"'In New York City's war on crime, 'the worst criminal offenders are pursued 'by the detectives of the Major Case Squad." "'These are their stories.'" "Yes?" "Tonight?" "Call me when it's done." "Thanks." "What's going on with this reporter?" "He prints that garbage, you know we're screwed." "Screw him, six ways to Sunday!" "He isn't printing anything." "Check this." " 'You self-satisfied jerkwad.'" " Jerkwad?" "'Your paper's a lying piece of crap." "'You think you can destroy people's lives?" "You're wrong." "'You hurt us, we'll hurt you back.'" "You'd think he could do better than "We'll hurt you back"." " How are you coming along?" " He got a threat!" "Is there something you're not telling me?" "Might be." "All right, take the weekend but I expect the Pulitzer!" "I don't know if I can." "OK, OK." "I'll be there." "Wh-Wh-Where am I taking this guy, anyway?" "No!" "It's cool, I was just asking." "Yeah." "Yeah, OK." "Phil!" "You coming to watch the game?" "Er, no." "I got something else I gotta do." " Looking for a rider?" " Yeah." "I got a call." "Er, I mean..." "they didn't give me a name." "Get going." "Eyes on the road." "Oh, come on." "It's a couple of days." "And then we can sneak off to Hilton." "Oh, come on!" "My mom and dad both like you a lot!" "The only people in America still impressed by reporters." "No, they like you in spite of the fact you're a reporter." "Thank you." "Are we picking somebody up?" "Making a delivery or something?" "Yeah, something like that." "You just keep the motor running." "Mom's always saying it ain't never..." "Get out of the way!" "Oh, my God!" "Oh, my God!" "I just came out for a smoke." "I wasn't really paying attention." "The next thing I know, some black guy is shooting!" " Did you get a look at him?" " Mostly I was looking at that gun." "After he shot them he started waving it around!" "I've never been so scared." "Did you see him take off?" "Yeah." "There was a car over there across the street." "He ran for it then they gunned outta here." " Gunned?" "It had a lot of power?" " Yeah, a big red car." " Kind of vintage." " Like?" " A Starsky and Hutch car?" " Yeah!" "Like that!" " Detective." " OK." "I've got your number." "I'll bring you in tomorrow to look at some pictures." "Talk about bad habits." "Fried and his fiancée ate here every Thursday." "He even proposed to her here." "You check how they fell?" "He shoved her behind to protect her." " Only the shooter used a cannon." " Right through him." "Twice." "Shooter liked his firepower." " Pissed his letter wasn't published." " This guy's a reporter?" "Derek Fried, the Ledger." "He did that big exposé on corruption in the 1-5." "Where those cops lost their badges?" "Jeez." "Too bad she had to get shot too." "Voice mail's been erased." "But it was a threat?" ""The Ledger's a lying piece of crap." "We're gonna hurt you."" " Did he say what he was mad about?" " Not specific, no." "Thank you, Bill." "I'm Jason Richards, editor of the Metro desk." "Till we get the ground rules straight, Mr Fried's files are off-limits." "Could you step in here for a moment?" "Course the Major Case Squad's capable." "Nobody's trying to stop them doing their job." "Barring us from investigating the guy's records is the same thing." "The Ledger has a right to be cautious, especially with this guy's history with the NYPD." "That material can be excluded from the investigation." "You're presuming a cop had nothing to do with this?" "I presume you're acting out of a concern for the first amendment, not grandstanding to boost your circulation." " How about the Impala?" " The lines were different." "Rounder." " How about this one?" " The body's right." "Paint job was new." "And the tyres." "The grille and bumper were missing." "Great." "Thanks." "Eames, I gotta see a buddy about a '71 Malibu." "You wanna come?" "Sure." "I love meeting your buddies." "That wrench has gotta be here!" "I had it when I dropped the tranny on the Mustang." " I can't get used to you in a suit!" " It's a '71 Malibu, Lewis." "A getaway in a shooting." "The owner's restoring it." "The owner of the Malibu still hasn't nailed down the grille or the bumper." "Bring back any memories, Bobby?" "Hey, about that Malibu." "I got a call from Reggie in Yonkers." "He's got a friend looking to score a grille from that year." " I can get the guy's name." " Great." "351 four-barrel." "Who you trying to outrun?" "Whoa!" "I think I'm in love." "Give it up, garbage boy!" " What did I do?" " Got yourself arrested, Phil." "I got it." "Full count." "Five grand." "Hey, is that Davey?" "Tell him I got something for him!" "Yeah, a puzzle." "OK." "Yeah." " OK, next stop Crown Heights." " Right." "I am completely innocent