"Earlier this year, I created a television series called "aftermath"" "One of these episodes focused on 3 courageous survivors of the dc snipers" "John muhammad and lee malvo." "I spoke with lee malvo in an exclusive interview from prison." "We uncovered startling new information" "That will change the way you think about this case forever." "Malvo has revealed that he and muhammad did not work alone" "That they had co-conspirators." "Lee malvo:" "There were supposed to be 3 to 4 snipers" "With silenced weapons." "Malvo also claims" "That in addition to the 13 known shootings" "Around the dc area," "He and his partner john mohammad committed" "As many as 42 other shootings." "We will hear lee malvo in his own words" "From revealing taped confessions" "Which have never before been broadcast." "He didn't die immediately." "He got back up and started walking," "And I had to go out there and get him." "To his extraordinary trial testimony," "Given years after his capture." "Katherine winfree:" "Did he tell you he loved you?" "Yes." "Did you believe that?" "Yes." "These findings are truly remarkable." "We're going to share them with you" "On "confessions of the dc sniper."" "Man on telephone:" "Red onion state prison." "I have a prepaid call from..." "Lee malvo." "Yes." "We'll accept it." "Your call is being connected." "Hello?" "Lee malvo?" "Yes, mr." "Shatner." "Lee?" "How are you doing in there?" "I'm doing ok." "I'm doing ok." "I have seen and have been on the end" "Of either watching someone die or killing someone" "In so many different circumstances" "Mowing their lawn," "On a highway," "Out with their family." "And, at any time, you can die." "William shatner:" "It's a story described as a perfect storm" "How lee malvo, a runaway jamaican boy," "Became a serial killer at 17." "It's the tale of the man malvo called father, 41-year old john muhammad," "A gulf war veteran who came to hate the United States," "A government he saw as racist and oppressive." "We got a 1990 blue chevy caprice." "We tinted the windows." "We got an hack saw," "Went in the back seat," "Cut the seat." "In the center of the trunk," "Just above the license plate," "There would be a hole for the rifle." "Basically, we'd be inside the car, in the trunk," "Shooting out." "Shortly after 3:30 this morning," "The tactical response team arrested 2 individuals." "Male newscaster:" "In this morning's arrest, 3 tension-filled weeks of tracking the deadly serial sniper..." "They were described as african-american males," "One approxately 20, one approximately 40." "He's currently in our custody." "Second man:" "The results of forensic testing are that" "The weapons seized from the vehicle" "Occupied by muhammad" "Has been forensically determined to be the murder weapon." "We do intend to seek the death penalty." "Mr. Muhammad explained to me what was going to happen." "He said we're going to guillotine the washington dc area," "And we're going to terrorize these people." "For a month, every day, there are going to be 6 shots." "6 slayings a day." "Please, we have a lady that's been shot." "Second woman:" "We need an ambulance" "At the corner of knowles and connecticut." "He wanted people in terror." "He wanted people talking about this." "He wanted people worried." "He wanted to disturb the entire area." "911, state your emergency." "Come, ma'am." "I'm dying." "I'm going to help you, ok?" "Do you know who shot you?" "No!" "Forensic psychiatrist dr." "Neil blumberg" "Interviewed lee malvo for about 50 hours after his capture," "And now, with malvo's permission," "Speaks on the record for the very first time." "Once the killing begins," "The plan was to wreak enough havoc" "To ultimately bring the government to its knees," "Get the government to pay a ransom of $10 million," "And start a utopian society" "And live happily forever after." "Muhammad taught him everything that he knew," "All with txe hopes of turning him into" "An ultimate killing machine." "Autumn 2002, about one year after 9/11," "The snipers set upon the suburbs of washington, dc." "In the crisp morning air of October 3rd," "Taxi driver premkumar walekar gassed his car," "Unaware he was in the crosshairs of a sniper's rifle." "Except for a few scattered cars, it was basically vacant." "Once we parked," "We dropped the seat, crawled in the trunk." "The weapon was completely assembled." "Could you describe mr." "Muhammad's target?" "He's an indian, a bit stout." "What was the man doing?" "The man was pumping gas." "Had a taxicab, which was parked right there." "Physician caroline namrow," "Her 2-year old son in the back seat," "Pulled into the station