then" "They're not unlivable, but they're useful feelings, those very strong, strong feelings that we have." "What makes a great director?" "Communication." "Confidence." "Freedom." "Someone who listens." "(Helen) Prepared, prepared." "(Brie) Like what makes a good dad." "Where you feel like you can really just, like, go for it and do the big swing, but if you strike out, they're like," ""It's all right." "Just try it again."" "Yeah." "I felt for so long that it was this awkward handshake, it was like," ""Oh, okay, director, I will perform for you."" "And the director's like," ""Okay, yes, and I will support that and also judge you at the monitor."" "But then, as I got older," "I went, "Oh, actually, that's just my dad issues talking."" "This is actually more of a symbiotic relationship, and in fact, any time I had to do a big, huge scene," "I'd be like, "It's gonna be bad."" "Oh, I do that, too." "I just felt the need to just be like, "It's gonna be bad."" "I'll just completely blow it out of the water, probably be way too much, but at least" "I did it and then I got the badness out." "(Cate) No, but it's also-- by saying that, you're creating the space where you can say," ""I might (bleep) up here, but if I (bleep) up, I might discover something."" "Yeah, exactly." "(Cate) Which you could use." "And so you have to embarrass yourself in front of everybody." "(Jennifer) Yeah." "Because in doing that, you go," ""Okay, now we can all start!" Anything can happen." "That's why I have trouble with" "I find rehearsals, like, embarrassing, I'm like" "It's hard." "I don't like acting unnecessarily." "It embarrasses me." "Yeah, roundtable readthroughs, I find... (Kate) Excruciating." "...excruciating, and" "(Kate) Terrible." "Yeah." "Have you acted on stage?" "Which is half acting." "No, I never have." "Would you?" "I" " I would, I don't know-- I don't know anything about it." "I'm scared of it, I don't know if it's a different animal," "I don't know if it's the same animal." "(Jane) It is." "I don't know." "Both mediums feed each other." "I know more, now, how to use a wide shot, because of" "(Helen) Because of theater, yeah, absolutely." "Working in a frame on the stage and I know much better how to be present and immediate and intimate with a six" "Or, you know, a thousand-seat house because of doing a close-up." "But when I watch you on screen, it's your eyes and it's your soul, everything that's" "I do that-- doing that." "Yeah, you have crazy eyes." "(laughter) Thank you." "Wow, you did that great." "Scarily great." "Yeah, that's my big trick." "But you're so-- you embody somebody completely, and it's subtle and it's all here." "(Stephen) Jane, do you like watching yourself on screen?" "No" " Uh, no." "No." "Although I do." "I mean, I watch dailies." "I remember" "I produced "On Golden Pond,"" "and I was curious that Katharine Hepburn never went to dailies, and I said," ""How come you're not coming to dailies?"" "She said, "A point came with 'Lion in Winter'" ""where all I could see were the wrinkles..."" "Wow." ""...and I realized" ""that I had lost the ability" ""to see what was right for the movie, and I've never gone to dailies since."" "(Cate) Wow, that's great." "Which I think was interesting." "I go anyway." "(Jane) How many times have you seen "Room"?" "I've seen it four, and I want to see it more." "Why?" "Because it means so much more than my little brain can comprehend when I was making it." "(Jane) Uh-huh, uh-huh." "Like, I lived it through Ma, so now I can see it as a bigger picture." "It's like, the more I watch it, it feels like my view gets bigger and I see it." "Do you learn from watching yourself?" "I never learn anything from myself." "(Stephen) Have you?" "But..." "I'll" " I'll kind of like, probably like an athlete watches playback," "I'll see myself and I'll either see a habit, and see myself doing something and go," ""I don't want to do that," or, "that looks fake,"" "or "don't do that," or "you've done that too much."" "How many of you watch-- watch dailies?" "Dailies, that's sort of almost an old-fashioned sort of" "Yes, do they-- People have dailies anymore?" "(Jane) Name, dailies..." "Playback." "Playback, right?" "Is that what you mean?" "Like, in the moment" "Do you like to watch yourself, Jennifer?" "Do you watch?" "Um, I don't like to watch myself, but if we're just not communicating, then I'll-- I'll just say," ""Let me watch it," and then when I watch it, then I'm like, "Oh, okay, I know" " I know what to do."" "Right, yeah." "I learn so much by watching." "Yeah, I do too." "I know it's hard to do it, but I think it's really important to actually go back and watch