"A red blood and brilliance" "Cover the cities and the plains from Kampuchea our fatherland" "Sublime blood valorous workmen and peasants," "The blood of the combatants and fighting revolutionary," "Blood changes in hatred relentless," "In solved fight" "April 17, under the flag of the revolution," "This blood releases us from slavery..." "Make a ceremony not to revive that more." "Who wants to revive that?" "Why you say that, mom?" "With a few centimes, make a ceremony not to re-examine these men more." "Become a new man from today." "All these men were corrompus!" "I wanted to re-engage me." "I preferred to die." "You preferred to die!" "Then, say the truth!" "Over there, death was inevitable." "Rather to die in the face." "One did not let me leave." "I did not force you." "And you did not go there of your full liking." "But people do not see that." "ll is necessary to say the truth." "That they are 100, 200, it does not matter which killed which." "You killed." "Say the truth then make a ceremony, transmit that to deaths so that they find peace, that there is no more bad karma in the future." "What to make?" "The country takes this turning." ""I did not want that!"" "Ask deaths to erase the bad karma." ""Which killed which, I did not know!"" "Stop!" "I have a headache." "I am sick all the day," "I can nothing eat." "When I think of it, whether it is another or me, another son or mine... why did it do that?" "I have pity of deaths and I have pity of my son." "My son remained at the house." "ll never badly acted, never an old man insulted." "And they endoctrin¨¦ it, they made of him a hooligan who killed out of the men." "I gave a good education with my son." "When I think of the Khmer Rouges, who killed without hesitating," "what a cruelty!" "The Khmers say:" ""the bones shout, the flesh caIt."" "ll will have a bad karma there." "You, that do you think about it?" "If we had killed people... and I killed myself out of it... of our own liking, it would be the evil." "But they gave me orders." "It terrorized me with weapons and their capacity." "It is not that, the evil." "The evil, they is the heads who gave the orders." "In my heart, I was afraid of the evil." "I was afraid to die." "Today still, I am afraid of it." "Also, I make only the good, and since my childhood." "I always remained good, today still." "I do not fly, I do not make of evil to anybody." "One stopped me in Battambang, me was questioned, tortured with electricity." "After one week, they made the call." "One was about thirty." "It put to us in two trucks, irons with the feet, bound ones to the others." "I said myself: "It is finished, I do not have any more life in front of me."" "The trucks ran a long time, until the night." "I saw an electric light who penetrated in the truck." "I thought that it was Phnom Penh." "It was true." "The engine stopped," "I heard the young guards to shout of joy, wolves in front of their food." "It?" "t¨¦ the bache, lit our faces, others put shackles to us and thrown out of the truck." "After one day in the truck, one does not feel any more his body, one does not rectify oneself any more." "It questioned us on our biography." ""You come from which area?" ""Of which zone?" ""Which is a your function?"" "I answered in the order." "I intended the telephone to sound," "I thought, full with hope:" ""lci, they are useful this kind of instrument," ""we are close to the law," ""I did not make any fault." ""me will not be considered guilty, one will let me return at home."" "Then, they took fabrics to bandage us eyes, in turn, with all the prisoners." "I felt a tickling with the neck." "It passed a cord to us to the neck and drew us like that, like oxen." "Nothing was seen." "One followed oneself by listening to our steps." "It struck those which fell." "It ordered:" ""Raise the feet!"" "The feet were raised." ""you Drop!" One bent down." "When one obeyed, they laughed." "One of them shouted:" ""Of blind truths!"" "It has all laughed." "We were afraid." "It made us stop and our stringcourses?" "t¨¦." "One saw cameras." "It took to us of face and profile, and when one has all summer photographed, they gave the stringcourse, the cord with the neck, and drew us." "One followed oneself, step by step." "I felt a cold tiling." "One climbed, go after walk, while turning," "I did not know any more where I was." "When they removed the stringcourse," "I saw around me ten prisoners, long hair, livid skin of corpses, neither men, nor women." "At this time, I lost any hope." "It was finished, there would be no more return." "It is very difficult to speak." "I do not arrive there." "Nath!" "One suffered much." "Does not think of it any more." "Woman and children, I very lost." "Nath, helps me." "Does not think of it any more." "Still alive Khmer Rouges, what does one make some?" "If I had not been held In Tuol Sleng," "I would not have lost my family." "One suffered all, one does not sometimes happen to speak about it." "When I was here," "I made the wish, if hearts left me the safe life, to shave me the cranium and to make an offering." "Nath, why did this arrive thus?" "We survived." "We have an immense chance." "Those which were with us, there remains nobody." "All deaths, tens of thousands." "ll remains very little among us." "I climbed to tatons, bandaged eyes." "How to go up?" "First, second stage..." "It struck me." "How to resist, shackles with the hands?" "It is the book of your consents." "When Tith tortured you, it noted all your answers." "ll wrote here:" ""History of the activities of treason of Chum Mey."" "I read essence in this book." "You left too many fait purposely while cutting fabric." "With the seam, your group broke too many needles and burned the belts." "It is for that that you here were brought?" "It is not the truth." "It struck me so much that I did not hold out, then I answered that." "I did not hold out." "I read in it..." "All that does not have a direction." "If you had launched a grenade in the factory, put fire at the factory, that would have been logical, but to say that that, it is a treason?" "And you denounced many people." "Here names." "An about sixty... 