in this thing." "We've got your car as the getaway in a double homicide." "That's a long way from innocence." "I admit to nothing." "I'm really impressed with that car, Phil." " It's a work of art." " It's not finished." "It's getting there!" "4-11SS, turbo jet VA." "I've seen them go for $30,000." "I have to ask myself, "Why would Phil" ""put a vehicle like that any place near where shots will be thrown?"" "l-l wouldn't!" "Right." "The answer has to be that you didn't know." "Had you known a hit like that was going down, you would have used a different car." "Right." "Right!" "I didn't know!" "How'd you put yourself in that position?" "Driving to a hit you didn't know about!" "Was it this gambling thing?" "You got yourself jammed up?" "I don't have any choice in it when they ask me to do these things." " Who asks you?" "Your bookie?" " No, he's gone." "Long gone." "He sold the debts and now they just call me." " Who?" " I don't know who!" "And you can't say no to these people!" "You..." "I'm gonna go to jail for a real long time now, aren't I?" "You can help yourself by helping us." "The guy you drove, the shooter... ..could you pick him out of a mug book?" "Get the goldfish." "Good!" "It's about time, baby." "I never thought a bed was gonna open up." "Wait, shhh!" "Get down, ma'am!" "Get down!" "Put it down, Greg." "It's all right, kid." "Your dad's gonna be fine." "Isn't that right, Greg?" "It's gonna be all right, son." "Daddy's OK." "Keep that positive attitude, Greg." "You'll need it where you're going." "I'm OK, son!" "That cannon of yours matches the slugs they dug out of the reporter." "Long and short of it, Gregory, you're dead meat." "I don't want my son going to social services." "Call my mother, she'll pick him up." "Her name's Sandra Genereet, she works in the 12th Assembly Office." " You're not listening." " No, you're not." "I don't want my son in a foster home cos I know what goes on down there." "Now go call my mother." "Sandra, right?" "You don't want your boy going down the road you're on." "I understand." "This is you four years ago." "You were a transit cop." "What happened to this guy?" "Crack pipe we found in your crib, is that what happened?" "You know that driver, he's all jammed up on a gambling thing." "That's how they got to him." "How did these people get to you?" "Your drugs?" "Your kid?" " I should've shot you." " I've heard that." "Have you heard this one?" "That a man's family serves his time with him?" "It's up to you what kind of life you want for your boy." "Right now what I want is a lawyer." "Well?" "I can't get hold of my guy." " What do you mean?" " I think he's been pinched." " How much does he know?" " He only knows me." "I told him he'd be taken care of if anything went wrong." "I hope you back that up." "It's a damn disaster." "This can't work its way up the ladder." " You understand that?" " It won't, Larry." " Long as people get taken care of." " Damn it!" "He's running on the assumption the boy's safer if he keeps quiet." "Good assumption." "What about the girlfriend?" "She'd be great if she knew anything." "We checked his record." "Strictly transit." "No connection to the 1-5." "The Ledger sent over drafts of articles Fried was working on." "Road rage, high school gambling, shakedowns in the garbage industry." "Phil the driver." "He hauls garbage for a living." "Fried's article mentions one company." "Mob's been out of the business five years." "People believe we're crooks." " The allegations in Fried's article?" " A bunch of lying crap." ""Lying crap." That's exactly what the guy said on Fried's voice mail." "Must be garbage industry jargon." " I never threatened anybody." " Here's some police jargon for you." "Voiceprint." "We can match that threatening message to your voice like a fingerprint." "OK, if I said something like that, it wasn't a real sort of thing." " What sort of thing was it?" " It was for show." "Fried was asking around about the shakedowns." "People were upset." "I had to show I was upset too." "You were his source?" "It was gonna come out anyway." "This way maybe I buy some goodwill when he finally prints something." " Who put out the hit?" " I don't know." "That's the God's truth." "Four of us got together to work out how the shakedowns were gonna happen." "I gave Fried their names." "I don't work for the Garbage Haulers' Union." "I consult." "What does that mean, consult?" "I advise on different situations." "You know what consult means." "Any idea why your name was connected with an article on the garbage company situation?" "I'm not sure what you mean by situation." " You don't know what situation means?" " The shakedown." "On the level?" "I thought it was something