"This script was created by decoding a tv teletext stream to build coloured subtitles" "(STRONG WIND BLOWS)" "(SCREECHING BIRD CALL)" "That's not fair." "Come on." "You said yesterday." "That's not my fault." "Come on you lot, chop chop." "op!" "Chop chop!" "Anyone seen my overalls?" "There's some clean ones in the back," "Oh, thanks." "Andy, Josh, it's ten past." "(TRAFFIC REPORT ON RADIO)" "Where's Andy?" "don't know." "Who's moved my rucksack?" "it was in the way." "Right, Jade, I want you in the car." "And you, love, come on, let's go." "I'm tired!" "All right." "And I'm hungry." "Andy!" "We are going now." "I'm coming." "Have you got your bus fare?" "ee you later." "(CHILDREN SQUABBLING)" "Come on, Chris, you're always late." "e." "Got your recorder, Jade?" "Mum, it's not recorder day today, w." "(TOOTS HORN)" "(DOGS BARK)" "TV: # Become good friends" "(KNOCK ON DOOR)" "(WEST COUNTRY ACCENT) Mae, get that." "(FOOTSTEPS)" "Is your mum in?" "'s inside." "(FOOTSTEPS)" "Mum." "Oh, bloody hell, not you again!" "That's right, me again." "Well, what's that?" "A warrant to search nd the garden." "Excuse me." "Mum, what..." "What's going on?" "I don't know." "Well, what are they all..." "come in with search" "(CLATTERING) you great lummock!" "What, then, are the signs of abuse which social workers should look for" "These may be physical, ts and bruises." "But they may also be behavioural." "or aggressive or unusually introverted?" "Is there an unspoken atmosphere of e?" "(RINGING TONE)" "It's me." "That interfering bloody arsehole" "She'd got a search warrant this time." "You better have your story straight." "And anything you need to do," "Hm?" "(FOOTSTEPS)" "(LOCAL TALK RADIO)" "(PHONE RINGS)" "Hello." "Speaking." "Oh, right." "So you want me to come in now?" "Er...no, no, fine." "Erm..." "Half an hour?" "OK, then, bye." "That were the police." "They need an appropriate adult." "You know, it's that thing I for." "You lot don't listen to a word I ?" "Janet Leach?" "Yeah." "This way, please." "Detective ing for" "(CLAMOUR OF VOICES)" "Janet Leach, the appropriate adult," "Sorry for calling you in at this ." "Probation and Social Services liable." "Do you mind if I ask who it is?" "ar-old man." "With learning difficulties?" "Well, all I can say is that we've n appropriate" "Oh, yes." "You have done this before?" "have done the training." "Ah." "Carry on." "Howard Ogden, solicitor." "This taped interview is being ster Central" "I'm DC Darren Law and my colleague" "DC Hazel Savage." "d could I have your name, please?" "Frederick Walter Stephen West." "And your legal representative..." "n." "And acting as your appropriate" "Oh, Janet Leach." "You're here to observe the interview y and also to advise Mr West and tion with him." "I understand." "Super." "The date is Friday 25th February 16:57." "I've got to remind you, Fred, r caution and that you don't have to say wish to do so but anything you do say n evidence." "Do you understand?" "Yeah." "OK." "You were arrested earlier today re in relation to the murder er Heather." "Could you tell me what you know ?" "Well, Heather wanted to leave home, and she'd been knocking about" "That's a mini skirt not a Mini car." "And we were pretty sure so me and Rose said, "Hang on a sec, you'd better think about this, girl," "So next morning come up and..." "She'd been crying and..." "So Rose says, "Let her go."" "She said, "I'll go to the bank and d" "So, Rose goes off and I'm left in the" "She's got her hands on her hips, you" "I say, "How about you get a flat up" "You can have girlfriends up there."" "And she said, "If you don't let me" "I'll give all the kids acid."" "That's LSD, like." "And I said, "Well, that ain't very you threatening to do that ters."" "like a sort of smirk, like, "Try me and I'll do it"." "So I just lunged at her like that and HFFFFFF}like that, and held her there for..." "I don't know how long ecause..." "It's surprising how long you can hold until they..." "But I can't even remember to that but the next minute she's gone blue." "And I'm looking at her from head to" "I put her on the floor and I'm r but she kept on