yourself." "Like, "Silver Linings" was" "I find it easier when you're watching it in the moment versus after, 'cause in the moment," "I feel like I'm trying to fix something." "There's no real judgment of myself or what the product is, I'm just going, like" "(Jennifer) Yeah." "Or how to get to that." "I gotta get that thing that I really need to get across there." "(Carey) I can't watch anything." "(Brie) You can't watch them?" "I don't ever watch a single playback, I can't." "Not even playback?" "I can watch it, but I have to put my fingers in my ears." "Oh, I hate my voice, yeah." "Oh, yes, can't hear the voice." "(Carey) The voice is the worst." "Yeah, I can stare at my double chin all I want, but hearing this androgynous, like, voice, you can't even tell what sex I am." "Yeah, I really have to turn the sound down, or even when sound is-- the sound department are playing something back to check it." "(talking over one another)" "People are, you know, mucking around getting a cup of tea and the whole performance" "(vocalizing) Switch it off!" "♪" "It took dozens of prototypes." "Hundreds of crash simulations." "Thousands of hours of painstaking craftsmanship." "And an infinite reserve of patience to create a vehicle that looks, drives and thinks like nothing else on the road." "The all-new GLC." "The SUV the world has been waiting for." "Starting at $38,950." "♪" "Welcome back to "Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter."" "We're talking with the lead actresses of this year's most applauded films." "Are you ever afraid of acting?" "Yeah, all the time." "What about everybody else?" "(Jennifer) Oh, yeah." "Yeah, of course." "Absolutely, it never stops." "And don't you hope it doesn't?" "(Helen) Younger actors say, you know, "Does the fear go?"" "No, sorry." "(Jane) It gets worse." "It gets worse, actually." "Jennifer, how about you?" "I never feel like I have it." "I'm always terrified before every movie, because I go," ""I haven't found her, I don't know yet." "I don't-- I don't get it."" "But how do you do it, actually, until you start doing it?" "It's just immaterial until then." "Well, and it's not real yet." "(Charlotte) It's not real at all." "I think rehearsal and all of that stuff," "I like it, and I'll do it, but it still doesn't feel real..." "Yeah, exactly." "...to me yet until it's go time." "When I read the script or in rehearsals or in anything, it's this very annoying thing that I've learned about myself, it's not until I'm in costume and sometimes, unfortunately, it's a week into the movie." "Oh, wow." "(Kate) Just a week?" "And then I find her." "(laughter) And then" "Or I'll watch the movie and be like, "Oh."" "(laughter)" "♪" "♪" "Welcome back to "Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter."" "We're sitting with Hollywood's leading leading ladies." "Several of you live away from the epicenter of Hollywood." "Is that easier or harder?" "Charlotte, you live in Paris." "Yeah, living away from the epicenter?" "(Stephen) Yes." "Has that hurt your career, or...?" "(chuckling) I don't know." "I think I'm doing fine." "What do you all think?" "(laughter)" "You know, you make choices." "You make life choices." "If Jennifer wants to sort of be private in her houses," "I like to be private in mine." "We can all protect our lives." "If we don't protect our private lives, then we're not actually gonna be able to get out there and do what we do, 'cause as we've said before, we are so vulnerable out there." "We need to be vulnerable, that is part of the game, that is the price we pay, and we go out and we do it, whatever the consequences, we do it, so we have to have somewhere to come back to" "to be safe and to be literally, just sort of go like that, which-- with our kids, it's great, we can have the kids to do it-- they bring us-- they bring us the reality that we need." "Have you always been as brave an actor as you have been lately?" "(Stephen) That's a great question." "I don't think I'm particularly brave, Jane." "Oh, my God." "It's nice of you to say, but I don't think I'm particularly brave." "(Stephen) What is a brave actress?" "I think being an actor is being brave, actually." "Yeah, what did you mean by brave actress?" "What is brave for an actress?" "It's just putting yourself in a situation that is so vulnerable." "I mean, when Kate was in" "What's the name of the movie that you did in" " With Harvey?" ""Holy Smoke." When she walks out, it's nighttime and she walks out of this building, stark naked, and urinates on herself." "(Stephen) Oh, wow." "(laughing)" "You know, I mean... (Cate) That's brave." "One of my finer moments." "(laughter)" "(Jane speaking indistinctly)" "Was