next to walekar." "Dr. Caroline namrow:" "I saw the gentleman" "Filling his car with gas." "I smiled and nodded at him." "And he sort of nodded back." "I could see from- using the side window." "And I told him he had a go." "And as I looked down to get my purse," "I heard a very loud bang." "He stepped towards my car" "And he looked through the window" "And he said, "call an ambulance, " and he fell down." "So I immediately went around the front of my car to him," "And I saw that he was lying on his back" "Next to my minivan," "And there was blood all down the side of the minivan." "After he fell, I saw someone rush towards him." "I could tell it was a female." "I tried to calm myself down," "And I thought to myself," "Ok, you're a doctor." "This is a good time to do cpr," "Because I was so shaken." "I had never seen anybody be shot before." "I tried to feel for a pulse." "I thought that he's not going to make it," "As soon as I realized his pulse was extremely weak" "And I saw the amount of blood," "And he--he stopped breathing." "Walekar asked if he'd be all right." "Dr. Namrow assured him he would," "Although it appeared he had little chance of survival." "As he was rushed to the hospital, walekar died," "Leaving behind his wife and two children." "That day was his 25th wedding anniversary." "What a incredible waste this had been," "This senselessct, killing this man." "There was no goal." "It was so horrible," "So random." "Shortly after 9:00, a single shot rang out." "We just have no information that makes any sense." "911, what's your emergency?" "He's bleeding like a..." "He's bleeding bad." "Somebody got shot." "Second man:" "It sounded like a big bang." "911 emergency." "Second woman:" "Blood is coming out of her noise and her mouth." "News reporter:" "Violence strikes the area again." "The authorities were confused." "There was no common thread among the victims." "Adults of all ages, all races," "And not a single witness to the killings." "By October 7, 2002," "The toll reached 6 dead, 2 wounded." "Then, muhammad raised the stakes." "What he said was that..." "The worst thing you can do to people" "Is a at their children." "No one was standing out front." "Parents, they took their child and ran" "And went into the building." "I was apprehensive." "Lee had misgivings about killing a child." "A young man came out," "Threw his bag down," "I took a shot." "Lee aimed for the abdomen," "Which was going to be less likely to kill the victim," "As opposed to a head shot." "The shooting happened between 8 and 8:30" "This morning." "The young victim was medivaced to a hospital" "Where he was immediately taken into surgery." "The children were locked in the school," "And all morning long, anxious parents came here" "Rushing to pick up their children." "13-year old iran brown survived," "As the panic intensified." "We only wish we could have stopped this." "However, muhammad still felt there was not enough death." "Mr. Muhammad was becoming agitated" "Because we were not getting 6 shots a day." "I wouldn't talk." "He kept asking me what's wrong and I just wouldn't talk." "I was shaking and crying." "He said, look, this is..." "Bull..." "People get caught when they start doubting." "He says, what do you want?" "Do you want to split the money?" "He said, do you want weapons?" "I was shaking my head." "He says, what do you want?" "I said, uh, nothing." "He parked, told me to get out." "I was just broken down, broken down." "He came back, he says, get in." "He says, are you ready now to continue" "At he called the mission?" "I dried my tears." "I said, yes, sir." "The latest attack of the serial sniper." "The shooter has again evaded police." "We have not given in to the terror." "911:" "Your wife is shot?" "Yes!" "Where has she been shot?" "She's shot in her head!" "With the death count now at 9," "The snipers believed they created enough chaos and panic" "To demand $10 million from the government." "Malvo pinned a ransom note to a tree" "At the site of the next attack." "He dropped me off at the ponderosa." "I walked that area until I memorized my way out." "I went to the wooded area," "Waited until it got completely dark," "Then I saw a male and a female exit the restaurant," "And I shot him in the abdomen." "Broke the weapon down, put it in the bag," "Threw it over my shoulder, walked out," "Everything was perfect." "Perfect, except for the sudden appearance of a policeman." "There was one police officer." "He was walking slowly." "My bag fell off." "I picked it up quickly." "Malvo kept his composure and got into the car." "Mr. Muhammad looked at me and said, "you were calm."" "He