"Project Manager Summer Sanders was slow off the blocks," "As Cyndi Lauper spoke her mind." "But what about me?" "I art-direct my covers." "SUMMER:" "Um..." "Cyndi draws our attention" "I need " " I need two large pizzas." "Away from what we're supposed to be doing." "...while Sharon Osbourne's illness plagued her team." "Meanwhile, Project Manager Michael Johnson" "Was bogged down by Blagojevich." "He can't operate a computer." "It was literally just, "Dat, dat, dat, dat,"" "Like that, and it was - I was " " I was amazed." "My 9-year-old can type." "Rod can't." "And Darryl Strawberry's energy continued to slide." "Takes a lot of wear and tear on you, mentally and physically." "Okay." "And I was totally exhausted." "At the presentation, Michael's vision fell flat..." "The copy reads, "I'm Curtis Stone, celebrity chef."" "You could not read that screen." "No one in that room could read it." "...while Sharon Osbourne's illness plagued her team." "In the boardroom," "The women turned on Cyndi." "She kind of steers us in the wrong direction." "Her wordiness or the way" "She explains things can be a little difficult." "You're throwing me under the truck." "But when it came down to the results..." "The executives thought" "The women's team was far superior," "So the women win." "Summer scored an emotional victory for Tenacity." "Summer, I'm giving you a check for $20,000." "Oh, that's nice." "When left to face Mr. Trump," "Michael took full responsibility for the loss." "But whose idea was it to use so many words?" "My idea." "But Darryl had a shocking request." "And if you have to let anybody go, you can let " " It would be me." "Darryl, do you want to be fired?" "Yes." "All right." "Darryl, you're fired." "Hey!" "What happened?" "SUMMER:" "What happened?" "Darryl and I both tried to talk him into firing us," "And he chose Darryl." "After the lifelock loss," "You know, we were really disappointed." "Basically, Darryl said, "I want to leave." "I don't want to be here anymore."" "That's not falling on the sword." "That's just quitting." "Rod -- "I don't want to go home, Mr. Trump!"" "I don't want to go home" "Because I believe in my charity," "But I didn't want Darryl to do that." "Going forward, I don't think anyone knew," "You know, what we could do at that point to win," "Because we felt like we had done everything we could to win." "The phone's ringing." "Tenacity." "Mr. Trump would like you all back in the boardroom right away." "Okay." "Trump wants to see us all back in the boardroom again." "So, I immediately think to myself," ""Is he gonna fire somebody else?"" "Ay-yi-yi." "Okay." "All right." "Here we go again." "Okay." "We have to look to the future." "We forget about what just happened." "So, I want you to pick a Project Manager right now" "For your next task." "Go ahead." "MICHAEL:" "Rod." "Oh, Rod?" "Whoa!" "We're putting it on the line, Rod." "Happy to do it." "TRUMP:" "Okay." "I nominated Rod to be Project Manager" "Because I felt like, in the first three tasks," "Rod didn't contribute as much as anyone else did." "So, I felt like, "Okay, well, here's, you know," ""Rod Blagojevich, governor of Illinois, and he must have some leadership skills."" "Very good." "Sharon, who's your Project Manager?" "I'll do it." "Selita." "Very good." "I didn't hesitate." "I didn't wait for anyone to step up before I could." "So, I just raised my hand." "I wanted to prove that I'm capable of being a Project Manager." "Tomorrow morning, you're going out to Teterboro Airport." "You're gonna get on a plane, a Sentient Jet." "I will then give you your next task." "Yes!" "BRET:" "Awesome." "Yes!" "Now, don't get too excited." "Just Rod and Selita will be going." "SELITA:" "Ohh." "You don't need a passport for that." "I don't think so." "For the first time in "Celebrity Apprentice" History, the Project Managers will be separated from their teams." "Okay." "Go ahead." "Thank you." "TRUMP:" "Thank you." "Ha, ha!" "And it begins." ""Celebrity Apprentice" Has never done this before, and, of course, it's when I decide that I want to step up to the plate." "Yeah, great." "I don't know what the task is, and I don't know if I can do it without you guys, so hopefully " " HOLLY:" "Oh, we are." "Hopefully you guys are right there." "I absolutely trust my girls in their judgment, and I know that there are some really strongly opinionated women in that room." "So, I asked them to stick together and just stay strong for me." "Just give us jobs." "Give me a job." "Absolutely." "I'm gonna give you a job." "Mr. Goldberg, make history together." "We're gonna kick some ass, man." "I don't like to lose." "I'm gonna tell you this much - We're not gonna lose again." "You gonna work hard?" "I'm gonna work hard." "I'm here to work hard, man." "I've been chosen to be the Project Manager on a task." "We're not quite sure what that task is." "We're on a losing streak, and we want to get back in the winning column, and we're gonna work real hard to try to do that." "There's not one loser on this team." "How do we pull back together?" "We put it aside and we move forward." "BRET:" "Right." "Look, we've just lost two tasks in a row." "So this one's super-important." "We have to win it." "I'm feeling pretty nervous about this one." "Anyway, guys, we'll put it in." "Let's kick some ass." "Rocksolid!" "BRET:" "Come on, man." "A limo." "Morning." "Well, first, the limo picks us up, not the normal van, and I'm like, "Whoo-hoo!" "This is pretty nice!"" "But at the same time," "I just didn't know what was in store for me." "Man, it's a shame when you're up and the sun's not up yet." "I'm a little concerned about this -- this task." "Are you?" "Yes." "Okay, good." "Yeah." "I have no idea what to expect." "I had no idea where we were gonna go, except that we were gonna get on a plane at Teterboro Airport and that we were going somewhere in the continental United States." "I think anytime you have a project to take on..." "Yeah." "...there's a healthy concern." "Yeah, I think, when you're overly confident, those are the ones that crash and burn." "That's why, you know, I volunteered myself for this task." "Interesting." "Is that right?" "Absolutely." "I felt challenged, you know?" "Yeah, got a little chip on your shoulder 'cause you're beautiful and you don't want people to think you're dumb." "Is that it?" "Because I'm the model." "I'm the, you know, underestimated one, and it's fine, because, you know, other than modeling," "I have a lot of skills, I have a lot of talent." "I think anyone who's successful has to have some smarts." "I agree." "Need a hand?" "Thank you." "Ooh!" "Wow." "Hi." "Good morning." "How are you?" "Good morning." "I'm sure you're wondering why I dragged you out here." "Well, today we'll be flying to the Universal Orlando Resort." "Universal Orlando has created a highly anticipated attraction called The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "When you land in Orlando, you'll gather information about this new attraction." "You'll report your findings back to your team in New York City, who will begin work immediately under your direction." "Your team's task is to create and present a three-dimensional interactive display generating buzz among "Harry Potter" Fans." "After your tour, you'll fly back to New York City and rejoin your team." "You'll present your display to a group of young "Harry Potter" Fans," "Universal executives, and the "Harry Potter" Fans will determine who the winner will be." "Erin Burnett and George Ross will be my eyes and ears back here in New York." "The winning Project Manager gets $20, 000 for your charity, and, as always, the team that loses will come back to the boardroom, and another celebrity, sadly, will be fired." "Good luck, and remember " "FAA regulations require that all electronic devices be turned off." "So turn off your cellphones and don't call your team until you land." "Have a nice flight." "Orlando!" "Is that what he said?" "Coming up..." "CYNDI:" "I've been trained for 20 years, from album cover number one." "She's a control freak." "Like, "Okay, Holly Peete Robinson, whatever."" "Hi, Summer." "So good to see you." "SUMMER:" "Good to see you." "I won $20,000 for Right To Play, and I'm so excited, because the Deputy National Director, Mario Argote, just happens to be in New York hanging out with some kids, playing soccer." "I got involved with Right To Play in 1996." "We bring sport and play to developing countries and children who've been affected by war." "The kids that Right To Play affects have seen such atrocities." "All they've known for the past 10 years is war." "To literally trade out a gun for a ball is an absolute honor." "I've seen the look in the eyes of these kids when they are given that opportunity to challenge themselves." "So, Mario, I was Project Manager the other day." "And so, I went into the boardroom and, um, uh..." "Mr. Trump said, "You won, Summer."" "Right." "So, with that, he gave me..." "Oh, my God!" "Whoo!" "Oh, that is so amazing!" "Oh, thank you!" "Thank you!" "And hopefully there's more to come." "Thank you so much." "So much." "You're welcome!" "Not only did we win $20,000, but lifelock and Norton 360 have decided to donate $10 per every adult membership to Right To Play." "This $20,000 has a chance to be a lot more." "Good kick." "Whoo!" "All right!" "It's feeling a bit empty, boys." "Well, so far, we're missing Rod." "There's a reason for that, right?" "Michael, you didn't do anything to him, did you?" "Rod's not here this morning." "The Project Manager got on a jet and flew to an undisclosed location." "Everything's secretive." "The fear of the unknown kind of sucks sometimes, but the reality is, when we get the word from Rod, we're gonna hit the ground running." "Hey, guys?" "Can I talk to you guys for a minute?" "When I used to go into the record companies " "And they had one of these dry boards." "And on it, they'd put everybody's name and who was supposed to do what." "I brought in a dry-erase board because we need to be more task-specific." "You get very task-specific, we get more done." "And this would be very specific, and then you just cross it off as we get it." "That may