it real pee?" "No, it wasn't real, it wasn't real." "It wasn't?" "!" "How though?" "So wherever" "Because you can't piss on cue, Jane." "(Cate) Where did you" "Where did you put it?" "How did it happen?" "Speak for yourself." "You can't keep doing it on cue." "Yeah, exactly, yeah." "No, we did" " No, we did actually do a pee test, because of course, I did want to actually do the pissing part if I could, but you know... (Jennifer) So committed." "(talking indistinctly over one another)" "When you" " When you stand up and pee, it doesn't go in a nice stream right down the center, which is what they wanted." "It just" " It just races for sanctuary down one side of your leg." "Yeah." "So actually, that didn't work, when we did the pee test, and I really did pee down my leg." "So what we did was, we hung" "We hung a bag of saline drip fluid and dyed it slightly yellow." "It was tied to the back of my hair on a small thread, and it just sat happily in the base of my back." "And then there was a little tube, which was wedged a certain somewhere." "And did someone activate it remotely?" "(Jennifer) Wow." "(Kate) And someone activated it, yeah." "Did you wedge it or did someone else wedge it?" "Who had that-- Was that credited?" "(laughter)" "I wedged it, but I had to say," ""Okay, wedge, check, check?"" "(Brie and Carey) Oh, oh." "(Stephen) Is there anything you wouldn't" "(Kate) The things we do." "Is there anything you wouldn't do as an actress?" "That's more, brave, I think, than peeing on yourself," "Who put the tube in?" "It was actually" "Who put the tube in its place?" "It was a scary moment." "But he's asking if there's anything more." "(Stephen) Is there anything you would not do as an actress?" "I mean, after having done that," "I don't think, you know, you would-- you could say." "Well, there are things-- See, to me, that's not brave." "Th-That's just kind of going," ""Oh, (bleep), you know, get on with it."" "'Cause you kind of have to." "I mean, the things that I" "I personally feel I wouldn't do, is I wouldn't be a part of anything that had... acts of violence towards children." "That's something I wouldn't do." "I don't think I'd also do a horror film, either." "(Stephen) Hmm." "I don't know why, that just doesn't sit well on my self." "Oh, I love horror films." "(Kate) Do you?" "I love them." "Do you find them funny?" "(Jane) Do you?" "No, I don't find them funny, I find them scary." "(Jennifer) No." "Yeah." "But it's-- I think it's those gratu-- those gratuitous moments, though, when you feel like," ""What is this adding to the conversation?"" "Or "Why is this woman getting beaten up for no reason?"" "Or "Is this gonna pay off?"" "Or if there's anything degrading or-- (Jennifer) Yeah." "Yeah." "You know, there's plenty of girlfriend roles out there, but sometimes you read those roles, and I certainly" " I've" "They've come my way and" "And many people have turned them down." "I think, "Oh, maybe I could do something with this."" "And it's interesting when you get those roles which seem like nothing on the page and you kind of subvert them and you make them into something." "I mean, it's hard to say no." "Have you said no to doing something on screen?" "I don't think so." "I mean, I've skinned a squirrel." "I'm" "If I was gonna say no." "Not a real squirrel?" "It was" " Uh, no, not a" "Of course it was a real squirrel." "I didn't kill it, but anyway." "No, not yet." "I would." "What's been your toughest moment as an actress?" "I had my first real sex scene a couple weeks ago and it was really bizarre." "It was really weird." "When you say "real sex scene,"" "you mean penetration or-- No." "(laughter)" "No, yeah, like, thank you for clarifying that." "(laughter)" "Real-- Yeah, that's normal, right?" "Yeah, it was-- It was weird." "And everything was done right, it wasn't anybody's fault, nobody did anything wrong, it's just a bizarre, um, experience." "How do you prepare for that?" "You drink, like, really-- I got really, really drunk, but then that led to more anxiety when I got home, 'cause I was like, "What have I done?"" "He" " He was married, and it was gonna be my first time even, like, kissing a married man, and, like, guilt is, like, the worst feeling in your stomach, and I knew it was my job," "but I couldn't tell my stomach that, so I called my mom, I was like," ""Will you just tell me it's okay?"" "It was just very vulnerable and you don't know what's too much, and you don't-- you want to do it real, you want everything to be real, but then you're like..." "And did you have-- Did you have direction?" "Yeah, I had direction." "I don't-- Was it fun?" "Some of it was