the union should not participate in, but also not interfere with." "That's the advice I gave them." "That's why Mr Fried's exposé didn't concern me." "I gotta go to a meeting." "Nice tiepin." "Is that an emblem for the Fulton Mall?" "Yeah." "12." "What is that?" "Lucky number?" "Right." "A lucky number." "Nice talking to you." " 12th Assembly District Office." " The one Greg's mom works in." "I know my son has caused a lot of pain to people." " We're not here because of Greg." " Grandma's got oranges for you." "Here." "We're here because of a man named Joe Nawrocki." "You know him?" "Mr Nawrocki was doing fundraising for district elections when I started here 20 years ago." "When Greg was a teenager." "We pulled Greg's application for the police." "Mr Nawrocki was listed as a reference." "Mr Nawrocki helps a lot of people." "Especially your son." "Davey, look." "That's your daddy when he was in uniform at the police academy." "Who's he with here?" "It's Nawrocki." "He's shaking hands with the governor." "What's that, about 1994?" "Governor came through on a campaign swing?" "They took rookies right out of the academy to do security detail." "No." "They didn't send just any rookie." "Those security details were hand-picked by local party bosses." "A very big deal for a young officer." "Mr Nawrocki was a very close friend of yours...wasn't he?" "Yes." "At one time, yes." "When's the last time he called?" "Couple of weeks ago." "He wanted to know how Gregory was doing, if he was still on drugs." "You thought he wanted to help him." "Like before." "Didn't you?" "I told him where he was." "Oh, God!" "What has he talked my boy into?" "My client has nothing to say." "Who's paying the bills for this bozo?" "Nawrocki?" "He's my lawyer." "That's all you need to know." "If he's telling you not to make a statement, he's Nawrocki's lawyer." "Unless you got a death wish, a statement's your only way to go." " All right, we're done here." " We talked to your mother." "She lent us the photo." "She keeps it on her desk." "The proud moment in her son's life." "Yeah?" "Well, the moment's gone." "Your mother still has faith in you." "It's why she gave Nawrocki your number." "She thought he was trying to help." "Instead he got you into this mess." "And now you're trying to keep it from swallowing up your family." "Talk, don't talk." "It doesn't matter." "These people, whoever they are, will eventually get to you, your mother, or anyone else who can tie them to these murders." "My mom and son." "What you offering them?" "State Witness Protection Programme?" "Might as well buy them a plot at Woodlawn." "You got that right." "But I know people." "People in the Fed." "People that owe me favours." "I can get someone in so deep, even I couldn't find them." "Someplace good?" "They need a life and they need to be safe." "Both." " You're not buying this?" " I can do that." "Give me your word?" " He should get immunity." " Not for two murders." " They're giving you nothing." " Man, just..." "Nawrocki promised me ten grand." "And a bed in a rehab." "He made the last of the payments the day before I got arrested." "Did he say why he wanted the reporter dead?" "Nah." "Just said I'd be doing a public service." "A public service for who?" "The governor." "Public service?" "This crackhead's got a hell of an imagination." "He didn't imagine the calls he and his mother got from your client." "We have the phone records right here." "See?" "Mr Nawrocki has a soft spot for the family." "He doesn't deny it." "So the ten grand, the rehab bed?" "That was just his big heart reaching out to a fallen local hero?" "He doesn't know about the money." "It came in the same package as this kid's puzzle." "You see these smudges here?" "That's where they found your fingerprints." "It was real thoughtful of you, giving the kid a gift to keep his mind off his dad sitting on death row because of you." "It had nothing to do with garbage, did it?" "It's bigger and Fried got too close." "He didn't even know what he had." "But I guess with his record for sniffing out corruption, you and whoever pulls your strings didn't wanna take any chances that'd come back and bite this big boy!" "Tell the wizards behind the glass this'll never survive a motion to dismiss." "Boo!" "Made you look!" "This is big." "Very big." "According to a drug addict." "You don't think he was involved?" "I do." "I just don't think it goes beyond him." "What?" "Did you vote for the governor?" "I take it you didn't." "But then again, that wouldn't influence your judgment, would it?" "I didn't vote for him." "But I like my job." "I'm not ready to lob charges." "I like my job too, but this will go where it will go." "It's not going