says, "I created a mother..." "Monster."" "Muhammad calling lee a monster" "Is actually a supreme compliment." "He's turned lee into the killing machine that he wanted." "Lee became psychologically numb" "And totally emotionless." "They had now killed 10 in the dc area" "And demanded ransom from the United States government," "Crimes for which they would face the death penalty." "For 23 days in October, our communities lived in fear." "The killers stalked the national capital area." "We are moving forward aggressively." "We will follow facts wherever they lead." "Lee, would you comment on..." "Some of the other shootings" "That we don't know about?" "We know that there were more than 40." "Can you can you explain that a little to me?" "At the time of their capture," "John muhammad and lee malvo sparked a nationwide alert." "Seemingly similar unsolved murders from around the country" "Poured into the dc sniper task force." "We do not have any confirmation" "As to whether this shooting" "Was related to those other incidents." "We already know all these shootings are linked." "Does that make a pattern?" "We don't know." "By the time the snipers faced trial," "The task force had confirmed 22 shootings and suspected many others." "But malvo told me this was just the tip of the iceberg." "Lee, would you comment on..." "Some of the other shootings" "That we don't know about?" "We know there were more than 40." "Well, for example, there was 2 in arizona," "Florida, texas," "Washington state, alabama," "Georgia, mississippi." "They told me that there were approximately 42 shootings" "That he and muhammad engaged in," "But it actually appears" "To have been considerably more than that." "Prior to arriving in the dc area," "Lee and muhammad traveled all over the country," "Robbing people, shooting people, killing people." "On average, they were shooting people at least 3 to 6 times a month." "Malvo said they had collected about $150,000 from their crimes." "Crimes committed as muhammad, an army-trained sharpshooter," "Taught malvo the art of assassination." "Lee was not a natural born killer." "He had to be trained." "He had to be programmed." "He would give me books that I was suppose to read," "And then I'd have to explain a chapter to him." "He had books on explosives, military tactics, sniper tactics." "He would explain the principals of setting yourself up to shoot." "For example, um, how to create balance." "He taught me how to calculate for the wind," "Based on distances to ensure that there was no movement." "I absorbed everything he taught me." "I trusted him and I believed him." "On the morning of March 19th, jerry taylor," "A 60-year old salesman known for his humor and his easy-going style," "Went golfing on this golf course in tucson, arizona." "Lee malvo was laying in wait." "This was an exercise that muhammad devised" "For him to hone his shooting skills." "What you're about to hear is a tucson police recording of malvo's confession," "Broadcast for the first time." "This is the first time he's having me do this." "And we go out there, and he says, " you have to do this." I said no." "He said, "you're going out there and do this."" "And, I said, "all right, I'm going out there and doing it."" "I put golf balls on the slope." "His back is towards me 'cause I'm down on the ground in the bushes." "He went after the golf balls I set out." "The instruction was to shoot him..." "To kill." "That was the instruction." "I aimed for the heart." "He's hit in the chest." "And basically what happens is the bullet goes straight through." "He didn't die immediately." "He fell." "Then he got back up and started walking." "And I had to go out there and get him." "Malvo dragged taylor into the bushes" "And left him there to die." "A plan so perfectly executed," "By the time the law arrived, they had little to go on." "We received a call that some golfer had found the body of jerry taylor" "Jerry taylor is pronounced dead at the scene." "We had no leads as to who could possibly be involved." "I've been doing homicide for many years" "And never had a case like this." "Muhammad would just show up with an envelope and money." "Like for example in arizona," "Muhammad got a picture and an address," "And the job was to assassinate this person." "To kill him." "So that's like a-- that's like a contract-killing then?" "Some of them were." "We were not able to find any enemies that mr." "Taylor might've had." "I mean, he was just a simple man" "That--that worked- -worked hard for his family." "Muhammad was known for invention," "On occasion presenting himself as a cia agent" "Or special ops to further