64 people." "It struck me so extremely that I did not support it any more." "I said anything, I gave everyone." "I denounced all and sundry." "And if you had given four or five names?" "that did not go." "I do not know anything from here." "It tortured me in Battambang, almost with death, but once here, they questioned me more." "These people whom you denounced, you saw them brought here?" "I never saw them neither decrees, nor brought here." "I was held here two months only, before the fall of Phnom Penh." "Those of which I gave the name, I never saw them here." "This is why... each day, I think of them, I request the gods, if I denounced them, if they underwent the consequences of them, not to inflict to me a bad karma." "Day after day, these feelings remain in my heart." "If one thinks of it, they stopped your head, he had to give 50, 60 people, of which you." "Then they stopped you, you gave 50 or 60 of them." "If these gave each one of it 50 or 60, and so on, in one year or two, there remained nobody, all inhabitants of Kampuchea would have been enemies." "Seak Thap." "ll was stopped with me." "ll was of Ksoy." "One arrived the same day, by the same truck, but separately attached feet." "ll was with his/her brother," "I do not know the name of the brother, but they were two." "You were numerous?" "The day when I was brought, 32." "It was the night?" "To 3 H of the morning, one had left at midday." "I seek Say Sarak." "One was stopped with the co-operative, the same night." "Transferred onto the same cart, the same motor bike," "Samrong pagoda with the Kandal pagoda, then padlocked and brought in the same truck with Phnom Penh." " Since over there?" " Yes." "It was my cousin." "If I find it, I will make a copy for his mother." "She is alive?" "Yes." "When it sees me, it cries." "Here!" "It "kept me to use"." "My name..." ""Number of row: 18" ""Heng Nath, 35 years." ""new People." ""Area 4." ""Ex-painter, lived in an area under enemy control." ""Entered 7. 1 78." ""To keep to use."" "If I "had not been kept"," "I went to death." "It is the writing of Duch." "A red feature..." "Duch..." "At the time, I painted in this part." "Duch looked at me, sat in the armchair or upright behind me." "ll looked at, and it spoke to me famous painters like" "Van Gogh or Picasso." "I could only listen, I did not know them." "When I painted, sometimes," "I made the hair, there, my gesture was very soft, without brusqueness indicating a lack of respect." "Arrived there, respect was needed, light keys" "And the face had to be painted of a pink color, like a smooth and fine skin," "beautiful like skin of a young virgin." "Then it was content, it accepted the table." "Busts in platre who left the mould were sometimes split." "They were not destroyed, they had to be buried." "It would not have been good to see them breaking." "ll was necessary to bury them in the puit, behind." "I know that many painters had come to work for them." "But they all were killed." "Some remained one, two months, others four to ten days." "Their drawings did not like, they were carried out." "I survived by chance," "I survived because my painting their rained..." "Sometimes, I think of my destiny." "It came many here, they died, it remains only me." "Sometimes I think of them, that torments me." "Why them?" "Some painted better than me." "That it arrived?" "By which bad destin they could not survive?" "All killed..." "Houy!" "You aged!" "You recognize me?" "How are you?" ", it is to Him Nhiem Ein." "Essaie of you souvenir." "that does not return to me pas." "Where you live?" "A Takeo." "One was in different groupes." "One knows yourself of sight, one was in the same unit dehors." "A the interior, one did not work" "If not, you would know the noms." "You who have travaill¨¦ in Tuol Sleng, like Houy, Ein and you others," "do you regard yourselves as victims?" "I want your opinion." "This history..." "I would say... one is as those which had an accident" "I say that..." "Wait, just a word." "You regard yourselves as victims, you who worked here?" "In a word: all of the victimes." "Without exception." "If those which worked here are victims, and the prisoners like me?" "Of the victims in second." "lci, if one did not obey, one had died, one did not escape from it." "I already explained you that." "Front, one was very numerous." " 600!" " Not, not so much." "600, in S2 1 and around, all confused branches..." "I did not see of it that 200 environ." " ll had Prey Sor there..." " Let us speak from here." "For this administration." "ll had Prey Sor there, the asylum of Your 600 in tout." " Under the authority of S2 1?" " Yes, 600." "If you are victims, the prisoners carried out, it is what?" "I want to say..." "My guy were nombreux." "Why they did not die... euh, did not survive?" "It is almost all died." "On hundred, it remains thirty about it!" "All, even the gardiens died!" "You me do not believe pas." "It is for that that I was terroris¨¦." "When Its SEN came here," "I saw that that was badly, I requested from me engager." "where one tortured, one questioned, one carried out..." "I preferred mourir on the field of bataille." "the minister refused that I parte." "I knew that here, one did not escape the mort." "And the prisoners?" "It is the image of the cellule" "when one brought me of Battambang." "I were here, they took one of them, then another, then the new ones, I was I¨¤." "It took along the prisonniers I did not know o¨´." "death came all the jours." "Sometimes two died in a jour." "It left the cadavres." "It the sortaient 10, 12 hours more tard." "And one slept with the cadavre." "This one ¨¦tait between the life and the mort." "ll breathed encore." "The guard brought a plate of bubble to him to rice, rectified to do it manger." "the following day, it was mort." "When it was died, a doctor, I believe, or a guard, came to give him a blow of pied to the head, for nothing, he which had already died," ""Jerk, one leaves you vivre and you do not want!"" "Parfois, the night, the light attracted the insectes." "It fell here and I¨¤." "One took them in douce and one put them in the bouche." "If the guard surprised us," "With its shoe, it struck us the ears, three, four times of each c?" "t¨¦." "One lost almost connaissance." "the cricket arose from the bouche." "the eyes turned blue, they bled presque." "I was there a month," "I made twice my needs," "I did not have anything in the belly." "2 spoons bubble