fun." "(Jane) Yeah." "Carey, what about you?" "What's your toughest moment been?" "I don't know, it's sort of weird, like, there's always the things that you think are gonna be tough, like, you know, I've been nude once and I was like," ""Oh, that's gonna be a nightmare,"" "and actually, that was kind of fine." "You know, it's that kind of "(bleep) oh, and now I'm naked and everyone else isn't, this is hilarious."" "But it's never a single thing." "(Jane) I mean..." "I feel very lucky because I've always had things in my life that were as important to me as acting." "For me, it was activism and other things." "What keeps you awake at night, then, if it's not acting?" "Melting ice." "♪" "If you're running a business," "LegalZoom has your back." "Over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started." 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"Right under this tree." "♪" "(Man) Some things are worth holding onto." "They're hugging the tree." "(Man) That's why we got a Subaru." "Or was it that tree?" "(Man) The twenty-sixteen Subaru Outback." "Love." "It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru." "♪" "Welcome back to "Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter."" "We're talking with the actresses from the most talked-about movies of the year." "Is it hard to find good roles?" "Is there a shortage of good roles?" "A woman who's older, it's very difficult, yes." "(Brie) Yeah." "Older means over what age?" "In Hollywood or in real life?" "(Helen) Well, very relevant question... (Jane) Well, I mean" " I think-- ...exactly because the two are connected." "I'm told over 40, although I" "What I did when I was in my 40s is," "I simply made my own movies and produced my own movies, 'cause no one offered me anything, and so that worked out." "But certainly, you know, after 50, it's hard for a woman, which is why television is such a welcoming thing." "A lot of female writers in television." "Independent movies, it's easier" " Huh?" "A lot of female writers in television." "(Brie) I mean, I had been" " Started acting when I was seven, and I was always wrong." "I wasn't pretty enough to play the popular girl," "I wasn't mousy enough to be the mousy girl." "So, I never fit in." "I wasn't a cliché, so I never got anywhere with anything, and it was really painful." "I was just gonna say, I'd just like to add, I" "I think it's hard for young women, too, and it's very interesting Brie saying," ""I wasn't pretty enough to be the pretty girl, and I wasn't unattractive enough to be the dorky girl."" "I'm sorry, but there's lots of other different roles for young women, than the pretty girl or the" "There's so many different ways to be." "Do you see what I'm-- So it's" "But I think that's what we're all doing." "I think it's hard for young girls as well." "That's the paving the way, is, like, finding the roles that have the complication, instead of it always being, like," ""A woman is just like this." ""She's the one that's always got it together,"" "or, "She's the" " She's the dedicated housewife," or" ""She's the wild one who smokes cigarettes and sleeps with anybody," like, you can be both." "So much is made of, you know, good, strong roles for women." "Actually, it's really interesting playing vulnerable people as well." "(Helen) No, those are the best." "But also, people always say," ""You played such a strong character."" "And I" " Someone said that to me when I played a role in "Shame," and she was, like, a suicidal mess." "Yeah." "And I said, "She's not strong at all, she's incredibly weak." What does that mean?" "But strong, to people, means real." "It means that you believe that that's a person who exists, as opposed to some, you know, two-dimensional depiction of women, which is these dorky girls and..." "Is there a male role that you wish you could have played?" "Oh, there's always male roles I want to play." "I'm so annoyed when I watch movies and go," ""That could have been played by a woman, and that could have been played by a woman."" "There's nothing to stop that being a woman." "And it's driven me crazy in my career to watch wonderful, brilliant actresses, my contemporaries when I was younger, really, their careers kind of diminish and disappear, and mediocre actors carry on-- male actors." "I think Sandra Bullock is doing that now." "It's so annoying." "Sandra Bullock is saying, I'll do it" "Just change the name is all you need to do." "You know, that's all you need to do." "And then, all this crap about, "Oh, I can't," you know," ""Oh, I can't write roles for women," "I just don't understand them."" "It's like, you don't have to." "I had that opportunity with a director and