not work for every task..." "CYNDI:" "I know." "depending on what the tasks are." "Anyway..." "Well, Holly's very bossy." "Sometimes you could be like a know-it-all, and you act like bossy, saucy gal, but you shouldn't." "You'll be over here doing this, but that wasn't necessarily your task." "I wouldn't butt in." "But you did." "I'm telling you" "I've been trained for 20 years doing the same thing from album cover number one." "That woman, she's a control freak." "Like, "Okay, Holly Peete Robinson, whatever." "Go." "You go."" "I get five hours sometimes to shoot four videos, okay?" "And I'm the director." "And who directs the art covers?" "Me." "I'm not a "Songstress," Honey." "But everybody has a - Everybody has a story," "Cyndi." "I understand, but you " "We're all here for our charities, so I think we should just keep our mouths shut." "I'm not Cyndi's protector, but I respect Cyndi." "I just want you all to see - What is it like without Cyndi?" "I'm sorry." "SHARON:" "Without Cyndi, this would be the most boring thing, 'cause you guys would be... like watching ice melt." "You know, I'm the biggest one to say, "Shut up, Cyndi,"" "but there's a way of doing it without hurting people, and I felt that the others weren't giving her the respect that she deserved." "That's an opinion." "We're behind our boy Rod." "Where do you think he's gone?" "CURTIS:" "Um." "I think they're somewhere, and they're gonna manage the project from wherever they are." "Let's just hope he doesn't have to use a computer out there." "So, Rod's a very important person in politics." "And so he has quite an infrastructure around him." "So Rod, bless his heart, he doesn't necessarily know how to send an e-mail." "Rod has never taught himself how to use a computer." "Rod being a total technical reject worries us." "This is him." "He's sitting there going, "What's that?"" "Come on, Rod." "Answer your phone." "Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice-messaging system." "Whoever's picking up this voicemail in a couple of months' time can you please tell Rod that we love him, no matter what happened back then, that it's all okay?" "Whatever happened back then." "MICHAEL:" "That's great." "If Rod has to send an e-mail today," "I sure as hell hope that there's a homing pigeon somewhere around that he can attach a note to." "One of the biggest components of this challenge was that the Project Managers were being separated from the rest of their teams." "So the communications part was gonna be very important." "You can communicate through text-messaging, which is something I have no idea how to do, or you can communicate by telephone, which is something I do and some would say I do all too often." "My task is to create a 3-D interactive experience for The Wizarding World of Harry Potter for Universal Orlando." "The great part about flying to Orlando is that the flight allowed me that time to brainstorm." "What do you have, fruit, there?" "Um..." "I'll have that in a little - in a little while." "I was excited because I pretty much knew this wasn't something that Rod could excel in, 'cause it was something about creativity, and it was outside of his realm because, you know, he's a businessman." "He's a " " He's a politician." "Hello." "How are you?" "Are you ready to go?" "I need to get my briefcase, is what I need." "Are you sure you need all that?" "Just in case." "I'm not even " "I'm not talking to you, 'cause I'm not helping you." "You're the enemy." "Goodbye." "Holly, you want to get it?" "HOLLY:" "Nah, you get it." "Sorry, sorry sorry!" "Hello?" "I just want to let you guys know that I am in Orlando." "We are doing a task for Universal Studios because they are opening up a new part of the theme park called The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Oh, I love "Harry Potter."" "I've come up with an idea for the 3-D experience." "I'm gonna take a picture of it right now and send it to you guys so that you can call the fabricator and get him started." "Can you give each one of us a specific task?" "I can't give anyone tasks because I haven't even seen the park yet." "Hey, Selita." "SELITA:" "Yes, ma'am." "Did you fly down there with the governor or did you fly by yourself?" "No, no." "I flew with the governor." "Can I just tell you guys that he doesn't even know how to work the computer." "How does he not know how to use a computer?" "I mean, it's 2010." "Everyone knows how." "Even my grandmother knows how to use a computer." "Is there anything productive we can do?" "There we go." "Hello?" "Hello?" "Hot Rod!" "Look, technology is not Rod's best friend." "Let's just be honest, okay?" "He's " " He's just getting used to it." "So, you know, he'll be standing there, looking at his phone, going, "Hmm."" "That's about it." "Hey, how are you guys?" "Doing good, man." "Where are you, Rod?" "Oh, yeah, sorry." "I'm in Orlando, Florida, all right?" "We've been assigned to create a three-dimensional interactive display for Universal Orlando's new attraction" "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Rod." "Yeah?" "What is the definition of a three-dimensional display?" "Bret, you understand it better than I do." "Tell us what that means, definition of 3-D display." "Well, three-dimension is you're in it, almost like a Nativity scene." "CURTIS:" "Yeah." "Do you know what I mean?" "Like a live church Nativity scene." "So, Rod calls from Orlando, right, and one of the first things out of his mouth, he says," ""Bret, what's a 3-D display?"" "And I'm thinking, "This is not good."" "I just want to share who should do what particular tasks." "I have some ideas." "I'd like to assign you, Bret, to sort of manage the design stuff while I'm here, okay?" "Absolutely." "Rod puts yours truly in charge of the creative..." "Curtis is in charge of communication..." "I believe Goldberg was in charge of graphics... and Michael is in charge of finances and timing." "I'm gonna tell you guys, I've got a really strong vision." "Cool." "If you guys will entrust on me, I swear to you, the girls won't stand a chance." "BILL:" "All over it, man." "Okay, let's " " Let's kick some ass." "I just need to say something." "I need to get my game face on." "I did not come to be entertaining." "I think I was less offended by it than I just felt like it was totally an inaccurate statement." "Very insensitive, kind of random, but just flat-out wrong." "I came because my son has autism, and 1 in 91 kids will have this, and it devastates families, and I came here for my charity." "What makes you think anybody doesn't want to win money for their charity?" "I'm just saying I did." "That doesn't make sense to you?" "That makes sense, honey." "I'm saying everybody did." "There was some tension today." "And I think Sharon and Cyndi have bonded and Holly and Summer have bonded, and I feel like I'm in the middle." "Like, I don't really agree with this side and I don't know if I agree with that side." "To be honest with you, I just want to get the task done." "Yeah, I came because I wanted more attention." "I'm not saying you did, Sharon, but you just got finished saying that it'd be like watching ice melt." "If I'm boring, hey, you know what?" "If I'm like watching ice melt, well, then just call me a glacier and let's get it on." "I didn't come to be funny." "SHARON:" "You couldn't be." "Okay." "You texting something?" "That's right." "'Cause I can't talk too much with you here, now, can I?" "Right now we're heading to the theme park to meet with the executives of Universal that work directly with The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Success comes in all forms -- whatever you aspire to accomplish in life, like me kicking your ass in this challenge." "Well, I wish you well in all your endeavors, except this one." "There's an advantage when you can sit somewhere where you can't communicate and you can text-message." "Being able to get those ideas out and then just immediately send them to somebody is an efficient way of communicating, but it's not something I ever had to do when I was the governor." "You have nothing to do?" "Who?" "Me?" "Yeah, you." "I-I don't know how to text." "So, I " " There's noth- I can't do that." "Well, you know, I don't think the texting or the e-mailing's that big a deal, the fact that I don't know how to do that." "We won't not win because of text-messaging or e-mails." "That'll just be an excuse for people to point fingers afterwards." "Guys, I'm gonna look up the e-mail she just sent us." "Come look at this!" "This is awesome." "She was like, "Excuse my drawing."" ""Roof will look like a castle."" "Selita was on top of it." "She sent us the diagram that she drew and the way she wanted the display to work out." "We're heading down to Creech." "We're gonna head down to our war room." "Keep texting." "I like your texts." "Thank you." "Hi." "Hi." "I'm Selita Ebanks." "DONNA:" "I'm Donna." "Rod Blagojevich." "How are you?" "Dennis Woodberry." "How do you do?" "We're really thrilled you're here." "We want to welcome you to Universal Orlando Resort." "Universal Orlando Resort is proud to be the home of The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Let's take a closer look." "DONNA:" "All right, let's go." "Great." "I'm so excited." "Do you mind if I take a few photos?" "Oh, please!" "So, now we're coming up upon Hagrid's hut." "You can see the amazing level of detail and authenticity that goes into creating these structures." "Down to the foliage, down to the trees, down to the paths, the lighting " "Everything about this park is literally derived from Harry Potter's world " "Everything." "Now, you got to remember, this all starts back with J.K. Rowling crafting these spellbinding novels." "To give you a sense of the scope and scale of the project, we created this model to guide our thinking in how to bring the entire world to reality." "I'm a big fan of that whole "Harry Potter" Experience." "It's an enchanted world filled with wizardry and magic and broomsticks and pumpkin brew and chocolate frogs." "The whole thing is kind of a cool place to be, and, you know, sometimes I wish" "I was actually there on a permanent basis." "So, as you can see, we've gone to great lengths to make sure this new land is completely authentic to the "Harry Potter" Books and films." "So your marketing presentation can be no exception." "It's your job now to bring what you've learned about The Wizarding World of Harry Potter to life in your display." "Once they said to make it as authentic as possible to the park, it was pretty much self-explanatory." "It's a 3-D world you want kids to walk through and get excited about going to the actual park." "We've got an amazing array of things here for you." "You can even take some of the merchandise with you to use in your presentation." "Both of us were invited to basically take a whole bunch of different "Harry Potter" Merchandise that we could use in our displays." "Make sure he doesn't get anything that I get, okay?" "So, there was that sort of healthy competition between the two of us to gather as much of the merchandise as we could." "I just want to make sure that I fully understand the purpose of this task." "DONNA:" "Yes, the idea is for you to create this interactive display so when you present it to the group of "Harry Potter" Fans, we want you to get across the experience to them, but the idea is" "that we could take this experience on the road with us, you know, to generate all the buzz for The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "SELITA:" "Okay." "I think " " I think I'm good." "All right." "Here's my thought." "This is an overview." "Over here, we paint a path." "You have flashes." "It scares kids, but it doesn't freak them out " "Big difference." "My brain is always working on creating stuff and then turning it into something." "As a songwriter, I can take a thought, take it, turn it into music, turn it into a video." "And I think the team just turned to me to be able to spark the right idea." "So, do we want to sit down and start going through this?" "There's not a lot of room, but you still got to walk through something." "We definitely need a person to drive them through." "Going in to the fabricator's, we need to just leave our sensitivities at the door and just soldier on, because it is for charity, and with all these strong women, we might just rip each other's throats out" "if we're not careful." "So, this is the rough area of what you want to do." "Rough area, rough dimensions." "Yeah." "Okay. 8 feet." "Selita just put this down as a rough idea of what she wants." "Could this front part be the owl area and then this back part be, like, a different wand area?" "When Selita's not there, we're just trying to come up with a basic concept using the example that she gave us." "There's the dragon." "There's the picture frame." "The picture frame." "Right, and then there's the wand delivery system." "Wand delivery system." "With air and lights." "You know, you should come up with all of your ideas, kind of prioritize them." "We have to check with Selita." "It's much different not having your Project Manager on-site." "We have a lot of unanswered questions." "So there's a lot of sitting around," "Let's go this." "Here, I'm throwing it to you." "You tell me." "Kind of waiting for final sw" "We're looking this way." "I say we open this thing up and have no sides." "If I have to walk into this and 12 kids get through this in a day, imagine me with my daughters, who don't listen to anything." ""Come on, kids." "The party's over."" ""I don't want to go." "" She's in the corner crying." "You know, the other one wants to go get candy." "I think it's a disaster." "Bret's got a really unique way of articulating himself, so sometimes it takes a while to really understand exactly what he's getting to." "I think we go back to it being interactive here." "Hey, Bret." "I'm a little lost." "Just tell me " "What am I gonna see and what am I gonna do?" "The concept was, uh, very difficult." "I still can't explain it." "This whole interior " "Everything becomes the interior of a castle." "What sort of a room in a castle?" "That, I don't know yet." "Let's just get in there and do it." "All right." "You know, we have come all the way back to square one." "Coming up..." "CURTIS:" "It's been a really interesting dynamic having our Project Manager on the other side of the country." "I took the creative and ran with it." "My head's on the chopping block." "And later..." "CURTIS:" "So, what have we achieved?" "We have a general sense that we're gonna have fun." "We're gonna ad lib a lot of stuff." "There wasn't a plan for the presentation." "The plan for the presentation was, we haven't got a plan." "Can I go to the prop house?" "Actually, let's go one more time through." "Our task is to create a 3-D experience, and this 3-D experience is supposed to be a small example on what you would experience in Orlando, Florida, at The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "So, potion bottles, cat, four drapes." "Owl." "MARIA:" "Owl." "Are you gonna do the graphic of the " "Frames." "Excuse me." "I don't know who's taking the lead." "We're trying to decide what props we're gonna get." "So, for me, I'm, like, worrying about," ""Oh, my gosh." "Are we gonna get this done?"" "Lots and lots of cooks in the kitchen." "Hey, hey." "SELITA:" "Hey, guys." "Are you in the war room now?" "Yes, ma'am." "Oh, my gosh, we have a ton of carpenters that are ready to make all of our stuff, and they want to get rolling, so we want to get your approval on things." "We have them making wands." "Is that okay?" "No." "I have wands." "You have wands." "Aha!" "Okay, great." "Finally, Selita phoned from Orlando to talk about the task." "Here's Sharon." "Hold on." "Selita, you want it to be like a little bit of a maze inside?" "It's only 14 feet by 8 feet, so that doesn't leave us a lot of space." "Time was really of the essence." "I mean, we were late in getting all this information." "Tell you something - Now that I think about it and looking at the size of this, in my brain, I have this haunted-house thing, but the more I look at this, you walk in here, you're like " "Where do I -- "Okay." "Now my experience is over?"" "It could suck." "There's always a lot to be done with these tasks." "So, a lot to get done, you know, in a day." "I mean, you're talking about building something that, you know, anybody in their right mind would take three weeks to do." "Here's the gov." "Hello?" "Hey, Curtis." "We're just, um, still trying to get the creative down." "Can you put Bret on the phone?" "CURTIS:" "One sec." "Bret, are you there?" "BRET:" "We're here." "Okay, Bret, you've got to take a little slice of this whole "Harry Potter" World and kind of maximize that." "My question to you " " Do they want to walk in to this display or do they want to keep people looking?" "I mean " " Well, what do you think, Bret?" "Decisions have to be made." "You're gonna have to make those decisions." "Bret, you're in charge." "I don't feel like Rod was a good Project Manager, because he did not really give us any direction at all." "He tried to delegate, but I think he stopped with delegation." "You follow what I'm saying?" "I'm " " I'm doing my best." "So, Rod's turned the creative over to me, and, you know, I got to be honest." "I'm a little worried right now, you know, because I'm thinking, "I got to pull this off." "This is falling on my shoulders."" "Here's what we're gonna do." "Create me this castle scene." "And then these will be the castle doors leaving." "Create the library over here." "So, basically, castle, library." "Yeah." "We're taking a lot of artistic direction from Bret Michaels." "You know, we're coming down to the wire and he's getting a little bit more focused with what he wants it to look like." "We could start by building these three walls so we have them." "Right." "Let's do it." "That's it." "It's done." "Let's do it." "We do have a lot of work to do, but we got a lot of people, and if these guys on the Rocksolid team really jump in with us, we should be able to get this all done." "We'll find out." "One, two, three." "So, six of them." "Thank you." "Yeah." "We're at the design center now." "How did you go on the meetings?" "Very helpful." "I should point out " "The whole world's listening, including Selita sitting next to me " " Just FYI." "So speak at your peril, okay?" "We have a long flight, don't we?" "Two hours." "ROD:" "Well, there you go." "Coming back from Orlando," "I just started working on the storyline and the experience." "I just keep watching the DVD over and over and over again." "And I look over and this man is knocked out." "I'm talking about cold." "He has his glasses on, and he's just, like... gone, asleep." "And I was like, "Maybe I should kick him."" "I thought maybe he thought it was like a break time." "I didn't feel well." "I was still seriously sick." "It's very bad in there today because of all the sawdust." "I think that I was coughing up sawdust flugies all day." "Hi!" "ROSS:" "Hi." "How are you?" "Hello." "Mr. Trump sent me over here to see how you're doing." "We're a little hemmed up because our Project Manager is on a flight from Orlando." "George is Mr. Trump's eyes and ears, and when George came, we were waiting for Selita to come back from Orlando, and we were just stopped down." "I don't know how much more we could have done." "Should I walk you through it?" "You're gonna walk in through the mouth of a dragon." "We're gonna hopefully make it seem like it's super tall, even though we only have 8 feet." "That's very bold." "Did you mention the dragon?" "A lot of work, yeah." "A lot of work." "I've never seen a team so cool, calm, and collected before a storm." "It's a very ambitious project." "If they can pull it off, it should be -- it should be great." "So, what do you think, George?" "If you can pull it off." "Don't you have faith in us?" "Hello." "BURNETT:" "Hi, guys." "How are you?" "Nice to meet you." "I'm Bret." "Hi, Bret." "Nice to see you." "I'm Erin Burnett from CNBC." "I know exactly who you are." "So, Donald Trump's eyes and ears is hot -- smokin'-hot Erin Burnett, and I'm like, "Hello!"" "She's beautiful." "She is." "She's smart, funny, very together, and she's a beautiful, beautiful woman." "This is the interior of the castle." "You know, like old-school" "Coney Island haunted house kind of feel." "I think of back when I was a kid and I went to the old haunted houses." "They were really cheesy, but I felt like me and my dad got an experience." "Right." "Realistically, it was a lot of carnies smoking weed." "Right." "You know, but then I didn't know." "I thought it was awesome, and it just smelled good." "I sort of take her under my wing, and only for business purposes do I overly want to explain everything to her." "I'm not sure that Erin necessarily loved our creative or hated it, but I was just gonna keep talking to her anyway." "That's what the important thing was." "Nice to meet you." "I watch all the time." "Oh, yeah, right." "I do!" "For real!" "All right, so, Rod is on his way back, right?" "Yeah, yeah, yeah." "Okay." "Flying back." "He's doing all right?" "He give you what you needed or...?" "It's been a really interesting dynamic having our Project Manager on the other side of the country, because he's pretty much leave it up to us." "And darling Rod, he's slightly technically challenged, so that's..." "What?" "Like, on the - 'Cause he could e-mail, right?" "No." "BILL:" "No, he couldn't." "No?" "Really?" "There's so many bad jokes I could make right now." "I think Rod's technological issues are significant." "One of the things I think is interesting as a team dynamic, though, is that Bret says, "If it fails, it's because Rod didn't communicate something."" "Should Rod be the one to go or should Bret be the one to go?" "I took the creative and ran with it." "My head's on the chopping block." "There's no doubt." "Not long ago lad a thought, right in the back of a taxi." "Using a PC should be simpler." "Oh, that looks fantastic!" "So I told Microsoft." "And look at is." "Our concept, it's actually coming together really nicely." "When we heard it was 3-D," "Windows 7, with this n taskbar." "we knew we had to have some grand entrance." "Now I can see everything that I have open." "It's just miles simpr." "You know, what kid wouldn't love to walk through a dragon mouth?" "I toldhem what to do and they did it." "And then you walk in to Ollivander's," "I could rely get used to this." "which is the wand shop, to become a wizard." "Onwards driver!" "Maybe once he's done, I can have him mix up some colors, and we can just start painting all these." "SUMMER:" "Yeah." "I'm a PC and Wdows 7 was my idea." "This manicure is done!" "We have been making a lot of decisions, and I think that we've included Selita on most of them." "So, it'll be interesting to see what she says when she comes back." "I hope that she likes everything, because if not, we're screwed." "Yeah." "All this gets covered in stone." "It's gonna look nice." "Yeah, this is great." "It feels amazing watching all this come to life, and I'm feeling pretty good right now, but I got to admit I'm also feeling pretty nervous and I'm hoping that Rod is gonna really like where we're going with this" "and actually get where we're trying to go with this." "Like I said, if this thing's a total disaster," "I'll take complete fall on it, you know what I mean?" "But you know what I'm saying?" "No." "I think it's a good idea." "I'll take the fall." "I like it." "I like it." "Look, if we don't win this task, who's Rod gonna point his finger at?" "BRET:" "Done." "He pretty much passed over the Project Manager's role to Bret." "You know, all the creative work was to be done by Bret." "What's the ceiling gonna look like?" "With the ceiling, uh..." "You know, Rod's a politician." "Maybe he did this on purpose." "Maybe Bret's the man that's gonna be sitting there with him next to Mr. Trump." "See you guys." "Thanks for the ride." "Thank you!" "Ooh!" "When we landed back in Teterboro, I was like," ""Let's go!" "Time to go." "We got to go!" "Where's the car?"" "And I made sure that my bags were not mixed up with Mr. Rod's bags." "I didn't want him to have none of my goodies, okay?" "How we doing, guys?" "Good over here, man." "Painting up good." "Hey." "Rod!" "How's it going?" "I'm doing good, buddy." "How you doing?" "Good, man." "We got a good, positive energy in here, man." "We're cranking." "Looks good, man." "I'll give you the overview once I get this done." "We're in good hands here." "Look at that Goldberg." "What a worker." "When I got to Brooklyn and walked in to the studio," "I was delighted with what I saw." "Do what you need to do." "I was not really surprised." "I saw early stages of the development of the Hogwarts Castle, and it was encouraging." "Hey." "When I walked in the office..." "How was it?" "ROD:" "Good." "...Michael and Curtis were eating dinner." "I think they were eating ribs or something." "There is a little voice in my mind that says that maybe Bret could have had a little bit more help." "When I first walked in to the design studio," "I was a little scared because I didn't know what I was gonna see." "I didn't know how far along they were on the project." "I didn't even know if they even started the project." "Oh, my gosh!" "That looks so good!" "MARIA:" "Hi, guys." "So, here are some Christmas lights for in this section." "But there's no twinkle." "There's no stars." "You don't want it to look like stars?" "Because there's none in the storyline that they gave us." "The girls did a marvelous job, but at the end of the day, I was the Project Manager." "And being the fact that I was the only person to meet with the executives, I knew exactly what they wanted." "So, when I came back, there was a few details that I had to change." "We just need to get an idea, a concept of what we're all doing tomorrow." "SELITA:" "Yep." "I'm gonna do the presentation." "Miss lovely Maria is in charge of the, um..." "The mystical, magical wands!" "And are you gonna be in charge of the boxes?" "If they can do it." "It was so much better to have Selita in human form telling us, you know, what we should be doing, what are our roles for the presentation." "Okay." "Perfect." "Rod, if you don't play a major part in that presentation, if I was the executive, I'd think, "Why weren't you involved?"" "As I'm working here, I'm gonna think about the key message, which is "Opening in the spring, lot of fun."" "You know, I'll think about a short, little message." "I think what we need to do is write it up and say, well, how's it gonna go?" "You know, how are we gonna present it?" "We'll just hand them candy, have fun, and just ad lib." "Our task will be judged by a focus group of young "Harry Potter" Fans." "So, I made the decision that we should do more improv than anything that was too scripted." "In my experience, when you're too scripted, it's not natural." "I think kids get a better sense of whether you're real or not, and they would see through it." "I think the best way to go with this is it's got to be a show, it's got to be very theatrical." "So, what have we achieved?" "We have a general sense that we're gonna have fun, we're gonna ad lib a lot of stuff, right?" "You want us to get to work?" "You want something else from us?" "Yeah." "Yeah." "I think that's good." "Whatever you want." "There wasn't a plan for the presentation." "The plan for the presentation was, we haven't got a plan." "Coming up..." "MICHAEL:" "An old chair." "Should we get that?" "Use your judgment, Michael." "Anything else you feel fits the mood..." "He's a governor." "That's unbelievable." "It is what it is at this point." "You know, remember bullet points." "Creatures of lore." "Interactive." "Magic." "Creatures beyond your imagination." "So, Rod and Goldberg and myself are in the van." "We're heading to the presentation space, and at this point, Curtis and Michael kind of break off and they're going to pick up some stuff for inside of our wizarding castle." "Listen." "In the beginning, talk to those executives, too, before you go on to your kids." "Most of it's gonna be about the kids." "Do we agree with that, Bret?" "What you want to do is engage in their fun." "Say, where would you go?" "What's your favorite school?" "Is it Hogwalds?" "Is it " " Is it Dussel" " That's good." "It's not Hogwarts." "It's not a school, but you'll get it." "Hufflepuff or whatever." "Go ahead." "Here, let me say this to you." "I don't know words, so don't " " I'll get you." "Just let me roll with the words." "Roll." "Go ahead." "You got to go easy on me, Rod." "You got to go easy." "I'm calm." "I'm good." "I'll make it great." "I know you will." "Rod started to really stress me out." "He just kept going at me." ""You got to remember this, do this, stand on your ear," ""Don't do that, stand with this foot up," ""Put this leg over your head, and then deliver all this 'Harry Potter' information."" "I'm like, "Look, Rod, they're kids." "They're here to have fun."" "It's a great opportunity." "I got it, but let me " " Okay." "You're gonna lose - In your own words." "I got it." "Let me " " It's the point you got to make." "The Wizardr" " Wizarding World " "Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "The Wizarding World." "Yeah." "So, this morning Michael and I ran down to Eclectic, the prop house, to pick up the last few little finishing touches to our design." "Hello!" "What have you got "Harry Potter"?" "Hello!" "Um, I'll show you upstairs." "We're missing quite a few things for our display and key features." "So, we didn't know what to go and buy." "Go ahead." "Hey." "Is, uh, Rod there with you?" "I'm right here, Michael." "Hi." "Here's what we got so far -- a table that we can put, you know, stuff on, and then we've got, like, a candelabra, um, a chandelier." "Anything else you guys can think of?" "Okay." "How about a chair, like an old chair?" "Should we get that?" "Use your judgment, Michael." "You can do that, too." "Anything else you feel fits the mood, use your judgment." "I asked him if he had any thoughts or ideas about props for the exhibit." "At that point, you know, there wasn't any, and we didn't have a lot of direction from Rod." "Well, no " " Tell me your vision." "Your vision is?" "He's a governor." "That's unbelievable." "Maybe he's got so many people around him that he never has to make a decision or maybe " "You know, we didn't see " "We didn't " " We didn't see much from him." "It is what it is at this point, yeah." "Morning, morning." "All righty!" "Um, I don't know if you notice or not, but it's not all together." "So, you need to decide what the orientation is, I guess." "I mean, this is kind of the space." "Yeah." "It's " " It's not " "Not too angled, not too flat, but just..." "I'm feeling a little overwhelmed." "The project's done." "It's just not assembled." "So, there's a lot of work to do." "All right." "So, I guess we need to do some work, huh?" "Wizards and muggles alike!" "Kitty cat." "Here, kitty, kitty, kitty." "Well, we have two choices." "We can either just leave it blank or put those stickers." "So, then, why don't we put these on the envelopes?" "WOMAN:" "Okay." "We don't have a lot of time to get everything in place, all of the lights together, all of our special effects, and then rehearse our actual presentation." "So, we all pitched in and found something that we could do to help out." "Bing!" "Perfecto." "You know, I could stand like this." "Stand erect and strong, man." "Move up here for a second." "See how it looks." "Can you " " Here." "Let's see what that's like." "Yeah." "I feel good about it." "He has to be on the other side." "We might not have a script, but in my mind, in my old noggin," "I've got a good idea of what's gonna go on here, right?" "Killing me." "So, Goldberg is gonna be our tree, and then Curtis will be the professor who will invite the kids into the castle." "The headmaster's gonna be Rod, and then we have Michael in some really kind of creepy outfit." "It's a suit." "Yeah." "Okay?" "So, this is the roots." "The roots are key, because the roots are what " "Weeping whimper." "I-I feel really good about the presentation itself." "Now, about my role in it, that's a different story." "It's kind of like the anti-previous challenge." "You know what I'm saying?" "Yes." "BILL:" "Exactly." "There you had your shirt off." "Now you got everything " "Now you're overdressed." "Yeah." "I begged and pleaded to let me take my shirt off again as opposed to turning me into a weeping whomper or whatever the hell that is." "I got to tell you, man, I love it." "It's looking right." "All right, Bill, see you around." "you!" "Come on." "Did I mention I was claustrophobic?" "It's either gonna be the greatest thing that ever happened or the best laugh I've ever had." "I provide you with the stupidest moment ever on the history of "The Apprentice."" "There we go." "You just tell me what to hold, and I'll..." "I love it draped just like that." "This, I don't like." "What do you think of that?" "It's, like, your first impression you get." "That's kind of cheap." "First impression, I like it." "Is it redundant?" "Yes, but that's what we're selling." "What are you doing?" "What are you doing?" "I didn't like that thing there." "Rod, I think that's a mistake, man." "What are you gonna put there?" "I don't know." "We've got nothing." "We have a lot left to do, and it seems like little foibles keep happening along the way, but I'm trying to remain calm, because losing my cool right now would be the wrong thing to do." "Right now, it's, uh " " It's beating all of us up." "All right." "We're wasting time talking about this." "I made a command decision." "I didn't like it." "I love you, man." "And you're doing " "This is unbelievable what you're doing." "I just didn't -- Somehow I didn't like that thing." "Rod, you better figure this out real quick." "Coming up..." "Don't look at me." "Muggles and wizards, muggles and wizards." "I'm like, " Sake, Cyndi, shut up!"" "Wizards and muggles!" "And later..." "Right as I thought it couldn't get any creepier..." "Now, do you think you can take control of the wand?" "I'm like, "Oh, God." "We're going to prison after this creepy castle ride."" "Welcome, welcome, young wizards." "Take a seat, please." "Wizards and muggles alike, welcome to a world unlike no other." "Please don't be afraid, for not everything seems to be what it is." "In our presentation," "I came up with this little horrible British accent that is so sad." "Open the door to Ollivander's, but you may think you're in Zonko's joke shop." "I don't care how awful my accent is or whatever." "I mean, if I was on the runway and I felt like, you know, a boob was about to pop out," "I wasn't gonna stop, turn around, and run back, no." "I'm gonna tuck it in and keep moving, you know?" "And, please, don't forget to tell your parents to visit The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Young wizard." "Be very careful as you enter The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Be careful." "Don't look at me." "Look at the screen." "Look at the screen." "Muggles and wizards, muggles and wizards, muggles and wizards, muggles and..." "Cyndi was, like, totally in character." ""Don't look at me!" "Don't look at me!" "Don't look at me!"" "Muggles and wizards, you'll need that." "You'll need that." "Off to Ollivander." "Off to Ollivander." "And I'm going like this." "I'm like, " Sake, Cyndi, shut up!"" "Come this way!" "Come this way!" "Welcome!" "Welcome to Ollivander's!" "As you know, your wand chooses you!" "So, you know, let's see." "Which one would be yours?" "The kids were looking at me like," ""Is this lady crazy?"" "Please check this wall right here." "Oh, oh!" "Oh, no, no, no." "This isn't right." "I was part of the special effects as just a way to kind of make it interactive, like the boxes are coming off." "Maybe I have one for you over here." "Let's see." "How about this one?" "That is the one that wants you!" "I think they really loved the presentation and how well it was done." "I like playing around with kids." "This one." "Oh, there you go!" "There you go!" "It likes you!" "Okay, please come out this way." "Please come out this way." "Congratulations on completing the forbidden journey." "Please take a chocolate frog, a Blood Pop, some Bertie Bott Beans." "Part of the criteria is the overall experience for these young people, and they have a very high standard, and so it was very important to come off authentic." "My favorite." "And thank you for coming to The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Thank you." "So, when I gave them their scroll and congratulated them on their journey, and their goodies, they all had smiles on their faces." "So, I felt very confident." "On behalf of team Tenacity, we would just like to thank you for enjoying..." "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "At Universal." "Come on in." "Come on in." "Welcome." "Please take one of our nice brochures." "Whoops." "How you doing?" "Wait." "We don't want to forget anybody." "Today we'll be judged on the execution of the 3-D display, the whole experience of The Wizarding World of Harry Potter, and, most importantly, these little "Harry Potter" Nerdlingers are gonna give us their feedback and let me know what they think," "and if they don't like it..." "First of all, I just want to take a moment to welcome all of you to our awesome display today." "We put a lot of time and effort into this." "My name is Bret Michaels, and I am an avid fan of Universal Orlando, 'cause I'll tell you what " "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter is about to be the biggest attraction ever, coming spring 2010." "It rocks, all right?" "As a rocker, I know this for a fact, right?" "If you all want to come over here for just a minute and line up." "I walked in and presented myself as average, everyday American rock-star dad who takes his girls to Universal, and then, all of a sudden, I had Curtis pop out." "Professor, would you come out?" "They're right here in front of you waiting, sir." "Yes, yes, yes, yes." "I'm coming." "Hello, there, boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen." "Have you used one of these before?" "No." "Do you want to use one of these?" "Yes." "Come with me, then, one at a time." "You first, young man." "In you go." "Big step up." "There you go." "Here, governor, we've got our first student." "Hello." "How are you?" "Good." "Nice to meet you." "What's your name?" "Farley." "Hello, Farley." "How are you?" "Welcome to Hogwarts Castle." "Here's the magic hat." "The magic hat's gonna tell you what class you belong in." "You know, this magic hat can talk all by itself." "And I wonder what class you're gonna be assigned to." "Is it Hufflepuff?" "CURTIS:" "Ooh." "Slytherin." "Ooh!" "Is it Slytherin?" "I don't know." "So, we brought one of the little boys through and sat him on his chair, and we asked him which school is he gonna have to attend." "Magic hat, which is it?" "Gryffindor." "Whoa!" "Gryffindor!" "Congratulations." "It was really cute to see these little fans, who are obviously such fanatics of " Harry Potter"..." "Gryffindor!" "Yay!" "...that even this little experience that we created for them, they were stoked." "Now, this has magical powers." "Let's see what you can do." "Move, tree." "Oh, look." "Headmaster." "Once the kids came in and I looked at that thing, I'm like, "It was crazy."" "Oh!" "Move, tree!" "Ahh!" "I've got a tree that moves." "It's Goldberg." "I mean, no kid wants to see that stuck inside a dark castle..." "I'm gonna let you use my wand just once." "Right as I thought it couldn't get any creepier..." "Now, do you think you can take control of the wand?" "...I'm like, "Oh, God." ""All of us are going to prison after this creepy castle ride."" "A little more." "So, the presentation is going quite well, but there's a bit of a problem." "I'm dying." "No more smoke." "There's so much fog in this room, it doesn't really matter what we're doing, because you can't see any of it anyway." "No more of that!" "I'm not gonna be able to breathe!" "Pleasure to meet you." "Nice to meet you, too." "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter has all kinds of amazing things." "You can take rides " "What kind of rides?" "You -- you can ride " "The headmaster knows all about the rides." "Governor." "I need the governor, please." "The governor is not the governor." "The governor is the headmaster." "Curtis is all by himself with this Universal executive, and the executive's asking him about the dragon roller coaster." "One of our best attractions, which happens to be the dragon -- the -- the dragon ride that makes it..." "simulate a roller coaster." "I could visualize that dragon roller coaster, but I can't quite remember what the name was." "The good news about that dragon ride is it doesn't breathe any fire." "Uh, in any event..." "He sat there." "I don't know what he thought about the fact that we maybe could have been a little bit more prepared on the dragon roller coaster." "Did you get to see our lovely display of merchandise?" "I did not." "Come on." "Take up what you want." "Thanks!" "BOY:" "Whoa!" "That one I think's gonna look pretty rock on you, all right?" "I like that sweatshirt." "You know what?" "It's yours." "Oh, man, this was so cool!" "There you go." "It was a disaster, honestly, but at the end, you know how we tried to win them over?" "Oh, look at this." "We tried to win them over with free candy and merchandise." "Thanks." "And every kid there just gobbled up that stuff like that." "Well, I want to take the time to thank you all very much for joining us." "Remember, spring of 2010, Universal Orlando." "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "You think this is a debauchery, that's gonna be great." "I'm positive that we have screwed this up so badly that we had to have won." "All right." "See you later, guys." "Enjoy yourself." "All right, guys." "What'd you think?" "I thought the girls were most true to the story and the actual canon of "Harry Potter,"" "but I thought the guys were more entertaining." "The boys, I feel like, when I heard the hat talk..." "Mm-hmm." "...I think I saw the guy in the tree." "I think it should have been a little more hidden, kind of." "And they said "Classes" Instead of "Houses."" "Houses." "DONNA:" "Right." "But you got the idea." "GIRL:" "Yeah." "Did you get a sense of what the entire World of Harry Potter was gonna be like at Universal?" "and the guys focused on the castle." "The guys, however, were very energetic and funny." "Good comments." "Let's take a little poll and see which one you liked better." "Coming up..." "TRUMP:" "Goldberg, how was Rod?" "It was difficult -- very difficult." "Why?" "Say it." "Say what you feel." "I will say what I feel." "Don't tell me what to do." "What's with you, Goldberg?" "Think you know what I like?" "Try to guess what I picked as this week's real Kodak Moment." "Was it Rod's sleepy journey," "Goldberg's whomping willow, or Cyndi's wacky wizard?" "You have 24 hours to choose your real Kodak Moment." "If Mr. Trump agrees with you, you'll be entered into a sweepstakes to win Kodak prizes." "So, governor, did you win?" "I never predict elections." "I'm cautiously optimistic." "I think we worked real hard." "I think we worked as a team." "So, I think, with all the challenges and the ups and downs," "I think I like what we did." "What do you think of your team?" "I thought they were great." "I thought Bret was a superstar." "Bret was " "Was he the best on the team?" "In my judgment," "Bret has the best grasp on the creative element, and he brought some real strengths to this." "TRUMP:" "Good." "So, Bret, how did the governor do as a Project Manager?" "I think he did a great job." "He was down in Florida, and he gave us all the right information, and I think he did a great job, and -- and " "Michael, what do you think?" "I think that, uh..." "Rod didn't give a lot of direction." "What he did give, he gave mostly to Bret, and he delegated without giving a vision of what he wanted." "You can't just delegate and say, "Hey, you do this"" "or "Bret, you just take over this"" "without saying, "Hey, this is how I see this thing unfolding," ""And this is what I'd like for it to look like." "Now, you handle this part, you handle that part."" "Goldberg, this task was about communication." "How do you think the team communicated through your leader?" "It " " It was difficult -- very difficult." "TRUMP:" "Why?" "Say it." "Say what you're feeling." "I will say what I'm feeling." "Don't tell me what to do, for God's sakes." "It was tough." "It was tough." "How was Rod?" "Rod was good, but was he as good as Project Managers in the past?" "No, I don't think so." "But it was the nature of the task, I think, that put him behind the eight ball." "Curtis, what do you think?" "I think he was particularly challenged because he was all the way down in Florida, and Rod's weak point is his technology." "He doesn't really use a computer, right?" "I mean, you have people that use computers, but you don't work with computers." "ROD:" "Right." "Will I get a chance to explain some of this?" "Absolutely, 100%." "So, Curtis, go ahead, though." "Finish." "So, I " " I guess a lot of the communication was between Rod and myself, and then I'd convey it back to the team, and Rod was constantly with Selita, so we didn't want to give away our strategies" "and our game play." "So, it probably would have been a big advantage if he could have text or e-mailed a bit -- a bit more fluidly, but that -- that wasn't the case." "So, we made do." "I-I respectfully disagree a little bit with my teammates." "I did communicate." "I made it clear to them in the very beginning that I was gonna ask Bret to be the Project Manager on the field while I was busy gathering information." "I would relay information to them, and I made it clear, in collaboration with my teammates, that he was gonna be the guy making the decisions on the concept and design, because as I looked carefully at the instructions of the challenge," "it was clear Selita and I were gonna be out of pocket for a lot of the early stages of it." "Well, actually, Erin was telling me that Rod had certain difficulties with elements of technology." "Yeah, that " " That's definitely what -- what I heard." "I can understand you are a little nervous about using the phone, but but, uh " "But this seemed to go a little bit beyond that." "They were very polite when I went in and checked in." "They were polite." "They weren't sniping at you behind your back." "But you couldn't e-mail, so you couldn't really say what you thought, 'cause you didn't want Selita to hear..." "ROD:" "Right." "...but then you didn't have any other way of telling them." "So, I got the feeling they felt that they were trying to fill in the gaps and weren't really sure about the vision." "So, Selita, how did you do?" "You know, like you said, this was a task that limited our communication." "So, I mean, constantly, I was texting and e-mailing." "Are you good with technology?" "I-I-I think I am." "I-I " "Pretty much all facets of the new technology?" "SELITA:" "Absolutely." "I call it the new technology, 'cause every day it changes." "It changes, absolutely." "But you're pretty updated on it." "Pretty updated." "Okay." "How was the plane?" "Magnificent." "Good plane?" "SELITA:" "Beautiful." "What were you doing on the plane?" "I was going over the dossier." "I was coming up with a guideline." "I was pretty much working, but it was a huge disadvantage because, as a team," "I think we work extremely well, especially when it comes to the creative aspects." "And what was Rod doing?" "It couldn't be that bad." "Uh-oh." "I mean, I'm " " I'm just asking sort of an innocent question, I think." "Rod was napping." "Napping." "Yes." "All right." "Maybe that's not so bad, right?" "No, it's not so bad, but I was working." "With all due respect to Selita, Winston Churchill said," ""You can take one day and make it a day and a half" ""If you make a judicious use of your time in the middle of the day."" "And, then frankly, I did have my sunglasses on, so maybe my eyes were open." "Okay." "Holly, what did you think of Selita as your Project Manager?" "I was really impressed with her ability to communicate and how she used her technological skills." "She was awesome." "So, we have two opposites, in a sense." "A little bit." "Okay." "Maria, who was your weak link?" "I just don't think that there is one on this task." "I mean, it was " "She was doing everything she could from the plane." "Sharon's doing everything she can with her sickness." "Everybody was just working their tails off." "Summer, who was your weak link?" "None." "We all " "Like, we all did good work." "We all contributed." "It was a good team effort." "So, this love-fest with the women just continues." "Yeah." "TRUMP:" "All right." "Well, okay." "So, Selita, let me ask you this " "If your team doesn't win, you're gonna have to pick two people, come back to the boardroom." "Who are they gonna be?" "Well, first of all, it's gonna be myself." "I-I can't choose any of these women." "You could say Sharon, because she had the audacity to get sick." "The audacity." "Please, no." "Okay, you could say Cyndi, because you don't like her accent." "No." "I love the accent." "You could do a million different " "Who are you going to choose?" "Who are you going to bring back to the boardroom?" "You know what?" "If we lose, then I would have to make that decision, but as of now, that decision, I can't make." "Actually, that's smart, but if you lose, you'll be fighting." "I've seen it 100 times." "Erin, what did the young "Harry Potter" Fans and the Universal executives think of the men's team, both pro and con?" "I would say, overall, they were pretty impressed." "Executives really liked the overall display." "Fans liked putting the spell on the tree, and I know Goldberg was the tree." "The tree was also one of the cons." "Both " " Both the adults and kids were a little concerned there were some inaccuracies, just about names that you would use, for example, and they could tell it was you and not the hat that was talking." "Well..." "There were some issues." "There were some issues just in terms of accuracy with the script as well as with the tree." "George, what about the women?" "Well, the women, the first thing we really have to say is that you did hit the target audience, and that's the key." "They liked the costumes, and they liked the way the wind blew." "Thought it was a great idea." "As far as the content, they didn't feel you gave enough attention to the overall concept of there being a theme park or the attractions and what have you, but that's from the executives." "This is what they're trying to sell." "Okay." "Are we ready?" "The executives thought the men did a really wonderful job... but the fact is they didn't do wonderful enough." "So, the women win." "The hospital!" "Sharon, go home and get some sleep." "Get yourself better." "Congratulations." "TRUMP:" "Congratulations." "Selita, you're going to be getting $20,000 for your charity." "And go ahead." "Specifically?" "For Shine on Sierra Leone." "Thank you very much." "Great." "Very good." "Congratulations, Selita." "Good job." "Good job." "Congratulations." "Thank you." "It was an honor." "Yeah, thank you." "Hey, congratulations." "SELITA:" "Thank you." "I appreciate it." "Bye, guys." "TRUMP:" "Have a good time." "All right, guys." "TRUMP:" "Goodbye, Cyndi." "All right." "Bye-bye." "Girl, you stuck your neck out." "You took a chance." "All right, guys." "Three in a row." "All right, wow." "Men, what's going on with you guys?" "Unfortunately, somebody will be fired." "Whoo-hoo!" "Yay!" "Again, ladies!" "Again!" "This is an amazing win because all proceeds of this win goes to my charity, Shine on Sierra Leone, and I'm ecstatic." "Congratulations." "Good job." "Thank you so very much." "Sierra Leone has the statistics of one in eight women die in childbirth." "So, any contribution to Shine on Sierra Leone, which is meant to build a hospital for women, is amazing." "We need to do a toast to the hospital." "Thank you!" "Yes!" "Cheers!" "I'm just so humbled by this win that I get to, you know, share the news with the women of the committee." "All right, here we go." "Let's watch the boys." "Are you surprised, Michael?" "No." "I'm not surprised, because I felt like we didn't get to do all of the things that we wanted to do." "We spent a lot of time at the very beginning trying to get a concept together." "Whose fault?" "I think it would have to be Rod's fault." "You might say, "Hey, well, Bret was put in charge of that,"" "but I think that Bret would have had a lot better idea of where to go and how to do this if he had some vision from the Project Manager, who had actually been there." "And you just don't think he was a great Project Manager." "No." "I don't think " "Do you like him as a person?" "I like Rod as a person, and I didn't think that I would like Rod as a person before I met him, but since I've met him " "I think a lot of people are liking Rod." "Yeah, a lot of people." "I don't know that we're seeing the real Rod." "I think Rod is a much more competitive person than what we're seeing." "I think Rod is being overly nice because, you know, you have some pretty big things to do when you finish with this, right?" "I think Rod doesn't want to get angry at you because, frankly, there may be some black jurors and they may be angry that he got angry at you." "Yeah." "That's " " That's true." "You're right." "He doesn't want to get angry at Goldberg, because I assume you're Jewish." "Are you Jewish, Goldberg?" "Mm-hmm." "'Cause otherwise you'll be the only guy with the name Goldberg that isn't." "And he doesn't want to get angry at the rock star because he wants to keep " "You know, it's a very tough " "And I don't know what we can say about Curtis." "He's like " "He's a cook." "He's, like, central casting WASP." "But, no." "But when you think about his position," "I think he's in a very tough position, and I think you're a guy with great courage, because I know people that get into trouble and they just want to go home to mommy." "I see them fold like a tent." "Mm-hmm." "Now can I make a case for why I should stay?" "Yes." "Well, I feel like " "I thought we had a winning project." "See, even that's great." "You know, he doesn't want to hear this" "He just wants to go on and win." "Okay, so why shouldn't you be fired as the Project Manager?" "Well, we're on a two-game losing streak going into this." "Now it's three." "I think we've made real progress in this last project than we did in the previous two." "I'm trying to make some adjustments within our team." "It's a delicate dynamic." "I think we did real good on this project in that we really focused." "Who uses words like, "It's a delicate dynamic"?" "A politician." "A politician, because you go," ""What the is he on about?"" "...which was the Wizardry World of Harry Potter." "That experience." "I think we captured it." "You know, it's actually The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Wizarding." "Wizarding World of Harry Potter." "Wizarding." "That's correct." "We focused on what was the most visually, uh, recognized part of that "Harry Potter" Experience, and that was the Hogworth Castle." "I'm very pleased with the decision to make Bret the Project Manager when I'm gonna be away and all I can do is gather information rather than make some of these decisions by committee, which happens in this kind of a dynamic." "To give it to him " "Curtis, how good was Bret?" "Uh, Bret was very creative, as he always is." "All of our creative energy was directed through Bret." "We gave him our ideas." "But who was running the task, Bret or Rod?" "Bret was." "And do you think that's appropriate for a Project Manager?" "No, I don't." "Well, you could also say it's great delegation." "You know, I mean, there's nothing better than somebody that knows how to delegate." "He delegated to somebody that obviously did a good job." "Goldberg, Bret seems like he was the one who was really in charge." "Did you support him?" "Absolutely." "Goldberg worked his butt off." "This guy almost passed out." "It was " "It was ridiculous, the amount of " "Did you almost pass out?" "BILL:" "Yeah." "Very close." "For a tough guy, you come close to passing out..." "Did you see what I was wearing today?" "No." "BRET:" "A tree." "When you see what I was wearing today, you'll understand." "Yeah, but you don't pass out." "Who passes out?" "Do you pass out?" "Yeah, I've " " Well, no, I never have before." "This tough, strong guy?" "What's with you, Goldberg?" "Governor, you relied so heavily on Bret." "Will you be bringing Bret back to the boardroom?" "Governor, you relied so heavily on Bret." "Will you be bringing Bret back to the boardroom?" "I will not." "Because you think he was good." "I thought he was very good." "Who will you be bringing back to the boardroom?" "This is hard, but I would bring Curtis and Michael back." "Curtis and Michael." "What do you think of that, Michael?" "I expected that." "Why?" "Well, because, uh, every time we've been in here, you've asked me, "Michael, who was the weakest player,"" "and I've said, "None of us were weak." "We were all great, but Rod was the least great,"" "and he took offense to that." "So, you think he's bringing you back because of the fact that you weren't as nice to him as some others." "Because I ranked him last, yes." "Okay." "Curtis, what do you think?" "Um, I'm disappointed that that's -- that's his choice." "I think that, you know, Rod needs to take some responsibility for how he delegated, but he has to choose two people, so..." "Bret, what do you think of the fact that you ran the task and you lost and you're not being brought back in?" "Well, first of all," "I feel sick at my stomach that -- that Curtis and Michael have to come back in." "And you don't like to lose so much." "I don't like to lose at all, but at the same time, I thought we did a fantastic job." "When he delegated me to do this and Curtis entrusted in me and Goldberg and Michael to get the job done, it makes me sick at my stomach that we lost." "I want to ask just something, 'cause it seemed that the reason that you lost to the Universal management was because some of the inconsistencies with the story, and you kept saying the wrong title, right, when you were correcting him," "You also were saying "Hogwarfs, " And it's "Hogwarts," Right?" "Hogwarts." "You used the term "Classes" Instead of "Houses."" "Yes." "It seems that the reason you didn't win was less because of the concept and more because of the actual execution." "So, I'm just trying to get a sense of who made some of those decisions that might have put it over the edge and had you lose." "Which one of all five of you did the research to see what words they use and so forth?" "ROD:" "Right." "I mean, as a lawyer, if you use the wrong word, Right." "you're in serious trouble." "But this " " Who did that?" "Well, this is where I think some of the individual players could have performed better." "No, wait a minute." "Did you delegate anybody to do the research?" "Or did any of the five figure," ""Maybe we ought to find out more about what makes 'Harry Potter' what it is?"" "There's no one that you would say was responsible for more of the specific decisions than someone else?" "No, no." "I'm responsible for a lot of the decisions, and I embrace it, and I'm not gonna throw him under the bus and bring him back here." "But why aren't you bringing him back in?" "He led the team." "He was the guy leading in your absence." "So, that's what we're confused about." "ROD:" "Because I chose him." "I believe I chose him correctly, and I think we lost because maybe there wasn't enough help for him while I was gone and enough follow-up for him when I was gone." "But he's the person that you delegated to do the task, and you lost." "I-I would be " "I would be the one to say I stood up, and I want to say this." "If he was to bring someone back in the room and I was in his shoes," "I would put my butt right back in this room." "Governor, do you want to change?" "Do you want to take Bret back instead of Michael or Curtis or whoever?" "I-I believe " "You just thought he was so good that you can't do it." "Bret led the team to a good performance, which seems to be the consensus, and " "But you lost." "We lost." "And he led the team." "Why aren't you bringing him back instead of Michael or Curtis?" "Because I don't know that Michael was as strong a player in this task as Bret or Goldberg, and, again, it's not a reflection on Michael, and this is not what Michael suggested it is," "and I believe, if you're asking me, between Goldberg and Curtis, it's a tough call, but Goldberg's willing to do everything and anything you ask him to do." "Is that true?" "ROD:" "Yes." "Who was your most difficult person, in terms of running this team?" "No one is difficult." "It's a little bit tough for me to communicate with Michael, just 'cause there's a different vision." "That's all." "Michael, should Curtis be brought back, in your opinion?" "No." "Should Bret be brought back?" "Yes." "Because of the fact that he was so involved." "Yes, because " "Should you be brought back?" "I don't think I should be brought back." "Curtis, should Bret be brought back instead of you?" "Yes, I think he should." "I think Bret took on the creative vision for the challenge, so I think that " "All right." "ROD:" "Let me say, if I could," "I think Bret is a real asset on this team." "This is the one Project Manager who won." "He manage" " TRUMP:" "I think he's a real asset, also, but he's also the person that you delegated to do the task, and you lost." "Right, but we could have won, maybe, if there was a little bit more work in the right direction, possibly, if the other two stepped up." "Some of the decisions, again " "I think Bret was a superstar." "I made the right decision there, and I don't believe we lost because of Bret." "What I think happened was " " TRUMP:" "Well, but he led the task." "Well -- and you did lose." "We did lose." "We did lose." "You lost because of somebody, and it seems to be Bret." "We lost or they won." "Okay, governor." "Do you want to change?" "You know, as a governor, you have to make decisions, Right." "Right." "and sometimes you change your mind, and that's for the good of the people." "Right." "For the good of your charity, do you want to change your mind?" "No, I do not." "All right." "Bret, Goldberg -- you go." "Michael, Curtis, Rod -- please go to the lobby." "You'll come right back." "Somebody will be fired." "Go ahead, Michael." "Tough guy." "Yeah." "You know, he's like a piece of steel." "Won't change his mind." "He stuck " " He stuck to his guns." "Puts himself at a great disadvantage." "That was a bad move." "What's that?" "Not picking Bret." "I can't." "I feel you, but " "I-I just have a responsibility to him, and I felt like he did a good job." "You got to go with what you're feeling, man." "Yeah, yeah." "Got to go with what you're feeling." "Amanda, let them in." "Gentlemen, you can go back into the boardroom now." "Sit down, please." "So, governor, you've proven that you have a lot of fight in you." "For years, you've proven that, but you've certainly proven it now." "What do you have to say?" "Well, again, I think we did a very good job, and that seems to be confirmed by what Erin says and what, uh - what the other feedback was." "I-I know we lost, but you can also say they won." "They were just a little bit better than us, and I think that, you know, the fact that we lost" "I think maybe is because some of the other component parts didn't work as well with the vision that, you know, I take responsibility for and my creative-design guy, Bret, takes responsibility for." "But why didn't you bring him back?" "Yes." "I'm not saying he would have been fired, and everyone said he did a great job, but why didn't you bring him back?" "Because if Erin and the feedback was that our project was poor," "I'd have brought him back in a second." "So, Rod, who should I fire?" "You have Michael." "You have Curtis." "Who should I fire, and why?" "I-If it's judged just based on this project alone?" "It's really based on this project alone, yes." "I would " " I would reluctantly say Curtis, only because he has a lot of skill and talent and maybe he didn't help out as much with communication as he should have." "But that's a hard thing to say, 'cause Curtis is very good and has been very " "Curtis, what do you say about that?" "The reality, Mr. Trump, is that Rod wouldn't know what we did, you know, who worked well and who didn't, because he didn't keep in touch with us very well throughout the day." "Bad communication?" "Terrible communication, actually." "No." "Every time we spoke on the phone, you said very directly, "I'm standing next to Selita." "I don't want to give any of our game away."" "You didn't know how to text." "You didn't know how to e-mail us." "Right." "I-I don't know how you can have a response." "Well, do you think Rod was a good Project Manager?" "No, I don't." "I think he was a poor Project Manager." "Michael, did Curtis fail, would you say, because of the fact that he was in charge of communications and he didn't communicate?" "No, not at all." "Curtis wasn't " "I mean, Curtis talked to him as often as he would call, and he would say, "Hey, I've got to go." ""I've got to go to a meeting." "I'm gonna call you back." "" And every time " "And he would have him on speaker, so I heard it." "Every time he talked to him, he would say," ""Selita's next to me." "I can't really talk about much."" "Curtis, do you think you failed?" "No, I don't think I failed." "I think we kept in " "But you were in charge of communicating, and you didn't communicate." "You wouldn't say that's your fault?" "Well, during the early part of the task was the creative design." "So, Bret would sign off on the creative design and tell us what it was, and then 10 minutes later, he'd describe it to someone else and describe something completely different." "Bret's way of bringing something together creatively, it's a moving target." "So, we " " We were following that, and then at any point that we spoke, we were in decent - in a decent place, but then it would continue to change." "Governor, go ahead." "Respond." "Yeah, let me - a couple things." "Number one." "The "Harry Potter" Thing's pretty self-explanatory, and if you're working for your team " "And, yeah, there's some creative tension between a creative guy like him and Bret." "My feeling was he didn't work as hard - CURTIS:" "There was no tension." "He didn't work as hard for Bret or give his best efforts for the team because he -- because Bret was the guy in charge for the creative-design stuff." "Now, again, I had veto power over decisions." "Michael, why are you smiling?" "Because every time I've come in here, you ask me a question, "Who was weakest?" "Who should - -" I give you an answer." "He wasn't giving any answers." "Everyone was great earlier." "Everyone was great all of this time, and now, all of a sudden, ass on the line, start throwing people under the bus." "No." "No." "I think Curtis is a guy with real " "So, that sounds like to me you're making things up." "All of a sudden, now Curtis didn't work as hard?" "That just doesn't make any sense to me." "No, I didn't say that." "I didn't say that." "When they don't know the product " "Well, you did actually sort of say it." "Well, I suggested that " "I think you did say it." "Not sort of, right?" "Well, I believe what I said was he had a feeling that he wasn't getting direction from the -- the deputy in charge on the ground while I was gone and never brought it to my attention," "and I constantly called before I was on planes and other things to get a sense of what I did do." "O-okay, but listen." "I just want to ask this one question." "Your "Harry Potter" Facts were not accurate." "Who did the research?" "There was not a, uh, specific direction to do the research on "Harry Potter,"" "but the inability to learn the product " "And there was an issue in the " "Was that their inability or your inability?" "I suppose I should have directed everybody else to learn the product." "I will say that's sort of an axiomatic thing that you might want to do as you understand what the challenge is." "I thought -- conveyed to them what the challenge was and what our -- what we should do, collaborated with them over the phone with the limitations, having the other Project Manager " "Yeah, but you went to Orlando to learn about "Harry Potter."" "Nobody else did." "So, wouldn't you have been the one to know the product and learn the product?" "Um, I-I feel like I knew the product." "In fact, I wrote a lot of the text." "You know, I talked about the different houses, and I was the one who said houses and classes interchangeably, 'cause I was trying to be more explicit so people can get a concept of it, but it's Slithering and it's Hufflepuff," "and it's, uh, Ravencloth and it's " "So, are you responsible?" "I think " " I think we did not win, but I think, if you were looking at this like a baseball team, we're making progress." "I believe some of our talented players " "Yeah, but you're making progress and you're running out of people." "I understand." "Right." "You know, you're doing wonderfully." "Everything's great, but you keep losing, and you're running out of people." "Right, right." "And you're the Project Manager." "Right." "I know." "And, governor, I have great respect for you." "I have great respect for your tenacity, for the fact that you just don't give up, but, Rod, you're fired." "Thank you." "TRUMP:" "Thank you." "Yeah." "Thank you very much." "Thanks for the opportunity." "Take care of yourself." "Yeah." "Appreciate it." "TRUMP:" "Good luck." "Yeah." "See you around." "Bye, George." "Thanks, Mr. Trump." "CURTIS:" "Thanks, Mr. Trump." "Okay, go ahead." "Go ahead." "See you later." "Yeah, I'll see you." "Yeah, thanks." "Appreciate it." "No hard feelings." "You're a good guy." "No." "Hell no." "Hell no." "Hey, good luck." "We wish you all the best, mate." "You keep in touch with us, okay?" "Absolutely." "CURTIS:" "All right." "Hello." "How are you, sir?" "How are you?" "How's it going?" "Good." "I feel badly for him." "He tried, but I really feel badly." "I think you made the right choice, though." "They lost 'cause they didn't have the specifics, and he was the one who ultimately was in charge of a few of those key mistakes." "He couldn't handle it." "You gave him a task that he just physically couldn't handle." "Yeah." "It's pretty sad." "Life is filled with ups and downs." "Sometimes you win, and sometimes you don't." "The real test of who you are is how you deal with it." "I was not gonna sell out Bret." "I think it would have been very disloyal and very wrong." "I'm the Project Manager." "I take full responsibility, and I got the boot."