per day, which would hold?" "I thought that it was the fend." "I do not understand the reason of such a brutality," "and how you, who work here, you were accustomed to see this suffering." "At the beginning, one educated me, to reinforce... my ideological position." "Bureau S2 1 was the heart of the nation, its retaining wall." "We were the right hand of the Party, we needed a given position." "In front of an enemy, one could not hesitate, one was given in front of the enemy, that he is brother, mother or p¨¨re." "If he were here, one distinguished the enemy from the friend, there was not a hesitation." "And the children of less than one year, were against what?" "They was enemies?" "the Party of Bureau S2 1 told us:" "when the Party stops, he stops an enemy of Parti." "If one stops the husband, the woman and the children too." "Even our parents, our brothers and sisters, if the Party stops them, are the enemies of the Party." "It was necessary to know to distinguish." "What is above all, it is Angkar, the Party." "If one orders to us to destroy them, one destroys them." "You did not think at all?" "The Party, S2 1, did not stop by error." "They were ennemis." "Your capacity to reflect as a man, you had lost it." "You knew neither father any more, nor mother." "You did not believe more your parents!" "How they endoctrin¨¦ you?" "One told me that it was the enemy, I said that it was the ennemi." ""daily Report/ratio." "" 1." "Yourn Yin," ""building A, part 3, cell 1" "" Mouth the hole of the serrure." ""2." "Kieu Phin," ""building A, part 1, cell 8." ""Cries, does not know why Angkar shows it." ""3." "Building F, part 3, cell 1" ""Oun Oeun." "" A hidden a spoon, gave to Ham Hok" ""to break the cadenas." "" 4. leng Lan," ""building B, part 3, cell 1" "" When the comrades excavate it, it threatens them of blows" ""5." "Building B, Doung Davuth, plaint" ""not to eat with its faim." "" 6." "Yoeur Yath, building B, part 3, cell 4," ""its trousers with the wire of the mosquito net attach."" "" Method to write the document." ""to make Them describe scenes of their life of treason." ""the reading will reveal the secret history," ""edifying and perfectly clear, corrode inside," ""stage by stage, according to their plan." ""It is good that they write it themselves," ""with their own words." "" Procedure for the interrogatoire." ""It has two means there." ""political pressure" ""must be exerted constantly." ""torture is a complementary process." "" According to our experiments passed," ""the comrades have it pratiqu¨¦e too easily," ""he allotting more weight than to the psychological pressure." ""It is a fault which one must keep present at the spirit." ""the enemy does not acknowledge to help us." ""the consent under political pressure" ""is made on the level more bas." ""torture is inevitable." ""needs one little of It or much, it is the question."" "to seek a prisoner, I have the number of the cellule noted in my palm." "Part 39, prisoner 13." "Bring to me prisoner 13 for interrogation." "the 13, upright!" "I order to him to rise," "I bandage the eyes with a kramar to him," "I it shackle behind the back, then I unbolt the bar," "I close again the lock," "I take it by the arm and leave." "When I receive the prisoner," "I wedge his arm under mine and I take it along." ""the torture." "" torture has for but to obtain a r¨¦ponse." ""One does not practise it pas for amuser." "" ll is necessary to make suffer the prisoner," ""so that it answers vite." ""It is required of you" ""to break it, frighten him, to terrorize it." "" One does not torture pas to relieve its col¨¨re." ""ll is necessary frapper so that it is afraid," "" but in no cas it owes mourir." ""Before torture, it is necessary to examine its health," "" to examine the stick," ""not to want to go too quickly." ""If he dies, one loses the document."" "It is the list of the ennemis interrog¨¦s by the "Corrosive" group." "There, interrogative comrades." "My name, Prak Khan." "A' Nan, head of the "Corrosive" group." "ll had three groups there." ""Nice", "Hot" and "Corrosive"." "The "Nice" group had as a spot to exert the political pressure." "If it obtained the result, one wrote the document." "That which did not answer passed to the "Hot" group." "It was struck and it was tortured." "The skin of the back burst, the head was in blood." "If it answered, the document was compiled." "If not, one passed it to the "Corrosive" group." "One or two blows of stick, blood spouted out wounds not closed again yet." "Some answered, one made them write the document." "Others not, one continued "to bite"" "if that did not go, one let them mildew." "When one tortures, one has a cruel heart and sauvage." "I did not reflect pas." "I had the arrogance, the capacity on the enemy," "I did not think of his life." "I looked it like an animal." "When I raised the hand, my heart did not stop my brain, my hand or my foot did not prevent to strike." "The heart and the hand agreed" "It was that, the torture." "It was known that the prisoners who arrived at Bureau S2 1 were going to die." "once that they were in S2 1, when one had the answers, one killed them all." "When I assemble the guard, I check the lock four times." "I shake the lock and the bar of iron," "I check, all is well" "I pass to the other line." "I shake the lock and the bar, all goes bien." "I come in the medium." "In the medium, here." "This line, upright!" "raised Hands!" "I start to excavate." "I tate their pockets." "I look at everywhere." "lls should not have a feather to be able to open the veins, nor to hide bolts and screws to commit suicide in the avalant." "I return to the milieu." "Sat!" "One does not move!" "I pass to this line." "You raise!" "Upright!" "Raise the hands!" "I start to excavate," "I look at, I tate, the pockets, the size," "I tate," "I seek if they do not have a plume to open the veins, or of the bolts and the screws that they could swallow." "I come to the milieu." "Assis!" "do not move!" "I retourne." "You!" "Where is your shirt?" "Without authorization of the guard?" "You oses to remove your chemise to hang to you with?" "Give!" "I tear off it and carries it." "In the unit of the children, I was a guard of boeufs." "the head of the coop¨¦rative sent to me to the office of Ourng." "Children of all the