his own ends." "But if it was not a contract kill," "How did muhammad get taylor's photograph?" "The fact that malvo had photos of mr." "Taylor," "The fact they followed him to a grocery store," "Lead me to believe that they had done some type of footwork." "But those questions are still out there" "As to why they would want mr." "Taylor dead." "Malvo told police muhammad received payment for the hit" "When they returned to washington state." "He comes back with the bag." "It's a paper bag." "Money is there." "It was $25,000." "N:" "What was the denomination of the bills?" "Hundreds and fifties." "Had muhammad duped malvo by telling him it was a contract killing?" "And, in tucson, there was yet another crime." "Malvo spoke of another shooting," "A shooting we report for the first time." "5 days after the murder of jerry taylor," "The dc snipers staked out a bank deposit drop." "We believe that the shot that was taken at this victim" "Came from across the street." "So, you were going to shoot the person" "Who was going to make the drop?" "Yeah, make the drop." "Before they could make the drop?" "Before they could make the drop." "You'd shoot them then grab the money and go." "Go." "Was a shot fired?" "Yes." "Ok." "The bullet missed its target," "Shattering a car window, just missing the man's head." "This gentleman did not find out about it" "Until this past Saturday, June 19, 2010." "Until we investigated," "The victim had no idea it was the dc snipers who had taken the shot." "And there was another shooting we uncovered." "Malvo told blumberg that during the dc attacks" "They shot into a restaurant... in richmond, virginia..." "Missing their target." "Richmond police confirmedd this incident." "We went through a process of escalating crimes." "And the whole process was to get me ready" "To do what he needed me to do." "And he would send me to do a crime," "And then he would watch the crime," "And then he would evaluate me after it was finished," "And we'd work on the next crime what was wrong," "What I needed to change, emotionally, in my approach, in my tactics." "He was approaching it like this is how you make a better killing?" "Yeah." "And all of this was something that lee enjoyed doing," "Not so much for the acts itself," "But for this bonding experience" "That he was having with muhammad." "Did you come to love mr." "Muhammad?" "Yes." "Did you tell him you loved him." "Yes." "Did he tell you that he loved you?" "Yes." "At the time, authorities believed" "The sniper's acts of homegrown terror was a jihad of two." "However, lee malvo told me there were others." "He said the dc snipers did not work alone." "There was supposed to be 3 to 4 snipers with silenced weapons." "In this way, you could do a lot more damage" "Along the entire eastern seaboard." "17-year-old lee malvo, in america without family or friends," "And john muhammad, the man he called father," "Robbed, shot, and killed their way across the country." "But it appears they did not work alone." "There were, in fact, at least 3 other co-conspirators." "I was in shock when he told me." "To learn that there were" "Other individuals involved was amazing." "Forens psychiatrist dr." "Neil blumberg reveals for the first time" "The secrets held by malvo, which, if true," "Create a radical new perspective on their crimes." "The co-conspirator in new york lived in the projects," "And he primarily provided them with weapons." "One of them lived in florida." "And he was the man who did the paperwork," "Who was to provide credit cards," "False ids that they'd need" "In order to travel throughout the United States." "The arizona person was involved" "In both providing weapons as well as explosives." "They would spend 2 or 3 weeks together" "With each person training." "Lee was there anybody else involved?" "Were there any co-conspirators?" "Uh, no." "You told dr." "Blumberg that there were other people involved." "There were 2 others" "There were 2 other people who were supposed to be involved." "But in the end, they end up backing out." "I see." "And you-- they were supposed to be involved" "And then they backed out?" "See, what was supposed to happen" "Was that there was supposed to be 3 to 4 snipers" "With silence weans, silenced rifles." "And in this way you could do a lot more damage" "Along the entire eastern seaboard," "But in the end, it was only muhammad and myself." "But they had help." "According to malvo," "The pair purchased illegal weapons in phoenix." "The phoenix group was basically one of those white, racist groups." "As long as you've got money, they'll give you whatever they want." "We met out in the