getting bluer" "I hadn't meant to hurt her" "I'm thinking, jeez, I've got to do" "So I was going to put her in the" "Then I thought I'd put her in the but I couldn't get her in there," "You know, with the two prongs at the you use them for cutting blocks of and I cut her legs off, and..." "I mean, that was...unbearable." "Yeah, I can still hear that in my" "And then I cut her head off, and... cos, well, you're not going to take a when she's sat there looking at you," "And then she fit neatly in the bin, HFFFFFF}garden, behind the Wendy House." "Then I take her suitcase and stuck it behind the vet's on St HFFFFFF}chucks their rubbish." "Then I got Heather from behind" "And I been meaning to come down here but I never got round to it." "Can I ask if the appropriate adult's" "Oh, quite all right, thank you." "DC SAVAGE:" "Let's get this clear." "You're saying you killed your intentionally." "DC LAW:" "What sort of grave are we" "Just a hole about four foot square." "is hole?" "Well, Heather." "many pieces?" "Three pieces two legs, a head and a" "LAW:" "That's four pieces." "Are you happy to come to the house she is?" "Yeah." "Why didn't you tell us all this d?" "I wasn't ready." "Or is it cos we're carrying out a raid we might" "No, no." "You see, all this is causing and the thing I'd like to make clear knew nothing about any of this." "The time is 17:08 by my watch is ended whilst arrangements are made ell Street." "This notice explains what happens to" "Can I have a word?" "Yeah, sure." "Is Rose here?" "No." "I've a feeling she's in the building." "." "I just wanted to make sure you're OK." "Er..." "Yeah, yeah, I'm fine." "(SHOUTING)" "She is here." "I thought they were taking her" "This way, Mrs West." "evable, you lot." "You're fucking unbelievable!" "(RINGING TONE)" "Hello." "hi, love, it's me." "Is everything all right?" "JOSH:" "Yeah." "Have you had tea?" "Sort of." "You might have to put Jade to bed." "ou?" "I told you, I'm at the police" "I'm helping the police with an" "What investigation?" "Yeah, the press office are working on" "I can't talk about it." "I'm really t to go." "I'll see you later, all right?" "Bye." "(FRED'S VOICE)" "DC LAW:" "What, overalls?" "FRED:" "Standard police issue, are best." "Damn stuff drive you mad, it does." "What's that, then?" "reglass." "Been spraying this bloke's loft over" "We don't have back-scratchers , Fred." "Is the car ready?" "ou from somewhere?" "Erm..." "I'm sure you don't." "ook familiar." "(CHATTER)" "LAW:" "I'll be in the first car with or Mr Ogden." "Ain't just Heather I buried in that" "There's more." "More?" "You wouldn't believe it." "You have got to keep everything I ce." "But you're a good appropriate adult, hat." "DC SAVAGE:" "Mrs Leach." "OK?" "All ready?" "Let's go." "Right arm, please, Fred." "(TYRES SQUEAL)" "(DOG BARKS)" "(POLICE RADIO)" "Where's Rose?" "o Cheltenham Police Station." "That's a waste of her time and yours." "The work I put into this place!" "Knocking through here and building on" "Years of back-break kety-boo." "I need to remind you you are under stand?" "Yes, thank you, Hazel." "Now you show us where you buried ather." "The problem is remembering" "I'd try there." "Is Bernard still around?" "Get him back." "We need a pathologist." "See there?" "What?" "And there?" "What am I supposed to be looking at?" "OK, we're going to get a forensic" "We'll go back to the station now, and resume our interview tomorrow." "Is there anything else you wish to" "Yes." "Will the appropriate adult be" "Can you attend?" "Erm..." "Yeah, if you want me." "That's sorted, then." "She's been very helpful so far." "(CHILDREN TALKING)" "(CHILDREN'S VOICES)" "I said yeah." "Ssh!" "Come on, you said yesterday, right." "MIKE:" "Been on that job over at" "What a mess, I'm having to re-skim it HFFFFFF}take weeks."" "Hey, cut it out, you two." "(CHILDREN CHATTER)" "Mike..." "Hm?" "Have you taken them?" "ah, yeah." "Yeah." "Gloucester Police Station, February 1994." "The time is 10:38." "colleague here is..." "DC Savage." "Your full name, please." "Stephen West." "And your legal representative..." "n." "And acting as your