"LINIERS, THE SIMPLE LINES OF THINGS" "Two years ago, in early March," "I saw snow for the first time, in Montreal." "I arrived on a cloudy, - 20C day." "The city seemed deserted." "It was deserted for me;" "The three filmmakers I'd hoped to find had fled the cold for a few days, trying to shorten the six months of winter." "I had won a grant to film in Quebec." "One condition of the grant, was to share the house with another Argentinean artist." "I' d never lived with a stranger for so long." "When I started to suffer the seclusion and the powerlessness," "I found that I didn't have to brave the cold to tell a good story." "It was during that trip that I met Liniers." "Hello?" "How are you, Fabio?" "Fine." "I got a grant from the Quebec Arts Council and the Department of Culture in Argentina, who invited me over to work, so that's what I'm doing." "No, I'm in a studio here with a friend who also got a grant." "I'm looking outside, it's snowing..." "It's pretty cold, below zero." "And I'm drawing, writing, doing a blog that people look at and comment on." "Yes, so if you want to see the silly stuff" "I'm doing in Canada, it's all there." "I could do that over there, but it's different." "Better things happens here." "On the blog I write about the snow and it is much more fun." "I like it more." "OK, my man, take care." "See you." "Bye." "I don't have to work in a whole month, He!" "The Time?" "That's my place." "Oh, yes." "Never mind." "I never really accepted that this was your place." "You didn't, did you?" "No, because it always makes me feel a bit..." "Doesn't matter, I'll sit there." "You know what I think it is?" "No, Buenos Aires?" "In Buenos Aires this is your place," "I sit on your right, on your left." "Really?" "It's like a job, where you're cooped up all day." "I like that feeling of being in a womb, in a warm place, comfy, and everyone's freezing their asses off outside, angry and having a bad time, and me..." "I'm laughing away." "My job is drawing cartoons, all warm." "Let it snow." "I learned with watercolours, and computers came along, when I was older, so I could never get the same feeling out of a computer as I could get out of a water colour." "I'm a bit of a klutz with computers." "I'm like an old man, drawing with his own hands." "I'm like Geppetto." "And I like the idea of generic characters." "There's no José the Pixie, it's just "The Pixies", or "The Penguins"." "it's like billions of people being that character," "I liked that." "I thought it was weird for a comic strip," "I guess I loved these out of a kind of personal proto-communism." "SO YOU THINK YOU'RE AN individualist?" "I TRY." "IT HAD TO HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER." "THE PENGUINS HAVE ORGANIZED" "THE STATUS QUO IS ABOUT TO CHANGE FOREVER." "A PENGUIN..." "COMES DOWN..." "THE MOUNTAIN" "AND SUDDENLY HE GETS..." "HICCUPS." "HELLO." "DON'T FORGET TO LIVE, EH?" "WELL, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY." "LATER." "BLIMEY!" "THAT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE." "PIXIES DON'T GENERALLY BOTHER ANYONE," "BUT NOW AND AGAINTHEY'LL STEALA SOCK." "I started drawing the pixies, because I liked to draw those little hats and outfits." "I thought they would be pretty esthetically." "But I also wanted to create some characters that had no rules." "The penguins were Ok but they couldn't fly" "They weren't able to do anything." "However, pixies had no rules." "Olga is a boy." "I don't know how that started." "I think I was looking for it to be a little man, and drew a monster." "I liked him having a monster as a friend." "I called him "Olga"." "And then I realized he didn't have to say anything else to be funny." "It's like he decides what he says and that's what I like." "The boy understands him, like in "Lassie"." "When Lassie says:" ""woof woof", they get:" ""Timmy's trapped?"." ""Woof, woof!"" ""He's on the road?"." ""Woof!" -"A train ran over him?"