"The old enemy is back." "Disintegrate!" "And in a fetching new shade." "I think the blue one's my favourite." "Cleanse the unclean!" "It's all-new Doctor Who." "What's the other thing we haven't changed?" "Let's change the Daleks." "And all that stands in their way is one man with a blue box and one man with a cigar." "Group Captain!" "Go to it." "was to do a sort of 45-minute Bank Holiday war movie." "Mark Gatiss takes us to Churchill's Cabinet War Rooms..." "We don't know how lucky we are." "..for an inside view on how the war was won..." "I would urge anybody who can to come and visit this place." "..and how Mark pitted The Doctor's deadliest enemy against the best of British." "the Daleks feel as though they're part of it." "badder and brighter." "more brilliant." "Doctor Who - every monster gets a bit better every time." "the Doctor Who team are filming the nerve centre of the British war effort." "Can I just ask everybody to go to their start positions?" "B Camera." "And action!" "Action!" "At last!" "Are they ready?" "I hope so." "In the meantime... ..this will pick up Dalek transmissions." "'We are the paradigm of a new Dalek race...'" "It's him!" "It's the Doctor!" "Nice paint job." "I'd be feeling pretty swish if I looked like you." "Pretty supreme..." "He's got company." "New company." "We've got to hurry up." "Group captain!" "Go to it." "scramble." "over?" "you beauty!" "over." "side of the ship - blow it up." "Group Captain - send in all we've got." "over." "sir." "Over." "lads." "sir!" "ALL CHEER" "Cut." "Cut!" "This episode has been written who has been asked to work his magic on World War Two." "I remember I took him out for a drink" "I want you to do the Daleks meet Churchill"." "OK..." "I don't think he immediately leapt at it." "Ooh." "obviously it is." "really. but particularly about sort of doing my own Dalek story and contributing..." "continuing the mythos." "but actually he's been a brilliant match and absolutely adored writing them." "that pan in... it sort of does something to you." "'To be in anything by Mark' a treat because I'm... I'm really starstruck." "and he's so good in it." "he's so good." "I grew up over there." "A tiny flat above a butcher's shop." "It'll have a blue plaque soon - "Richard Lazarus Lived Here." "It's gone." "the bombing." "Of course." "do you remember? firestorms." "And it's lovely to have such a great big fan write the show." "I think... that gives it great heart." "And I think Mark's episode is full of heart." "really well." "I knew he'd do his research cos Mark always does." "I knew he'd get that part of it right and I knew he'd get the feel of the wartime characters brilliantly." "Mark visited the Cabinet War Rooms in Whitehall." "Confidential took him back there to experience the real nerve centre of the British war machine." "Cressida...? which preserves the original Cabinet War Rooms." "How far are we beneath the beating heart of London?" "Only about 10ft." "Disappointing." "Yes." "People here would have felt they were a lot lower down." "And there is how much concrete between us and the pavement?" "there's a great big slab protecting us a bit." "and they moved in here more permanently during the Blitz in 1940." "because it's fantastic." "but somebody has cleverly adapted it to make a cigarette lighter." "like in cars?" "So obviously that filament lights up." "and naked flames just wouldn't have been a good idea." "You could actually plug your sat nav into that." "let's go inside." "So this is the Map Room?" "Yes. and has one of those big tables with a map of southeast England and WAAFs pushing..." "That obviously never happened." "aren't they?" "But not here." "Those would have been in the RAF bases." "bringing all the different services together and co-ordinating the information." "This was manned 24 hours a day throughout the entire war." "Good Lord." "in a fug of tobacco smoke and everything else?" "pretty much everybody smoked." "it's amazing they lasted through the war." "The map is absolutely covered in tiny drawing pin marks. which were coming across the Atlantic bringing battling against the U-boats." "So this..." "The entire place was sealed in May 1945?" "after the end of the war with Japan." "And erm..." "was left exactly as it was? were left exactly as they were and very few people came down here." "A few people requested to go on tours but it wasn't open to the public. or because they had a sense that it was an important place?" "I think they understood the historical value." "Yes." "Extraordinary." "they were keeping the score of the Battle of Britain from down here. when the tide of the battle changed finally in Britain's favour." "isn't it?" "They were realistically down here being aware that they could be invaded." "There are rooms further down the corridor where they were planning the defence of the country." "rifles?" "Down here they had rifles. but it's things like barbed wire on the beaches and things as well like that." "God." "We don't know how lucky we are." "found its own particular way to pay tribute to those magnificent men in their flying machines." "We've got to have Spitfires in space." ""How can we make that happen?" Danny Boy to the Doctor..." "Tally-ho!" "it's cool." "the Spitfire?" "It remains with you." "the team go into the studio for some camera trickery." "Danny Boy!"