I was saying," ""This is a really interesting script," ""and it would stop it being formulaic if you had a woman playing one of that-- one of that team."" "And they're thinking, "Yeah, we have to rewrite it."" "and I said, "You don't have to change the dialogue." No, no." "Absolutely, of course not." "You know, and I think that's the thing is, they have to write it with a female sen" "What is a female sensibility?" "(Helen) Right." "No, absolutely." "How diverse are the films that we're, you know, that we're all in this year?" "When you did "China Syndrome,"" "that was a role written for a man." "Mm-hmm." "And you said," "I'm gonna play it and it became a woman's role." "Mm-hmm." "Did they change it a lot?" "Yeah, we did." "We changed it a lot." "(Stephen) Jennifer, you've written about the pay gap between men and women." "I sort of find it interesting you're taking a stance on issues, like Jane, you did" "Very brave, for much of your career." "has there been a backlash to you in writing your opinion?" "Um, I mean, there's always a backlash in everything that you do, but it's not gonna stop or change anything." "It didn't change" "Well, nobody would have had backlash against you, right?" "(laughter)" "I think it's getting better." "I think the road is definitely narrowing, but it's not only an issue in Hollywood, you know, when you're asking about roles for men or women" "Men certainly have a longer shelf life." "Men can play the sexy lead for 20 years longer than we can." "But that's just because it's mostly dudes in charge who are deciding that." "Yeah!" "No, no, you're fine, but the chicks, mmm." "(Jennifer) Yeah, no, men are still sexy when-- yeah." "But it's lazy thinking across all industries." "I mean, we're at probably the most public end, but what industry do women receive equal pay for equal work?" "Well, across all fields, women are generally paid 21% less than men." "What can you do to change that?" "Talk about it." "Make people aware of it." "I mean, that was all I felt like I could" "I could do." "(Kate) Mm." "I'm not the only actress talking about it." "I love the way you" "I love the way you wrote about it, because you wrote about it very... very simply and personally, and-- and recognized your own reaction, and I so" "I so recognized that thing you said about," ""I didn't want to be an (bleep)"..." "Yeah." "...you know, "I didn't want to--"" "You know, "I wanted to be polite."" "We've got to stop being polite." "Mm-hmm." "I've always said, if I ever had children, which I don't, the first thing I'd teach a child, a girl of mine, is the word "(bleep) off."" "That's very un-English." "Well, quite British, actually." "(Helen) But you know, just to say you can take a stance, it's good, and that I've been too polite" "I so identified with what you said, absolutely." "Thanks." "Of wanting to be charming, wanting to be nice, wanting to be, you know" "Yeah, it's really commendable how you have taken your own situation and really been extremely articulate with it." "I mean, hats off to you, Jen, really." "Yeah, absolutely." "(Stephen) But we spoke before this roundtable, and you were saying that you..." "Didn't like it." "(laughter)" "The British thing in me, on a red carpet, with a journalist there with a microphone in your face, you just go, "Oh, I don't want to talk about money!"" "(Jennifer) Oh." "Yeah, yeah, I get that." "(Kate) Don't you think, really, I mean, it's" "I don't know how you guys feel, but" "(Brie) Yeah, well, you don't have to." "It's" " No, there's-- It's definitely a British" "(Stephen) Is it money or is it sexism that you don't want to talk about?" "No, money." "It's absolutely the money thing." "(Jennifer) Yeah." "Because" " And it literally is that question, truly." "I mean, it's very hard." "At a roundtable like this a couple of weeks ago, a journalist full-on said to me, "Do you know if you got paid less than Michael Fassbender?"" "I never want to be asked that question." "(Jennifer) Yeah." "I never want to have to answer it." "And that side of it, I do find vulgar, because what it does is, it lifts the lid, and suddenly, journalists are asking questions that are really uncomfortable to answer." "And it is a British thing." "You know, we are taught not to talk about money with your friends, let alone publicly." "So that's why I've had a little bit of a hard time with it, just because it's meant that the questioning has actually become really aggressive." "(Jennifer) Yeah." "♪" "Nobody Move!" "Get on the floor!" "Do something!" "Oh I'm not a security guard, I'm a security monitor." "I only notify people if there is a robbery." "There's a robbery." "Why monitor a problem if