." "You see?" "The dog only says: "woof"." "I think Flipper was the same." "Olga's like that." "Olga says: "Olga" and Martin gets it." "We don't understand from the outside." "COMING BACK BECAUSE YOU MISSED ME?" "MAKING LITTLE MEMORIES WHICH WILL BE IMPORTANT..." "WHEN I'M OLDER." "ANOTHER WELL-SPENT SATURDAY" "What I like about Enriqueta and Fellini is that they are the most complex characters." "The man in black is always mysterious, and there's the penguins, they're always penguins, not very complex." "But she could be arguing with Fellini one day, then another day she's having another day she's making an observation, another day might be slapstick, maybe she just falls over, so as a character I get a lot out of her." "There was a short circuit and the electricity cut off in the kitchen, so the freezer went off and all the food's gone off." "I'd left some fish for Santi in the freezer and the neighbors thought someone had died," "because of the smell." "My electrician said everything had to be rewired, but they wanted to save money and said:" ""no, we will only do the bit that shorted", so they only did that bit and now what my electrician said" "Another part has cut out, because the wires are all made of cloth." "They're from 1935." "I never thought of it as having to make jokes every day," "I thought of it more as writing a column, so one day I tell a story, another day I say something about whatever, another day I do a pretty drawing, just that, and it's like I've been given 10cm of blank space." "If you do a joke with a punch line every day," "I think people can see it coming a mile off." "When you lose the surprise in comedy or in art, when you lose that element, you lose everything, it's over." "I remember I once made this joke that I was 77 people every day." "And it's true, when I'm taking the bus I'm one guy, when I'm happy, singing a song, I'm another guy, and when I stub my toe I'm a terrible guy," "you see?" "In one day you go through a load of emotions of emotions and situations, and why shouldn't your work seem like that?" "At first I'd draw myself as I am," "So all the time I had the drawings attacking me whenever I appeared in the strip, or I'd be crying." "Humiliating and pathetic situations." "But when I started to draw myself as a rabbit," "I got over the burden of drawing myself as I am, so I was just a character." "It's not me, even when I draw myself" "It was very liberating." "It was so stupid to draw myself as a rabbit that no one was going to think:" ""this kid thinks he's Indiana Jones"." "That's kind of it." "It's a good disguise." "We lose stuff all the time." "It's torture." "It's terrible with books that you're reading." "You're reading a novel and maybe it disappears for two weeks," "so you have to read other stuff in the meantime until it reappears, it comes out of this mysterious vortex and "ping!", it appears again, somewhere you already looked, and you say:" ""But I looked here!"" "I don't like dirtiness, but disorder's interesting to me." "I would never have coped in a fascist state." "When the grant ended, Liniers and Angie stayed in Montreal longer and rented a flat opposite Mont-Royal Park." "In mid May, I came back to Buenos Aires." "After a long journey, life takes unexpected turns, as if faraway places have changed our way of seeing things." "Getting to know Liniers was like that." "I'd never been able to share as the intimacy of one character." "In the solitude of Buenos Aires, with a passion I hadn't felt for anything in a long time," "I started to explore his books and drawings." "HE THINKS HE'S INVISIBLE." "NO ONE CAN SEE HIM." "BUT NO ONE SEES ANYONE" "IN THIS CITY, THEY'RE ALL INVISIBLE." "SOMETIMES GUTIÉRREZ GETS OUT OF THE CITY" "AND GOES TO THE COUNTRY." "TO FEEL LESS LONELY." "HE WALKS AROUND." "WATCHING, WATCHING..." "SUDDENLY HE'S DEEPLY MOVED BY THE WAY" "THE TREE'S BRANCHES SHAKE." ""I MUST HAVE A PROBLEM", HE THINKS." "BACK IN BUENOS AIRES" "AFTER SIX MONTHS" "CAN'T STOP HUGGING FRIENDS." "You all right?" "Fine." "And you?" "Are you back here?" "I'm fine." "Can't complain." "It is a great year so far." "A documentary about what?" "About you, I know it started as a playful idea but I'd be very interested if I could..." "OK, you caught me with my guard down in Montreal." "I don't like being filmed." "But what is it?" "What's it about?" "about how I draw?" "That's no good..." "I'd really be interested, in showing you here, in an intimate way, seeing your creative passion as it happens in your work place, here where you're..." "Yeah, that worries me, what you say about intimacy, I don't know." "It's not a side of me that I like to show." "It's strange, I draw myself in the cartoon, but what appears in Macanudo, when I draw myself, I choose to show a more calculated version." "I show something very anecdotal and secondary." "You have to maintain the mystery." "As an author, writer, actor, you can't show your private personal life." "So I prefer to leave it as a mystery." "What would I show you?" "My kitchen?" "The bedroom?" "I don't get it." "Thanks." "Thanks." "If you saw my life the way I see it, it's so uninteresting," "I don't get it." "I don't know what to show for it to appear attractive." "You'll be pointing cameras and mikes at me and I won't