"== TLF HALFCD TEAM ==" ""The army is here." "C'mon, hide in the house."" "Have some porridge, dear" "No" "Don't make him eat it" "We all want steamed rice, not porridge" "He's a difficult child" "It's beautiful." "Grandpa, come and see" "Is it Hong Kong?" "Grandpa, are you okay?" "I'm fine" "Have some medicine" "Give me some water" ""Water."" ""I don't want it."" "Listen, we've reached Hong Kong" "Line up to go on shore" "Be quiet and come out when I call your name" "Can you see it?" "Yes, the boat is here" "One after another, don't push" "Next." "Hurry" ""Photo?"" ""My mom told me to give you the photo on shore."" ""I'll throw you into the water if you don't."" ""Give him the photo, kid."" ""Your son has arrived in Hong Kong."" ""Is he alright?"" "What?" "You don't even have HK$100" "Okay, I'll have US$ 40 only" ""My mom said she had everything paid" "Do you want to get on the bus or not?" "What is it?" "He refuses to pay" "You said all expenses were included" "Mind your own business or get off the bus now" "Get off, kid" ""She's your guide." "Go with her."" "Yes, hurry up, kid" "Get off" "50 people of us stowed away on ship" "Only we are Vietnamese Chinese" "The others are all Vietnamese" "Can you tell us what you've gone through?" "We stowed away on ship" "We all worked in Nha Trang City" "We waited for a chance to escape from Vietnam" "We worked as usual in daytime" "It took us 9 days to get here" "We haven't slept for days and were short of rice so we had one meal every two days" "I know you left Vietnam because of political reasons" "What do you think about Vietnam's situation?" "Get the key at the reception desk" "Would we be repatriated?" "No, you can stay in Hong Kong for 3 months" "If no foreign countries receive you... within this period you can apply for immigration once" "And your expenses in Hong Kong will be covered by the United Nations" "What can I do for you, kid?" "Where are your families?" "Can you help me to find my cousin?" "You don't speak Cantonese?" "What's the problem?" "Boss" "I don't know what he wants" "I'll take care of this." "Go to work" "Did you arrive in Hong Kong tonight?" "A woman told me to come here" "You stay here for tonight" "I'll help you to find your cousin" "Have some rest" ""Brother..."" ""Heung, hold my hand."" ""Wait, Chiu, Wait for me."" ""Okay, stop getting on the boat." "Next round."" "Please wait for my wife" "Next round" "Don't worry." "They'll come back for you" "Hurry..." "Hurry, get on the ship." "Hurry" "Hurry" "Policemen, set sail" ""No, please wait for my wife."" ""Brother, how about Heung?"" ""Brother, I can't go with you."" ""Brother..."" "Johnny" "Chan Zhong, is that you?" "Looking for someone?" "No, just post an ad. for Charles" "He's looking for a copywriter" "Why are you here?" "Looking for my cousin" "So?" "Still painting for the living?" "Please, they're only daubs" "When did your cousin arrive?" "I think he just arrived last night" "People from this hotel called me this morning and said he's here." "I came immediately" "They said he stays on this floor" "Okay" "I got to go" "Come to see me some time, bye" "Bye" ""Where are your brother and sister-in-law?"" ""I don't have much money."" ""I promised your mom to take care of you."" ""Are things expensive in Hong Kong?"" ""You know the exchange rate of Hong Kong Dollar to Vietnamese Dong?"" "70 VND 1 HKD" "Here you are" "Thank you, aunt Mui, you cook them yourself" "This is aunt Mui" "Aunt Mui" "This is my cousin Ah Man." "He just arrived" "He seldom spoke Cantonese in the refugee camp so he isn't very well conversant with the language" "I see" ""When someone helps you you say 'thank you'."" ""When someone gives you something you say 'much obliged'."" ""When you offend someone, you say 'sorry'."" ""The thing we want to make a lot is 'money"'" "Okay" "Thank you" "I think...we ought to put off our wedding" "Mom, I received your letter today" "Are you still suffering from headaches?" "How are my brother and sister-in-law?" "Johnny takes very good care of me" "He's bought me a lot of things" "I haven't found a job yet" "Johnny said I should learn Cantonese first and take it step by step" "You know how I learn Cantonese?" "Johnny has a telly at home" "I watch telly everyday and repeat after the actors" "I can speak quite well now" "I think I'll look for a job soon and save up enough money to bring you all here" "Hong Kong has many people" "There are some streets where people do business at night." "It's all pretty crowded" "Mom, I'll look after myself" "Don't worry about me." "Wish you good health" "Hello?" "Speaking" "Which room?" "1204." "Okay, I'll be right there" "Looking for a seat?" "Try table number 6" "Excuse me is the seat taken?" "Ah Kei, bring me the bill..." "I saw you at the hotel before" "What hotel?" "I saw you in the corridor" "Is it Mei Hua Hotel?" "I don't remember" "You live with your family?" "I came to Hong Kong alone" "You don't know anyone in Hong Kong?" "I stay with my cousin" "YOU Hing Nin is your cousin?" "You know him?" "I met him that day" "So he was there for you" "Ah Man, may I take your order?" "I would like some fried beef noodles, please" "You're here alone." "Aren't you bored?" "I paint" "You're welcome to my studio anytime if you're interested" "Really?" "You should go to bed" "I saw you're back, so I came to see you" "It's late." "Go to bed" "Johnny, I want to find a job" "What kind of job?" "When I had dinner at aunt Mui's restaurant" "I met a painter." "He said he knows you" "What's his name?" "Chan Zhong" "Did he say anything about me?" "No, his studio needs a trainee" "I want to work for them" "Hey, would you like to go overseas?" "Where?" "The States" "My friend will help me with the application" "I will bring you with me" "I won't go" ""I won't go..."" "How come?" "I hate foreigners." "I hate them" "Why?" "I despise them." "They killed my sister" ""I won't go."" "Can I help you, kid?" "Ah Man, it's you." "Come" "You don't have to work?" "This is our studio, a small room" "Let's have a cup of coffee" "I have money, let me treat you" "Okay, I'll talk to my boss" "I thought you didn't mean it" "I really want to find a job" "I guess it's not a problem" "We've just received a new order" "The boss said we need more helpers" "But..." "I don't want to stay at home all day" "But we don't pay trainees much money" "It's okay" "The boss is a bit mean" "But you can ignore him" "I don't know anything" "You'll learn how to