districts were gathered there." "We were a hundred." "After one night, trucks of Chan Eczema came the trucks moved back, the children were piled up inside and they set out again." "ll had there 20 to 30 kids per truck." "On the way, some were sick and vomitted." "One arrived at Phnom Penh the night." ""It is that, Phnom Penh!" One was lost." "One went in Boeung Tchipon to raise pigs, then one has us envoy¨¦s at the technical training school of Pr¨¦k Thnoat to learn karate, to dismount a rifle, with d¨¦miner..." "With the end, the head said to us:" ""Comrades, take your businesses, one returns to the village."" "But instead of the village, that was the prison of Tuol Sleng." "One saw the interrogateurs to take along the prisoners, shackles with the hands, eyes band¨¦s." "Us, the children, one was very afraid" "One let to us live outside." "We were to raise the pigs, to plant l¨¦gumes." "When they had confidence, that we were well endoctrin¨¦s, they made us garder the prisoners with the int¨¦rieur." ""My raisons to join the revolution," ""under the colonialists, old and new," "" and the capitalists, the feudal ones, the reactionaries," ""the imperialists, who oppressed the peuple." "" It is for cela" ""that my conscience is ¨¦veill¨¦e" ""and that I join the rows of the revolution" ""to serve it, fight the American imperialism," ""to release the classes, to release the peuple."" "When I wrote my biography, one asked me:" "" Front, you had which defects?"" ""I stole some jicamas to eat," ""and of is mangos, it a defect?"" ""And if I ¨¦tais in love with a girl?"" "" that also, they are feelings of dreamer," ""put it in your biographie."" "Apr¨¨s, when I was at Bureau S2 1," "I wrote this in my bio:" ""I am faithful to the Party," ""I respect it and obeyed to him." "" I observe correctement the discipline of Angkar."" "When Angkar has me d¨¦sign¨¦ to go to stop people," "I was determined, I went there." "When it was necessary to take along the prisoners and to carry out them," "I was determined and I took them along." "To show my position towards Angkar, my fidelity in Angkar," "I have tu¨¦ so that they are convaincus that I was a child of Angkar." "I did that for survivre." "A the time, Angkar gave you ordres." "But without a decided heart, you I wrote my biography," "I made in kind that the leaders trust me." "For my reasons to rejoin the revolution," "I wrote:" ""Angkar nourished" "" my political conscience," ""and I tested pain and anger" ""against the enemy of class, feudal and capitalist."" "But my raisons to join the revolution, it is that in 1970, clicks it of Lon Nol has renvers¨¦ prince Norodom Sihanouk." "Ensuite, the prince launched a appel to our brothers and sisters, to join them to release our nation." "In my village, the revolutionary forces said:" ""In one week, we will release all the country."" "It is with cause of the call of prince Sihanouk and of my col¨¨re against the bombardments am¨¦ricains that I joined the r¨¦volution." "In 1975, after the release of the country," "I was misled." "One put to me in this place where one killed out of the men." "Once arrived here, I could not flee nowhere." "Then, to inspire confidence," "I worked very hard, even if it were a work... heavy, Even by writing my biography," "wrote they to like I." "I wrote:" ""I am an element mod¨¨le." "" I am the right hand of Parti."" "So that one makes me confiance." "I hear rumours according to which it is necessary to be reconciled, not to more keep rancour, this kind of things." "What do you think, Nath, of the idea to judge pol." "Pot and the Khmer Rouges?" "Speak according to your heart." "Reconciliation..." "they do what they want." "But until now, somebody has it says that this last act was a fault," "that the two million died of the Khmer people was a fault, somebody it was sorry?" "you heard that in the mouth of the dirigeants or the executants?" " you heard?" " No." "Me either." "Then, how to bring" "to find peace?" "How savoir that it was a crime?" "It does not say even pas that it was a fault!" "It do not have anything to be made pardonner if there were not faute." "It took along us to Tuol Sleng to torture us, that does not have a direction either, the two million morts." "is not this?" "Each one d¨¦fausse and known as that it is not coupable." "That to make?" "I do not want to me venger on these gens." "But to say to us to forget, because it is past..." "It is not like passing a pond and wetting themselves, that dries and one oublie." "It is a painful history, really painful, and even twenty years run out, it is little of temps." "that does not have "s¨¦ch¨¦"." "Until the end of my life, Nath." "As long as I live, nothing will be erased." "A 22 H, the interrogative one brings back the prisoner." "Be held there!" "I open the lock, the door." "I make it return." "Remain there!" "I open the lock, I put iron to him." "I remove the shackles." "I demolish the stringcourse, I leave." "Remain quiet." "Do not make noise." "If not, the club!" "I close the door with key." "Why you rightings?" "Park with the blows!" "Recouche, and not of noise!" "You also, you turned over!" "If I return, you will see!" "The bubble?" "I bring it." "Hold, puffs out, there has that that!" "And you, does not prick to him." "If not, station." "I close with a key." "And you, stops of you agiter." "Attention, if I return, that will be badly." "You also, you are turned over, do not sleep?" "Dors without moving, whore of your mother!" "Your needs?" "I bring the case." "the case..." "I open the door..." "Hold, make your needs." "Attention, not at side!" "that been able, there is only me which cleans!" "If you in shifts, station with the blows!" "I close with key." "You, why you stir up?" "If you me listenings not," "I return and you take coups." "You also, you rightings, you retournes." "If I return, attention!" "What, water?" "I will give you water!" "I open the lock, the door." "Hold, water." "lls draws here, there." "I strike the back." "Wait for drinking!" "You fight, then nothing!" "No discipline, whore of their mother!" "I close with key." "I said not brothel!" "You will wait for drinking!" "You also, there, you tires." "will have You nothing!" "What, of water?" "I give you with boire." "I pose the bowl." "I open the lock, the porte." "Tenez, divide