"I'm going to bed." "You drink one glass of wine and you fall asleep." "It was two." "You'll get your masters, Miss. 3-day student." "Do you think it's an accident?" " Who would want to kill princess Dy?" "She's so young and so beautifull." "I'm going to sleep." "Jony, don't forget to feed kitty." "Kitty, kitty, dinner time." "Turn the music down." "Kitty, kitty, dinner's ready." "Kitty." "Kitty, kitty, dinner is ready." "Kitty, dinner's ready." "Why didn't you feed the cat, already?" "Hey, shut that damn cat off." "What is your name?" "Chainy." "Kates." "And the deceased was your sister?" "Her name is Jony." "We are twins." "Were you able to see who did this?" "Just a glimps." "It was dark." "I'm not certain." "It is my opinion as a forensic psychiatrist that John Forster is a serial psychopath." "If allowed to remain a free man in our society, he will rape ang murder again." "Will the defendant, please, rise." "We, the jury, on this day, November 9th 1998, find the defendant John Forster guilty of murder in the first degree." "Oh, I've seen that outfit before." "I can't remember when." "Last night." "Last night." "These things do return." "God, my head is still pounding like a drum." "You party hard." "Yeah, well, you don't look worse than I am." "I didn't drink as much as you." "History of my life, Sara." "Psychiatrist by day, party animal by night." "I thought you've told me you were a lawyer." "I'm not, yet." "Excuse me." "Yeah." "Hey, Jack." "It's Shelly." "I've been calling all morning." "You OK?" "I'm Ok." "What's up?" "I was worried." "You worry too much, Shelly." "What's going on?" "Frank Parks is been calling." "He needs to speak with you immediately." "Pass him through." "I had fun last night, Miss." "Pollard." "Me too." "Thanks for the wine tasting, Dr. Gramm." "Jack." "Hey, Jack, I've got Frank Parks." "Go ahead." "Hey, Frank." "Jack." "We got another one." "Oh, no." "The same?" "Every detail." "Right down to the lateral laceration." "It's the Seattle slayer again." "Where are you now?" "Look, Jack." "There's a tape." "You're gonna wanna see it." "Jack, are you still there?" "Yeah." "Meet me at my office, okay?" "Sure, Jack." "Where to?" "114 Western, please." "Quickly." "Welcome back, Seattle." "We're continuing our interview with John Forster..." "Who was convicted for the death of Janie Kay, nine years ago..." "Based on the eyewitness testimony of her twin sister, Janie Kay." "John Forster was dated to die at midnight, at Walla Walla Penitentiary." "Do you mind changing it?" "John Forster." "What's your reaction to the State..." "Thank you." "Congratulations." "For what?" "I was referring to the hottie that you left with the party last night." "She was a quite piece of ass." "Remember her name?" "Yes, I do." "Sara Pollard." "Is that a cut on your nose?" "You didn't have that before I left." "I fell out of the bed." "FBI hit here yet?" "Yeah, 2 minutes in the conference room." "Okay." "Any calls?" "New York Times, Washington times, Newsweek." "They all wanna know if you have a quote about Forster's execution." "What else is new?" "Kim Cummings called twice." "She was worried about you too." "Kim knows this procedure." "Apparently not." "She's in your office." "Jack Gramm Associates." "I put those case reports you wanna me to look at on your desk." "I thought Lauren and Leeza showed real insight and ability." "The others were pretty much working the math." "Yeah." "Don't you have Federal Agents waiting for you?" "Yeah." "I' see you in class." "I'll take them trough today's work if you run late." "Thanks." "Thank you, Kim." "Bye." "Janie Keith came by to give you a present." "Dr. Gramm." "I'm sorry." "I don't know if this is appropriate..." "I just wanted to..." "I just wanted to mark the day." "Thank you, Janie." "I'm glad that my sister Janie hasn't been forgotten." "Thank you." "For everything." "You went out of your way." "You are busy, so I'm just..." "I'm gonna get out of here." "We did good, Janie." "We did good." "All right." "Thanks." "Can I help you?" "You are one of my students?" "Hi." "Jack." "Yeah." "I'd like to introduce you to Jeremy Goober, with attorney general office." "Jeremy is in charge of the Seattle slayer task force." "Dr. Gramm, it's so good to meet you." "This is a really big honor for me." "Sorry about the..." "Oh, this is such a beautiful conference room too." "And this special agent MacTire from the FBI." "Dr. Gramm." "Pleasure." "Have a seat." "Hey, big fellow?" "Yes." "Jeremy." "Seattle slayer task force." "Well, okay." "I'm sure you have a lot of questions." "I'll do the best I can to answer them, but first I..." "No." "First I think we should all have a cookie." "These are from Janie Kay, whose sister, Janie was murdered by John Forster." "Jeremy?" "Sure, thank you." "Frank?" "No, thanks, Jack." "No?" "Mr. MacTire?" "You are a good sport, Jeremy." "A little milk maybe, what do you think?" "Shelley, we got milk, don't we?" "Bring in three glasses." "Nothing for me, Jack." "All right, make that two." "No, make it three." "Maybe you have a change of heart." "So, let's see..." "I can assume..." "That last night crime scene..." "Was very much like Forster's previous crime scene, right?" "They totally match, yeah." "What totally matches?" "I have in here..." "Halothane on the breath." "Subdued by Halothane." "Rape." "Yeah." "The body was hung up side down." "Yes." "And..." "Slashed throat." "And where this takes us?" "Looks like a copy cat." "It could be." "Maybe Could be?" "Maybe?" "Maybe." "It's a stage scene." "Maybe what?" "Maybe, and this might be far-Fetched..." "But what if the perp worked with Forster..." "And these stage scenes were intended to throw some doubts on his guilty verdict?" "Go with it." "Possibly providing him..." "With a stay of execution or even a new trial." "Goal star, Jeremy." "Big goal star." "I mean, that's exactly what I think is happening here." "No, I'm sticking with copy cat." "Of course there is another possibility." "Yeah?" "Forster is innocent." "Wrongly convicted." "No." "The task force is aware..." "That your expert opinion was critical in convicting Forster." "But then why he walked his first trial?" "Procedural error." "Why is he never been tried in any of the other five pending murderers..." "That you've attributed to him?" "You realize that it is the dude of my office to ensure that an innocent man..." "Is not executed tonight." "You do understand that?" "Look, Jack." "If you have any reconsideration of testimony..." "Or anything new you wanna lay on the table..." "Now it would be the time." "Would you say it was fair to characterize..." "Your attitude towards John Forster..." "As a personal vendetta?" "Lf we're been fair, yeah, sure." "It's a personal vendetta." "I have a personal vendetta against Ted Bundy..." "And Gacy and about 10 or 15 other serial murders..." "That are on the streets right now." "Jack, please." "That's helpful." "There is one other issue that we need to address." "Milk maid." "What's going on here?" "Do you know a woman named Dale Morris?" "Yes." "How?" "She's a student of mine." "She's just a student of yours?" "Dr. Gramm, we're federal agency here." "You don't wanna be lying here." "We had a relationship." "You've been very cryptic right now?" "He had a professional relationship, not a sexual relationship." "About a year ago her father died." "She was very troubled." "I treated her as psychiatrist." "I don't sleep with my students, Mr. Goober." "Neither I sleep with my patients." "Now what does this have to do with anything?" "Anyway." "Jack." "Dale Morris was murdered last night." "She's the third and latest victim." "When was the last time you saw Dale?" "Well..." "I saw..." "I saw her last night." "To our impossibly difficult professor." "We say thank you..." "For making our lives miserable." "The pleasure is all mine." "We're celebrating." "You're celebrating Forster's pending execution?" "No, we're celebrating his conviction, not his execution." "It was an overturn so we're happy about that." "We worked hard on this case." "We have a tape that was left on the crime scene." "We're gonna play it for you now." "This message is for Dr. Jack Gramm." "You got the wrong man." "Forster is innocent." "Please, don't hurt me anymore." "Don't hurt me anymore." "You gonna let me go, right?" "You said you'd let me go." "I've read what you want me and..." "Jack, it goes like that for about an hour, before she dies." "Why do you think she was reading you that message, Dr. Gramm?" "Dr. Gramm?" "Dr. Gramm?" "In Dr. Gramm own words..." "He analyzes a mental puzzle." "So they're no actual tangible pieces per say." "He made a guess based on what happened to Kate." "A guess based on his intuition, a personal bias, ego." "And he sold that fiction lock, stock and barrel to the jury." "What is it?" "The girl that was killed last night..." "Was Dale Morris." "Dale?" "Oh, my God." "Okay, let's see..." "We have our investigators coordinated with the FBI..." "I wanna know everything Dale Morris did on the last 24 hours." "I wanna know where she went, who she talked to." "Can you please have Dr. Gramm's car ready, please." "Thank you." "Thank you, Shelley." "For what?" "I don't know." "For everything." "I hate when you do this, Jack." "Every time you o this, I think you gonna end up dead." "Just don't ask me to marry you again." "Why not?" "We're perfect for each other." "Yeah, yeah." "Except that I'm gay and you're commitment phobe." "That's why we're perfect." "Thanks, baby." "Dr. Gramm is a world known expert in forensic psychiatry." "What is forensic psychiatry?" "I mean, is not the same profession that destroyed MacMorton's life..." "By conjuring up images of child molestation?" "None of the charges were ever proved." "And the accused, though innocent..." "Was public crucified." "Jack, look." "Look at the kite." "Jack, come here." "Yeah?" "Hello?" "Hello?" "You have 88 minutes to live." "What?" "You know how long 88 minutes can be, don't you?" "That's 11:45 am." "Who is this?" "Tic-Tac." "Who the hell is this?" "Tic-Tac." "What were you saying?" "Jack Gramm Associates." "Shelley?" "I want you to set a trap and and a trace on my cell." "What's going on?" "I want you to contact a wireless carrier..." "And have them find out who made that last phone call to me." "Jack, I could be more helpful if..." "Just do it." "Just do it." "I need it, all right?" "And call me when you get it." "John Forster was an Eagle Scout, which counts for his facility with ropes." "He also worked in a veterinary office..." "Where he had experience using the animal tranquilizer Halothane..." "Witch he's used to subdue his victims." "Halothane." "Sorry, I'm late again." "Thank you, Kim." "I see that the size of our class is dwindling once again." "It could be because you keep booting everyone." "My favorite student, Mike Stempt." "Okay." "The legal distinction between sanity and insanity rests upon what?" "Free will." "The concept of the free will." "And what is the most important thing..." "One should remember when entering a court-Room?" "That insanity it's a legal concept." "It's not a medical or psychiatric term." "But despite the fact that insanity is a legal concept..." "It doesn't mean that someone is not sick." "Yes, Lauren." "Of all the serial killers that I've interviewed and studied..." "Witch include our boy Bundy, Dahmer, Gacy..." "None of them was legally insane." "This is not saying that they were normal." "I could argue that they couldn't help themselves..." "Precisely because of their mental disorder." "Well, if you wanna argue, Mike..." "School of law is across campus." "Come on, Dr. Gramm." "It's ingenuous to pretend that our presentations are not arguments." "We create a narrative of the crime and the criminal." "Narrative is based on facts." "Based on logic." "We don't walk into a court-Room and advocate set scenes, do we?" "We don't take sides." "We check our views at the door." "You mean you want us to pretend we don't have an opinion?" "We have opinions, Lauren, but we just keep them to ourselves." "Share them with your dog, if you have to." "Not with your parrot, because it talks back." "It is that kind of logic that's gonna get you in a law school across campus." "I've been there." "I've done that." "Well, my condolences." "So, where is..." "Dale Morris?" "She's absent." "I don't see her." "That's her first." "I didn't take her for a quitter." "Anyone who has her phone number, please, contact me after class." "Okay." "Excuse me." "Shelley." "Tick-Tack, doc." "You have 83 minutes to live, Dr. Gramm." "Tick-Tack, doc." "So where was I?" "Bundy versus Forster." "What?" "Bundy versus Forster." "Thank you, Lauren." "You're welcome." "What we're gonna explore today is the similarities and dissimilarities..." "Say, from Ted Bundy's motives, let's compared them to John Forster's." "Dr. Gramm, your phone is ringing." "Jack, are you there?" "Shelley." "What's going on?" "The call was made from a cell phone." "One of those you buy and pay minutes for it." "Registered to whom?" "Look, I know you're in class, but..." "Yes, who is registered to it?" "A Kate Gramm." "Jack, it's a common name." "It doesn't have to be your sister." "It's just a coincidence." "It's not a coincidence." "It's not a coincidence." "Jack, I'm loosing you." "Shelley?" "Goddamn it." "Shelley?" "Have you found out who my phone is registered to by now?" "Poor Kate." "If it was Kate, you'd like to call her?" "I'm gonna find you, you here that, you son-Of-A-Bitch?" "You're barking up the wrong tree on this one." "I'm gonna find you." "She suffered for such a long time." "You remember how long, don't you?" "You still feel guilty about her?" "You feel guilty about falsifying the evidence?" "For lying under oath?" "Tic-Tac, doc." "You have 79 minutes to live." "Do you find this funny, Albert?" "Who were you calling on your phone?" "Let me see your phone." "I was just..." "Let me see that goddamn it phone." "I was just checking the Mariners score." "You were what?" "I was checking the Mariners score." "Okay, what is the score?" "The score." "What's the damn score?" "It's 3 x 1 Mariners." "B1." "Oh, my God, I can't believe it." "What does it mean?" "What's the problem?" "Look." "What?" "What's going on here?" "It says that Dale Morris was murdered last night." "Is that true, Dr. Gramm?" "Yeah." "You knew it?" "You knew it and you didn't tell us?" "You knew and asked for Dale's number?" "Is it the slayer?" "It could be." "It could be?" "Well, the police haven't released any information yet." "Are we all in danger?" "I can't believe you didn't tell us." "Dr. Gramm?" "Lynn Johnson." "Someone just called a bomb threat." "Everyone is to evacuate the building immediately." "Thank you." "Come on." "Grab your stuff." "I'll get your papers of presentation, Tom." "I got the slides, Kim." "All students, faculty and staff must evacuate the building." "I repeat." "Everyone must evacuate the building." "All students, faculty and staff must evacuate the building." "I repeat." "Everyone must evacuate the building." "Please, remain calm e do not run." "Proceed to the door to the end of the campus." "I repeat." "We must evacuate the building." "Jack?" "What are you doing?" "Get going." "All students, faculty and staff must evacuate the building." "What was that on the screen?" "Some student playing a joke or something." "You of all people know that it breaks school laws to proceed by a threat..." "You need to report this to the campus security immediately." "Carol." "I get threat like this, three or four times a year." "Your incredible arrogance will slap the shit of you, Jack." "I wish you'd disclosure your true feelings about me..." "Before we became such good friends." "Maybe you should stop hiding behind your assessments about other people..." "And start assessing yourself..." "Cause you need to get over your past and go on with your life..." "Cause what you're living isn't one." "It is not what you tell your patients?" "Gum?" "Thank you." "I'll call campus security and let them know you're on your way." "Where did you go last night?" "When you left the bar." "Home." "Were you alone?" "Screw you." "Roger." "We're on it." "Yeah." "The press got a hold of Dale's name." "It's all over the news." "Yeah, I know that." "And Forster's attorney is going to the court and try a stay." "A stay?" "On what grounds?" "They're claiming that these..." "Murders prove that the real killer have never been brought to justice." "Nonsense." "They're just trying to buy time." "They're desperate." "They're also claiming that you falsify testimony and concealed evidences." "Well, it's all loose." "Goddamn it." "Who is that guy?" "What about Dale Morris?" "Did we find anymore of her?" "She was murdered in her apartment..." "Between the hours of two and six am." "Any sign of force entry?" "No." "Does Forster still have that group visiting him on prison?" "He's like a goddamn rock star." "Website and all." "I want you to pull a background check on all my students..." "And get back to me." "Damn." "Oh, no." "Okay." "Kim?" "What are you doing here?" "I'm getting my car, it's parked here..." "Like it's every day I come to the campus." "That was really horrible." "Just horrible what you did in class..." "It's was little low for you." "I was looking for potential suspects." "That's what I was doing." "What did you do after you left the party last night?" "I didn't end up drunk in bed with an strange like you." "You left the party with Dale Morris, the girl that was murdered, didn't you?" "Yes, I did." "So what did you do?" "Where did you go?" "You're not seriously considering..." "Where did you go?" "We went to the Hickory Stick." "We had a drink, two drinks." "And then?" "And then I went home alone." "You have anyone that can verify that?" "No." "No-One can verify it." "Come on." "I've been your teaching assistant for two years." "I'm your friend." "I'm here to help you, if you let me." "Follow me." "Follow me." "Who did that?" "What does that mean?" "According to a anonymous phone call..." "That means I have 72 minutes left to live." "Can I borrow your cell phone?" "I've broke mine." "These are my car keys." "Can you take that around front and meet me there in ten minutes?" "I have to go to the campus security." "Okay." "Call me on my Blackberry if you run late." "Okay." "Shelley." "You gonna have to reach me on Kim's cell phone." "What happened to yours?" "I broke it." "What?" "You have her number, don't you?" "Yeah, I do." "Listen, just forward all the calls, okay, to Kim's cell." "Please, thanks." "Dr. Gramm." "Hey, Mike." "Everyone is pretty upset about Dale." "Yeah, well, that's understandable." "Considering the circumstances." "I have a question about John Forster." "Yeah?" "What?" "Well, I've been going through the trial transcripts in Kate's history..." "Why would you do that?" "To understand your process better." "How you come to your conclusions." "And?" "What?" "Is it possible that Forster is innocent?" "No." "You won't even consider the possibility?" "No." "You're completely convinced the scenario you put together is the only one?" "First of all, I didn't put together a scenario." "I recreated the crime scene." "Second..." "I didn't convict Forster." "A jury did." "But the evidence was circumstantial." "No DNA, no murder weapon." "Nothing directly linking Forster to the crime, except your narrative..." "And Janie Kay's testimony." "What's your point?" "Just that your testimony was very convincing." "That's my job." "To be convincing." "I thought it was to be right." "Help." "Somebody, please." "Help." "Help." "Lauren." "Dr. Gramm." "What happened to you?" "He's wearing a leather jacket." "He's out there." "I bit his hand, it's bleeding." "If his hand is bloody, you can get him." "You're okay?" "Go get him now." "I'm fine." "Watch my car." "It's a police action." "There's been an assault." "I wanna see your hands." "Back off." "Roll the window down." "No." "I'm a forensic psychiatric with the FBI." "Here." "Okay?" "Open the window now." "Yeah." "See?" "Well, roll down the window..." "And let me see your hands." "Let me see your hands." "If you have nothing to hide, you can show me." "Look, I'm trying to go home." "What?" "Okay, sorry." "Excuse me." "There's been an assault." "I wanna see your hand." "Okay." "Be cool now." "There's been an assault." "I gotta check your hands." "I'm a forensic psychiatric with the FBI." "Sorry." "I couldn't find him." "Here." "This is stupid." "I'm so stupid." "How I could be so weak?" "Such a wimp." "It's not your fault." "Come on." "I can't believe I let him get away like that." "I should've fought back more." "Stop beating yourself up?" "What exactly happened?" "He came from behind." "He put this rag over my mouth and I bit his hand." "The rag had an odor?" "Something sweet..." "It's Halothane, right?" "Yeah." "He's the one." "Probably." "I let Dale's murderer get away." "Stop beating yourself up and tell me something." "Tell me something." "Could you identify him if you saw him again?" "He came from behind, I didn't see him." "Let's go to the campus security, you'll tell the everything." "Hello." "This woman has just been attacked." "Are you okay?" "I think so." "What's your name?" "Lauren Douglas." "And who are you?" "Jack Gramm." "The famous Dr. Jack Gramm?" "Then Johnson Fonsen have you be coming in." "Is there someone to interview Miss Douglas now, please?" "Jimmy?" "Yeah." "You wanna check out this girl?" "Wait a minute." "Right this way." "What's going on here?" "The person who attacked her may still be on the campus." "What the hell you guys doing?" "We got all these guys out on the bomb squad." "Excuse me for one moment." "It's a little crazy around here." "Jimmy, get off the phone and interview Miss." "Douglas, please." "I'll be right there." "Why won't you seat here?" "Okay, you okay?" "Jack Gramm Associates." "Shelley?" "Get Frank..." "And pass him through when you get him." "Okay." "Okay, thank you." "I don't want you going back to your apartment until the locks are changed." "I don't have anywhere else to go." "After you talk to the officer here..." "Go back to my office." "Shelley will find a place to stay." "Okay." "Come on." "It's gonna be all right." "Sorry for all the troubles I caused." "Miss." "Douglas." "Right this way." "Right in here." "I'm sorry." "Yeah?" "I left a word for Frank." "Okay." "There's been another incident." "The Forster's case it's your thing, right?" "Wrong, it's not my thing." "I saw your testimony on Court TV." "Yeah, right?" "Fill those out." "Yeah, I follow the big crime cases." "They fascinate me." "When Dr. Jack Gramm takes the stand." "You come up with things I didn't think off." "This here, this is just a job until..." "Until you pass the police's exam." "See?" "How did you know that?" "Just a guess." "That's the thing about you." "You know how to put two plus two and you make it four." "Or five." "There are times that you know." "I'm not gonna be a campus cop to a bunch of snob rich kids." "Especially these rich bitches..." "My car is been analyzed." "The window was smashed." "There's a number on the body." "Look into it." "Dr. Gramm?" "Dr. Gramm?" "This is Johnny D'Franco, from campus security." "Can you get me Lynn Johnson?" "Jack Gramm Associates." "Shelley?" "Did you find Frank?" "No, not yet." "What the hell is going on?" "Well, I received a threaten phone call saying I have 88 minutes to live." "11:45h this morning, and my time is up." "Pull out my risk assessment file." "Anybody rating 'e' and above..." "I want you to cross reference against Forster." "And when you find Frank..." "Ask him if Sara Pollard or any of my students ever visit Forster in prison." "Sara Pollard?" "She's the girl I met at the party last night." "Call Wong Lee..." "And have him make a list of all the phone numbers..." "Forster called on the last 72 hours." "Where should fax the list?" "My apartment." "And run a check on Kim." "Kim?" "Yeah, just do it, okay?" "Hello." "Jack." "Damn it." "The car is out front." "Drive Squaid." "Good." "You're okay?" "You look a little freaked out." "Yeah." "You have..." "A battery for your phone?" "Yeah, I do." "What the hell is this?" "What are you doing?" "Goddamn it, what is this?" "What are you doing with a gun in your purse?" "Jesus, why don't you just announce to the world?" "I don't think they've heard you in English Department." "Why the gun, Kim?" "For protection." "Where did you get it?" "I have a permit." "My dad is a cop." "Why you need a gun?" "I don't." "My dad thinks I do." "Why?" "I have a crazy ex boyfriend, okay, Jack?" "Oh." "Jesus." "God." "Yeah, I really know how to pick one or what?" "The judge said if he threats anyone he goes back to jail." "Back to jail?" "What jail?" "Prison, actually." "Walla Walla." "That's where Forster is." "Come on, let's go." "Special Agent Parks." "Frank, it's Jack." "I'm at the university campus." "We got a problem here." "Someone attacked one of my students and tried to knock her out with Halothane." "That's the Seattle slayer." "I know, hold on." "Give me a second." "Yeah." "There's a security guard on this campus, his name is D'Franco." "I don't like him." "He's suspicious." "I want you to take him in for questioning, okay?" "Also get a warrant and search his place." "Jesus Christ, Jack." "You know I can't just get a warrant without sufficient grounds." "Just get a warrant, Frank, come on." "Do you think he is the slayer?" "To link Forster on the outside?" "It's possible." "Listen, I checked the names that Shelley, of the students." "And there's no record of Lauren Douglas, Kim Cummings or Sara Pollard..." "But you gonna love this." "Mike Stempt visit Forster four times over the last six weeks." "Mike Stempt." "What was his reason?" "Research." "He had written permission." "No, no, no." "I didn't give him any permission." "Written or otherwise." "Well, it's your signature, Jack." "I got a copy right here." "Hold on." "That..." "Hold on a second." "That ex boyfriend of yours." "What is his name?" "Guy LaForge." "Run a check on a parole named Guy LaForge." "He served time at Walla Walla with Forster." "And I'll call you back when I get to my apartment." "All right." "Do you think that Frank is working with Forster?" "Someone is." "I got you Johnson." "Yeah." "They've found a backpack in your lecture hall." "What?" "With a bomb in it?" "No." "A photo, dynamite, and a time with a note addressed to you." "What did it say?" "Tic-Tac." "What does it mean, Jack?" "I call you back." "You are okay?" "Yeah." "What the hell was that?" "Probably somebody trying to scare us." "Who do you think would do something like that?" "Does your boyfriend drive a motorcycle?" "Yeah." "Except he's not my boyfriend anymore." "Yeah." "How does it feel to know you won't live through another night?" "56 minutes." "Tic-Tac, doc." "Let's go." "Guy LaForge." "He isn't a boyfriend, is he?" "The only thing that got me out of Texas was my books marks." "And when I left for college, I had that, but not much else." "So I tried to fit in." "I drank too much." "Thought too little." "And I met Guy." "And he was this English..." "Working class rock star wanna be." "And I fell for him." "And I married him..." "When I graduated." "He didn't take to well to my aspirations for higher education." "In fact he didn't really want me to leave the house." "And when I disobeyed..." "He got filthy drunk and he beat me." "That's when he got arrested and I divorced him." "I've been trying to make up for lost time ever since." "You know, Forster is trying to kill me." "Forster is in prison." "Yeah, I know." "He's got someone on the outside trying to..." "To do the job." "He's gonna kill me." "If I don't get him first." "Whoever is working with Forster must be close to you." "A friend even." "I don't have many friends." "That's a plus." "It's a real pleasure to look at everyone you know as your would be murderer." "Paranoia is a normal state of mind, huh?" "Where is Errol?" "I don't know." "I'm a temp." "The agency sent me." "Dr. Gramm?" "There's a package for you." "How did you know my name?" "I don't." "It was a question." "Yeah." "There's no returning address on this?" "No." "Who delivered it?" "A carrier." "But there was another person here at the same time..." "looking for you." "Who?" "What was his name?" "No, I didn't get it." "When he walked in I was on the phone with the plumber." "He said he would be right back." "Okay." "You wanna me pull the surveillance tapes?" "That shouldn't take more than an hour to get someone up here with the keys." "I don't have an hour." "No?" "Hey, you know, he was also wearing leathers." "He had a motorcycle helmet." "That's Guy." "He was here." "If he comes back, don't send him up to my apartment." "Yeah." "Hi, Dr. Gramm." "Hi, Eva." "How did Guy know we're going to be here?" "How does even know where you live?" "Oh, Walther P99." "That would blow a hole through anything." "What?" "I grew up around guns." "Maybe he didn't know I was gonna be here, maybe that's why he showed up." "I'll verify where he went after the party last night." "There's a Lauren Douglas to see you." "Should I send her up?" "Okay, send her up." "He got that right, didn't he?" "Hey, what's that?" "This?" "It's a chemical detector." "It sniffs out vapors." "Custom agencies are using it." "And?" "It's not a bomb." "That's good." "Yeah." "Hi." "Hi." "Are you okay?" "Yeah." "I'm better, thank you." "What do you have?" "I went to see Shelley like you said." "She tried to fax you over some papers, but the machine was down." "So I said I'd bring the risk assessment profiles over myself." "I didn't know you had company." "Dale told me how good you're with her when her dad died." "She was so grateful." "Dr. Gramm?" "Yeah?" "If there's anything I can do to help you find Dale's murderer..." "Will you let me know?" "Of course, yes." "Thank you." "Can I call you a cab or something?" "No, Mike is gonna give me a ride." "Okay." "Thanks for these..." "Bye." "All those people have threatened you?" "Well, you know, it comes with the territory." "How come you never mention that in class?" "How many students end up going into this field anyway?" "Not very many with you booting all of them." "Yeah." "Can I ask you a personal question?" "No." "How come you never got married?" "I mean, you're a pretty good prospect." "You obviously make a shit load of money." "Why would I get married?" "I'm a target for any nut with a grudge." "I can't afford emotional attachments." "Yeah, but don't you want kids?" "Don't you want a family?" "I'm too old for kids." "You're too young for me, Kim." "If you want me to leave, Jack, all you've got to do is say it and I'm gone." "No, I don't want you to leave." "I need you, Kim." "You are smart and you are important to me." "Really, you are." "Okay." "Yeah." "Jack, it's Shelley." "What the hell happened to you?" "Where have you been" "Making calls for you, four lines simultaneously." "The fax is down." "I know, Lauren Douglas came over and brought some papers with her." "Jack, you better turn on MS-NBC." "Why?" "Forster got a judge to grant his request for an interview." "He's on, live." "This is gonna heat things up" "When looking for a home..." "A real estate agent is really important in you life." "You need someone..." "Shelley." "Listen to me." "I want you to send some of the boys to my apartment, all right?" "There may be someone down at my lobby in biker leathers when they get there." "Okay?" "You got a name?" "Yes, his name is Guy LaForge." "Put a photo on the FBI wire, okay?" "If you are not granted another stay of the execution..." "Are you prepared to die?" "You want me to call the police?" "No, no, let Frank handle it." "He'll know what to do." "As prepared as any man can be to pay for something he didn't do." "Listen." "You didn't message over a package to my apartment, did you?" "No." "There is a lot of people out there that believe in your innocence." "And I'm grateful." "You know anyone that might have?" "No." "I'm grateful for their prayers." "Everything goes to your office." "And support." "What about Pollard." "Find anything on her?" "You didn't actually paid her, did you, Jack?" "Pay her, what do you mean?" "She works for a escort service." "Escort service?" "You didn't know?" "No, I didn't know." "What?" "She told me she was a lawyer." "A student lawyer." "What are your thoughts this time?" "Well, Stephanie, that's one thing I don't have a lot of..." "You got a number for her?" "Yeah, a phone number and the address." "I know the address." "Let me have the number." "If Dr. Gramm was with us right now, what would you say to him?" "555-1352." "He knows that I didn't do this." "There's only one..." "Thanks." "Other person in this world who knows I've been framed." "That it was a set up." "That I'm totally innocent." "And that would be the forensic psychiatric Dr. Jack Gramm." "I guess what I'd say to Jack Gramm..." "I'd say, 'Why me'?" "I understand that you've suffered a great loss with your sister." "I feel your pain, Dr. Gramm." "Pick it up, damn it." "But that doesn't exonerate you..." "From false accusing me of things that you know I did not, could not have done." "Pick up, Sara." "If I can be convicted of this voodoo forensic science..." "Think about it..." "Who is safe?" "Shelley?" "Shelley?" "I want you to get MS-NBC." "I want to talk to that son-Of-Bitch." "I would be the last." "Jack, I really don't think that's a good idea." "It's a good idea." "Just get them and when you get them call me back, OK?" "But I find hard to believe that Dr. Jack Gramm can be out there..." "Psycho battling innocent people into the death chamber." "Who is the murder now, Jack?" "Yeah?" "Who is the murder now?" "Jack?" "We got D'Franco in custody." "I got the warrant." "The guys are on the way over to his place." "Did he say anything about Forster?" "A quite bit, but nothing useful." "What about Guy LaForge?" "He hasn't checked in with his parole office in six weeks." "Well, he was at my apartment building less than an hour ago." "And he said he's coming back." "Listen, Frank." "I got a call a little while ago..." "Saying I have 88 minutes to live." "Jesus, Jack." "Why 88 minutes?" "I don't know." "You have any idea who this caller is?" "You better find Guy LaForge before he gets here, okay?" "Listen, let me call you back." "Jack?" "Shit." "Mom." "Dad." "Jack." "There's someone in here." "And he wants to talk to you." "Where are you?" "Please, come home quickly." "I'm here with a man." "It is not what you want me to say..." "Jack, come here now." "Help me." "Help me." "Jack, what is that?" "My sister." "Oh, my God." "That's horrible." "Who would send that to you?" "There's only two copies of this tape in the world." "One is..." "locked up in custody of NYPD." "And the other..." "Is in a restricted access room..." "In my office file cabinet..." "With the highest security measures." "So you're thinking it was stolen." "Of course it was stolen." "You think I stole it?" "You think I stole it?" "You left the bar yesterday night with Dale." "One of the last people to see her alive." "Maybe the last." "Jack, you think I stole the tape and killed Dale?" "Have you lost your mind?" "I don't have clearance to your restricted access room." "Why Guy LaForge was at the bar last night?" "He was trying to protect me." "From what?" "From you." "From me?" "He knows about me?" "Yes." "What does he know about me?" "He knows I have a silly girlish crush on you." "Jack." "Hold on a second." "I just got an email from Mike Stempt, okay?" "He saw Guy at Darby's Club last night." "When Mike left at 3 am, Guy was still sitting there..." "And they've bounced a beer until 6 am." "So there's no way that Guy could have killed Dale Morris." "Yeah?" "Did you listen to the tape, Dr. Gramm?" "Why did you leave the little Katie all alone?" "Why, Dr. Gramm?" "She'd still be alive today if you hadn't left her all alone to die." "Now it's your turn." "In a glaze of glory." "Tic-Tac, doc." "You have 37 minutes." "Yeah?" "Hey, Jack, I got MS-NBC on the line." "I'll patch you through the prison." "You're sure you wanna do this?" "Shelley." "There's been a breach in my place, in my most secure area." "Did you ever give anyone clearance to go into my secure files?" "Jack, what are you saying?" "Did you ever let an unauthorized person..." "Into my secure files area?" "No, never." "To anyone." "Ever." "Okay." "Now put me through the MS-NBC." "Frank?" "Yeah." "Yeah, turn on the MSN-BC." "They've granted Forster a live interview." "I can't, Jack, I'm in the car." "It's all right." "They also will cast." "You just turn on 750 AM." "I'm phoning in." "Wait a second." "You think is such a good idea?" "With all the court actions?" "I think he's behind everything." "I think he's behind the phone calls, threats..." "I'm gonna try to get inside his head." "Make him crack." "Okay?" "You wanna stay on the line, please?" "Dr. Gramm?" "Yeah." "You're on the air." "I've been told that we have Dr. Gramm joining us by phone." "Dr. Gramm, are you there?" "I'm here." "Have you been watching the interview?" "Is that what you call it?" "What would you call it?" "I don't know, I don't call it an interview." "I call it an entertainment." "I call it a performance, maybe." "You must have got something to say or you wouldn't have called in." "Oh, yeah, I think it's very interesting that Forster talks about forgiveness." "I just want him to know that his victims have not forgiven him." "Look, you've lied under oath, Dr. Gramm, and you know it." "This is not about me." "This about the women you've raped..." "And tortured and murdered." "Women like Janie Kay." "I have nothing to do with her death..." "And you know it." "Nothing to do with her death?" "There was an eyewitness, a twin sister who identified you." "She was at the scene and identified you." "She was drugged and beaten so badly..." "She said that she couldn't be sure, but you..." "You bereaved her until she said it was me." "Interesting that you didn't say that you're innocent." "I had nothing to do with the death..." "No, I don't." "I know you're convicted." "You're convicted by a jury." "You were trialed and convicted, that's what I know." "Trial?" "That wasn't a trial, that was an inquisition." "And the jury believed your lies." "You had to cause pain, suffer and death, so you could feel alive." "Wait a second." "Pain and suffer is something that you, forensics, know how to inflict." "Even your idol, Ted Bundy, ultimately, identified his victims." "How about, man, identify your victims?" "How about?" "The bodies of Terry Hines, Alicia Smith, Samantha Green." "Where are they, man?" "Come on, where are they?" "Give these people's families closure, man." "Give them closure." "You're on national television now." "Millions of people are watching you." "Come on." "How about your colleague in London, in the Clark case?" "Putting in an innocent mother for murdering her baby?" "Well done." "Well done, doctor." "You must be so proud of being part of an elite fortunate." "Fortunately for her, her conviction was overturned..." "When the doctor's testimony turned out to be an absurd." "Quack, quack, Dr. Gramm?" "You now what?" "Why don't you take a good look at your watch?" "A good look." "Now imagine what it'd be like to be minutes away from your own death." "To hear the ticking of a clock..." "And know that your time on earth is drying to a close." "Thank you." "There's another package for you, Dr. Gramm." "Should I send it up?" "This has just got in." "A three judge panel of the Nine Circuit has just granted John Forster..." "A stay of the execution." "What?" "Are you serious?" "You hear that, Frank?" "Yeah, I heard." "Forster got the stay." "I got him going, didn't I?" "No cigar." "Why did you send me on a wild goose chase, Jack?" "What do you mean, wild goose chase?" "D'Franco is not a serial killer, he's a serial groupie." "So he's a groupie so what?" "What's the big deal?" "I've just got a call from Jeremy Guber from attorney general office." "You are wanted for questioning on the murder of Dale Morris." "What?" "What are you talking about?" "They've found physical evidence at her apartment that implicates you, Jack." "What evidence?" "Jack..." "You know I can't say." "What you mean, you can't say?" "What does that mean?" "Frank?" "There's someone to see you..." "Mister, you can't go up there." "You told the doorman to don't let anyone up." "It's all right, don't worry." "Don't worry, no-One is getting in." "The state attorney general has just announced that his appealing..." "Is taken to the State Supreme Court immediately." "Jack." "There's smoke." "We'll keep you informed with further developments." "There's smoke here too." "It's your boyfriend." "Let Kim go." "Let her go now and no-One will get hurt." "Guy, I'm fine." "There's no problem here." "The building is on fire." "That's a problem." "He's got a gun." "Okay." "Listen to me." "I know this man and I know he's not gonna hurt me again." "You have to trust me, Jack." "Please, open the door." "Do it quickly." "There's smoke up here." "Kim." "Guy, I'm coming out." "We can calm things down, okay?" "Guy, look at me." "I'm fine." "There's no problem here." "What are you doing with him?" "I'm okay." "There's no problem." "Guy has been shot." "No." "On the roof there's a fire escape." "Okay?" "When I say 'go', follow me." "Okay." "Do you think he is dead?" "He doesn't look good." "We should go back up there." "I gotta go back there and help him." "No." "You can't go up there." "Man." "Yeah?" "Jack, I need to talk to you." "I need two minutes to clarify something?" "Shelley, I can't talk now." "I'll talk to you when I get to Sara Pollard apartment." "Miss." "Lewinsky." "Are you okay?" "I'm just a little bit dizzy." "Come." "Because I didn't see a device with a timer." "Get the bomb squad, this is the second one." "Go." "Get her some oxygen." "All right." "We got her, sir." "Let's go outside." "You gonna be all right." "Jack, I don't see the shooter, do you?" "Jack." "He's got a gun." "Where?" "Where the hell is he?" "Where?" "Jack." "Get down." "Kim." "Keep moving." "Kim, where are you?" "Go, go, go." "Move back." "Are you okay?" "Yeah, I'm gonna live." "Here, let's go." "Where are we going?" "To Sara Pollard house." "She's the girl I was with last night." "That's funny." "It worked in the garage." "Why did you do that?" "I don't know." "I had a feeling..." "Are you okay?" "What next?" "I don't know." "Okay, let's get out of here." "Okay." "Is that your cab?" "Yeah." "Okay." "I give you a hundred bucks..." "You let me drive it." "I'm just going across town." "A hundred bucks?" "A hundred bucks plus tip." "How is that?" "All right." "I can not believe that." "Guy is dead." "He is." "He is dead." "Shit." "You have not to say, huh?" "It's just another day in the life of Jack Gramm." "Was I actually fooling myself into thinking I can have a relationship with you?" "Now, I've enough common sense to figure this out." "I mean, what was I thinking?" "Okay." "Can you wait outside the cab for a minute?" "You bet." "Thanks." "You asked me about my kid sister." "Okay." "It was a long time ago." "She was staying at my apartment in New York City." "She was 12, I was 28." "And I was late for a meeting." "Very important meeting." "A meeting that was gonna change my life." "It was gonna make me into somebody important." "Make all my dreams come true, so..." "I went to this meeting on my dissertation." "And I left her there by herself." "I could have taken her with me." "I could have left her with friends." "I could have postpone the meeting." "But I chose not to, because I was in a hurry." "Anyway, I left her there alone." "At that time I was working in a case..." "And this guy had strangled six women." "We were very close to nail him." "He was upset and he wanted to get back at me." "So he came to my apartment, only I wasn't there." "And that time I wasn't concerned with security." "I was careless so..." "He broke the door down..." "And he went in." "And did..." "Things..." "To my baby sister." "Katheryn, was her name." "Katy." "He did things that you wouldn't do to an animal..." "That was bred for slaughter." "Anyway..." "When they caught him..." "He laughed..." "And said..." "It took him 88 minutes..." "It took him 88 minutes to have my sister dead." "Jack..." "He is in prison now." "Coming up for his fifth parole hearing." "I left New York." "Left all that behind me and came here, to Seattle." "You know, it seemed the perfect place." "It's on the far off corner..." "Of the continent of USA." "To see if I had a second hanged in me." "Whoever stole that tape..." "Knows the meaning of 88 minutes." "Is that enough?" "Let's go." "If Sara is not home, we don't have a search warrant." "Well, we don't need a search warrant." "We're not gonna arrest anybody." "We're just breaking in." "Not a good sign." "You can't say I've never give you anything." "This looks familiar." "When did you take it?" "I guess it doesn't matter, does it?" "It just might." "Okay, check out that way." "Okay." "Oh, Jesus." "What is it?" "Oh, my God." "Oh, my God." "Calm, Kim." "Calm, Kim." "Oh, my God." "She is dead." "It's okay." "Who would do that?" "Why?" "Calm, Kim." "Who could torture someone like that?" "Just, breathe." "Breathe, breathe." "Okay." "Breathe." "Oh, God." "Control." "Take control." "Okay." "I'm in control." "Are you in control?" "Yeah." "Okay, good." "Let me show you something." "Okay." "That is my signature." "Forged." "Credit card receipt." "This whole place is filled with my DNA." "The police is gonna come here." "They gonna know I was with Sara." "They gonna think that I killed her." "Your phone." "Yeah." "Answer, Jack." "Yeah." "Jack?" "Carol?" "Carol?" "Did you here the tape with your sister's 88 minutes of suffering?" "I sent it to your apartment." "What are you saying, Carol?" "What is this?" "The Porsche was a close call." "I called Frank and told him you murdered Sara after you killed Dale." "Think you are so smart..." "Invincible and unbeatable." "John Forster is giving you a death sentence and he is about to be free." "How ironic." "You've got 18 minutes left." "Meet me at your office alone." "Tic-Tac." "What is it?" "It's Carol." "She wants to meet me at the university, at my office." "Let's go." "Come on." "Okay." "Shelley?" "What the hell are you doing in here?" "I need to talk to you." "That poor girl." "That poor... poor girl." "It was me." "Sit, sit." "It was me." "Shelley, sit down." "I broke the security protocol." "Why?" "Well, about six weeks ago..." "I had a drink in your office with a student of yours." "A couple of drinks, actually." "And she made an advance, and..." "It was late, but the office was jammed with people working still." "And when we woke up she left." "She didn't have a briefcase..." "She didn't have anything she could put the tape in, but..." "But somebody else must have." "Somebody else did, while we're sleeping." "Who was this girl?" "What's her name?" "It was Lauren." "Lauren Douglas." "And here is the..." "It's a picture from the security cameras." "This is the person that must have rifle through my files..." "And found the combination to your vault and took the tape." "That's not a person, Shelly." "It's a hat and a coat." "And this the photo ID of everyone that has visited Forster on the last month." "Oh..." "Can you ever forgive me?" "If I can't forgive you, Shelley..." "I don't deserve you." "Understand?" "I want you to call Carol and patch her through to me." "Okay?" "Okay." "Kim?" "Kim?" "Hi, can you transfer me to Lynn Johnson office, please?" "Kim?" "Kim?" "Kim?" "Where are you going in such a hurry, Jack?" "Is there something upstairs that you don't want me to see?" "There's a woman named Sara Pollard upstairs very dead." "You can see her, if you'd like." "Look, I'm a straight shooter, right, Jack?" "Yeah." "And you'd never screw me over, right?" "Oh, come on." "Why are your finger prints all over Dale Morris apartment?" "They are?" "Yeah." "And you were right about the Halothane on the blood stream." "What you failed to mention is the fact that your semen is in her vagina cavity." "Is your semen in Sara Pollard?" "Where the hell are you going with this, Frank?" "Can't you see this is a frame?" "Forster is coordinating this whole thing from prison." "Can't you see that?" "Yeah, right." "It is Forster's semen on Sara Pollard it's yours, Jack?" "Somebody hired Sara Pollard to be with me last night..." "Then killed her..." "Took my semen and deposit into Dale Morris." "Do you have any idea how absurd that sounds?" "No, it's not absurd." "I don't have time to explain, Frank." "Carol isn't answering." "What?" "What?" "Carol isn't answering." "Get the names of all the women lawyers who work for Forster." "I want their names and ages." "Look, I know how you operate, Jack." "What the hell are you doing?" "I know how you use people." "It's no secret you're a womanizer, you drink too much." "How do I know that you haven't gone completely over the edge?" "Oh, man, I can't believe it." "How do I know?" "I don't know what you do anymore." "What did I do, Frank?" "Did I send myself a tape?" "Did I blow up my car?" "Did I set my apartment on fire?" "Did I fire bullets at myself?" "For God sakes, Frank, wake up." "What the hell..." "What are you doing?" "I have no idea who you're anymore." "You don't?" "I got Gramm." "I'm bringing him in." "No, you're not gonna do this." "Frank." "Frank." "Just give me some time." "Just give me some time." "I can untangle this." "Okay?" "Just give me..." "Here, give me some time." "Don't move or I'll blow your head off." "Don't point a gun at me, Frank." "Don't point a gun at me." "Please." "I wanted to sync up our watches, that's all." "All right, Jack." "What do you need?" "I need time." "I need ten minutes." "Okay?" "Here, let's sync up now." "At 11:40, meet me at my office at the university." "Kim?" "What happened?" "I know you're only trying to help me, but don't go to my office on campus." "You understand?" "It's dangerous." "Don't be a hero." "When you get this message, call me back A.S.A.P." "You understand?" "It's Jack." "Yeah." "There's still no answer at Johnson's office." "Hold on." "Yeah." "Jack?" "Kim..." "Whatever you do, don't go to my office on the campus." "Do you understand?" "You have 14 minutes." "What?" "It was me, Jack." "I set you up." "I had a computer dialing service call you up..." "Rearranging times, using electronic altered voice." "Kim, this is no time to joke." "Meet me in your office in ten minutes, Jack." "11:40." "Don't be late." "Kim." "Kim." "Oh, shit." "Man..." "Yeah." "Hey, Jack, I got the names of the women on Forster's legal team." "They were three." "Hannah Baker, 53." "Rosane Caputto, 47, and..." "Lydia Doherty, 28." "And Lydia Doherty, 28." "How did you know?" "Cause her name is on the signature sheet you gave me." "I want you to do a search on Lydia Doherty." "I want you to get all the information you can." "Fax it to my office on campus." "Okay?" "Do it now." "Hey, another hundred bucks and I'll wait." "What the hell are you doing in here?" "This is Lauren Douglas bag." "It was stolen today." "I found it in your desk." "Halothane." "What is it doing here?" "What are you doing in here?" "This is what you used to kill Dale and Sara?" "Or do you have no idea about this too?" "Oh, sure I do." "I left all this stuff in my desk so you'd come along and find it." "You convinced the jury that Forster was guilty." "How do I know you didn't kill these women too?" "Who sent you here?" "Yeah." "I'd like to report a suspect..." "In the Seattle Slayer case." "What the hell..." "Dr. Jack Gramm." "Put down the goddamn phone." "What's the matter with you?" "Who sent you here?" "You think I'm too dumb to figure it out from myself?" "Yes, I do." "Because whoever sent you here is deeply involved in the Slayer killings." "Lydia Doherty." "Lydia Doherty." "What the hell is that?" "Yeah?" "Come to the Stern Building now." "Corner office, seventh floor." "Alone." "You have five minutes, Jack." "What are you doing?" "I'm not moving." "I don't have time to explain this." "Get away from the door." "Come on." "You're gonna shoot me?" "Yeah." "I'm a bad shot." "Frank, when you get this message I'm gonna be at the Stern Building..." "On the seventh floor." "Get there as soon as you can." "Oh, God." "Punctual, Dr. Gramm." "I'm gonna give you a B+ for effort." "Lynn Johnson is indisposed, but I'm sure she'd say hello, if she could." "As for your old friend, Kim, she didn't quite make the grade." "Lydia." "You got the name right." "Lydia Doherty." "Copy cat murderer." "God, I wish Forster could see your face." "You look so totally clueless." "I hope that's not a gun you're holding." "Is that a gun, Dr. Gramm?" "What do you want?" "Is that a gun?" "I have a gun." "Then do this." "Put it on the floor..." "And slide it to me." "To me." "Okay." "Okay." "You slide it." "One more time, slide it to me." "Slowly." "And move back." "Better." "I'd like to talk to John Forster, please." "This is his appeal attorney, Lydia Doherty." "They monitor his calls." "You gonna implicate him." "The brilliant Dr. Gramm..." "And his psycho gamble, is that it?" "Sorry for the trouble I caused, Dr. Gram." "You know that I did, Dr. Gramm, with honors." "Dale told me how good you're with her when her dad died." "She was so grateful." "But despite the fact that insanity is a legal concept..." "It doesn't mean that someone is not sick." "Have him call me on my cell." "He knows the number." "What do you want?" "What about you start with a confession?" "I confess." "To what?" "To what?" "To everything." "I confess." "I want you to speak clearly and I want the truth." "Where do I start?" "Janie Kay." "Janie Kay?" "I coached her." "Shut it off." "Shut it off." "I am." "Go again." "I coached Janie Kay." "In what trial?" "I coached Janie Kay..." "In John Forster's trial." "I coached her." "She perjured herself." "I gave false testimony." "And John Forster was convicted." "Based on an unlawful testimony." "Based on an unlawful testimony." "Feel good?" "What are you doing?" "Are you assessing me?" "Are you looking for a weakness, Dr. Gramm?" "I'm just wondering what is next." "Aren't you gonna offer to make me a deal?" "Sacrifice yourself for Kim and Carol?" "Be the hero." "Well, that wouldn't fly out, would it?" "I'd offer, but it wouldn't fly." "Rejected." "Have any other moves?" "Or you spent so quickly..." "I could move my eyes, like this, e look behind you." "To see if there is someone there with a gun pointed to your head." "How much time I got left?" "You have about a minute." "Jack." "Enough time for your last words." "I'm not gonna deny you those." "All this torture, all this torment..." "For an infatuation?" "It's not an infatuation, don't demean me." "Well, if it's not an infatuation what is it?" "Stop, please." "I went through great lengths to pull this off." "John really appreciates the quality of my work." "Timing the phone calls..." "Perfecting the ropes and plus implicating everyone close to you." "Coaching Carol and Kim." "All the while staying invisible." "It was me, Jack." "I set you up." "You know what I don't understand?" "How, in God's name, does anybody give up their free will?" "How you do that?" "45 seconds." "I saw you." "You came to my class, I remember you." "You were intelligent." "An individual." "You challenged things." "You challenged me." "You challenged ideas." "You're your own person." "How could you ever allowed yourself to be so manipulated by this guy?" "30 seconds." "You're gonna take the fall for this guy?" "If that's what he wants, so be it." "You see, Jacko..." "I'm a true believer." "You better believe that's an FBI agent..." "With a gun pointed right into your head..." "At this moment." "Believe it." "No more kidding." "Believe it." "Believe it." "I believe your time is up..." "Dr. Gramm." "God." "Jack." "Jack." "No." "Jack." "Jack." "No." "Jack." "No." "Jack." "No." "No." "Again." "I got you." "I got you." "It's okay." "It's okay, sweetheart." "Requesting immediately MT help." "At the UNW Campus, Stern Building." "I repeat." "Immediately emergency medical technician." "Multiple stab wounds." "There you go." "That's okay." "Don't move." "Yeah." "This is officer Finnegan from the State Penitentiary Walla Walla." "I'm placing a call from John Forster to his attorney Lydia Doherty." "Put him through." "Go ahead." "Lydia." "Did you finish with Gramm?" "She's downstairs." "Gramm?" "Put my attorney on the phone, please." "She's indisposed." "Look, you're meddling her." "You shouldn't be meddling in." "You seized a naive junior lawyer on your legal staff." "You realized that she's damaged psychologically and..." "Genius, isn't it?" "Susceptible to your craps." "And what you do?" "You get her to kill people for you." "So you can stay alive." "That's an innovative legal strategy, if I have ever heard of any." "Dr. Gramm, I'm flattered with your imagination." "But you're grasping in straw." "She becomes a student of mine, no less..." "You keep her on the appeal process, but she's still your lawyer..." "So she has unlimited access to you..." "So you can plan your copy cat murders together." "And then you can get a new trial." "And live happily ever after." "Isn't that the case?" "Dr. Gramm, I want you to listen very closely..." "Because when I get out of here..." "I'm gonna go out and have a nice meal..." "Stop by your grave..." "And piss all over it." "Now, please, put my angelical attorney on the phone." "She's dead." "It's over, Forster." "Except for the clock, that goes tic-Tac." "Tic-Tac." "You got 12 hours to live." "I'm glad, that my sister Jony hasn't been forgotten." "We did good, Jane, we did good."