appropriate FFFFF} Janet Leach." "You are still under caution." "stand?" "Yes and me and him just had an n." "I'm telling you now what I just told" "She's alive and well and possibly at" "She's been recruited to work runner." "They treat her like a queen." "She gets in touch now and again" "She's using a false name." "and I will not let her tell me." "Now, whether or not you believe in" "But that's why you found nothing and not even if you dig till Kingdom" "And I don't care how much money and" "Not just now but in the past." "ious allegations." "There was nothing in them." "gery of your children." "Which was never proven." "had me in prison, spat at by other prisoners, my o care, where trying to force me to admit that..." "Trying to get to the truth, Fred." "upside down." "And we'll do so again and the garden." "me..." "And we'll keep on searching" "All because of some remark der the patio!" "A remark made by your own daughter." "Anne Marie said it was a family joke." "To social workers who, like me, ly for a considerable time." "I'm just trying to get to the truth" "You're being personal and HFFFFFF} I'm neither." "Against me and my Rose, who loves .anything for" "Why are you saying this now, Fred?" "Last night you took us to the house and you showed us a grave." "You inconvenienced me." "So, are you trying to inconvenience" "You really saying there's nothing in" "Why are you smirking?" "Who's smirking?" "You said yesterday you wanted sorted out." "Then I spent the night in a cell in" "I want my children back, I want my a" "Well, let's just ask Mrs Leach, y, what she" "Erm..." "Well, he's clearly contradicting" "Did you hear that, Fred?" "And I saw the smirk." "(KNOCK ON DOOR)" "For the benefit of the tape, m." "Nothing more hurtful than someone your kids." "Bet you feel the same way." "Bet her." "That's completely irrelevant." "not, you see," "Don't you?" "(DOOR OPENS) Time for a cuppa, I'd say, Hazel." "We can..." "We can take a refreshment" "But first I'd like to discuss the that Detective Superintendent ouse." "What information?" "Well, like I said, I..." "I want to get all this sorted out." "Our pathologist is confident they're" "If I accused you of..." "me, then, Helen," "Are you sure you buried Heather" "You what?" "You didn't scatter any of her body" "Well, I can't think how that could ." "Are you suggesting it wasn't part of" "It must have been." "It was a thigh bone." "They've already found two thigh" "Heather didn't have three legs, did" "Well...do you have any knowledge ould have got" "Yes." "Shirley." "Shirley who?" "Robinson." "The girl that caused all" "The girl with the red mini." "Thank you, yes." "You see, she lodged with us, and... ..I had an affair with her she wanted to marry me and she said there was a bit of an argument, she ended up getting strangled." "And where was Rose at this time?" "In the hospital having a baby." "baby?" "Erm..." "Babs." "No." "Er..." "No, not Babs." "Erm..." "Young Rosemarie." "I'd come back from seeing Rose" "Shirley and I had this row and I" "How?" "ed her with a piece of flex." "Buried her in the garden?" "Yeah." "And her with a baby inside her, too." "Can't tell you how that's haunted me." "I mean, about the baby and... (SIGHS)" "In killing Shirley, the... ..the baby would have died, too." "(SOBS)" "Does anyone have anything else to" "The time is 11:06 and the interview" "Excuse me." "(SIGHS)" "(FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING)" "We've decided to leave the or today." "Oh, OK." "FF} Erm..." "Fred needs some clean clothes." "I wondered, could you go to the nd get them?" "Erm..." "Yeah, all right." "And whilst you're at it, could you t, too?" "We're still holding her at m." "Erm..." "Does he really have learning" "So why do you need an appropriate" "Detective Superintendent Bennett's there's no suggestion Mr West standing any of" "(CAMERAS CLICKING)" "Can you give us anything at all?" "Can you give us any information at" "(SHOUTING CONTINUES)" "In you go." "PC:" "This way." "Right at the top, I" "174, 174 Quebec Lima, over." "Quebec Lima, go ahead, over." "Can you do anything to improve access" "I'll