be able to show you anything interesting." "I'm afraid you will waste your time." "And the other thing is, you don't want to show the character, you don't want to show the strings." "You have to believe that the puppet moves itself." "If I give that over to another person," "I lose control and it gives me a little vertigo." "I don't know what you're going to show" "It's Ok." "I know I draw myself in the strip, it seems like I'm very public, but I don't like being public at all." "I don't like being recognized in the street," "I don't like any of that." "Ok, no worries, thanks." "OK, Franca, I'm really sorry to disappoint you." "It makes me a little sad." "You're not angry?" "No, no, no." "It's ok, we'll do something soon." "Bye." "Bye, pretty." ""How do I tell her no?"" "I could've let myself be beaten by the frustration" "I could've thought of another story that made me forget about Liniers," "But, each fragment of everyday life, reminded me of his drawings," "of those beings, almost unnoticed that bare their souls in his cartoons and whisper their way round the city." "SOMETIMES ONE WANTS TO BE THE BLACKSHIP" "A'M AFRAID OF GOING ON" "With his drawings, Liniers helped me to regain the ability to surprise myself with the simplest of things." "I had to find a way to make my documentary without him." "Find other ways to tell this story." "Maybe through the impact his work has on others." "Through his characters." "Or from the remaining pieces of that shared world." "After various attempts, little by little, things started to change." "Hi Franca, how's it going?" "It's Ricardo." "I felt kind of bad about that time we spoke about your documentary." "It makes me a bit sad, I could see you were very enthusiastic, but I feel a bit weird about it." "If you want, I'm in my studio." "I made 5,000 blank covers and have to draw on them, so if you like, you can film me, half-hidden." "Take care." "Bye." "It was clear:" "to respect his limits, was the only way I have to get close to him." "Not to talk with him." "Just watch him working." "Although I didn't find what I expected to find" "That meeting allowed both of us to break the ice" "From that day, Liniers started to let me film some scenes of his public life," "But he asked me to stay out of sight as much as possible, sometimes I could only show him in the shadows, cut off, from the most uncomfortable places." "Here we are on "This business sounds fishy", program No. 36, first program in November, with Liniers." "We're going to make a little change today in the program, normally from 10.30 it's your space" ""The nervous column", since March." "Depending on how things go." "But today we're going to change that because we have a guest, right?" "Yes, a guest, someone who's had the good taste to invite me to participate very elegantly in his film." "We're talking about Esteban Menis, who will be with us in a few minutes, to talk about his film." "The film you're recording now, what is it?" "Is it with Esteban now, or when she says... how is it?" "No, this is a thing with the girls who are making a documentary." "Yeah." "Franca's thing." "Yeah." "So they've just come to spy on me." "Little Franca's there, playing the spy, the secret agent." "And this is going to end up as a kind of something." "Something?" "About what?" "A documentary." "Is it your story?" "Yes, but I'm kind of hiding a lot." "Poor Franca wants to catch me everywhere." "And I, no, no." "On Saturday I went out with my dad at 5.30am, to put up the posters you designed for my film - the big ones." "All along Bulnes, all round Alto Palermo." "Can you believe the next morning, dad walked his dog and there wasn't one left?" "And the guy who watches cars says:" ""You know what they do?" "They bring buckets of water, soak them and pull them off"." "Ah, they soak them?" "But they get them perfect." "Never again!" "Nice, nice!" "I don't care about your film," "I want my ego to be...resplendent." "I love it all the same, I love it." "I have six near home, so I walk past them..." "The big ones?" "The big ones, yes," "I lean against the post there and watch... and I saw this "Ñ" magazine that says" ""Isn't that...?"" "That's the title of this piece," "I'll read it to you," ""Is it him or isn't it?" "It's 3pm on a Friday, the kid is hanging around the Ateneo bookshop on Avenida Santa Fe"," "(bit of product placement, they'll charge them later)" ""he can't get up the courage to go over to the guy and glasses buying comic books who is with a girl in a miniskirt and leopard skin high heels"" "What an image." ""The man is perhaps the most influential person