desert and tested weapons and stuff like that." "That's how we learned to make suppressors, silencers." "Got explosives." "It remains unclear whether this group knew the snipers' plans." "But malvo confirmed he trained" "With the new york conspirator, who was well-aware." "His job was to get us out of the country" "When it's all said and done." "What happened to the co-conspirators?" "They wanted nothing to do with it." "They had no problems doing crimes to make money," "But anything beyond that they didn't want to do." "Lee stated that 2 of the individuals got cold feet at that point." "Those 2 individuals backed out." "And what happened after that" "Is that muhammad instructed lee that," "Of course, they had to be eliminated." "And lee executed both of them." "Can you explain to me the difference between your statement now" "And the statement to dr." "Blumberg," "About they were killed and you're saying they went away?" "Yeah." "Black was one" "Black was the only one that was killed." "That was one guy." "Black was the only one that was killed." "And that's because he backed out" "And muhammad-- muhammad killed him." "So he was killed?" "Yes." "He was killed?" "Yes, sir." "I see." "Muhammad killed him?" "Yes, sir." "We were not able to ascertain the identity of any co-conspirator" "And acknowledge the inconsistencies in malvo's accounts." "The fbi declined an interview," "Saying the dc sniper case remains an ongoing investigation." "But killing an accomplice made it clear" "There was no way out but death." "In July 2002, the pair arrived in baton rouge to visit muhammad's family." "The first time I met lee," "He was introduced as my brother." "If your father tells you, ok, you have another brother," "You haven't seen your father in 11 years," "You just take it for what it is." "He'd get this kid up at 4:00 in the morning" "And run him for 2 and 3 miles." "He ran this kid and starved this kid," "Ran him and starved him, ran him and starved him." "Lee was eating crackers and honey," "That kid was starving." "We were eating, and you knew he was hungry." "But he wouldn't eat," "Not when john was around." "That's how serious it was." "That was a part of his breaking him down." "That was a part of him getting into his mind." "I feel sorry for the lee that I met" "Because I didn't know the killer." "I know the sweet innocent young man." "Lee was that kid that if he was homeless, you would adopt him." "And he ran into john at the wrong time." "John, he loves kids," "But after the, what, desert storm," "He came back, he was changed." "He was not that same john." "After 10 years in the army, john muhammad returned a troubled man" "Twice court martialed, twice failure in marriage," "Twice losing custody of his children." "Muhammad could no longer keep a grip on his life." "I could understand his pain." "He lost his business, his house, his cars." "But the only thing that mattered to him was his children." "Until now, malvo said he believed their goal" "Was to raise money to kidnap muhammad's children" "And start a new life together, away from the u.S." "We were in baton rouge, in a gulley." "We were sitting on a log." "And he explained to me what was going to happen after he left." "He said we're going to go to washington dc area," "And we're going to terrorize these people." "For a month, every day there are going to be 6 shots." "6 slayings a day." "6 a day for how long?" "30 days." "Muhammad revealed a plan he called phase 2" "Explode a school bus packed with children," "Kill one police officer," "Then use explosives to blow up the police force funeral." "What did you think of this plan, mr." "Malvo?" "I asked him why we were doing this." "Why not just get the children and leave?" "He said no, this is what were are going to do, and it's final." "What did you do after he told you" "About this plan to terrorize?" "He was gone during the day." "I played russian roulette for several hours, crying." "And I just broke down." "I couldn't do it." "We made a bond." "Once you give your word, there is no way out." "Malvo wrote a letter to muhammad's niece." "In it he said, "I have a father who would kill me" "For a righteous society to prevail."" "We didn't know what was going on in this letter," "But now looking back on it," "It's pretty much a cry for help." "Muhammad bolsters him up," "Lee puts this out of his md," "Sort of gets back into being the dutiful son." "When we were looking for him," "They were nowhere to be found." "The same way he appeared, he disappeared." "We don't know where he is," "We don't know where their next destination is." "45 miles from baton rouge in hammond, louisiana," "John