look into it now, over." "OGDEN:" "Upstairs, I think." "342, 342, Quebec Lima, over." "Can you meet DC Kaminsky by the back for you." "You did know she works as a" "I'd worked that out." "Mm." "Clothes." "No, there's nothing in here." "(VOICES IN GARDEN)" "I thought you'd already searched in" "We're not the police." "the fuck are you, then?" "I'm your dad's solicitor." "I, who's this?" "Janet Leach, I'm acting as ult." "His what?" "We've been sent to pick up some clean" "Where is Dad?" "Cos no-one's told us" "Gloucester Police Station." "I'm afraid HFFFFFF}murder." "Murder of who?" "Murder?" "Then it'll be Mum, not Dad." "Don't say that about Mum!" "cking I like!" "Don't listen to him." "Mum's all" "Dad's the one." "Tell Mum I hope she's all right home." "Please will you do that for me?" "(ENGINE RUNNING IN GARDEN)" "(SHOVELS CLANGING)" "Mrs West." "} Jesus!" "You." "This lady's brought you some of your" "What?" "You've been to my house, in my things?" "We were just quickly in and out and Mae said that she hoped you were" "By what right, by what right, g bitch, do you go in my house and speak to out among my" "Rose..." "FF} Jesus Christ!" "Rose, calm down." "Who are you, anyway?" "Who are you?" "rs West." "She's got no right touching my got no right" "All we want is to get to the truth." "t." "You want me to say Fred killed our d him." "Did you?" "id not!" "How many ucking times?" "You've got nothing on me and you" "(RUMMAGES IN BAG)" "Don't...touch me." "Oh, what are you so fucking scared" "Little mousey-mouse, fucking goose." "I bet you're a dirty little lezzie," "Mrs West!" "Innocent, isn't she?" "I said don't touch me, didn't I?" "I told you not to fucking touch me." "Sorry about that." "all right." "Look, have a seat, I'll get you a r." "Occupational hazard, at kind of abuse." "It's not that." "What is it, then?" "Things have happened adn't expected." "What things?" "Has Fred said anything privately to" "I can't tell you." "I owe a duty of" "Of course." "But if he does try and give you ately, you can advise him to speak to me." "I know, I've done the training." "You'd better get home." "(BIRDS SINGING)" "What are you doing?" "It's Sunday." "I know." "They need me to go in again." "What?" "The police." "Bloody hell, Janet." "(PHONE RINGS)" "Hello." "Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm just going in" "Coping?" "Of course I'm coping." "Who says I'm not?" "Pull out?" "No!" "So, you're saying if I carry on, rt me?" "OK, fine!" "(CHATTER)" "I want that statement on my desk \cHFFFFFF}understand?" "Excuse me." "Can I ask, have you said ?" "What?" "The organiser of the appropriate er." "Yes, yes, I have." "Did you tell her that I wasn't up to" "No, I did not." "Cos she rang me and asked me pull out." "I explained it was a very difficult" "She's perfectly entitled ty." "Well, I won't." "Are you quite sure to carry on?" "Yeah, absolutely." "y well." "Janet!" "There's been a development." "What?" "Fred's indicated that there's he garden." "Who?" "0FFFF} A girl called Alison Chambers." "I suspect he's told us the body anyway." "I want him to point out the grave." "house?" "Er..." "Yeah, of course." "(CLANGING)" "(KEYS JANGLING)" "this here's where we found bones that you say may belong to Shirley" "Where did you bury Alison Chambers?" "Well, now..." "Let's see." "No." "I don't think I can get it." "Oh, hold on, hold on." "I'm picking something up." "Yeah, that's her." "Alison?" "Yeah, she's trying to tell me" "What's she trying to tell you, Fred?" "Where she is, but I..." "I don't think I can understand" "Yeah, hold on, hold on." "Erm..." "Yeah." "Try there." "Now that's your lot, you'll find no" "What about..." "Rena?" "Rena?" "FFFF} Your first wife." "And what about Charmaine?" "Charmaine?" "} Why are you looking at me like that?" "Rena had a daughter Charmaine, p-daughter." "Where are they?" "Well, you lose track of people, don't" "You said you'd lost track of , but you killed her and buried her, ." "You won't find Rena and Charmaine" "And even if you don't believe me, cos she understands me n't." "Isn't that so?" "How could I understand you?" "people." "Because