in recent decades, says the kid to himself as he stands behind him in the queue for the till." "The man buys several Liniers books, several!"" "Several Liniers books." "Make a note, so he has this pile of books," ""The man pays for them with his credit card and as he's leaving, the kid asks the shop assistant the man's name." "She doesn't understand, so he insists, he wants to know if the man who bought the books is The Simpsons creator, the assistant looks at the man's surname and nods, yes, it was Matt Groening" buying several, it says here," "and if "Ñ" says it, it must be true." "And Matt Groening was here, he stayed at the Palacio Duhau" "Yes." "Groening has made some money these last years," "Bart knows how much he's made, and he decides to spend some of that money on my books." "Are you joking?" "I read this and said: "Is he here?" "Can I send him sketches?"" "He could give me a job or something." "Very Good!" "And this one is for whom?" "This is for Emy." "Fellini is cool..." "I started studying law because my dad is a lawyer," "I thought I was having a great time." "I was young I and he'd take me to the office and I'd see him talking on the phone and I thought a lawyer's job was to go and talk on the phone." "The months went by and it got more and more terrifying." "At home they celebrated anyway:" ""Look how well this one turned out, now we only have to worry about the younger ones"." "The elder's going to set an example; good, good"." "And they went on like this." "Meanwhile, I started missing classes, my notes had more drawings than text." "One day I phoned my dad and said:" "Dad, we have to talk, man to man", or something dramatic like that." "And my dad said "OK, tell me what you want"." "And I go "It has to be lunch or anything, or I could go downtown and we'll meet and talk"." "Poor guy, all night he was thinking:" ""he got someone pregnant", suffering all night, terrified." "We sat down and I said:" ""Law's not my thing"." "And his face changed from this frown, all white and sweating, to:" "Son, you didn't get anyone pregnant?" "That's great!" "Look, you go out and find your calling and your passion and we'll help you." "You'll always have food at home, we won't kick you out"." "So the trick for you teenagers, if you want to frighten your parents, pregnancy drives them crazy." "I have my bed painted in pink." "Pink?" "How pretty!" "Pink's the best color of all." "Yes" "It's great, you're all pink too, we'll sign you here, on your belly." "First, this is for the opening." "That's great, this is for home." "And this has been traveling from Florencio Varela since 3pm, that was..." "You brought a dandelion!" "Look at that!" "Let's do the honours." "What's your name?" "Uriel" "¿ Uriel?" "Yes." "What a great name." "Let's have the cat laughing, let's give it a tail" "Liniers is playing Liniers, his character." "Maybe that's why he devotes himself so easily" "To other people's questions." "To his audience." "I wonder if someday I would be able to see him without any disguise" "Not playacting." "Do I regret any jokes?" "One time something weird happened to me with a joke that I should have told very differently." "I was in Canada, with the squirrels, raccoons, white wine, and I thought of a joke about an anteater that leaves a flower." "It's in this book, I think." "He left flowers for an ant he wants to pick up, or something, and the ant says: "this cannot be", and the anteater goes off crying." "And I called the anteater "Ramón"." "It was nice how it sounded." "And I started getting e-mails saying: "This is too much!" "What is this black comedy?" "you can't do that.", things like that, and I said:" ""the joke was sweet and inoffensive, what's the matter?"" "The week before an anteater here in the zoo" "I was in Canada and I didn't know, had killed a girl." "I said:" ""Oh no, what bad luck!", but the anteater at the zoo was called Ramón, so the papers here said:" ""Ramón the anteater kills girl, family grieves", and sure, a week later I publish a joke about an anteater called Ramón, with his flowers and I felt bad." "And you always think when you put out a joke, sometimes a lot of people read it and you worry." "Maybe you get unlucky, you put something about a plane crash and that day a plane crashes." "Or someone's head explodes and some guy's head exploded the day before." "If his head explodes he's going to feel bad and you worry about that happening, and you don't have much control" "But guessing the name of the killer anteater...!" "I have been following Liniers everywhere for many months." "I shoot many situations in hopes of knowing