..." "A little bit like that." "to create the CG dogfight in space between the Spitfires and their pilots and the Dalek spaceship." "So what we did in order to help with those CG shots which is the cockpit and the main fuselage of the Spitfire." "Cut there." "Cut it." "in the green screen studio." "And this afternoon we're shooting the live-action element of what will become a CG Spitfire dogfight in space." "pull out!" "I wouldn't want to go in a Spitfire." "I just had a look in the cockpit and I just don't know how those guys managed to fend off the Luftwaffe in those things. you can't see out of the cockpit because the engine is so high in front of you." "those pilots." "Absolutely amazing." "over." "but in order to get to that place where you have to use the real thing. it looks pretty amazing." "It's "Print the legend" again." "Everybody thinks of the Spitfire as the plane that won us the war you know." "going in for another attack." "only in Doctor Who" "I think." "Spitfires in space and the TARDIS... over and out." "Only Doctor Who." "and that leader needed a war room." "So Churchill said he would run the war from here?" "Yes." "How much of it did he?" "this is the War Cabinet Room and he was here for one in ten of all the War Cabinet meetings." "So it's 115 times they met down here." "Blimey." "It's amazing to think what happened in this room." "Really important decisions and discussions on the bombing of German cities." "I'm sure it was very heated." "This is Churchill's chair?" "Churchill was sat in the middle here." "And we've got scratches on the end of the arms." "and he'd scratch the ends of the chair. they were very loyal to him." "But I think he liked to have his own way." "The air is filtered all the way round?" "just forced air from outside." "so very dusty and coming right down." "full of dust." "Yeah." "Full of dust." "So probably better not to... was telling us that she got really bad and had to stop working here because of the fumes from the filtration system." "Amazing. is that everything is a kind of nicotine colour." "The light is so low isn't it?" "Yes." "because obviously there's much more of our daily lives infiltrating them." "isn't it?" "it's a real place where they were making these decisions." "And so many people were working down here as their daily lives." "Extraordinary to get this close to history." "I would urge anybody who can to come and visit this place." "but it's an amazingly authentic experience." "very happy if people who because it's a testament to an extraordinary group of people and an extraordinary time. opens a door into finding out about history and about the Second World War in particular." "I think those who worked in the real Cabinet War Rooms it's not particularly pleasant and there's people constantly losing their loved ones." "sir." "And it must have been utterly exhausting but I imagine quite exciting at times as well." "and I think there's a lovely beat in the episode where there is real jubilation at getting one up as bad as the Nazis." "sir!" "ALL CHEER" "the Doctor Who team take a trip to an old army centre." "to recreate the War Rooms." "in West Cross. and we were just able to move in redecorate and create the fantastic space." "you know. down in the Mumbles." "It's..." "It's a purpose-built sort of command centre for during the war. and it's used as a training centre for various military exercises." "there's a TA centre." "We know of quite a few bunkers around Cardiff and Newport and in the script didn't quite lend itself for this. and just finally came up with this. but now it's all over Doctor Who." "on action." "Action!" "At last!" "Are they ready?" "I hope so." "But in the meantime... that's down to the minute detail." "But the space... the actual room itself is more of a command centre." "The mock-up of the War Rooms - they were better than" "I think." "They were brilliant. and quite sort of damp." "three months at a time." I just thought..." "Those scenes have great energy." "Lots of people coming and going and stuff." "It was just really interesting to think that and I suppose it was quite but it had this real feel to it that kind of made it feel really