gaeta stopped at sears to buy shoes." "Muhammad had told him that," "You're going to kill somebody today." "That's when he made the decision they would slash a tire." "When gaeta returned, malvo approached his target." "He said, looks like you have a flat tire." "And he went, ha ha ha." "Sort of like laughing under his breath." "But--and then they walked off." "And then..." "And then..." "I was shot in the neck." "I didn't feel severe pain," "But I said, well, just stay there," "Just, you know, play dead for 2 or 3 minutes." "While malvo stole his wallet," "Gaeta's mind was far away and strangely at peace." "You think of your wife and your family and your friends," "And, you know, and like this is how my life ends." "At the time of his capture," "Malvo gave this never-before-broadcast confession" "To virginia police." "Woma do you ever feel bad about any certain one?" "No." "No?" "If you had to do it over, you would do the same thing?" "Huh?" "Yep." "Concerned that muhammad would get the death penalty," "Malvo claimed that he had committed most of the kills." "Although he too faced execution," "Malvo refused to cooperate in his own defense." "His lawyers brought in carmeta albarus-lindo," "A social worker, expert in death penalty cases." "Lee was so far removed from reality" "That getting him to cooperate was something" "That they would not be able to do." "Here we had what we call a volunteer." "He's actually volunteering to die." "Concerned that muhammad would get the death penalty," "Malvo claimed that he had committed most of the kills." "He was ready to die for muhammad." "He distinctly said," ""they are trying to use me to kill my dad," "But it is not going to happen. "" "Facing trial, dc sniper lee malvo's wish to sacrifice his life" "To save john muhammad presented a daunting task for carmeta albarus-lindo." "Her job was to unlock the secrets of his life." "The goal is to see what it is about his history" "That would have caused him" "To have attached to john muhammad." "What is it about this dad" "That you didn't see in your biological parents?" "What I really wanted to get from him was his life story." "And that entailed going back to jamaica." "Speaking with malvo's father leslie malvo," "Albarus-lindo learnediled the youth only had a brief period of happiness" "Before his parents separated when he was 5." "After this, malvo's father deserted him," "And his mother repeatedly abandoned him for months at a time." "His mother would tell him she wished she never had him." "You know, she wished he had never been born." "He's going to be nobody." "From that time, he felt that his life" "Was not worth anything." "There was an emptiness there," "And he was always trying to fill that emptiness." "I hated myself." "You hated yourself." "What--can you give me an insight into that?" "The process really started around the age of 12 with mom." "She told me, "go ahead and kill yourself."" "At 15, malvo and his mother moved here to antigua." "Shortly thereafter, she took off again." "He was surviving on his own." "He needed to make money so that he could survive." "What he did was to steal cds," "Burn the cds, and sell them" "So he could buy lentil beans," "And that's what he ate." "Lee was someone who was just looking to be loved," "And that was the situation which he lived in" "Leading up to his meeting john muhammad." "Malvo noticed an american living in the neighborhood" "And was struck by how tenderly he treated his children." "That man was john muhammad." "He basically took me under his wing." "I opened up to him." "I told him about my relationship with my mother, my father." "He was a very good listener." "It was empathy, and he understood me." "He took the time to be there, which is very important to me." "He began introducing me as his son." "I went down to jamaica." "I met his biological father, leslie malvo." "He was filled with so much rage and so much anger." "Because he said, it was that man," "John muhammad, that did this to his son." "And he said, "my boy was a good boy!" "My boy was a good boy! "" "And I brought back the tape" "With his father's voice on it." "I really wanted him to hear the emotion from his father." "And I played it for him." "And then, I stopped the tape and I said," ""that is your dad." "Not muhammad." "That is your dad. "" "And so, that really was a big breakthrough" "Because he did not say no." "Malvo now knew his father cared." "And when his social worker arranged a series of calls" "Between the real father and son," "As well as a visit from a beloved teacher, malvo began to change." "He started to cooperate with his attorneys." "He