him better." "Hoping that he reveals himself, but I am not allowed to trespass that limit." "Before filming the scene, Liniers asked not to have a mic." "He wants to enjoy that meeting with his friends and peers" "Without feeling so exposed." "Sometimes I think that I'll never get closer to him." "But suddenly Liners wants to shoot a take together and I start to get excited again." "Someone hires someone else supposedly because they're creative. whatever to make a film, to act and generally out of admiration they say:" ""I love the last thing you did." "We want to hire you because I like what you do."" "So they take you on and straight away they put down limits to show who's boss." "Sure." "Do this, don't do that, do it like this and you ruin him, you break the guy who's talented, you have to..." "You're hiring him to surprise you." "Maitena took me to La Nación and said: "this kid's great", and I'd just been doing a weekly strip, so" "I didn't think I'd be able to do it daily, a joke a day for six years." "But I say yes to everything just in case." "Then I see how I get on." "But it was good that they hired me on my terms." "They said: "do what you like, if it doesn't work we'll fire you"." "But they never tried to get me to put in more or fewer punch lines, or feature one character more, or "we don't get this"" "or "we get this"." "Everything I did they treated with a lot of respect, and that's what I was saying, you need them to believe in you." "I should know more about cartoons than them because it's what I do." "Today Liniers agreed to have a talk with me, the two alone, in front of the camera." "I think that he is beginning to have confidence in my film." "He is beginning to have confidence in me." "Really, I don't know what I'll do in the concert." "I don't have the faintest idea until now I just drew and used the computer." "tonight I'll use acrylics and watercolors." "I don't know if it will be seen in the end." "Or if it will turn out to be a mess." "Or if I am going to ruin a mike with the paints." "I'm terrible it is the first time you are such an important character" "yes, now my name is on the poster." "I did the same before but my name was not on the poster." "It was singer Kevin Johannsen's idea to put my name on it." "Kevin is good at..." "Since I've known him" "I relate to how he works with two different things." "He changes the register between one song and another." "So he changes from tango to funk, to pop." "And this gives the impression that he likes everything." "And it's the same with me and how I work." "I get bored if I always do the same type of joke or a type of character or a type of drawing" "so I think he saw that in me and I saw it in him." "And we both said:" ""this guy's like me, but doing something else"." "Its's strange." "Liniers, who is very reluctant off screen," "Looses all his shyness once the red light of the camera is on." "Diego with a touch..." "Cosmic kite..." "Where the hell have you gone?" "Tatatatata..." "Goooal!" "Diego Maradona!" "Cosmic kite..." "I'm gonna hang myself..." "Little by little, without even noticing he starts to reveal what he usually doesn't." "Ang?" "I need a favor." "When you come, can you bring me a pot of white acrylic?" "I forgot it and it's very important." "It's there above my thing, it must be there somewhere." "Open it and check it hasn't dried up." "Eh?" "What time are you coming?" "OK, great." "Congratulations, I heard you had a baby girl." "Ah!" "You have no idea, it's so great!" "I heard." "So what's her name?" "Matilda," "Oh, I love it." "You're going to have a great time." "Have you read the book "Matilda"?" "Well, you're very sensitive." "He's going to be drooling." "If he cries, Juan starts to well up." "If you're like me you're in trouble." "I don't know how I'm going to bring her up." "She'll be:" ""daddy, please"" ""Yeah, don't tell your mum"." "Liniers!" "Stay there by yourself so you look like a hermit." "I'm concentrating." "Take off my shirt so you don't get it dirty, you're all dirty." "Kevin, my friend Franca." "How are you?" "A dear friend." "You remember when I went to Canada with a girl who makes documentaries?" "That's Franca." "We lived together for 2 months." "And we started filming at the time." "And she keeps on filming..." "That was when you split up with Angie for two months?" "It was when he lived with three women..." "Yes I was with the three, interesting group." "Excuse me, I don't want to push." "Evening!" "Hey, good evening Konex!" "Thank you very much." "Only at the end of the fall, do I think I am closer to what I was looking for." "This