this eau." "If you foutez the brothel, I take again it!" "Finished you your needs?" "I leave the case." "Attention to the club!" "I close with a key." "ll is late." "Dormez." "More bruit." "If I return, you will have troubles!" "You also, you are turned over, you move without stop." "If you do not include/understand, I will enter!" "Respectable meeting, sizeable community, sizeable camarades." "Here the report/ratio of the Duch brother addressed to the leaders, on the enemy who seized a weapon and committed suicide with." "the incident occurred at Your Hor, by a negligence of the guard, which left its rifle close to the door and went to empty the case." "A its return, the prisoner took rifle, drew on the guard, then committed suicide." "The guard had put a too long chain, it could rise and take the weapon." "Where I work, I attach iron to the table, not with long a cha?" "ne like that." "iron is attached to the table, it cannot move." "the other day, Poeuv calmed down during the guard," "I awoke it of a blow on the buttocks." "the meeting of assessment of the groups is daily." "We must be attentive in our essential mission of safety:" "to prevent the enemy from escaping, to take weapons, to break the keys, to act in the prison." "Let us be vigilant." "But you are not attentive, but negligent, the enemy could take the weapon and kill." "a bullet went in under the chin. there" "Went out up there." "It guard was alone?" "ll will not draw from it, one stopped it and taken along to the destruction." "In the report of Duch for the leaders, it writes in conclusion:" ""This defeat," "" the presence of enemies, hidden or not, among our young people," ""is due to a principal cause," "" a painful point." ""Among our frameworks of S2 1, it does not have there yet solidarity," "" not of unit." ""I am firmly determined to solve this problem by stages." ""Respectfully, Duch."" "Let us be vigilant, and given to keep the enemy successfully." "Given!" "Lives the revolutionary army of Kampuchea, very courageous and very glorious!" "Lives the glorious revolution of Kampuchea!" "Lives the new company of Kampuchea without rich person nor poor!" "Why you shout?" "You speak with the other cell?" "do not make me go up two or three times!" "that tires me!" "You listenings not the guards?" "One wrote that to you, you do not read?" ""would not be too free!"" "If you are free, why you did not die child?" "does not shout any more!" "If not I return and I strike you!" "It is largest, the most immense victory in the history of our old Kampuchea of more than two thousand years." "Here the place where are questioned the prisoners." "One puts iron at the foot, one fixes it at the table." "the paper sheets are for the consents of the prisoner, it must write them on this table." "torture consists in striking and choking in a bag." "This bag is used for choking it." "These paper..." "bait when its consents are not clear, throws interrogative them." "One tortured it, that been able, its body gangrene, it was struck to blood, one called the doctor to bandage it." ""Register of the diseases." ""Name of dead the:" ""Vong Len says Than," "" pain to the chest, exhaustion." ""Chan Dirtied," "" pain with the chest, exhaustion." ""Mtoe Butmani says Pong," "" torture." ""Sick low registers:" ""Chea Loun, pain with the chest, exhaustion." ""EM Out, dysentery, pain with the chest, exhaustion." ""Mean Sokmi says Ban Tchong, badly stomach, exhaustion." ""Toy Sopheap says Sokun, fever, exhaustion." ""Chin Den, Exhaustion." ""Nhiem Sim, pain with the chest, exhaustion." ""Kim Phoeuc Toeung, torture, wounds." ""Kieu Chieang says At, dysentery, exhaustion." ""Chum Savorn, Fever, Exhaustion." ""Heng Ean, torture." ""Chin Lorn, pain with the chest, exhaustion." ""Kim Eng, pain with the chest," "" respiratory difficulties, giddinesses." ""lnn Sreang says Phan, pain to the chest, exhaustion." ""Sar Pouth says Sar Sovann, fever, diarrhoea, exhaustion."" "A the time of pol." "Pot, I was in Phnom Penh." "Chan, the assistant of Duch, sent to me to study medicine in Your Khmao, during three months and 20 days" "One learned how to make piq?" "res on pillows, not of the men, with reconna?" "tre the bulbs of the drugs." "One manufactured vitamins C with flour, of sugar and vinegar." "After these studies, I came here, in S2 1, to look after the prisoners." "I.e. when a prisoner had been questioned, that it had the back in blood," "I washed the wounds with salted water," "I put mercurochrome and a compress." "If there were paralysis, a piq?" "re of B12 and B1." "For exhaustion, the vitamin C." "ll was necessary to look after it to facilitate a new interrogation." "Then, the care given to the prisoners were used just to give them a little force to start again to strike them?" "Yes." "a doctor looks after to cure." "You, you looked after them so that one can torture them, and after, you still looked after them?" "This report/ratio speaks about a prisoner who wrote his consents." "ll took the lamp, was sprinkled with oil and immol¨¦." "You knew that?" "I was not with the current." "You do not know." "And this one, it was also writing." "ll took the pen and inserted it in its throat." "You knew that?" "This history, yes." "But I did not look after it, I just intended some to speak." "One said it to you?" "And this." "One entrusted the prisoners to the doctors." ""Destruction for blood test."" "You are with the current?" "blood tests which I saw..." "One took blood of three or four people, one put it in a refrigerator, and I do not know where it went." "Khan, you intended to speak about that?" "Of the blood tests, I saw of it in the house of the doctors, on the way which leads to this college." "One took along there the prisoners, one put them on beds to springs, one menottait the feet and the arms of both c?" "t¨¦s of the bed, one bandaged the eyes, to them one baillonnait them, head fixed at the bed." "Then one put a pipe in each arm, with small pockets of blood," "and one pumped." "I asked for how much small pockets they took." "It me told:" "four small pockets per anybody." "ll remained nothing!" "once the finished catch, one left them against the wall." "It breathed as of the crickets, they had the counterirritated eyes." "It did not move any more?" "ll had there nothing any more but