real." "PHONE RINGS" "Hello?" "who?" "seriously - who?" "for you." "and they're old friends." "It's... he actually has an ongoing relationship." "dear!" "What's up?" "Doctor." "Potentially very dangerous." "I think I'm going to need you." "Send in all we've got!" "what does he expect us to do now?" "of course." "What?" "Keep Buggering On." "Winston Churchill is kind of this great heroic role in the episode." "it's Churchill." "My old friend." "Ha!" "Every time." "which is why they get on." "very brave." "He and Doctor Who have got a great... because they go way back." "They've obviously worked with each other lots of times before." "Doctor." "They're old sparring partners." "but they're not afraid to say a cross word to each other." "Doctor!" "photographs." "He invented them." "no..." "No." "Yes." "And I think the Doctor actually really loves Churchill and will always go back and visit him." "The world's got Winston Spencer-Churchill." "Have a cigar." "No." "sir. and examine to what extent that was true." "We will mete out to the Germans the measure - and more than the measure - they have meted out to us. which is partly the reason we're still so fascinated by him. needed a man of his absolute pragmatism." "The extraordinary thing was he became absolutely the man the perfect war leader for the Second World War." "He's an extraordinary figure - a brilliant speaker... or the grisly gang who work your wicked will." "You do your worst... and we will do our best." "He was simultaneously illiberal... and curiously liberal in some ways. and never wavered from that. how often or in what direction he will set his murder machine in motion... he had extraordinary people around him. that the right person comes along. so to some extent you have to be very careful where you're treading. because Doctor Who is not the place really to examine those sorts of things - you can suggest his pragmatism." "despite the fact the Doctor is telling him that the Daleks are" "I can save lives." "So that sort of thing was interesting to play with." "But I did... because it's an adventure series. to meet Winston's rather..." "unexpected allies." "Action!" "sir!" "fire!" "LASERS FIRE" "Show me what that was!" "Advance." "Our new secret weapon." "Ha!" "that frightening sort of... there's no way that this person could possibly be that kind or that nice or that sensible or that anything." "So it's fear and anger and terror and annoyance." "This is one of my Ironsides." "Your what?" "You will help the Allied cause in any way that you can?" "Yes." "Until the Germans have been utterly smashed?" "Yes." "And what is your ultimate aim?" "To win the war!" "They are appearing to be something other than they are." "they are khaki Daleks with these Union flags on them and they appear to be a British secret weapon." "And part of the fun of writing them like that is to give them things they could never normally have." "They're servile and... they offer people cups of tea." "Would you care for some tea? in a Dalek's voice box is rather thrilling." "Can I be of assistance?" "Shut it." "# Because we are your friends" "# You'll never be alone again come on come on come on come on. #" "We seek only to help you." "I think Russell T Davies has said that there is something very World War II about them." "but they do do that. definitely." "The idea of the original story is a very Nazi concept." "And the concept of total Dalek racial purity leads to a new paint job for the new kids on the block." "I love the new Daleks." "too." "and we wanted more of them. because you just know it's going to be fun. the resurrection of the master race." "they're really cool." "what do we do now?" "Either you turn off your clever machine or I'll blow you and your new paradigm into eternity." "And yourself." "Occupational hazard." "different classes. great deep voice." "You are the Doctor." "You must be exterminated." "sweetheart." "I still can't quite get my head around the fact that" "I was the director that got to shoot eight Daleks in one room together. to have the new Daleks." "Scan reveals nothing." "TARDIS self destruct device non-existent." "but I was promised tea!" "they're like these massive..." "They are taller than me!" "so they've made them huge bright colours. that's what the story is about." "The last of the Daleks are trying to find their purest form." "So it gave us an opportunity to restore them." "The Progenitor is activated." "It begins." "they sort of go away again they're always with us. and an eternal - mmm... because they're all drones." "Cleanse the unclean." "Total obliteration." "Disintegrate." "and we were particularly specific that those names must never reveal too much." ""I can't think of any more." "I don't know." "but it sounds cool and I bet it's