scene may be called:" "Liniers fostering his ideas out of the world that surrounds him." "Would Liniers have done the same if I hadn't been with him?" "He says yes, that he doesn't notice the camera anymore." "I begin to realize that getting closer to someone may only lie in patiently following the simple lines of things" "Excuse me, can I have your autograph?" "Here, sure." "In Chile I work with some of your cartoons to..." "Really?" "Yes, with kids." "And can you sign one of these?" "These?" "What's your name?" "Mariel." "What do you work with?" "What do you work with?" "No, no, I work with..." "Kids." "Right, I get them to write cartoons in a magazine, the kids did all these." "And can you sign another?" "This is for a friend, who..." "I'm going to give her a ring." "OK, what's her name?" "Valeria" "In motion, the only one I can do is Fellini." "Doesn't matter," "thanks." "I'm so happy!" "No problem." "You never know who you're going to meet on a bus." "hi love." "You alright?" "Fine, you?" "Fine, fine" "I can do a Thelonius too." "I love jazz, so..." "I was the first grandson and it was a miracle that my first name wasn't Liniers, which would have been far more traumatic." "It was slightly traumatic, but it was always a talking piece:" ""You're Liniers?" "Really?" "Ha-ha, how strange!"" "Until 3rd or 4th grade I was proud about it, saying "my name is Liniers"." "And in history classes, Liniers was a pretty good guy, the British invasions, the defense of whatever, all so heroic." "Then two classes later he was executed by firing squad." "And I remember, the kids turning round and jeering." "I was seven or eight and I got really depressed." "And I didn't distance myself," "I thought that he was my granddad's granddad, closer, as if my granddad had been shot." "And I got very sad." "I signed my drawings as "Siri" or "R. Siri" which was nothing." "Then I realized that I had this Liniers, which sounded familiar, it sounded like something." "Ideas always come." "Maybe they're not funny, or no good, or not great." "If you work, ideas come to you." "So I'm working all the time." "That's the trick." "There's not much mystery." "This was a classic thing when you were a kid, you wanted to go all the way around on the swing." "Which is obviously stupid but when you're a kid but when you're a kid you imagine it's possible." "You say "if I get to here, and go a little further, do I go all the way round?"." "But I thought it was a bit..." "If I just do the joke like that, it's dangerous for kids who read it and say:" ""mum, look, Liniers showed me how."" "And then I'll be in trouble with the mums, so I did that and had Fellini advising people not to do it." "When I'm drawing in pencil and the idea doesn't surprise me, I keep erasing and drawing until something appears that makes me sit up." "And when that comes, I want to draw it." "So if I always did the same, that would never happen." "The idea is it should happen often, so I have to do experiments." "And I can't be afraid of an experiment failing, if I wanted to do something and it came out all wrong." "But I need the security of being able to do that, because from exposing myself to error a lot of interesting things come out." "I admire loads of art to do with giant things, but I just can't do that." "I talk about little things." "They're what captures my attention." "They're easy to understand, which makes them more loveable." "Now, making something small and simple is harder." "This is the cartoonist's special power." "Creating an entity out of 3 strokes of the pencil." "There's this naiveté that I made an effort not to lose as I grew up, just for me, not for work, but..." "Maybe I didn't make an effort and just naturally never matured." "As an adult you see everything with cynicism, this recognizing reality for what it is deep down." "So once I was with a nephew, he was five and dressed as Spiderman, and he said: "I've got a joke to tell you"." "Because he knows I draw jokes for the paper." "And he said something so absurd and delirious that it was hilarious." "I said: "Go on, tell us the joke"." ""It's a cat on a skateboard and on an airplane"." "And he was dying laughing." "And I said: "what?"