these eyes, this breath." "It did not feel anything any more." "the pits were dug not far from there." "And one there buried the corpses." "that often arrived?" "It made blood tests according to the request, when large the h?" "pitaux missed blood, once every month, every two months." "Here the goods for blood tests." "You said two or three..." "It is only one." "part "Blood test", all." "I saw a score of people." "All: "Blood test."" "the corpse is in front of this part." "ll lack a piece with the door." "It is in this building." "Looks at, the end of the tube electric wire." "One put earthenware jars full of water, to give to drinking with the prisoners and to wash the ground." "And there are barbed wires, six or seven lines, for fear the prisoners still manage to jump." "Looks at this photograph." "There, a kramar, and there, same the." "ll did not die of disease or of exhaustion, it still has flesh." "ll was tortured, looks at the traces." "When he died under torture, one photographed it, for the report/ratio with the leaders." "This prisoner had died in the course of the day, one put it in the corridor, and the night one buried it behind the prison." "ll has there a thing which I do not include/understand." "When one brought prisoners here, we were to make a document on them, question them in detail on their personal history." "A outside, in the villages and the areas, when a type tore off potatos to eat, one stopped it and one carried out it at once." "One did not make a document, not interrogation." "lci, one questioned in detail." "Why?" "I do not include/understand." "the decision was taken to kill them, but there was a calculation." "ll was necessary to question to find a fault, a culpability, and after, one killed them." "In democratic Kampuchea, the line of Angkar was to direct with justice." "When the revolution, is made one wants justice for the people." "And if somebody, is stopped one needs a reason." "Angkar has eyes everywhere, it does not make a, error it is right to stop." "It was like that!" "If I include/understand well, when the document, was compiled it was an invention." "One invented an activity of sabotage, one invented evidence, to be able to carry out an individual." "ll did not have there a court to judge it." "When the document was finished, one took it along to dead the." "Each man has his memory, each one has its history." "ll acted to dismount all their memory and to make of it an activity of treason." "the friends and the families became networks in this activity of treason." "Of the blow, one had the evidence." "One could kill the individual." "Then one stopped people of these networks and one imprisoned them." ""Experiment." ""Our failures in the past." ""Certain prisoners," "" the prohibited Party to strike them, but let us strike we them." ""the Party enjoint a pressure, one in practice another." ""Certain comrades forget" "" these recommendations of the Party." ""Of other comrades are full with sufficiency." ""It not question on the political history," "" but on depravities morals, on the women," ""of the subjects which can excite them." ""the Party known as to strike held the" "" with a stick, not with the hand." "Let us observe this interdict." ""the written answers" "" must be signed and attested" ""and be clearly dated," "" the first like the second time," ""so that the Party judge of their mental evolution."" "Nay Nan made the doctor with the h?" "pital 98." "I questioned this girl during four or five days without obtaining answer." "It said anything to know." "I insisted:" "to which organization belonged?" "Which were its relations, the head of its unit?" "During four or five days, it refused to answer." "I asked for the opinion of Duch and Chan." "It said to me to use the strong manner, to terrorize it." "I followed their opinion." "I insulted it, intimidated," "I typed on the table," "I took a branch and I struck it." "It pissed about it of fear." "When I struck it, it pissed on it." "Then, it required to make its consents." "the consents of Nay Nan," "I made him write them, into four or five days" "I obtained a page" "By reading it, I did not know about which network it was, of which party, there was nothing." "Then, I explained to him and recommended to write according to my method." "ll is necessary to describe a network, a party, an activity of sabotage," "a head of network..." "A the long one, we made a success of to compile this document." "Here the document." "A the last page, a signature," "Prak Khan, your signature, on 5. 1 77." "Here the answer of this girl." ""H¨¦n has me affected a mission:" ""to shit on rice, the beans, with c?" "t¨¦ of the WC," "" in the buildings and the houses," ""to make lose the face with the h?" "pital command," "" because it is a model h?" "pital." ""named Tchen assigned me a mission:" ""to shit in the operating theatre suite..."" "I do not include/understand." "This kind of sabotage, one believed in it?" "One could take that in account." "I saw "sabotage", I believed in it." "When I questioned it," "I gave him three objectives:" "Among the three, it chose ClA." "Then, I questioned it in this direction." "By seeking its networks, its head, its accomplices, the activity of sabotage to the h?" "pital." "This is why I could believe it." "I do not believe in a sabotage of ClA, and this girl had only 19 years, according to her biography." "It is its writing?" "It is my writing." "It had not made studies." "I did not arrive at the lira, it made faults." "Then, I wrote in his place, I corrected, a little embellished." "Where passed your education, your feelings, and those of Duch, of Chan?" "How could you take that for the truth?" "A the time, the goal was us endoctriner." "ll was necessary to believe in these sabotages, or one could not stop the enemy." "When Duch has re?" "u the document, it did not make any comment." " ll agreed?" " Yes." "Here the response of Bouth Heng, head of the group interrogations, Bureau S2 1." ""My activities of sabotage:" ""to question the women by striking so that clothing fait," "" br?" "ler the buttocks to the gangrene," ""to make them lose the head" "" so that they die without giving the answer." ""I lost two women thus." ""One came from France, the other of the regiment 310." ""I questioned Sin and