anywhere without corroborating evidence against Mr Nawrocki." "Until then, I'm not going near a grand jury." "He's got a dozen accounts in here with banks all over the city." " Mr Nawrocki uses a car service?" " Yes." "Do you have the invoices?" "We're interested in his rides on the 24th." "This is for last month." "Here, let me highlight it for you." "It's OK." "The search warrant doesn't actually stipulate highlighting." " I got a car trip to Crown Heights." " Our old friend Gregory." "There's a stop along the way at 402 West 57th." "A bank?" "Not a bank listed in here." " You know this address?" " West 57th." "That's Mr Wiegert." "Wiegert." "Wiegert." "You're thinking of Louise Wiegert." " Who's Louise Wiegert?" " Maiden name of the governor's wife." "Larry Wiegert's the governor's brother-in-law." "'Larry, I hope there's no problem.'" "After everything we've accomplished it'd be a shame to rush at the end." "'I've waited four years." "It's hardly a rush." "Pick up the phone, Larry.'" "Yeah?" " Tell me this isn't about that reporter?" " 'It is and it isn't.'" "I can assure you that they have absolutely nothing that's gonna connect us to anything, but..." "Larry, you know the regard I have for you." "Your work has been stunning." "But this is getting frustrating." "I don't like being frustrated." "It's a precaution." "I wouldn't even be bringing it up otherwise." "I know you'll come through." "Put Stephanie on, please." "He wants to talk to you." "Hi, sweetheart." " 'Hi." "I can't wait to see you.'" " I can't either." "It would make me crazy if you came back now and something went wrong." " It'll work out." "How are the boys?" " 'They're fine." "They miss you.'" "Tommy especially." "Says your name every day." "He cries." "I don't know what to tell him." "I gotta go now, Stephanie." "Tell them I love them." "I will." "Bye." "I just spoke to the phone company." "They tell me you pulled the records for the governor's brother-in-law." "He and Nawrocki traded phone calls." "Great." "But something like this, clear with me first." "Wiegert and Nawrocki had a bunch of calls last November and December." "Then nothing until four weeks ago." "The time Fried started nosing around the garbage shakedowns." "Last December Wiegert and Nawrocki both called the Development Office of Pelham University." "Development is the Ivy League word for "hitting people up for money"." "Mr Wiegert and Nawrocki coordinated a contribution from a major donor last December." "I hope there isn't a problem." "Shouldn't be." "What was the contribution for?" "A school government." "A new building, library." "A huge project." " Who gets their name above the door?" " The governor, actually." "There is something wrong, isn't there?" " How much was the donation?" " $750,000." " And who was the donor?" " It's anonymous." "Mr Nawrocki brought me a cheque which I deposited." "I was not to record where it came from." "The donor doesn't wanna end up on a charity hit list." "That's usually the reason." "But three-quarters of a million?" "Isn't that someone you'd want to say hello to every now and then?" "I try to honour requests for privacy." "You don't keep a little list of anonymous donors, you know, the ones with deep pockets, just for...a rainy day?" "When I give money I don't like to call attention to it." "Then everybody comes to you with their hands out." "How did you hear about the school of government, Miss Thomas?" "Mr Wiegert is a family friend." "He told me about it." "I've always liked the governor so it was something I wanted to do." "How do you know Mr Nawrocki?" "Nawrocki?" "I don't know anyone by that name." "Look, is there a problem with the contribution?" "Not as long as you've filled out the relevant tax forms." " You have kids?" " Three boys." "They're a handful." "Tommy U. What's the U stand for?" "Oh, that's my husband's name." "I'm separated." "Ufland." "You use your maiden name." "Where's your husband now?" "Travelling." "I really don't keep track." "This one's by Ricky Junior." "It-lt's a cute name." "Thank you for your help, Miss Thomas." "If we think of anything else we'll call you." "We can find our way out." "Ufland, Richard." "Tax consultant." "Great." "Another consultant." "1996, indicted for money laundering." "He was cleaning money for drug gangs in Spanish Harlem." "Go on." "Pleaded not guilty at arraignment." "Bail of two million." "Failure to appear, declared a fugitive in 1997. "Travelling"!" "Scroll down." "Pardoned by the governor." "Pardoned." "When?" "January of this year." "He was pardoned six months ago." "How come it never made the papers?" "There's no obligation to announce it till the end of the year." "When everyone's too busy partying." "By