you don't fix it?" "That's why lifelock does more than free credit monitoring to protect you from identity theft." "We not only alert you to identity threats, if you have a problem, we'll spend up to a million dollars on lawyers and experts to fix it." "Lifelock." "Join starting at $9.99 a month." "♪" "Welcome back to "Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter."" "We're getting the inside story from Hollywood's most accomplished actresses." "Jane, if Lee Strasberg hadn't liked you, what would you have done as a career?" "I probably would have become a landscape architect." "Oh, wow." "Yeah." "What about the rest of you?" "Brie, what would you have done?" "Oh, I quit many times." "It was too hard." "So I went back to college a couple of times." "At the real depths of it," "I wanted to be an animal trainer." "That was, like, a real low point." "It was a very low point." "(Cate) For all you animal trainers out there." "That was-- Sorry, but that was..." "What triggered the lowest point?" "There was a TV show on Showtime that Toni Collette was starring in and Steven Spielberg was the creator of, and Toni Collette was my absolute hero." "She's amazing..." "Yeah, she's so wonderful." "...because she was the first person that I really watched disappear into roles so much so that I didn't even know she was in the same movies." "And so when this role came, and it was to play a girl who was struggling with identity and who was a little bit of everything, I thought, "Oh, this is" ""This is what I was supposed to do." "Everything was leading up to this moment."" "I was 18, I was like, "This is it."" "And I tested for it and didn't get it, and I was so, so devastated by it." "It's a very weird thing." "I mean, it's super surreal being at this table right now, because my dream was, when I was seven" "Everybody has dreams." "And there's a lot of people that dream of being an actor." "It's just too hard." "And it's very vulnerable and it's very draining." "Do you find the same thing, Carey?" "Yeah." "I mean, I think it's always felt, without sounding wanky, like, vocational, and, um, I remember when I did "The Seagull,"" "there's a line, Nina says, um," ""I'm a proper actress now, and when I think about my vocation, I'm not afraid of life."" "And that's always kind of-- I think, it's sort of a way of dealing with life, um, you know, something that you love and something you love doing, but also, it does," "like, make sense of everything for you." "(Stephen) Jennifer, you had success very young." "Did you ever think of giving up?" "Did you ever think," ""I'm making a mistake with this profession?"" "No, I didn't think that I was making a mistake, but I did-- I had a five-year plan." "I was gonna give it five years, and if that didn't work out," "I was gonna go back to Kentucky and become a nurse." "Really?" "Yeah." "Hmm." "Um, and I still think I'm a doctor." "(Stephen) Would you have been a good nurse?" "I think so." "(Jennifer) I really think" "You'd be a great nurse!" "I mean..." "Thank you." "I don't know if I'd let you put me under, but..." "No, no, no, I'm not good with math." "Okay, that's not-- I wouldn't want to deal with, like, your Propofol, but... (Brie) But, yeah, you'd make a great nurse." "I think I have great medical instincts." "(Stephen) What else would everybody have done if you hadn't acted?" "Did you ever think of other jobs?" "Because you started early, too, Kate." "Your family were actors." "Well, my dad was an actor, and-- and my older sister is an actress." "I very much remember thinking," ""Well, of course I'll do that as well." ""My sister's got a new bike, well," ""I'd better have a go on that bike."" "It was sort of a little bit like that, really." "But I never imagined," "I never, ever thought of myself as an actor who would be in films, ever." "I always only thought of myself being lucky enough, maybe, to be cast in a play, perhaps, or a musical, and maybe to get the odd episode of "Casualty."" "I mean, I really" " I never thought bigger than that." "And my backup plan was probably to do something with children, to have, um, either started a nursery school or work with underprivileged kids in some way." "That was what I always, I don't know," "I suppose I had in my back pocket." "And still almost dream of maybe doing, in part, some-- in some way." "I've always got children at my house, always." "(Stephen) And with that, we're gonna wrap." "I'd like to thank all of you, really, so much, for just a wonderful roundtable." "I so appreciate it, very, very much." "(all in unison) Thank you." "And you managed to get us all to at least mention our films." "(Stephen) Really, excellent"