you're a woman surface and a woman who knows remorse" "Not like you lot." "The police have found two more in Gloucester where the remains of the schoolgirl vered on" "Her father is charged with her" "The bodies are thought to be of but police say identification will" "They're checking registers of pie." "Our West Of England reporter Steve ls..." "Can I use that table?" "there." "Oh, yeah." "..the city's biggest-ever criminal" "Is this the thing you're involved" "Forensic teams have unearthed" "It is, isn't it?" "It obviously is, Josh." "She can't talk about it." "Do you think there are more bodies?" "I bet there are more, though, most" "Police have confirmed the man's wife charge." "Indications are that the police well Street could go on for many more days yet." "What's that number again, please?" "DC SAVAGE:" "Jacqui will show you out." "I know this is distressing but that lly useful." "We'll be in touch if we have any ." "Ready for another session?" "." "Who was that?" "Mr and Mrs Gough." "Gloucester couple whose daughter 20 years ago." "We found some belongings in the be hers." "You think she could be another" "Where's this going to end?" "it." "I said I'm willing to sort all" "I know I'll never go home again reinstated and Rose and the kids back home." "She can't go back home!" "You've released Rose." "She's with Mae and Stephen," "We're still searching the property released doesn't mean she's innocent." "This is all wrong, see." "Did Rose know about you Robinson?" "No, she didn't." "Living under the same roof?" "Rose as pregnant." "She didn't know I was the father." "she did." "I suggest she was jealous." "I suggest she helped you to kill" "We've found Shirley's body, Fred." "u where it was." "So, can you explain nside her?" "What?" "The baby has not been left intact" "I need to take a break." "DC LAW:" "The time is 11:45," "Back in a minute, Fred." "off, Mrs Leach?" "I need to speak to you." "r Ogden, of course." "I need to see that report." "That would have been Rose." "What would?" "The baby." "Are you saying that Rose removed the" "Oh, no, no." "No, no, Rose is a mother, that." "I can't do this." "Don't go, please." "Give me one good reason en to this crap." "I know you've suffered." "What?" "You don't know anything about me." "see it in your eyes." "You've not always been properly loved" "I've had enough of this." "You need to tell the police ng." "If you've killed other women, The girls'" "I'm not admitting nothing else" "I'm going and I'll not be coming u're my appropriate adult." "I don't give a shit!" ", please!" "Please, Janet, please stay!" "st." "On one condition." "You tell the police who else you've" "All right." "In writing, so you can't back-track." "I'll get Mr Ogden in." "Mr Ogden." "Yes?" "(CLEARS THROAT)" "Mr West wants to make a statement." "Saying what?" "Who else he's killed." "Really?" "Well..." "What exactly do you want to say?" "Go on, Fred." "Here, Janet, come and sit here." "OGDEN:" "So, what shall we put?" "Go on." ""I, Frederick West, authorise my ."" "(REPEATS) } "Howard Ogden..."" "Howard Ogden..." ""to advise Superintendent ..."" "Superintendent Bennett..." "Of?" "Of a... a further... ..eight killings." "Eight?" "All right, nine." "Erm..." "Shall we just put "approx"?" "That's it, "approx"." "Good girl." ""Of a further nine... ..approx, killings."" "Is this his signature?" "Yes." "These don't sound like his words." "Well, we drafted it for him, structions." "We?" "He made this admission following Mrs Leach." "I also got him to draw a map." "He said some bodies are in the r and there's a body in a field." "It's all a bit vague." "Others to be" "We've made a start, o they might be." "It's a huge breakthrough, sir." "Why did he come out with all of" "I told him that if he didn't start then I wouldn't help him any more." "That could be seen as putting him ." "How?" "I was just being honest and I because what he tells me" "You've done exactly the right thing." "I won't have to go to court, will I?" "Oh, I doubt that very much, Mrs ropriate adult." "You're here to assist Mr West." "See, the problem I have down here, is the high