really important." "I bet you that Eternal will be really important in a future Doctor Who. the new operators are put through a Dalek driving school." "What we're doing here today is we're trying out the new Daleks for the first time." "We've got some new guys to go inside them as well. using the plunger and the gun and all those sort of things." "of course." "yeah." "so let's start off with some quite straightforward stuff." "Heads to the left." "Just glide between these two white posts." "that's good." "indeed." "That's very well done." "Give it your best shot." "Beautiful." "Textbook stuff." "I'm very impressed." "they're much bigger." "We haven't seen Daleks this big before." "but also I think they move in a much more sort of menacing fashion because they're just so big and they're so heavy." "and we're having difficulty stopping them!" "The stopping distance is considerably..." "I hope we don't have to come down a big slope and hit them. and I think that... you know how uncomfortable it is so it's much better." "isn't it?" "it is." "Very good." "It's like a family." "It's like a little family getting back together." "I wanted them to be very colourful." "suddenly." "those two films you know?" "I'm terribly fond of them." "And there's something so gorgeously impressive big bloody Daleks with their colourful liveries." "They kind of look like Minis." "You kind of feel like you can get in one and drive one around." "everybody else thought the same." "You can't go too far with that design." "We tried a few different things that were a bigger departure it's not a Dalek now"." "you need that eyestalk." "But it was time just to have a different...a different... noticeably different and more frightening Dalek." "We'd initially designed the original Daleks for the new series so that the eyestalk was the same eye height as Billie. which meant we could make them much bigger." "So that's exactly what we did." "And there's a lot of Art Deco in there." "shapes to them." "They're much stronger." "Most of the things are still there." "The sucker's there." "The eyestalk's there." "The little round bombs on the sides are there." "I think." "Blimey." "What do you do to the ones who mess up?" "of giving them a living eye." "there is this creature. he does talk about the eye being live inside there." "And it never really happened." "There's one or two moments using an iris contracting. why not actually remind people there's a living thing in there?" "There's a nasty squidge of matter." "I imagined there's an optical nerve all the way up and through his eyestalk." "You have a living eye sitting inside there." "I think." "HE SCREAMS" "The Daleks are scary." "I think because we're all aware of the ruthlessness of them and they will just exterminate when they can." "I think that sort of knowledge of them really scares me." "They're very exciting things to be around because..." "Look at them - there's one now." "I'm sort of in love with them." "That's the problem." "but..." "It's like when I saw the TARDIS for the first time" "Wow!" "It's the same with the Daleks." "There's something so striking." "don't they?" "you know?" "Churchill's a British icon." "The Union Jack is a British icon." "Everything about the War somehow is." "It's our noblest hour surviving that Blitz." "the Daleks feel as though they're part of it... in their design." "They just look so right." "it's scary how right that looks." "And I'm going to prove it." "I'd been to that underground bunker quite shortly before we started work on that episode and I couldn't get out of my head that how seeing a Dalek would look so appropriate motoring around those desks and maps." "Doctor." "with our backs to the wall." "Invasion is expected daily." "I was just really excited to see who was going to play him because he's such an iconic figure in history." "And then Ian McNeice came in and did this great version of him." "So I will grasp with both hands anything that will give us an advantage over the Nazi menace." "Ian McNeice was great." "Very funny." "Me and Karen loved him." "I've never seen such a fine uppercut in my life." "My whole 65 years." "That's Winston Churchill telling me that." "It's true." "It's true." "Since Rocky Marciano. and fun that's in there as well." "it's very ironic and quite funny and naughty." "Bracewell." "Are you a man? I tried to get the essence of the man." "He was such an incredible iconic character that it's a tough call." "So not everybody will get what I'm doing but it's really the essence of the man rather than an impersonation. all those things you've got to put into it and try and give an overall feeling of Churchill. there's so much news footage and stuff like that." "too." "it's a challenge." "It's a huge challenge to try and pull all that off." "Churchill had a journalist's eye for a great quotation and a way of making words land for maximum effect which I think he basically perfected once he was into Parliament." "'We can fight in France." "'We can fight on the seas and oceans." "'We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air.'" "The voice is based basically on a lot of the speeches that you can still hear." "'We shall fight in the fields and in the streets." "'We shall fight in the hills." "'We shall never surrender.'" "The cadences go up and down like that." "really." "very... very Churchill." "'..so bear ourselves but if the British Empire and its Commonwealths 'men will still say 'this was their finest hour.' he times it like a piece of music." "You know... this was their finest hour"." "you actually sit up." "And then actually it fades away." "you know?" "It must have been an incredible thing to listen to." "I think." "You only have to look at how rarely a politician's speech actually makes people get stirred or emotional or proud or anything these days." "Being a good politician requires having good people around you." "Churchill recruits the brightest of the bright. to back up their story." "But he has a sort of Pinocchio-like existence because he remembers real things." "They made me." "I can remember things." "So many things." "The last war." "awful misery of it all." "It came as as much of a shock to him as it would to any of us." "I think that stands to reason that he would be upset." "A camera only." "Background action." "Action." "Doctor!" "HE SCREAMS you're a bomb!" "An inconceivably massive Dalek bomb." "What?" "!" "a captured wormhole that provides perpetual power." "The Doctor is trying to get Bracewell to engage with his humanity." "he's a human being." "And if he thinks human thoughts that this bomb won't explode because he'll be able to control it." "isn't there?" "There's always a blue wire." "Or a red one." "You're not helping." "It's incredible." "He talked to us of his memories of the Great War." "Someone else's stolen thoughts implanted in a positronic brain." "tell me about your life." "Have you ever fancied someone you shouldn't?" "And it's really a sort of..." "It's actually the one that's most likely to make you feel the most human." "It hurts so much." "good." "Brilliant!" "Embrace it." "That means you're alive." "They cannot explode that bomb because you're a human being." "You are flesh-and-blood." "They cannot explode that bomb!" "You are Professor Edwin Bracewell." "You are a human being." "Hey." "Paisley." "Ever fancied someone you know you shouldn't?" "What?" "doesn't it?" "She saves the day again in a very brilliant way." "But kind of a good hurt." "I really shouldn't talk about her." "Oh!" "And she just very tenderly allows Bracewell to remember." "What was her name?" "Dorabella." "Dorabella?" "!" "It's a lovely name." "It's a beautiful name." "Edwin?" "Such a smile. he is an alien and he's from another planet." "makes up for that." "And that's why they make such a good team." "Her eyes..." "Her eyes were so blue." "Almost violet." "Like the last touch of sunset." "I'm very fond of it as an ending because it's not just about having a huge explosion." "You actually have all the grandeur of the Spitfire dog fights and the Daleks in space." "the thing that saves us is a piece of common humanity which is probably the most human thing of all." "Dorabella." "I'd read an awful lot of stuff." "I admired enormously anyone who'd been through that war." "my admiration had gone through the roof." "It's the most extraordinary period." "It's sort of..." "Almost everybody was amazing in their small way." "However they coped or didn't cope." "It's the sort of thing we simply can't imagine today." "The idea that you would see someone like this maybe everybody else in this room is dead." "I was reading some extraordinary things about the RAF. a lot of them would just get utterly hammered." "Understandably." "But the next day they had to be back in the air." "go and sit in their planes and put their oxygen masks on just to sober themselves up." "This is the way the war was won and it was a... hair's breadth between victory and defeat." "Absolutely extraordinary time." "I suppose it was a bit like if everybody had a newborn child." "People would go to work and they hadn't slept at all because of the bombings." "everyone got rattler and more filthy and exhausted." "And then they got used to it and then some people got slightly more scared and other people got incredibly blase." "They started to quite enjoy it." "People go through all kinds of odd things. and probably did then." "it's an amazing time." "Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd" "E-mail subtitling@bbc.co.uk"