paint daubs real quick" "How long have you been working in the studio?" "So, you like this place?" "We come here a lot" "Sometimes, we stay for a whole day" "How long have you been in Hong Kong?" "Almost 2 years" "You came on ship?" "No, I left the army and went to Cambodia from Vietnam" "Then from Cambodia to Macau and from Macau to Hong Kong" "I was caught and repatriated the first time" "I only succeeded the second time" "Have you been a soldier?" "I was stationed in Tay Ninh" "It seems absurd when we think about it now;" "I mean, us Chinese helping Vietnamese to fight Vietnamese" "Anyway, we managed to leave that place alive" "So what?" "I make a living by painting daubs" "And your cousin Johnny..." "What about Johnny?" "Well, let's change the topic." "Coffee?" "There's the bus stop." "See you" "It's late." "What're you doing in the street?" "What's your name?" "Chan Keung" "Your I.D. card?" "I didn't bring it with me" "No?" "What're you doing in the street?" "Where do you live?" "2, Fuk Lo Tsun Road, Kowloon City" "Your profession?" "A trainee" "Thank you, sir" "Thank you" "Bye" "Ah Man, where are my paintings?" "All of them?" "My boss said the cheque should be dated today" "Okay" "Your boss is stingy" "He is always afraid that I won't pay him" "Ah Man, are you busy now?" "Yes?" "Can you help me deliver a painting to a customer?" "I'll give you 2 dollars" "Oh, it's the painting" "I nearly forgot, come in..." "Put it over there" "I'll go get you the money" "Johnny" "Yes" "I have put your money in your pocket" "Tonight let's have dinner together, okay?" "Okay" "How about..." "I want to move out" "Why?" "I can't live with Johnny" "I delivered a painting to a hotel yesterday and saw him with a foreign woman" "You all know what he does for a living" "Every one has a skeleton in his closet" "Can I stay with you?" "I will pay you the rent" "I've spoken to aunt Mui" "She said she'll pay me $200 for delivering takeaway over the weekends" "I'll save up enough money and get mom here" "Do you know, kid the war will be over soon" "I overheard it a few days ago" "The Northern Vietnam army will arrive soon" "Peace will be resumed soon" "You don't know what I am saying" "Peace" ""Do you know what peace is?"" "After years of war, people long for peace" "Thought I'd never see that day" "You know why I am a vegetarian?" "I do it for my grand children" "How old are you?" "My grandson is about your age" "He was sent to station at the riverbank" "The war lasts for more than 20 years" "Life will be better when the war is over" "I travelled to Hong Kong with my mom as a kid" "I never thought I would stay for good" "At first, she sent me money" "Outward Remittance was banned since 1975 and my dad died soon after the liberation" "My mom re-married" "I had no money and got poor grades at school" "I didn't know what to do" "They came to me when they're free and asked me if I would do it" "Well, good money and easy to make" "So I said yes" "How is it going with the immigration application?" "I don't know" "Are you sure about this?" "I want a brand new start" "Mom, don't hurry brother" "We're late" "Hurry, we're late" "Thank you" "You should be more careful" "I'm sorry." "I'll compensate for it" "I just went to the U.S. Consulate" "They said I couldn't apply for immigration as a Vietnamese refugee because I have a Hong Kong I.D. card" "So I would like to change my I.D. card" "Please" "Why did you declare you came from the mainland?" "We can sue you for perjury in respect of your sworn testimony" "But I can prove I went to school in Vietnam" "If you want to change it" "You need to provide a lot more documents to prove you are Vietnamese" "And don't forget, we can sue you" "The court may take back your I.D. card" "It could cost you" "Thank you" "Ah Mo, are you sure you want to go there?" "Yes, I've thought about it carefully" "It gets me nowhere if I keep painting daubs" "Officer Hu sent you a letter" "Have you received it?" "Yes, he agrees with me" "I go there to help him" "We have many friends there" "I think I can at least make a living" "If I didn't have a family" "I would go with you" "I want to go there to get more experience and broaden my horizon while I am still young" "Right" "Ah Man, how long have you been in Hong Kong?" "About 6 months" "You're here alone?" "Yes" "You have relatives in Hong Kong?" "No" "Have you thought about your future?" "I like painting" "Painting?" "Painting these?" "If you want to learn painting" "I think you better leave this place" "There's nothing to learn from these daubs" "I don't think it's that terrible" "We need to be realistic" "Ah Man, you leaving now?" "You, too, want to go to Paris?" "Yes" "With Mo?" "Don't be silly" "You think you can be a real painter in Paris?" "You should be glad you have daubs to paint" "Have you been there?" "No, how would I?" "I don't even have a Hong Kong I.D. card" "You have no idea what drifted life is?" "You killed anyone when stationed at Tay Ninh?" "Do you know how I left Vietnam?" "We, several other soldiers and I were stationed at a mountain" "A machine gun was firing at us" "We knew we could not escape so we lied down and pretended to be dead" "We didn't know... when we ran away" "my friend next to me was shot" "He moaned because of the pain and was shot in the head" "His brains spurted on my face" "I dared not make any noise because I have no choice" "Your cousin Johnny has no choice, too" "We escaped from Vietnam" "We all end up like this" "You're drunk." "Let's go home" "We have to go to work tomorrow" "Do you know where Taikoo Dockyard is?" "Pardon?" "Taikoo Dockyard?" "What?" "Taikoo Dockyard" "What?" "Taikoo..." "Taikoo Dockyard" "Do you know what he is saying?" "No" "Let's go." "We don't understand him anyway" "Taikoo Dockyard" "Don't move" "Don't shout for help" "Only 40 dollars and a watch" "What are you looking at?" "How dare you?" "Go to hell" "Go" "Johnny was beaten to death by his client" "It was a male client" "The next day Chan Zhong and I went to the morgue" "Johnny looked quite peaceful" "One couldn't tell he's beaten to death" "Looking at him, I wanted to cry but I didn't" "Reporters flocked around and asked about Johnny the next few days" "I said nothing" "They never catch the murderer" "Two landlords reported to the authority that Chan Zhong is an illegal immigrant" "The police came to the studio to nab him" "He was repatriated" "I remembered he told me once we have no choice most of the