water table." "No matter how much concrete you put" "Let's see what I can do for you." "Hm..." "I don't know." "What don't you know, Fred?" "If I can feel..." "If I can feel them." "I can feel their spirits" "..I'm getting the same message from" "They're trying to tell me they're..." "They don't want to be disturbed." "This is a pile of crap!" "Either there are more bodies here t." "He's told us that there are." "He'd better not have come up impress you." "I don't think he has." "of getting pally with him." "I'm not getting pally with him," "Dig the floor up." "Take the house if you have to." "This is getting out of hand." "People will start thinking ckey out of us." "(DRILLING)" "Thanks." "Janet Leach?" "Yeah." "Can we have a quick chat?" "What about?" "What you're doing with the police." "Stevens." "Fuck off, Kirsty, I'm talking to ake any please talk to me." "What do you mean, decisions?" "ll Street." "You clearly know the inside story." "t?" "We have our ways." "I've got nothing to say to you." "(TV NEWS ON)" "It's me." "Hi, how's things?" "Look at this, it's a Jag XJ6 oupe." "What?" "FFFF} Yeah, there were only 6,000 made." "It's got full leather, automatic eed of 120." ""Immaculate throughout." ng of buying a car?" "He only wants four grand." "four grand." "We can get it, easy." "ow?" "The newspapers." "e through the door." "What?" "They want to buy your story." "It could be worth thousands." "the press." "I bet everyone else is." "Who?" "0FFFF} I don't know." "The police?" "How else does all this stuff get in" "It's a hell of a story, Janet." "It's out there" "Mike, this is ridiculous." "I'm doing this because it's vital," "That's bonkers, if you ask me." "Well, I'll..." "I'll have to rustle it then." "Is he all right?" "What do you mean?" "\cHFFFFFF}thing he starts doing, talking a lot, buying stuff he can't" "No, he's fine, he's taking his n." "Yet another takeaway." "Yeah." "We had to eat something." "ive you the money." "How long's this going to go on?" "I don't know, love." "(BIRD CALLS)" "(VEHICLES APPROACH)" "Oh, it takes me back, this, you know." "Right back to boyhood." "of grass." "That's Letterbox Field there." "We've come to search for the remains re not" "I know." "Lovely to get out of that" "Smell God's fresh air." "Try there." "OK, lads." "We're over here." "So, if you take that as your int..." "Wouldn't mind a wander over there," "Why?" "For old times' sake." "so special about over there?" "See, I love Rose and I loved Rena," "..Anna was the one." "Who's Anna?" "The true love of my life." "Anna was having a baby, too, but..." "That was a baby I wanted." "I don't understand." "Are you all right?" "I was just asking Janet about my" "Fish?" "My tropical fish, who's feeding" "Let's get you back to the nick." "Mike, have you bought it?" "Yeah." "It's not the one I went after," "It's just immaculate." "The bloke I FFFF}specialist." "How much was it?" "Nine grand." "9,000?" "You can't spend that kind of money" "It's fine, I got it on HP." "We don't even need another car." "in here?" "I got this new unit to put them on, HFFFFFF}fixings." "Mike, this is ridiculous, we're..." "Mike, Mike!" "What?" "We're not getting a new TV or a new" "Have you been taking your lithium?" "Yeah, of course, yeah." "Are you sure?" "No, you haven't, you've been missing" "You can't afford to miss any days, , kids," "Mike, the car is going back, the video." "Why?" "0FFFF} Just sit down." "Just sit down." "No." "Why?" "F} Just sit down, go and sit down." "Come on, love." "Come on." "I'm going to have to get you into ." "I'm going to go and call them now," "I warned you." "Just stay out of this, Josh." "None of this would have happened" "You'd far rather spend time with that" "Oh, hello, yeah, my name's Janet g about my" "Yeah, he's bi-polar and he's going to bring him" "(APPROACHING FOOTSTEPS)" "He's finally dropped off." "He's clearly got very ted, though." "It could take days, maybe weeks, ilised again." "I see." "Do you need me to stay?" "o." "Would it be all right if I came back" "Fine." "(ON TAPE) ROSE:" "I'm admitting nothing FFFFF}admit." "MAE:" "So it's all Dad." "m