Chan." ""I questioned them together." ""My activity consisted in putting them face to face." ""They were to question one the other." ""Sin lost consciousness." "I went to seek Try." ""br?" "I¨¦ We to him the buttocks, thinking that it simulated." ""One gave it in cell." ""My activity was to strike Chan." ""the bitchy girl was pregnant." "The big brother had not allowed it" ""but I struck it and it disappeared." ""Fearing that Angkar knows it," "" I laid down it on a bed of camp." ""This act aimed to prevent it from answering," "" to delay the document," ""to make similar documents to create confusion."" "I was keep it of this cell." "One of group 5 violated the woman who is with a child." "It was a beautiful woman." "ll ordered with the others held to lie down and to turn to the west, the south, north." "ll said:" ""Those which move will be carried out!"" "They are all remained quiet, none did not dare to move." "ll took to this held, this beautiful woman with the child, and it violated it." "the guards have surprised it, submitted a report/ratio, the superiors came and took along them." "the rape occurred towards 22 H." "At this time, in S2 1, it did not have of female personnel there." "We were not that, we gar?" "ons had between 13, 1 4 years and 22, 23 years." "We were in full youth, we overflowed of sexual instincts." "One did not let to us return on our premises, we did not go nowhere, we were locked up here." "When one saw arriving of held the, one joyeusement attroupait to look at them." "As interrogative the, some took along held to question in parts with the variation, they benefitted from it for their tater the centres, to grip the cheeks," "I say it in all shame, I do not hide anything." "Nay Nan was rather beautiful," "I tested for it love and pity, but at this time, it was enemy the." "ll was interdict to have feelings for the girls, and interdict to like enemy a." "My heart br?" "lait me, I were full with sexual desire," "I were furious to be able neither to make him love, nor to touch it, that irritated me," "I were full with hatred, and I struck enemy the." "I was guard in this cell for women and children." "held rose only if I authorized there them." "They sat down if I said it." "keeps It group 5 violated held the." "You, Thi, you are assembled with interrogative a to take along one held to the interrogation." "When it returned, it had been struck, it had the back in blood, it was tightened against his/her child and was rolled on the tiling." "You returned with a register and Peng." "Peng, my brother, to me did not speak." "You and Peng, you lied to held the." ""We will take along your children to give them care."" "You and Peng, you took along those which could go." "the group of Sri came to take those which could not go and took them along." "Sri and Peng took along the children to kill them behind the prison." "You and Houy, you brought a register, you came to seek held the." "You said:" ""One takes you along to look after your wounds."" "You and Houy, reduced them to you." "Houy their said:" ""I bandage you the eyes, you should not see my base."" "ll made assemble in trucks to go in Choeung Ek." "Towards 8 or 9 H of the morning," "Hor has re?" "u of Duch the register of the names." "Duch noted:" ""Peng, striking until there about it remains only dust." ""Duch, 30.5.78."" "Hor brought this register" "We saw that there were parents with their children." "Hor decided to leave them in two times." "One would take along initially the children." "Because, if one took along the children with the parents in the truck to Choeung Ek, they could shout or cry, that would not remain secret." "Towards 1 1 H, midday," "Peng made leave the children, and towards 6, 7 H of the evening, the men of Houy came to seek the parents." "Before making them assemble, one bandaged the eyes with all to them." "If the prisoners were husband and woman, one did not put them in the same truck, but in different trucks." "One feared that husband and woman speak themselves, recognizes and shouts, it would not have had more there of secrecy." "But the prisoners did not know that they would be carried out together with Choeung Ek." "Here names of prisoners stopped in family, 7 in all." "Two parents and five children." "Nhiem Malis, housewife," "Long Thin, teacher, Long Bothdara, teacher," "Long Sotheavy, coed, Long Kirivuth, student," "Long Socheat, coed, Long S¨¦reyroath, sergeant." "Here Nhiem Malis, the mother, and Long Thin, the father." "When one stopped the father, one stopped the mother, the children and grandchildren." "once, in Battambang," "I was to stop a father of family, the framework of the co-operative told me to stop woman and children." "One said "arrest by parent¨¨le"... like one says "to tear off grass with its root"." "It is that, the arrest of the interior enemy, the enemy who corrodes interior, the worm in the flesh." "One stops the new people, then the ancients, and to finish, one stops the revolutionary forces." "Revolutionary or not, one stops everyone even here, even here.." "I held the register on arrival of the prisoners." "When they arrived," "I knew that they had died." "I never thought that they were alive." "In my feelings, they had already died." "Then, I never asked for:" ""Uncles, brothers and sisters?" "Reasons of your arrest?" ""Of what are you guilty?"" "I only thought of noting their name and them bio, and of putting them in cell." "As one said:" ""Better is worth to stop by error" "" than to let the enemy corrode us interior."" "I believe that in, majority they were not guilty." "It is as for me:" "when one stopped me in Battambang, was not given me reason." "Just: "Let us gather our forces to cut canes with P?" "Sath," ""we miss forces, comrade, goes with the others."" "It was an order, I left." "A the co-operative, one stopped me." "I did not know anything." "One tortured me with electricity," "I did not have nothing to say." "ll was necessary to invent!" "I did not have anything to say, I were to invent!" "You invented a law to force people to lie, not with interrogative the like you, Khan, but to lie themselves to oneself." "We denounced we did not know who, for acts of which we did not know anything, but it was needed to have a little respite." "For interrogative also the:" "no the answer, I did not believe in it." "ll was necessary a true answer, for me or distorts." "Alors it remained nothing any more human, not?" "ll was necessary a history, for us words and sentences." "You killed any humanity." "once the document made, you let to us in cell, without anything eat, living corpse, neither man, nor animal." "And at the proper time, took them along to you." "When you killed them, they were not any more of human the." "In this time, any individual who worked here, that he wants it or not, owed absolute obedience in Angkar." "I do not want to hear that, "obedience in Angkar"." "If each one thinks only Angkar, discipline, obedience with the orders, to carry out the orders or to be killed, it is the end of our world, of justice." "ll has there no more ideals, more human conscience." "One distinguishes the human one from the animal." "the man is different from the animal, they are two distinct things, the man and the animal." "If men transform human beings into animals, or worse than of the animals, then... it is not correct... it is not correct." "If one thinks of the word "destruction", it is more than cruel, in "killing", it seems to remain a little morals, in "destruction", it does not have there more nothing human," "one becomes dust, of the particles swept by the wind." "the word kamtech, if I include/understand of them the direction, wants to say to destroy, it should not nothing remain." "the destruction, plus nothing." "In "killing", it remained... one still had a certain value," ""destruction", it is the end." "Even for the animals, one does not speak not to destroy, but to kill." "One becomes dust, carried it does not matter where, it does not remain any more any humanity." "I think that "destruction" says flesh, body, but not of the heart." "Look at, it remains all that." "ll remains all this evidence, these testimonys..." "It is, there but you to it do not pay attention" "I want to know, for example Houy, you which worked here, when you took along men, of what thought you?" "at that time, I was young," "I did not think so far." "I had hot blood, one said to me to make, I made, contribute, I made it, take along to kill, I did it." "Of the moment which I obeyed Angkar." "Today, when I considered, it was against there the law." "I am ashamed of me." "But I there considered steps." "When I think of that," "I have a headache." "Alors, when one comes to seek me for drinking and eating," "I drunk, I return and I sleep." "For me, it is not like that." "For me, each one of our meetings is very painful." "I do not want to come to these meetings, because it is not beautiful a history which we evoke." "We speak only about this past difficult to support, from which we cannot escape." "Me, I cannot." "I seek to include/understand what arrived, so that that has a direction." "It is what I want to know." "We meet, but it is not an occasion where is washed evil." "I remember well this place." "I remember the trees, this palm tree." "It is the base of Choeung Ek, where were killed the prisoners." "There, the old Chinese tomb." "One had built a hut for the brought prisoners of Tuol Sleng." "the trucks parked," "One them told:" ""afraid, you are not go in a new house."" "One left them one by a, one took the names, and one took them along... to kill them there, where the pit was already dug." "once killed, one threw them in the pit." "the second time, one still has them brought to Choeung Ek," "there was a stink," "I saw the fissured ground, the corpses puaient." "We endeavoured to kill." "Apr¨¨s, one brought others of them, that one also killed, that still puait, and that became normal, the stink was normal... one had been accustomed." "I did not think any more, I did not put any more questions," "I did not say anything, I took along them to be made kill, as fast as possible to return." "attentively Supervises to them." "Pay attention to the prisoners." "you dormant steps!" "Checks well the lock." "lci, it was very quiet." "Nobody passed nor did not circulate." "One transported the prisoners of Tuol Sleng to here." "Arrived here, in Choeung Ek, one started the power generating unit in the hut so that they do not understand anything, to make them deaf." "One moved back the truck to the hut, one went up the bache, one threw them by ground and one inserted them in the hut." "Then one made them leave one by a, one noted the names, one lied to them:" ""Fear anything, one goes in your new house."" "Duch had sat on a plait and smoked, it waited to assist with the execution at the edge of the pit." "During the execution, if it rained, one put a bache to prevent rainwater from filling the pit." "One put the prisoner at knees." "ll had the hands bound in the back, and a kramar on the eyes." "One took an iron bar and one struck by aiming at the nape of the neck." "ll fell face against ground." "With a knife, one ¨¦gorgeait it." "Then one to him removed the shackles." "If its clothes were not stained, one took them also, but not those which were stained of blood." "One kept them in a corner." "One tra?" "nait the body and one threw it in the pit." "After the execution, one checked the registers." "If it missed prisoners, one was to go up the bodies and to recount." "When the account was good, one threw them in the pit and one buried them" "by closing again well the pit." "Me, I gathered the shackles," "I put on the clothes in the truck to equip with other prisoners." "I drove the truck here." "Houy shouted:" ""Helps us to assemble the guard."" "I went to assemble the guard under the hut of the prisoners." "later, the night, it shouted:" ""Comrade, helps us!"" "Then, I took along a prisoner on the place of the execution." "that puait the corpses, that puait blood." "I made two, three return tickets," "I had badly with the legs, I am turned over to assemble the guard." "When that was finished, Houy shouted: "Comrade, quickly make!" ""Let us return before the day!"" "I precipitated in the truck, one left." "Of return to S2 1, before to rest me, I have d¨´ to wash the truck." "ll was full with excrements and of urine, that puait." "Afterwards, I could rest me." "the afternoon," "I sought water bindweeds and grasses to nourish the rabbits, the sheep and the goats." "Translation B Eisenschitz" " R. Panh" "Subtitling nice FELLOW"