time" "I don't know if it's true or not" "Maybe it is" "Please" "Thank you" ""Do you know if it's true?" ""I live in Saigon."" ""My father died before I was born."" ""I have a brother and a sister-in-law."" ""My brother works as a translator."" ""I've heard, if those who had helped Americans were caught, they would be slaughtered."" ""Do you know if it's true?"" ""One Country Two Systems" policy is about to be put into practise" "== TLF HALFCD TEAM == we all must choose our directions ahead" "Facing such a major dilemma a legendary figure who were ahead of us whose choices and experience has brought some insight to us on certain levels" "This person is Hou Dejian" ""Where are you going?"" ""1980 Refugee Camp at Thai Borders"" "There's a dragon in the ancient East its name is China" "There're a bunch a people from the ancient East they are all descendants of the Dragon I grew up underneath the Dragon's feet and I'd grow up to be the Dragon's descendant" "Black eyes， black hair and yellow skin we're forever the Dragon's descendants I grew up underneath the Dragon's feet and I'd grow up to be the Dragon's descendant" "Black eyes..." ""1983 Paying tribute to ancestors in Sichuan"" "Returning home after a long time away I find that the garden is full of weeds" "How many years of lingering around?" "Oh...how many years of being pale?" "How many years of waiting?" "Oh...how many years of shivering it has been?" ""1989 June 2nd， Tiananmen"" "The four in the hunger strike include Liu Xiaobo" "Chinese professor of Beijing Normal University" "Gao Xin， former Chief Editor of the University paper of BNU and a Communist Party member" "Zhou Duo， Beijing Stone Group's executive and Hou Dejian， singer and composer" "Among them， Liu Xiaobo was one of the main advocates of the students' democratic movement" "They will go without food for 72 hours because Hou Dejian is heading to Hong Kong he will only be involved for 48 hours" "On their declaration， it says：" "The latest movement is the biggest ever democratic movement in Chinese history" ""1989 August 18th， Beijing"" "Hou Dejian was interviewed by CCTV he talked about the clearance on June 4th at Tiananmen Square" "He said he didn't see anyone being beaten to death" "(Reporter) During the process did you see anyone die?" "I didn't I didn't see anyone who got beaten to death with my own eyes no matter they were students， citizens or soldiers" "Not beaten to death， I didn't see with my own eyes" ""...the tanks， and the soldiers in the square they were going against something?"" ""Did you see anything regarding this?"" "No， I didn't see anything" "Not in the square" "Not that" "According to Hou Dejian's mother she's suspicious about the whole thing lf he's really safe， at home he would have called us" "But we haven't heard from him that's what I find strange" "And that person on TV doesn't seem like him" ""1992 March， Beijing"" "You should know that heart break is inevitable why have you fallen so deep?" "Because love is always hard to break up why focus on the gentleness?" "You should know that heart break is inevitable" "The sun is the brightest， Chairman Mao is our dearest" "Your great contributions are hard to count" "Your love is deeper than the ocean" ""Liu Shaobo"" "At the time I was in Qincheng Prison the prosecutors showed me the paper I read that after Hou Dejian walked out of the Australian Embassy he did an interview with People's Daily" "Back then I thought what Dejian did， under the circumstances he was telling the truth not one lie" "And he could face his own conscience" "Also he was responsible to history" "At the time， Dejian stood forward it had only bad influence on him because back then lots of people were saying that it was a massacre etc" "There were many shocking news many were far off the subject" "At the time， Beijing fired for certain and the whole world believed there was a massacre at Tiananmen Square bloodshed in Beijing city" "And Dejian stood forward and spoke especially after he walked out of the Australian Embassy and did the interview." "Others would think that he must have made a deal with the government" "Zhou Duo l don't think it makes sense for all those misunderstandings on Dejian I think the Chinese has many faults in this area" "They can't forgive and it wasn't really a matter of forgiveness I don't think Dejian has done anything wrong" "And even if he did， it could possibly be the government-controlled media used him to speak up and made some stories of it at the time， I thought" "Dejian has made a mistake in strategy" "He shouldn't first accepted the interview with People's Daily he should have taken interviews with foreign TV news reporters first" "The credibility of what he said would be higher if it was being broadcasted by foreign press and the damages wouldn't be as much as with the People's Daily interview" "Where were people being beaten to death?" "When were people being beaten to death?" "That's irrelevant" "We said that within this limited area inside the square from 4am onwards till the place was clear we didn't see that anyone got beaten to death during the period" "That's the truth that's what we saw at the time it didn't mean that no one's dead during the June 4th incident" "That's two different things" "The four of us were there and we spoke to the TV audience" "Though we didn't know within us" "Dejian was the first to speak and if you're saying that he should be responsible and if this has done damages of course I don't understand up to this date what exactly the damages have been done" "Even if there were I feel I should be the one to take the blame because I was the first to be locked up it was in July" "Because I was worried about Xiaobo's situation I fear that he would be tortured that's why I came up with this plan and I suggested that we should come forward to tell the truth" "And in exchange the four of us， especially Liu Xiaobo would be free from investigation I suggested it and maybe my suggestion had inspired certain departments and hence the results" "There wasn't anything we could have done only this. ln the end we organised a peaceful retreat from the square" "And this， from all viewpoints no matter what political standing you're on one must admit that it was a good thing" "Yes， it improved my situation then" "Because on my judgment papers the main reason stated for my release and free from criminal sentencing was that I had played a major role in the retreat