saying, Mae." "I'm as shocked about this as you are." "DC LAW:" "Rose has denied it to us, ter." "We've got nothing else on her." "s her in it..." "Janet." "Ready to crack on?" "Yeah, but erm..." "I need to leave at four, I've got er." "Did you engage them in istic acts?" "They were adventurous young girls." "So, how did you end up killing them?" "You even got the killing wrong." "You're trying to make out that I just" "It weren't like that." "aster." "We're all having difficulty g this." "Especially how these things can have owledge." "Rose was out." "Out where?" "Shopping." "Whilst you had sex, d buried them?" "She must have had of shopping to do!" "She does." "It's a fair old walk to" "Mary Bastholme." "Carol Cooper." "Lucy Partington." "Shirley Hubbard." "Those women didn't stay at your" "I don't believe they were known to red from bus" "(INTERROGATION FADES OUT)" "Do you know where you were, then?" ".." "Did Rose know about these sexual ?" "Did she participate in them?" "Did Rose kill Charmaine?" "ill no-one." "I killed Charmaine son." "For the last time, Rose had no part" "Your loyalty's very touching." "Do you think she feels the same" "Rose loves me." "You didn't mind her having sex with" "That's correct." "So long as you knew about it." "I always knew about it.FF}{\cH00FFFF} she was seeing male clients at another premises in Gloucester?" "What?" "FFFF} 22 Sunderland Street." "That's rubbish!" "n who et her there for sex." "Do you find that upsetting, Fred?" "There were things in Rose's life" "Sexual relationships she kept to" "No, I don't, cos you're making it FF} I'm not." "I bloody well know you are!" "Rose is all mine, she always has" "And I would know, if that ever changed." "Rose is my love, she is, and I ain't otherwise." "Sit down, please, Fred." "'re not helping yourself." "The interview is ended at 15:47 by my" "This suggestion that Rose West was West's any further disclosure about that?" "You'd better come to the office. want to be giving the correct advice" "Don't rush off, Janet." "I have to." "That's bullshit about Rose place." "I'm afraid I can't stay and discuss" "A man needs to know his wife has no" "Would you keep secrets from your" "I'm not married." "ky fella in your life." "Mind your own bloody business." "Please." "There's something I want to tell you." "What about her?" "In how many of them?" "Lots." "The things I could tell you about ." "I may have started it, but... ..she took over she liked." "I mean it." "She did took that baby" "That's the kind of woman she is." "If all that is true, how can you the police?" "For the sake of the family." "t understand." "We made a pact, see, that I would" "On the day the police come with the" "I was out, Rose called me to warn me." "When I got home, the police give us that I'd tell them it was all me." "And I know you think it's wrong that but that's the plan we made." "So she could look after the family" "Why did you just call me Anna?" "et." "I get confused." "My mind's spinning with all this... my family, my wife...home." "And you, you're helping me through" "You're my only friend." "I'm not your friend." "We're going on a journey together," "Neither of us knows nd but... ..we're on it together." "I have to go." "Mrs Leach." "} Yeah?" "We won't be needing you any more." "What?" "Your services on the inquiry" "Why?" "obliged to give reasons." "You can't just drop me explanation." "Yes, I can." "No, you can't, not now." "What do you mean, not now?" "I can't answer that." "Well, clearly you found all this very HFFFFFF}help." "I tell you, I'm sick of this, the ather caused and those fucking police, n at me." "What I done when, what your dad done fucking" "Well, I'm not taking the blame thing." "What you believe don't matter, Hazel." "(SHOUTING) Janet." "Please." "I thought I'd frightened you off." "What are you doing?" "I get the feeling that there's more I me." "I think there are more bodies." "I didn't kill Anna." "Believe me," "She guided me through you.hat you're talking about." "Rose isn't even here.FFF}{\cH00FFFF} in here." "She's in here." "For your own peace of mind, stop." "I can't." "itfc subtitles"