then this $750,000 bribe's ancient history." "Let me just play devil's advocate for a fraction of a second." "Is it possible the governor didn't know?" "Ufland was a money manager for two drug gangs responsible for 37 deaths." "We have financial documents and sworn affidavits detailing the depth and breadth of Ufland's criminality." "If you're suggesting he was pardoned on the merits, the answer is no." "With such evidence, why couldn't you get him extradited?" "Certain countries don't think laundering is worth prosecuting." "Did his wife know what he was doing?" "Not as far as we could tell." "And we looked closely." "Question is, what does she know now?" "If she's ready to talk, tell her I have no interest in jailing her." "That contribution had nothing to do with my husband." " Where did the money come from?" " From me." "She's answered enough questions." "Why not spend the money on your kids?" "We set up a trust fund for them." "They're fine." "That's good." "I assume his accounts were frozen once he was arrested." " Yes." " After he fled the country." "How did you manage?" "You had a co-op on 5th Avenue." "I sold it." "Even so, it must have been tough on your kids." "Losing their home, deserted by their father." " He has not deserted..." " He's not living in a walk-up." "He is a good father!" "I know people despise him but I can't help that." "I'm doing what I have to do to keep my family together." "I respect that." "I'm just telling you, plain as I know how, this investigation's gonna take its course." "You're the only one caring for those kids." "If you go to jail, what happens to them?" "Wait!" "I..." "I can't go to jail!" "OK, erm... what kind of consideration are we talking about here?" "The DA said they're not eager to send her to jail." "So, immunity?" "Probation?" "Something like that." "If they like what they hear." "Larry Wiegert came up to me at a party." "He said he knew about my situation and maybe could help." "A few weeks later he called me and said he'd spoken to the governor's chief of staff." "Roy Fitzgerald?" "The story was, if I gave a contribution to the school, for the governor, that would just...be a good thing to do." "Larry said he needed two cheques." "One for 750,000 and the other for 250 for his commission." "I had no choice." " Was the money from your husband?" " No." "We never told Richard until the pardon came through." "And then he was supposed to fly back this month, but something went wrong." "Larry and Richard have been talking about it." "I don't know what it is, but it sounds bad." "A reporter started investigating Mr Wiegert's bagman, Joe Nawrocki." "The reporter and his fiancée were gunned down two weeks ago." "Oh, well, you don't think..." "Oh, God." "This is the last time I'm gonna be able to talk to you, Larry." "I can't take your calls any more." "I did this all by myself." "Is that the position?" "The governor's office had no knowledge of illegal activity." " I need to talk to my sister." " She doesn't wanna talk to you." " And I must talk to the governor." " They are not available to you." "Not available." "That's perfect." "I'll be making a statement to the DA." "I bet you will." "About how I was acting on my own and this pardon happened on its own?" "I advised the governor the petition had merit." "He acted on my advice." "That's what happened." "Goodbye, Larry." "What about me?" "What do I do?" "What am I supposed to do now?" "Mr Wiegert called from his car 15 minutes ago." "He said he was on his way back." " Wiegert golfing with the governor?" " Where'd they get those pants?" " This picture old?" " About seven years." " Do they still golf together?" " No." "Governor's too busy?" "They didn't even show up for Mr Wiegert's wedding!" "There's busy and there's busy." "Mr Wiegert!" " These detectives are here for you." " Of course they are." "You're under arrest, Mr Wiegert." "Cynthia, call Jacqueline Roscoe and tell her to meet us at..." "Major Case Squad, One Police Plaza, 11th floor." "Just put it over there." "Sorry to keep you waiting." "We were watching the news." "Your sister had to make a press statement." " Let's get down to business." " He declines to make a statement." "He's not counting on his sister calling the attorney general, is he?" "This is your sister's press conference this afternoon." "'The governor and I had no knowledge of his activities." "'I love my brother, and I hope these allegations aren't true." "'But right now I'm very disappointed in Larry.'" "You broker a payoff to the school of government, this monument to her husband's legacy, and she's disappointed?" "I repeat, he's not making a statement here." "Tomorrow they'll still be living in the governor's mansion, maybe planning a run for something bigger." "Richard Ufland's pardon is irrevocable." "But you?" "You, Larry?" "You're the punch line." "Just like..." "Billy Carter, Donald Nixon, Roger Clinton, you're an embarrassment." "'Right now I'm very disappointed in Larry.'" "Look at her." "She has no shame at all!" "Your little sister, who couldn't even be bothered to go to your wedding..." " They were busy." " Doing what?" "Dedicating an overpass?" "Why do you make excuses for them?" "'I'm very disappointed in Larry.'" "You're good enough to hustle bribes but not to play golf with the big guy?" "That wasn't her." "He decided." "What he decided I don't know, but..." " She could have stood up to him." " Louise has to go along." "'Right now I'm very disappointed in Larry.'" "All right!" "That's not going along, Larry." "That's sticking it to you!" "I bet they weren't disappointed when you brought Ufland's cheque." "No." "No, no, no, no, they weren't." "No!" "Why should I protect them?" "Why?" "All right." "Yeah." "I went to the big guy and told him what Stephanie wanted." "He sent me to his chief of staff, to Roy Fitzgerald." "The governor understood there was a quid pro quo." "Money for the pardon." " Couldn't have happened otherwise." " And Mr Fried's murder?" "No, that they did not know." "Not at all." "That was Ufland." "I told Ufland that Fried was investigating Nawrocki." "Ufland wasn't one to be pardoned for laundering, only to be arrested for bribery, so... he told me that I had to take care of the reporter." "Ufland was thousands of miles away." "Why didn't you say no?" "He has a lot of friends in the drug gangs." "A lot of friends." "He said if I refused one of them would do it anyway." "Then he would come after me too." "No one in the governor's office was aware of Mr Wiegert's activity." "The pardon was my call." "I felt Mrs Ufland's petition had humanitarian grounds and recommended it to the governor - no quid pro quo." "Ufland was ours." "If you had nothing to hide, why weren't we consulted?" "The governor's power to grant pardons is absolute." "There's no statutory obligation for him to consult anyone." "But he felt obligated to consult his brother-in-law." "Larry Wiegert is a con man." "He conned Stephanie Ufland into believing he could arrange a pardon in order to extort a $250,000 commission from her." "The governor knew nothing." "He has no access to the governor." "He has access to you, Mr Fitzgerald." "We have the phone records to prove it." "Out of respect for the governor's wife I treat him with civility, which is more than he deserves." "The buck stops with Larry Wiegert." "Period." "Mr Carver." "Detectives." "There it is in a nutshell." "Larry Wiegert's word against the governor, his wife, the chief of staff, the whole damn political machine." "There they go, down the rabbit hole." "We can still get Richard Ufland for murder." "If we can find him." "His wife can show us where." "Now, why would she do that?" "Because you're going to arrest her." "If she doesn't cooperate, she doesn't get out of jail." "That's not the deal we made with her." " I didn't authorise any deal." " You damn well did." "We told her what you told us." "You had no interest in imprisoning her." "I didn't." "But if I have to I will." "Now I have to." " I'm not arresting her." " Count me out too." "Detectives." "We're supposed to be better than those we prosecute." "Even the governor kept his end of the bargain." "If you don't arrest her... ..I will find somebody who will." "Well, then, let us talk to her." "Oh!" "We'll talk to her." "I told you everything I know." "You promised this wouldn't happen!" "We know." "We're doing what we can to keep that promise." "Right now there's a fax machine spitting out your arrest warrant." "We can't stop the DA putting you in jail!" "This is the most outrageous thing I've ever heard." "She made your case." "She had a deal." "She'll have a deal when we have your husband." "I am not gonna help you put the father of my children in jail." "There are two people dead because of that man!" " I can't care about that!" " You need to care!" "You're protecting a double murderer!" "If you're gonna do that you belong in jail." "This isn't fair." "You need to decide, Mrs Ufland, what kind of person you are." "What you're teaching your kids by letting this husband of yours go free." "Oh, God." "He's going to be in Mexico City the day after tomorrow." "I arranged for my parents to bring my eldest son to meet him there." "Bastards!" "You're all bastards!" "Welcome home, Mr Ufland." "They should teach this case at the governor's school of government." "Law school ethics class." "That's where they should teach it, Counsellor."