of the students in Tiananmen Square" ""Taipei"" "There's no need for memorial services， what I mean is it's no necessary for too much probing into the good， the bad merits， mistakes， rights and wrongs" "It was almost the anniversary of June 4th" "Gao Xin， and later Zhou Duo were freed" "Us three planned on writing a letter on the eve of the anniversary pleading for the release of Liu Xiaobo and the others" "The Chinese Government couldn't take it that's why they arrested the three of us the night before the press conference" "Mr. Hou， sit， here" "Mr. Hou， do you know why we invite you here today?" "Because of the press conference" "Don't misunderstand， take a look at the documents" "Notice the term "suspicious of we're under orders to investigate" "Please sign here， Mr. Hou" "Your thumb" "Alright" "Mr. Hou， we know everything about what you've done but we'd like to give you a chance" "You know our party's policy" ""be frank and you'll be treated leniently"" "that's why I hope you cherish this chance for you to be frank" "Tell us！" "What have you done lately?" "Singing， dancing， soaking in public baths， practising qigong and tai chi quan， eating， and..." "What did you tell the foreign press?" "What I said could be open to the public I'm not afraid to let others find out" "Last time when you looked for me you told me that I have free speech" "We've always had free speech you can say whatever you want you won't get into trouble" "But there're laws stating that "no spreading of rumours"" "especially those involve and hurt the party and our leaders， those which attack socialism" "I was only telling the truth" "You lied I didn't" "You're lying with your eyes wide" "Mr. Hou， let's try to solve the problem" "Regarding the press conference" "So it's about the pres conference I was speaking in public for over half a year and you're only arresting me today" "No， no." "Don't get us wrong， Mr. Hou" "We invite you here today not because of the press conference" "But since you're here you won't be able to attend the press conference later so...what should we do?" "What do you suggest?" "Don't get us wrong， Mr. Hou" "We've always enjoyed freedom of speech in China everyone can speak publicly" "But there're certain influences of public speaking especially with a celebrity like you" "Mr. Hou， that's why..." "Cancel it if I can't attend" "Fine！" "You said it yourself we didn't force you" "The number is...." "Contact person?" "Chairman of foreign press society， Mr. Gimi" "No English， speak in Chinese later" "Hello， I'm Hou Dejian， Hou..." "De..." "Jian press conference is cancelled" "Right， my idea， cancel it I'm fine， that's all， bye" "Hey， time for food" "I said..." "I am not going to drive the mad dog (Government) more crazy l didn't say that term， the reporter wrote it I didn't say the Government is a mad dog" "That's what he meant lt's the usual rule in journalism" "Hong Kong's Mingpao printed an article of Taiwan's China Times it says， "According to Hou Dejian he has seen with his own eyes there were 1000 bodies in the hospital"" "It's a translation mistake the original was from Canada's Globe and Mail" "it said， Hou De Jian himself believed no more than 1000 people had been killed" "That's what it meant less than a thousand" "The Globe and Mail was really angry about this they especially requested Mingpao to make an amendment if you don't believe me， we can find the reporter of the Globe and Mail" "This is the proof， of you spreading rumours about the Government" "The Government's figures is 300+ l said no more than 1000" "Why didn't you say no more than 500?" "Because I don't believe in Yuan Mu's statistics" "And your statistics are based on what?" "My estimation" "Great！" "If everyone's making an estimation the country would be out of order" "Who should we listen to?" "Unless there's a public investigation on the number of deaths" "That's not our business as the police" "And it's not your business， all I can say now is that you openly discussed your own estimation without any support to the data" "Bad mouthing the government， that's fabrication lt's not." "Fabrication involves lying" "You know better what the truth is but you're making it up， that's called fabrication" "Whatever I said I thought was the truth what I believe in" "He believes in" "We don't want to believe that you would intentionally hurt the party and our country， Mr. Hou" "Maybe you didn't mean to but you created trouble for our government" "I don't think it's a very serious problem the party and our country's policy has always been very forgiving" "you're a smart man， Mr. Hou" "Our country could really use someone as talented as you are" "Think about it， Mr. Hou for example， the Asian Games is coming soon" "Cui Jian (musician) has also answered to the government's call he'll perform in a concert to raise funding for the games the theme song hasn't been decided yet" "Mr. Hou， you're a famous composer why must you be so stubborn?" "Think it over， take a step back and it will be fine" "The key is that you must "raise your understanding"" "do more in-depth self-criticism" "We need to give an account not explanations and details， think about it" "I just couldn't agree that using tanks， machine guns on the students and civilians as something great glorious， smart， and right" "Mr. Hou， have you thought seriously how many years has the party and country supported you?" "Hold on， who's supporting whom?" "I paid a total of RMB$232，800 for tax in 1986 alone I supported the Communist Party I think I've contributed to the salary of your President Jiang Zemin" "Our party， our President" "Then who are you?" "Tax payer" "Fine！" "You've got guts， you..." "We'll wait and see" "Let's wrap it up today" "Why did you throw a tantrum?" "We had a deal as long as you cooperate after the sensitive time around June 4th has passed you could go home and we could relax， but you insist..." "Sorry， I just can't let myself writing down what I don't believe in" "And I don't believe that your party， government need those self-deceit bullshit" "That's why..." "That's why I wrote in the letter that please bring me more clothes and medication if I spend more time here I might be able to "raise my understanding"" "Mr. Hou， why are you doing this?" "You're only hurting yourself by doing this I understand your good intention" "I wish there were more good cops like you" "Good cop" "Sometimes I think that cops like myself wreck things up" "What