." "It was like a pure state of art what he was saying." "This 5-year old kid was Buñuel!" "and when I published it in the newspaper," "Felix's mum showed him and said: "look, you're in the paper!"" "and he saw it as the most normal thing in the world." ""Yeah, obviously, I told him to do that joke." "I don't know why you're all celebrating as if something strange happened"." "So like I said, for kids there's no cynicism:" ""I've come to tell you a joke so you'll draw it" "Hi Carlos?" "It's Ricardo." "How are you?" "I've just sent you the cartoon for tomorrow and the day after." "Yes." "I sent you the one for the day after too." "But I forgot the cyan, magenta and yellow." "One day I'll remember." "No that's fine." "OK, take care, bye." "When you see all the drawings together... it impresses you" "I think how the hell did I do them." "People always come to me apologizing:" ""I don't really get your cartoons", and I think that's fine." "I don't expect..." "Often they don't get what I do because they're looking for something that isn't there." "They're looking..." "They're used to reading cartoons," "Or looking at paintings, differently." "Or listening to songs differently." "They stand in front of a painting of a fork stuck in the ground and say: "What is the artist trying to say?"" "And they go crazy," ""It's the decontextualization of the fork and yadda, yadda"." "But they look at a cartoon in a paper and expect a joke, a punch line, something." "And I'm not like that," "I'm more into sticking a fork in the ground." "But it's a matter of being used to that." "So you develop a code with the reader, they're patient and keep trying and there's a moment when the joke clicks." "A joke works, for some personal reason, and then they're into it." "And usually when that happens they say: "up until this joke you were rubbish and suddenly you're great"." "It's not that they adapted, it's that at some point they clicked." "Let's put this here." "It is a very nice edition." "The Simpsons." "The great thing about Chaplin, when he's doing this, is the facial expression." "His face is like" ""this is the most normal thing in the world, completely natural"." "As if he was mowing the lawn." "And suddenly, he loses control," "he is like "la-la-la"." "He rubs his nose with it." "I like the others waiting." "I like balance in humor." "And I think I got that from Chaplin." "You get to a crossroads of being happy, of laughing or crying." "And you don't know which to do, because something terrible is happening to the kid, but he's doing it with this hilarious genius that it's like you're there, and that sensation is interesting, intriguing." "So yeah, if I can create this humor that has this undercurrent of sadness." "I like that a lot." "This is the first time I drew Enriqueta." "Let's put this up." "I'm kind of addicted to the blog because before my generation it was a job with a delayed effect." "When a footballer scores a goal, he hears the cheers straight away, and it must really give you a buzz," "I can imagine the goose bumps must be incredible." "With cartoons, this didn't exist before blogs." "You didn't draw a carton and when you were done someone laughed." "The blog is immediate." "When I post it, when I... finish it is when I'm happiest." "When I've finished it five days earlier and it comes out, it's done already, but as soon as I've finished one I put it on the blog and people read it and post comments like: "What?" or "Great!" "LOL!", or "What a load of crap!", but that reaction is good." "YOU'RE A GENIUS!" "TITAN!" "YOU'RE CRAP." "LINIERS TAKES IT UP THE ARSE FROM PODETI." "THANKS FOR BEING..." "ATHIEF!" "GO BACK TO BONJOUR." "GO BACK TO BONJOUR." "CAN YOU DRAW ME A TATTOO?" "Blogg-itis." "HI MATILDA!" "ANGIE GAVE ME PYJAMAS." "I HAVEN'T WORN PYJAMAS FOR YEARS." "IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A DAD." "During the making of this documentary" "You have transformed... ..from being a "wild boy" to having a family." "Yes." "It changes you, it improves you." "And it's scary at the same time." "Suddenly there's this tiny thing, all fragile and vulnerable and that's scary." "You look at your parents and say:" ""Wow!" "You guys got scared when I came, right?"" "So you see your parents in a different light." "So there's all that... but I recommend it." "Yeah?" "People have been doing this for a long time, all the same!" "I am not saying anything new." "But it is very nice." "And was she as you imagined?" "Did you want to be a father?" "Yes, yes" "I get shy when I'm asked about this." "Why?" "Because I'm shy with these things." "I like talking about my work, I get embarrassed." "This is like my hiding place." "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DRAW." "WHAT IF I DRAW ALL THE THINGS ON MY DESK?" "NO, BORING." "This is book from Macanudo." "As you can see," "They're all comic strips." "I drew this in Barcelona, I lived there a few months." "This is a free version of the Nou Camp." "I stuck in the cartoons from Bonjour when they