started to talk." "After lee became aware of the tremendous manipulation" "And the brainwashing that had taken place" "And he began to separate himself from muhammad," "He displayed an interest in living." "In 2003, john muhammad and lee malvo were tried separately for their crimes." "A jury sentenced muhammad to death." "Malvo received life in prison without the possibility of parole." "His life was saved." "I was overwhelmed." "I really was overwhelmed." "What he had shared appeared to be the key to sparing his life." "Tell me, lee, with all the brainwashing that went on," "Describe the process to me of beginning" "To shrug off muhammad's influence" "And beginning to think for yourself." "Can you help me with that?" "It's kind of hard to explain." "What pushed me there is pain." "So much tragedy in a short period of time" "That I realized this is not what I wanted to be." "How did I end up here?" "I needed answers, and I had to start looking." "The only place I could look was within myself." "Malvo made a surprising decision." "He sent me a letter." "He proceeded to say I will testify against muhammad." "Montgomery county maryland prosecutor katherine winfree" "Brought a new case against john muhammad" "To avenge the 6 murders in her county." "She now had her key witness." "Lee told me he wanted to confront muhammad." "He wanted to try to bring some understanding" "To the families of the victims." "And I told him, "if you want this opportunity," ""then you have to talk about all these crimes," "Including some that we didn't know about."" "Lee malvo agreed to let prosecutor winfree" "Reveal the confessions he offered her." "One of those was a shooting of jerry taylor." "I believed that was something" "That the task force had suspected him of." "He confirmed killing taylor," "And later confessed to the tucson police." "He also admitted shooting albert michalczyk, who survived," "John gaeta in hammond, louisiana," "And a case in texas." "Denton, texas was a fatality." "It was just like another day to me." "And I was used to just driving out there," "Letting him out, and he would joke with me." "Billy gene dillon, the oldest of 4 boys." "Quick with a smile and a friendly word." "The glue that held the family together." "He worked with his hands" "Cutting grass, trimming trees" "For a day's honest wages." "I pulled up." "I said, "man"" " I said, "where's my son?"" "I see something covered." "It was billy gene under it." "I didn't know what happened to him." "I kept asking them." "This is where he was shot and murdered." "The sniper came from this way." "After the beltway snipers were apprehended," "We sent the bullet fragments to the fbi" "To see if they could determine" "Whether those were fired by the suspects." "There wasn't really enough there to determine anything." "It plays in my mind," "When I seen them lift him up, you know." "Put him in a bag." "That was my boy." "You always heard that word "closure."" "Nah, there won't never be a closure." "Billy gene was slain in may, 2002." "4 years later malvo told winfree and the dc sniper task force" "That he and muhammad shot him." "As lee described it to us," "Muhammad was the one who shot the man with a rifle" "While lee guarded with a pistol." "Malvo is just as guilty as muhammad." "And I want justice." "If he done it, I want to bring him back to denton," "In a court room and a judge hear it and sentence him." "I don't care." "I wished they'd put him down." "How do you feel today" "About the things that you did?" "I'm not proud of myself." "I'm just trying to make amends." "I loved you, billy gene." "Lee malvo's information provided answers to 4 shootings." "It also allowed him the opportunity to testify." "What malvo had not known when he made his offer" "Is he would have to confront muhammad face-to-face." "In may 2006, lee malvo, now 21 years old," "Was brought from his cell at red onion state prison" "To a courtroom in montgomery county, maryland," "Where he would confront john muhammad," "The man he once called father." "Mr. Malvo, why did you write me a letter?" "I'd been thinking for several months," "Contemplating if I can testify," "If I'm strong enough to do it." "Lee was still angry about what muhammad had done," "How he had essentially used and manipulated and betrayed him" "As the other adults had done in his life." "It was one thing to talk about how angry he was." "It was something quite different to essentially face his father." "Muhammad was going to be his own lawyer." "And, therefore, he would be crossing lee." "As muhammad cross-examined malvo," "He made a show of dominance," "Demonstrating by his questions how their relationship once worked." "The last time that we played basketball who won?" "You won." "I won." "And the last time we ran a quarter of a mile, who ran faster?" "You." "And last time we ran 5 miles, who ran faster?" "You." "Malvo's former father played on the times they had been close." "Isn't your testimony that one of the reasons" "Why that you was attracted to john allen muhammad" "Because the way that I treated the children" "Was the way that you wanted to be treated?" "Yes, sir." "Ok, and did I not treat you that way?" "For a period of time, ye" "That's not what I'm asking." "Did I not treat you that way?" "For a period of time, yes." "Malvo held firm, even sparing back." "How did you plea in virginia, mr." "Malvo?" "The actual plea was by insanity, meaning indoctrination." "Was there experts that said that you was insane?" "There were expertsts indoctrinated." "Do you understand what indoctrination is?" "Yes, sir." "Ok, what is it?" "Indoctrination is a process" "Under which the person who, myself," "Who came under your influence" "Is brought to do things" "He wouldn't have done on his own." "Through winfree's questions," "Malvo could speak the words he had come to say." "What was the difference that you perceived" "In the way john allen muhammad treated his biological sons" "And the way he treated you, mr." "Malvo?" "Mr. Muhammad did not use any of his children" "To murder other people." "Malvo turned and faced muhammad." "You took me in your house and you made me a monster, man." "In my opinion, that took a tremendous amount of guts." "What he did couldn't have been easy." "He did a great job." "I've prosecuted and used a lot of cooperating defendants." "He's quite simply the best I have ever seen." "Also in the courtroom that day" "Sonia hollingsworth-wills, the mother of beloved bus driver conrad johnson," "The last man to fall in the sniper rampage." "I talk to his pictures." "I just tell him I still love you." "She forgave malvo after witnessing his testimony." "Sonia wonders what might have changed had malvo met her son," "A jamaican and a father, instead of john muhammad." "If lee had met conrad," "Things would have gone completely different." "If lee had an attachment with a normal adult," "I feel pretty certain that none" "Of what transpired would have occurred." "Have you forgiven muhammad for taking you," "A boy, and making him into what he did?" "Have you forgiven him for that?" "Yes." "This is going to be surprising," "But I have" " I have forgiven him." "In the same way in whichi had t," "Gradually, forgive myself." "Little by little." "Everyday I get up," "Somebody's wife, child, husband" "Is not going to come home tonight." "Right." "And there is nothing that I can say or ever do" "That'll ever change that fact." "That is my constant reminder." "Someone else cannot breathe for you." "You can't allow someone else to think for you," "And when you do, these are the consequences." "Yeah." "One of the things that lee has grappled with" "Is the need to express to the survivors" "How deeply remorseful he is." "The first one that he expressed it to was cheryl witz." "Cheryl witz, the daughter of jerry taylor," "Said the loss of her father was incomprehensible." "Witz added, however strange as it seems," "She keeps a warm spot in her heart for malvo." "His apology helped her move on." "Just this February 2010, malvo asked hammond detective kohn milton" "To deliver a letter to john gaeta," "The man malvo shot through the neck and left for dead." "I mean, he apologized." "And I do accept it." "The lord says, you know, forgive others" "As he forgave those who persecuted him." "And so, I can do the same and move on." "But as the storm created by the dc snipers ended," "Lee malvo shared with neil blumberg" "A chilling detail about the third co-conspirator." "The third co-conspirator" "Who was stationed in phoenix, arizona," "Was on board with the idea until October of '02." "At that point, this individual said" "That he no longer wanted to participate." "The plan was to also execute him." "But they were already in dc." "He was in phoenix." "And there's no way to enforce that plan." "So, there is somebody out there" "Who was participating, aiding and abetting" "Both lee and muhammad in this venture." "And for lee malvo," "His journey ends paradoxically where he began" "Alone." "And isolated." "All that remains for him is to continue telling his story." "Does it give you a sense of hope" "That there is life after death?" "Hope and dread." "You have 10 seconds remaining." "It's a little bit of both." "It's hope and dread," "Because everything has to be repaid."