do you mean?" "It's not the first time I heard the compliment" "At first I was quite proud but then I gave it some thought" "Are people like me， being mediators trying to solve small problems and in the end let the problem gone out of hand?" "Sometimes I am not sure what I'm supposed to do" "Me neither don't know what I should do， and whether I've done right" "Chief" "They are too nice to you you've been living too comfortably here you don't want to get out?" "Listen well， it's from the highest authority， and there're no negotiations" "You've got two choices" "One， go to prison." "Second， go back to Taiwan" "And we don't want to choose the first one" "To be frank， you're very special， Mr. Hou lf you were just an ordinary citizen we could lock you up for years just by finding out he's spoken to the foreign press" "I hope that you'd suggest the second choice" "Think it over， the sentence for "counter-revolution"" "could be up to fifteen years" "Mr. Hou， freedom is priceless you shouldn't give it up that easily" "as long as you cooperate I guarantee that your friends， family will all benefit" "My friend?" "You mean..." "Liu Xiaobo?" "You're a smart man， think it over" "This is my choice， I won't blame anyone" "When you told me to write last time I've already said it， I won't hate anyone for carrying out his duties" "Thanks" "Have you been away from home long?" "Seven whole years" "Then you should go back， reunite with your folks" "You should" "Stay safe on the road" "So?" "Mr. Hou. lt's much better to be out here rather than inside， right?" "Yes， it's dead bored in the room" "That's enough..." "Great..." "Mr. Hou， come...sit， make yourself at home lt's not easy for you to be our guest" "Come...sit" "Thanks， I don't drink" "Mr. Hou， help yourself" "Let me" "Thanks" "Mr. Hou， eat more" "Let me" "Make yourself at home" "So?" "What do you think?" "It's pretty good" "He's the cook" "His main work at home is cooking" "Practise makes perfect" "Shut up" "What about his wife?" "She's really something" "How?" "His wife is doing really well she makes twice of his monthly salary in one day" "She's in business" "The most modern profession of all， private businessman" "Makes good money" "Oh， I didn't expect that" "My wife is really busy what choice do I have?" "Someone has to cook I can't let my four years-old daughter starves" "I love my daughter too" "Then we're mates！" "Cheers" "Cheers" "You cook so well because you love your daughter， very nice" "Mr. Hou， let me cook a meal for you one day" "Really?" "Great" "Deal lsn't that a match on tonight?" "West Germany vs. Holland?" "How could we forget?" "Great..." "Good one" "That was a good goal" "West Germany?" "That wasn't W. Germany's goal" "Can't believe you..." "Holland's" "Right..." "Jie Yupeng， from this day on you're Hou Dejian's entrusted representative in Beijing" "You can find us if you have any oppositions" "Ask him if you have any questions" "is there anything you need to talk to him?" "Where are the things?" "I took everything that they would allow" "Your things at home， such as the sound system should I take care of those?" "Just leave them I still have some of your cash" "Keep it， you'll need it" "What about you?" "You don't know， I have mine..." "Listen， I have some US dollars..." "You're still a nag" "Don't worry." "Everything's fine， I'll come out soon" "Let's go， Mr. Hou" "We are the Navy of the PLA stop the boat now， or we'll fire" "Freeze" "I shall return" "Listen up， boat man" "Bring this man to Taiwan ls this your plan， arrangement you talked about?" "You told me to go back to Taiwan， how can I enter?" "This is an order， go" "I have one note for you after you've gone back to Taiwan， make up a good explanation" "Get up！" "Those people who refuse to be slaves" "Get up..." "Go， go..." "On the matter that how they arranged my return to Taiwan l had many questions for example， does Taiwan welcome me?" "Would Taiwan accept my return?" ""Women Women"" ""You say， I say"" "It's quite a trial we have here today not only that we've the press and a full jury lt's human nature to be a fickle lover I guess you'd be the best who has really lived up to be one" "in our history no one could even come close" "You abandoned your wife and child seven years ago you left them irresponsibly" "And seven years later your second wife has told everyone through the media that you're a very irresponsible man I wonder whether you think that as a human being one must take certain responsibilities?" "If the society sees you as a selfish man that you lead your life like a game I want to ask what are your reactions to those?" "Do you agree by not saying anything or will you appeal?" "After June 4th many people step on the blood and flesh of others to make themselves look impressive" "Of course， you wouldn't admit that you're a chameleon a rattlesnake" "You think that mainland China is like a refugee camp but you once said that you couldn't get a taste of China when you were in Taiwan" "That's why you left for China seven years ago" "But when you were there， from our research you bought a villa， and you spent RMB$60，000 just on the decoration alone I often doubt that whether you haven't read the wuxia novels by Mr. Jin Yong" "East Wicked， West Poison， South Emperor， North Beggar I've read almost every one of those" "Then do you learn from Ouyang Feng?" "(evil)" "Mr. Hou， I feel sorry for you I wonder whether you would feel the same" "For the Chinese it happened a major incident here (in Taiwan)" "For the first time in 2000 years the Chinese don't have absolute power on a piece of her own land" "And for the first time for the Chinese with their own power， they can live relaxingly， without pressure" "And now， they don't know what to do with the freedom." "But it's great" "So， Taiwan is not only a "nouveau riche" in economics it's the same in politics and in freedom" "Too much money， too much freedom" "When you have the money but not enough culture to catch up how to spend the money" "You should know that heart break is inevitable at every time you wake up from a dream" "You shouldn't ask about some things and you shouldn't wait for some people..." "This way in， when I was a kid it's the biggest temple here" "The railway track， during the time for transporting sugar cane" "We'd run after the trains and as we caught up we'd jump up and pick up the sugar cane" "I lived inside the same house when I was born until I was a teenager" "The one at front lt's no longer our house" "I thought this wall was tall when I was little I had to stand on my toes to look at the inside" "I took a picture right here when I was this tall" "These swings， they are antiques" "Looking back， everyone left home for fulfilling their dreams and vision" "Who would want to move up and down willingly" "Looking back， people with different standings were looking in the same direction" "Talking about the past， who really wanted to do it just to be different" "Fighting to be different" "Looking back one would be angry at incomplete questions but now there're only a few that needs answers" "About where l'm from， and where l'm off to" "On 16th April， 1992" "Hou Dejian left Taiwan once again heading to New Zealand" "But he said that he'd return to Taiwan after he's finished the immigration process" "About what you have  what you don't have， about enough  not enough" "About you love or you don't， about what you should or shouldn't" "About the stars， moon and the sun and the time of the four seasons" "About the Opium War and the Alliance of the Eight Countries" "About 1840 and 1997" "And about..." "== TLF HALFCD TEAM ==" "How are you Ann?" "We have know each other for so long but never have the opportunity to sit down and chat" "While working in TVB during the 60's" "You were always kept aloof sits on the top floor we as artists, mostly sit on the lower floors" "If I have not gone up to look for the director there would be very few opportunities to meet you" "Yes, I recalled once probably in 1975" "I just started working in TVB and you were already famous at that time" "At that time a few of the new director told me" "Gigi Wong was here therefore we pretend to go to the washroom saw you conversed with others" "You had long hair, parted from the centre no makeup, don't looked like a movie star at all" "Your appearance was very natural and gave everybody a very deep impression" "That was the first time I saw you with my own eyes before that, I only watch your programs" "Although you said the impression was deep but in TVB period we never had the opportunity to work together" "There aren't many female role in the police movie even if there were, they were either killed or raped" "Finally when filming "Below the Lion Rock" at RTHK then we have the opportunity to work together" "That was probably 1978" "I wanted to film a series but have no title to it probably the story was about drug rehabilitation the story was very interesting, not telling you now" "Let's talk about how we cooperate first" "I wanted to ask Kam Kwok Leung to write the script but because he had other commitment" "No, I looked for Chan Wai Man first" "Chan Wai Man was getting married, thus looked for Kam" "We have already done some research having the story outline, involving two cases but Kam Kwok Leung was tied up we finally approached Lau Tak Lung" "The story involved three women all three are lead actresses" "I wanted to finish filming "Below the Lion Rock"" "before starting to work on movies so I wanted to look for a few artist to work together" "I worked with Dodo Cheng while filming "ICAC"" "I was in TVB when working with Chan Yuk Lin" "Seen many of her programs, I admire her the same with you, I have seen many of your programs but never had the opportunity to work with you" "The role I wanted you to act was a social worker a social worker that urge people not to take drugs" "I feel that especially with your acting capabilities one third of the script is too limited for you" "A social worker depends on her individuality and image she must look like a social worker but not too much because if too much, it would be very typical" "Remembered I told you about when moulding a character that role was called Mrs. Something should be different from your usual appearance" "You are usually with long hair and long pant resembles a lady from the 50's" "I remembered you happily said that you could put on a pair of pearl earrings and comb your hair up" "But I have some complain about you" "I don't understand why you didn't teach me acting" "I always hoped that a director would direct me" "As you said in 70's at that time I was famous those lesser qualified director dare not teach me" "I thought with the opportunity to work with you you would certainly point it out to me but you did not" "I depended on myself to act to whole script" "I felt inferior because of this" "Many people said the same thing to me" "I don't know why as a director" "I don't teach how to act" "I have been this way ever since I became a director" "Till now I still think that this is the way" "Speaking of performance, during the casting there're certain degree of pattern for example, when you found an artist you thought he knew how-to act that role or he has his own idea you let him act on his own first" "then you treat yourself as the audience then you decide where you need to modify for example, the story aspect" "I no longer feel inferior once I think of this which mean when you found the artist you would let him act on his own" "Only for new comer, if he is a seasoned artist" "I would give him some abstract for example, this social worker is quite a cautious woman but also very capable" "After listening you should know how-to act so I don't have to go into too detail" "I agree with you" "Generally speaking, RTHK and other TV station production are very different" "but my style of filming in RTHK and in TV station does not differ much except there are more time in RTHK" "As an artist, I also feel that acting in RTHK is more relax, but I still feel that the selection for "Below the Lion Rock" was rigorous" "There are certain criteria for the topic selection moreover, sometime we are entrusted to do the filming" "The series you were in, was for the drug rehab centre" "Based on tradition, you'll need to interview people and some real cases" "Unlike the official propaganda filming from the official standpoint" "I can feel that the story is indeed real" "I really went to the rehabilitation centre spending time and talking to a group of women who were drug abuser or rehabilitating from drugs" "I remembered that Wong Man was one of the actress she was there learning their facial expression to understand how her role is going to be" "The filming used real-life scenery and real cases the artists were not the real-life persons they were all paid temporary artists" "The most convenient thing in RTHK's production is that we are allowed to film in many official's locations for example, filming in the Drug rehab Centre" "Outside, it will be very difficult to find locations" "I remembered when Gigi was working with us her style in the movie and in the television series has a great difference, you told me once that she practiced shooting" "Yes that's why I said I can act in police show" "She has a very refined image but she told me she liked the feeling of aiming at things and pulling the trigger" "I remembered you said these before" "I forgotten I told you these before" "I remembered my brother used to take me hunting he would place a can in front then aimed and fired he missed fired again but still missed" "I said is it like this bang, I hit the can" "I brother was very surprised" "I think I have a very high accuracy at aiming" "It make me feel that I'm good at it that's why I fell in love with shooting" "Till now I still remember" "I forgotten to tell you" "But I knew I have such ability because the impression you gave us was very lady like a very feminine kind not one that love shooting and speeding" "I do love speeding" "In school, I was the champion in track and field dashes, high jump, long jump and shot put" "I didn't know at that time that Lau Chung Yan quit after secondary school because ours was a all girls school" "He said I remembered you the one that took the championship" "I said how did you know?" "He said I studied in Precious Blood school too" "I also knew that you were good in cooking at that time" "Yes, at that time I have to do lots of housework including cooking in the kitchen" "I am very different on the screen" "Indeed, in realistic you are very modernised more. vigour" "I remembered after my divorce" "I would put on some sexy spaghetti dress people around me felt strange and suspected that I was having a break down but that was the real me" "Director or the audience only see me on screen" "Yes" "I believe in getting in touch more during filming, I seldom chat with the artists maybe due to time constrain" "That's why I only remember you practise gun shooting" "If there is chance to film "Below the Lion Rock" again please ask me to act in another role" "I don't have to be a social work or someone's wife maybe the ringleader of a drug syndicate" "After today's conversation if you are to film again in future what role would you put me in?" "Well, let's hear it" "It will be "Internal Affairs"" "how about being a policewoman?" "I really hope that we will work together again" "How many years has it been?" "1978 till now in a few more years, it would be 30 years" "Actually RTHK production of "Below the Lion Rock"" "except for the difference in environment the production was very serious" "I really hope that my friends movies or television workers and viewers will have the chance to view these production" "When it was re-run on the television because I did not preserve a copy" "I filmed 3 or 4 series for RTHK" "When "Road" was re-run" "I acted in "Road", should be "Bridge"" "my mother goes to play mahjong every week at that time, my mother's mahjong's friends all watched the television later they told my mother your daughter's works was not as good as before" "These words were so cruel" "I was stunned without expression" "I wanted to review these series at that time but I don't have a copy" "I also don't have" "Although it was only an hour but it is very meaningful" "The production was serious" "I believed regardless of the research work because RTHK is government owned there are enough resources thus regardless of looking for location or artists everything are well coordinated thus the production is better" "Now, with the release of VCD firstly, I certainly would like to watch it again to understand why pervious works are better" "Second, is history" "Those series are able to portray the 70's what the people wear and eat" "These are very interesting, not just sentimental because that is a real record" "I feel the same way too" "That was why many people wanted to participate in the performance of "Below the Lion Rock"" "Many artists wanted to participate" "We have contracts with many organisation with artists they are all able to participate in RTHK programs but if it is other television station's programs they may not be able to participate" "But if it is RTHK production they are more lenient they are willing to participate even the pay is lower" "This is because the production is earnest the artist is willing to participate at low pay" "Because the quality of the program is good and now since they're releasing the video discs" "I hope that there will be more opportunities to introduce it to other people" "Wow!" "The production standard used to be so high" "I really feel ashamed but I am proud of it because I participated in the acting" "== TLF HALFCD TEAM ==" "I used to work in ICAC later, I joined TVB after which I joined RTHK" "TV production at all three places are identical except for a slight difference in pace fact-finding is a must for all three places" "Just like filming the Vietnamese refugees in RTHK we have to go to the refugee camp to talk to them to understand them" "After almost one month we have built a close relationship with them then we start on the script" "The script contains many real cases major parts are real cases, then we added the story" "Thus, later when I make film basically is the same manner unable to create a role out of imagination" "Must have real incident then add in a story" "Later the story line may become more but basically this is how it works" "It has it's pros and cons it is very laborious and frustrating" "For example, when filming "July Rhapsody"" "I would use whatever means to observe students attending classes" "With a bystander sitting in a corner it is natural the students don't feel comfortable" "Fortunately the teacher was very cooperative allowing me to sit at one side" "All that were trained in RTHK not only myself other directors or assist. director, at that time use the same method of observation thus became a indispensable part of creation" "When it is time for filming it is much easier to adapt" "Ideas and playwriting all started in the same manner" "While in TVB, it was the same but schedule in TVB was much tighter in RTHK, time was in abundance" "At that time, the filming team only has one room with a desk to two person but everyone were willing to go to work" "Every morning between 9 to 10 am all would go to the canteen for breakfast then back to the office to continue chatting" "Those that have to work would leave" "Everyone would come back for dinner" "There was a great period of time in this way in between discussing own production own script or others' script" "When Cheung Man Yee discovered BBC production and she think it was interesting she would asked us over for a look" "Some of the award winning advertisement that were broadcasts in the advertisement company she would take us there for a look" "It makes me feels like a movie institute" "Because it is not compulsory and it allowed for practise during practise, it feels interesting and fun very amusing" "When your thought is able to come true everybody will be very happy moreover, there is no box office pressure" "There's work, no financial pressure young with all these factor gathered together it is the best environment to cultivate creativity" "At that time, we were not aware how lucky we were just thought that it is a natural matter" "When I started working, then I know the real world" "I joined RTHK in 1978 when I return to film again, it was 1992" "It has been more than 10 years and I always wanted to make a documentary about Hou Dejian but it was hard to find investor" "At that moment a new series on "Below the Lion Rock"" "was starting I said if they allowed me to film" "Hou Dejian, I will film" "Since I have no other theme as a result, they allowed me" "We have plenty of time to do the filming" "It was originally planned as a documentary but later I discovered there was a period of time he was imprisoned for interrogation" "This section has a rich theatrical nature therefore I then attempt to fuse a documentary and drama together combining a real and fictions person together" "I was told later that the response was good but I did not pursue further" "Everyone was able to accepted that" "Hou Dejian wearing a wig to act as himself is a laughable matter" "I almost suspect if that was really him" "This was indeed a very rare opportunity because when you want to attempt something new you cannot achieve it if time is not on your side" "We spent a lot of time on editing we also spent a lot of time on filming" "We film the documentary part followed by the drama" "Without the full support of RTHK the pressure to have a realistic end product" "Actually, everybody at that time were in doubts because there were no outstanding production it was just an experiment" "Finally when we knew it will work we were very happy" "Actually I think it was 1991 that I started the preparatory work" "Towards the end of 1990, while in Japan" "I started researching about Hou Dejian" "Later RTHK managed to get a assistant to assist in the research work included television segment and listening to records" "Then when I return to Hong Kong in 1991 the first thing I did was to make a phone call to Hou Dejian" "I have met him once before in 1983, during the eve of him going to China" "Once a friend asked me out for a meal on the day before he leave Hong Kong" "I told him on the phone" "I wanted to film a documentary about him" "He was very supportive" "Then I went to Taipei" "I found that he is a very practical person" "Maybe he was familiar with filming he said he has two friends in China one is Liu Xiaobo, the other is Xiao Xie in regards to every aspect of the June 4 incident that occurred to him, they are very familiar" "Then I went to Beijing to compile the script slowly" "Actually I have done part of it before" "I will not go into details here" "He coordinate with my work very well" "When I discuss the script with him he even personally makes amendments to it" "For instance Ming Pao or other newspapers reports when we discuss it together and if we miss out anything he would later supplement it" "Therefore every word in the content were just like what others have asked him" "Since he does not get off the bed in the morning he requested to leave the residence and move to the hotel we lived in so as to allow us to do filming in the morning" "He was very supportive of us" "That time Cheung Man Yee wanted to do filming but I was working in ICAC" "Cheung Man Yee wanted to change "Below the Lion Rock"" "from a series to a drama lengthen the film from half hour to an hour and thus need additional director, including me" "The impression I got was a fast pace very little idle talk, infrequently meetings" "During the first meeting, she said that there was one requirement for our filming work to film seven play for the Immigration Dept to publicises the Immigration Department's work" "When we film the plain clothed police department often we don't film the police directly" "Instead we film how the crime were committed" "I feel we can do it this way" "I said we can film guest from different country we then allocate our own respective play set" "Someone wanted to film Thai guests and Thai brides" "I said I wanted to film Vietnamese refugees" "At that time there was a newspaper report on a big refugee boat arrived in Hong Kong by the name of "Sky Transport"" "with it carried about 1000 refugees" "The government set up an emergency refugee camp thus I went to the refugee camp everyday to get to know the refugees" "Then Hong Kong started to have Vietnamese cuisine it felt amusing in this way, I found many themes to write the script" "Because there were too many themes for example, why they wanted to come to Hong Kong how they board the ship and what happen on the ship what were their plans on arrival" "The more I asked the more materials I get" "I even asked Cheung Man Yee can we go to Chinatown to film?" "She said the cost can't cover our trip to USA" "Later I filmed the movie "Story of Woo Viet"" "which may became "Below the Lion Rock"" ""From Vietnam" part 2" "When I started on movies, I looked for many people told them I have this story and would they be interested to invest?" "They all said filming in Chinatown is too expensive thus unwilling to invest" "Until a boss told me that there's a Chinatown in Philippines too" "This would be nearer, would it be ok?" "I asked in reply, there's a Chinatown in Philippines?" "He said sure and I could go look for myself" "Finally went to Philippines's Chinatown" "We never had the least bit of sedulously nor a big sense of mission" "When we make movies the more serious the topic, the more careless we are we'll discuss where to go for supper after the shooting" "In a way we'd look like some 'thief'"