came out, this thing about not believing that you're being published." "This book started as a sketch book, then it turned into a book where I write letters to friends:" "Dear Fabio, Dear Juan, all friends who I write to and I send them like this." "This is a sketch book, free sketches, where anything goes." "There are parts painted with red wine, coffee, so it has this nice smell," "between stink and coffee." "These are letters." "I have a friend called Juanjo Sáez and I write to him now and again in this book." "It's nicer to receive letters with drawings than e-mails," "so I write to my friend Juanjo like this." "And this book is also a sketchbook that I had in Montreal, I bought it there." "It's where I started to do the drawings for Calamaro." "Ah, the album cover." "Yes, these were all sketches that I sent to Calamaro to get him into it." "He was into some, I drew it here." "These are travel books." "When I go on a trip" "I draw cartoons of the things that happen to me." "This is a trip to the Antarctic, to Peru." "This is in Canada." "Do you remember I told you we went to Newfoundland?" "This is a letter I wrote to Angie, when I was away." "A little letter." "It's a natural way to express myself, with drawings." "Also I can't throw away all my ideas." "Because I have to have an idea every day," "I can't waste stuff." "So any stupid idea that comes to me, in fact" "I haven't seen this book so I'm going to go through it because there must be things that I can use now." "The nice thing about these sketches is you don't have to think, you don't have to be funny, they can miss the point, fail." "And often they're much better than the final version." "I should go on..." "So those are some of the books" "I have lying around at home." "This is where I get my revenge." "REC, indeed." "OK, now be something funny and interesting, Franca!" "You can take it out on me now." "Yeah!" "je, je, je." "Let's see..." "This is my first time as cameraman, so bear with me." "I'm going to try not to..." "Interesting." "How long have you been making documentaries?" "I'm a bit shy." "What were you trying to say with this documentary?" "It's up to the viewer." "OK, the next thing we're going to do in silence." "Because I can't do two things at once!" "Ah, you see?" ""Draw, do whatever, write"." "Oh, God." "My dad used to say that if there was a man in the house, the man should open the bottle." "Can you?" "The best bit is the noise, "glug-glug-glug"." "I can do some great close-ups for you, and I'm sorry but this is my revenge." "OK, let's do a "toaster"." "OK, Ricardo..." "To finishing this film once and for all." "To us, to continuing... with a decent life, not the documentary." "No documentaries, life as it is, real life." "Thank you" "I got back to Montreal in early spring to start researching for a new film." "It's almost the same time of year as when I met Liniers." "Out of pure curiosity, or nostalgia," "I go back to the house where we met." "Today at the bookshop at Plateau Mont-Royal," "I found the first "Macanudo" in French." "And I remember the dinner where we toasted for this book to be published." "In this constant change of seasons, both of us in our way have reached the end of a cycle." "Maybe the finishing of this film may allow us to meet each other in some other way." "Or maybe we won't meet again." "There is always that risk." "They are, as Liniers says, those things that happen if you're alive." "IT'S THE END OF THE FILM," "WHAT IF THEY PUT SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE CREDITS?" "SOMETIMES THEY PUT SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE CREDITS." "I HAVE THE MONEY, THE PLANE TICKET THE PASSPORT, EVERYTHING" "I'M GOING TO CANADA!" "DRAWING THE COVERS OF 5,000 MACANUDOS" "ON THE RADIO." "LATER, WHEN LISANDRO ARISTIMUÑO AND ANTONIO BIRABENT WERE SINGING" "I DREW..." "AND PAINTED WITH RED WINE BECAUSE" "I DIDN'T HAVE MY WATERCOLOURS." "1 7 CARTOONISTS." "ON THE CORNER OF AMENÁBAR AND CONCEPCIÓN ARENAL." "PAINTING THE WALL." "SOME ON STEP LADDERS AND SCAFFOLDING." "OTHERS KNEELING ON THE GROUND." "SOMETIMES IT RAINED." "THE REALAD VENTURES OF LINIERS." "I'M GOING TO MAKE A TIME MACHINE." "THE SMELL OF TOAST" "ALWAYS REMINDS ME OF WHEN I WAS YOUNG." "AT A KEVIN JOHANSEN + THE NADA GIG," "WHERE MY DRAWINGS ARE PROJECTED AS THE BAND PLAYS." "LINIERS CAN COME AND PLAY, I'LL GO AND DRAW." "I ONLY KNOW "KNOCKING ON HEAVEN'S DOOR" BY D YLAN." "SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD, A SHIVER GOES DOWN" "BOB DYLAN'S SPINE." "UUH..." "NO, THEY DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING."