"I'm Ivy Moxam." "I was taken 13 years ago." "I've just escaped." "Please help me." "(SOBBING)" "This is my daughter." "(POLICE SHOUTING)" "CORBIN: (ON TV) [f the reports are true, then Ivy Moxam will now be a 26-year-old woman." "ELLIOTT:" "No sighting of kidnapper at address." "He's still at large." "There's nothing left." "We have a face!" "Mark White!" "ELLIOTT:" "A 13-year-old who was meant to be in class at your school was taken by a member of your staff." "IVY:" "Tim, Ivy here." "I swear I didn't know." "He's taken another girl." "# Kiss your face" "# Turn your cheek" "# Lay your head down Lay your head down" "POLICE OPERATOR:" "All units, looking for a silver Ford Fiesta used to abduct 10-year-old Phoebe Tarl, missing for over nine hours." "Witness has identified Mark White as a suspect." "Did you know him?" "Did I know him?" "LISA:" "The kidnapper, Mark White, was he known to you before your abduction?" "ELLIOTT:" "We've found out he worked at your school as a kitchen porter." "Now, you didn't know that, did you, Ivy?" "We're aware it's a big school, the kitchen alone employed 20 people, but did you ever cross paths with him?" "Did he know the little girl, is that why you're asking me?" "We're yet to establish a connection between White and Phoebe." "Most likely it was an opportunistic abduction." "It looks as if he followed her back from youth club." "You don't happen to know where he might have taken Phoebe, do you?" "Was there anywhere else he talked about?" "What about family?" "Or friends?" "It would make sense if he was hunkering down with someone who loves him enough to protect him." "His mum." "Carol." " And what did he say about her?" " That he'd put her away, in a home." "Will that help you find the little girl?" "Elliott?" "Elliott, eh?" "Last time I checked, that was my name." "Smartarse." "You give a first name, you get trust." "Chief Superintendent Burridge from New Scotland Yard." "But on this case, you can call me David." "Sorry, on this case?" "Are we still reporting to you, sir?" "As has just been made clear to you, DI Carne, it's Chief Superintendent Burridge's case now." "(SCOFFS) And what about you?" " Reassigned." "DAVID:" "We have officers over at Sunbridge High." "Then, of course, there's your girl." "Look, this news, it's..." " She's fragile." " Mmm." "There's a Dr Young." "She'll carry out a psych assessment, find out how much leeway we can have with Ivy." "Which of you is closer to her?" " Elliott." " Do the introductions." "Lisa, I want you to find the mother, Carol White." "Time is not our friend." "CORBIN:" "With a second girl taken, questions are inevitably being asked of the police." "How could this be allowed to happen again just days after Ivy Moxam managed to escape captivity and reunite with her family?" "YAZZ:" "What are you up to?" "I can't find my phone." "It's plugged in by your side of the bed where it always is." "Ah." "My brain's crying out for a morning coffee." "Over this way, Mr Tarl." "We'll find her, Ivy." "We will." "They kept me in overnight, until they were satisfied that I knew nothing about that..." "Him working here." "Look, would you dig out the contact details of all staff from the period that Mark White was on these premises?" "I want to talk to them." "Aren't the police doing that?" "People clam up with them." "They know me." "This school, everyone in it, it's my responsibility." "I thought it was just bad luck, him taking me." "But if he was at my school, it can't have been, can it?" "I must have been chosen." "(KNOCKING ON DOOR)" "I've Dr Young here for you." "Thank you." "Hi, DI Carne." "Ivy, hello, I'm Dr Young." "I'll need to speak to Ivy alone." "I'll be outside if you need me." "DR YOUNG:" "I don't know what they've told you about me, but I'm a clinical psychologist and we're going to spend an hour here now to see if the two of us can work together." "Everything you say is just between us." "I'm someone with no agenda, apart from to help you, someone you can talk to." "I'm tired of talking." "Hmm." "I'm sure, but it's very important for you to have someone you can feel at ease with." "I do." "With Tim." "And, urn, Tim is?" "A boy friend." "Not like that, I..." "A friend who is a boy." "And he's from your past?" "And now." "(PHONE RINGING)" "Jesse Rawlins." "Hi." "Two hands at your disposal." "From the Met?" "The Super sent me over, said you've a search on?" "For White's mum, yes." "It seems care homes are the last places holding out from the modern world." "Paper records." "Find any Carol Whites, give me a shout." "(GRUNTING)" "(SIREN WAILING)" "Is this all for the little girl?" "The whole force is out looking for her." "(RADIO PLAYING CLASSICAL)" " I was listening to that." " So was the whole street." "Tea?" "No, I want everything ready for when Ivy's back." "It's just a cup of tea, Chris." "I think you can allow yourself that." " (DOORBELL RINGING) -(SIGHS)" "(DOOR OPENING)" "(DOOR CLOSES)" " Um..." "I'm sorry to, well, just come round like this but I've something for Ivy, if it's okay to give to her?" "I thought because of the other girl being taken that..." " That's good of you." " She's not here." "They've taken her in to help with the inquiries." "Oh, could I, urn, maybe wait for her?" "We need time alone as a family." "(DOOR OPENING)" "It might do Ivy good to see Tim." "Tim?" "Put your number in there." "When Ivy gets back, I'll give you a call, see if we can sort something out." "How's she, uh..." "Is she all right?" "Honestly?" "I don't know." "(LINE RINGING)" " EMMA:" "Mum?" " Ivy?" "It's just me." " Who is it?" " He hasn't said." "Well, tell whoever it is I can't speak." "EMMA:" "She needs some clothes." "What size is she?" "It's not exactly my speciality but I don't know, 10?" "Eight?" "I should know, I'm her sister." "Go easy on yourself, Em." " We're a team, right?" " Always." "It's just this, it's quicker alone." "(DOOR CLOSING)" "ALIA:" "Mrs Moxam?" "Shit!" "You have no idea how many cakes I've incinerated." "My specialist skill, rescuing them." "I thought cake, she always liked cake." "That can't have changed." "May I?" "Then load on whipped cream and as many strawberries as you can find." "(DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES)" " How did it go?" "You all right?" " Fine." "Well done, darling." "Emma, get your sister a drink." "There's juice in the fridge or tea or..." "ANGUS:" "Thank you, DI Carne." "Right." "Sorry." "You always beat me to it." "We're lucky not to come in and find you with your tongue right in the bowl." "You used to get it all over your face and Mum would say..." "BOTH: "There are raw eggs in that, you know"." "Do you have a mobile I could borrow?" "Who do you want to call?" "IS it Tim?" " Shall we have cake first?" " I'm not hungry." "NEWSCASTER: ...in the hunt to find 10-year-old Phoebe Tarl, after she was abducted by Mark White." "Today, her father..." " Are you sure you want to watch this?" "ROBERT:" "My baby girl Phoebe was snatched last night by Mark White." "Mr White, Mark, please don't hurt her." "Let her go." "Phoebe, sweetie, if you can hear me, know that Daddy loves you." "There's lots of people who love you." "Your nan..." "How's Granny?" "And all your friends, they're all thinking of you and..." "We just can'?" "wait to see you again." "She's gone, love." "Gone where?" "Just be strong." " She got sick." "And be brave." "Five years ago." "She is wearing jeans, pink coat and she has on her favourite backpack..." "IVY:" "No, don't." "I can confirm that this case is linked to the disappearance 13 years ago of Ivy Moxam." "The suspect in both cases is Mark White." "His image is circulating widely and 1 can assure the public that I have a large team of officers working round the clock to apprehend him." "If anyone has any information..." " Phoebe... oh the whereabouts of Phoebe Tarl, please come forward and speak to us immediately." "What are you up to, darling?" "I can carry those down if you like." "There's some lovely ones in there of you, we could all have a look." "I'm all cobwebby, I need to shower." "How about I run you a bath?" " You're being really brave." " Mum, please." "I want you to know that it'll be better now," "I'll do everything I can to make it better." "(SIGHING)" "How was babysitting?" "You get a time out to read the psych assessment?" "It only confirmed what I know." "We need to tread carefully, take our time." " Did we read the same report?" " Let me guess, you want to go at Ivy all guns blazing?" "I want to find Phoebe." "You ship a load of bodies in from the Yard, it sends a message, "cock-up"." "And we didn't." "Phoebe being taken was..." "We can't watch all the young girls in Bristol all the time." "We're in the minority that weren't bumped off this case." "Means we're doing something right." "Yeah, are you coming?" "We have to say something." "He's trying to leave quietly, let him." "Sir, I just wanted to say," "I think it's really shitty what they've done." "Careful, son." "A case like this, it's the kind you look up from a year on and you've lost everything else." "All done." "Leaving us three options." "Two, actually, Tilwood got closed down four years ago." " And this is?" "flames, thanks." "Actually, it's Jesse." "Got it down to two Carol Whites in Bristol care homes." "My kind of odds." "We get to his mother, will you crack a smile?" "Yeah, well, anywhere's better than here." "And I wouldn't go waiting for that smile." "Maybe I'll get one tomorrow night?" "You hadn't forgotten, had you?" "I've defrosted some old chicken and everything." " Way to make a girl feel special." "(LAUGHING)" "(KNOCKING ON DOOR)" " I'm busy!" " (KNOCKING CONTINUES)" "I'm sorry to..." "I don't want you to think that I'm interfering but I've spoken to Tim and he's going to meet you this afternoon." "Alia will take you." "Thanks, Dad." "I'll leave you to get ready." " RECEPTIONIST:" "Here." " Carol White." "Passed away in 2002." "Do you ever think about updating your records?" "Would save us a lot of time when we don't really have it to waste." "Sorry about him." "Does it have a next-of-kin on there?" "I'll check." "Mark White." "She's our girl." "Was our girl." "Well, elderly lady." "Could you print us off a copy of her file?" "When I'm being the charming one, we're in trouble." "What's up with you?" "These places, I'm not a fan." "Whereas I positively love the stale air and threat of imminent death." "RECEPTIONIST:" "Here you go." "Carol White's previous address." "15 Denby Close, Basingstoke." "Let's get a team out there." "(BIRDS CHIRPING)" "Hi." "Hi." "This girl that's been taken," "I can't imagine how you must..." "I suppose I'm trying to say I'm..." "I'm sorry." " You remembered this place?" " Of course." "I used to come here when, urn..." "After..." "TIM:" "Lucky dip?" "Close your eyes." " You've still got yours?" "(SCOFFS)" "I saved you the chest." "That was the best bit." "Pick again?" "El tried to get me to sneak out after curfew to see you." "Mmm." "Eloise was the definition of trouble." "Do you still see her?" "I haven't, not for, urn..." "She couldn't get out of this place quick enough." "But this place is home." "I think so." "Last pick." "You kept them?" "No one seems to write any more, you're lucky if you get a postcard." "What do you mean?" "Well, it's all emails now," "Facebook, texts, Twitter." "Modern life has killed the art of letter writing." "What's that?" "LISA:" "No sign of Mark White at his mum's house." "It's been rented out for the past 14 years." " All monies going to her son." " So our kidnapper's solvent." "And income equals options." "He's headed somewhere, maybe he plans to hole up, recreate what he had with Ivy?" "We won't let him." "We'll pick him up en route, put this sorry mess to bed." "Year 6." "Your sponsored silence." "I reckon you lasted... four minutes?" "I can see the tell-tale signs, Ivy Moxam." "That's a smile you've got brewing." "It was six minutes, actually." "That's a record for you." "(BOTH LAUGHING)" "Before it gets dark, do you want to go for a walk?" "A walk?" "All right, grandpa." "Try and keep up." "(IVY SQUEALING AND LAUGHING)" "(PANTING)" "Thanks." "What, for giving you a head start?" "For the first time since..." "I felt free." "Well, don't get too excited, but, urn, it's called an iPod." "It's somewhere you can keep your music, your CDs all in one place." "Uh, there's 13 playlists on here." "One for each year." "Uh, it's sort of like a musical tour." "That must have taken you ages." "I liked doing it." "Urn..." "Here." "Which song do you want to hear first?" "Surprise me." "Remember that song that we wore out?" "(SIMPLE SONG BY THE SHINS PLAYING)" "This has been the same for me." "# Well, this is just a simple song" "# To say what you done" "# 1 told you 'bout all those fears" "# And away they did run" "# You sure must be strong" "# And you feel like an ocean being warmed by the sun" "# When 1 was just nine years old" "# I swear that I dreamt?" "# Your face on a football field... #" "(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)" "Mark White was in a rush, the forgotten hair tie is proof of that." "He dumps the car." "Has he found another?" "Is he on foot?" "Where's he going?" "LISA:" "Nowhere." "He's staying in Bristol." "Where he knows most people are looking for him." "So, what's keeping him here?" "WY'" "So why take Phoebe?" "A straight replacement?" "The man can't stand a moment without a captive, someone in his power." "Or he isn't finished with Ivy yet." "(SIREN WAILING)" "(SIMPLE SONG PLAYING ON IPOD)" "I'm afraid we've got to go via the station before home." "I've spoken to your mum." "(SIMPLE SONG PLAYING LOUDLY)" "Tim?" "Tim." "Tim!" "Table eight have asked again for that bottle of Pinot Noir." "Shit, yeah, sorry, coming right up. (CHUCKLES)" "Interview of Ivy Moxam commencing at 21 :04 by DS Merchant and DI Carne." "We've an update for you on the Phoebe Tarl investigation." " You've found her?" " Unfortunately not, yet." "White's car's been found abandoned." "We think he's now on foot or already in a secure location." "LISA:" "Which is where you can help, by retracing your movements the day of your abduction." "Knowing how White acted before could tell us how he'll act now, get us one step ahead of him." "Well, what about his mum, what did she say?" "Not a lot." "Carol White passed away in 2002." "But he..." "I thought she was alive, why..." "Why would he do..." "If we could go back to the 2nd of May 2003, from your previous statement, it seems you lost consciousness after the blow to the head." "That would account for a few minutes." "The rest?" "That's all I remember, sorry." "LISA:" "Can you try?" "See if anything else comes back?" "For Phoebe?" " Okay, thanks, Ivy." " Well..." "How will you find Phoebe" "if I can't remember?" " It'll be hard." "Harder." "The memories are there, Ivy, it's just a question of unlocking them." "I don't know how." "Then, that's us done." "There is a way." "We could take you back there." "Lisa, a word?" "She'd be totally safe, both of us will be with her." "Being back there could bring her memories to the fore." "At what risk to her recovery?" "None, if we do it properly." "Sensitively." "I can do sensitively." " I don't like it." " Oh, God, no shit." "I want to go back to the house." "To help Phoebe." "LISA:" "Go at your own pace towards the house." "Anything that strikes you, an image, a noise, a smell, anything at all, just shout, okay?" "Forensics finished up this morning, so everything should be as was when you were here." "(DOOR SLAMMING SHUT)" "MARK:" "Will you be a good girl?" "See, there's a good girl." "1 knew you were a good girl." "Ivy, are you okay?" "Elliott." "LISA:" "Do you remember being brought here?" "Whatever was on me was pulled off." "I could see but I..." "I couldn't..." "ELLIOTT:" "You were gagged?" "LISA:" "What did you see?" "Him." "He had a gun." "Did he threaten you with it?" "ELLIOTT:" "You don't have to go back there." "Ivy." "What have you done to it?" " It's as was." " No, it isn't." "It isn't!" "LISA:" "This is how we found it, Ivy." "It wasn't the police who left it this way, it was Mark White." "This was ours." "Even you have to admit, that was really odd behaviour." "She actively wanted to go into the cellar." "And when she was in there, she..." "It was her whole life for 13 years, Lisa." "But what kind of a life?" "That's the question." "Thank you for doing that, Ivy." "I can't imagine that..." " I'll get you home." " Don't tell my family." "I don't want them to know I came back." "(CAR DOOR OPENS)" "(CAR DOOR CLOSES)" "(CAR STARTING)" "CHRISTINA:" "There's dinner for you here, love." "(SIGHING)" "(SIMPLE SONG PLAYING ON IPOD)" "I, er, didn't get the memo." " Last night's events..." " Gave us nothing." "Not strictly true." "Lisa, tell him your theory." "In the cellar, Ivy said, "This was ours."" "There's a possibility, and it's just that, a possibility, that Ivy knew Mark White before the abduction, that she had seen him in school." "Why would she lie?" "If he was grooming her, if it was a pre-existing relationship that then went sour..." "Hey, wait." "Sorry, sorry." "I'm not sure I'm hearing this right." "You're saying that she, she willingly went into that house, into that cellar, and stayed there for 13 years?" "Like I said, it's a possibility." "And one we need to consider, because if Ivy is misleading us, then we can't trust her." "And if we can't trust her, then..." "Listen, no one's denying it's an unpalatable thought, Elliott." "But if there is any truth in it, for Phoebe's sake, we need to follow it through." "I'd really like to know why you've gone behind my back with this." " We're supposed to be a team." " Yeah." "We are." "And I should be able to go to you with anything." "If I can't, whose fault is that?" "(SIMPLE SONG PLAYING ON IPOD)" " You sure I should go to work?" " Can't have both of us not earning." "Oh, you'll wake Ivy up!" ""Exclusive photo of Ivy Moxam." ""Moxam caught on a date with a mystery man" ""when 10-year-old Phoebe's still missing."" ""Oh, it'll do her good to see Tim." Bra-fucking-vo, Angus!" "(SIGHING)" "How did they know?" "You have to assume they're still watching you all the time." "I'd hoped they'd move on and they..." "They will, eventually." "What exactly were you doing?" "Ivy does know her mystery man is married, doesn't she?" "Of course." "She was upset, that's all." "(SIGHS)" "After everything she's gone through and here's me..." "Sorry." "Please, don't apologise." " Could we borrow a word, Ivy?" " I don't want to talk." "It won't take long, I promise." "To be clear, you had never seen White before the 2nd of May 2003, when he abducted you from Dockton Lane?" "I've already told you all of this." "No, I hadn't." "Not even maybe just to wave to at school or maybe just a smile?" "Thanks, Ivy." "There's one more area we need to track back on, if I may?" "The time White allowed you out of the house, where did you go?" "I'm not sure." "Did he leave you alone at any point?" "She was allowed out of that place?" "Why didn't she run or scream or anything?" "Emma, can you give us a minute alone, please, love?" "No, you're not shutting me out from it all again." "We are not going to be able to move forward as a family" "unless we face up to what's happened." " I've got a load of washing." "We have to be prepared to ask questions, Chris, no matter how difficult the answers might be." "She'll talk when she's ready to talk." "She won't, not if we're behaving like everything's normal." "This doesn't feel very normal." " Where's the phone?" " Who do you want to call?" " I just want the phone, okay?" " You're not calling Tim." "We'll let ourselves out." "The papers, these people, they, they twist things." " They're already twisting things." " I would like the phone." "You can speak to him when it's all died down." " And you can't tell me what to do." " It's for your own good, darling." "People see you with a man and it..." "It might give the wrong impression." "I'm not a child any more." "I've had sex." "Any service this side of Christmas?" "Not open yet." "That go for an old friend, too?" " Shit!" "(LAUGHING)" "Eloise." "As greetings go, that's on the shoddy side." "You've put on a few quid." "Shit, I'm supposed to be buttering you up." "Why's that?" "I need a bottle of wine and a terrible night's sleep on your floor." "(CHUCKLES)" "I need to work out what I'm going to say to Ivy." "That makes two of us." "You were right." "You were right about everything." "For the girl who's hard to impress." " What is it?" "just watch it, then work out how you're going to pay me back." "IVY: 29th of May, 2002." "Today in the canteen Tim asked me to see The Scorpion King." "El kicked me under the table before I could answer." "She says I need to learn to play games, though 1 don't wan': to play games." "He's asked me out, he finally asked me out and I want to scream yes." "(KNOCK ON DOOR)" "Who is it?" "It's me, Tim." "Come in." "You Okay?" "That moment in the park was for us." " I'm really sorry, Ivy." " Don't say sorry." "It's not you." "It's me." "They won't leave me alone." "It's..." "When's it enough?" "I went back there for her." "It doesn't matter." "Let's just enjoy being alone for five minutes." "Ivy..." "Five minutes would be a record with Mum around." "How was she with you?" "Well, she was..." " She doesn't want me to see you." " Ivy, I..." " She'd happily keep me in my room." "She just loves you." "I know." " Ivy, there's something..." " Please don't." "(IN YOUR DREAMS BY DARK DARK DARK PLAYING)" "# Don't say nothing, no" "# I can see when you're lying, oh, oh" "# When you're alone, you're so alone" "# When you're alone, you're so alone" "ALIA: (KNOCKING) Ivy?" "They need you back in." "Sorry." "# When you're alone, you're so alone" "You're about to hear one audio extract, one visual extract." "Both relate to the 5th of July 2013, when you were permitted to leave 5 Colbridge Road." "ELLIOTT:" "We appreciate you helping us out." "From an interview you gave us today at 9:10, as it plays, if you could turn your attention to the screen on your left." "LISA: (ON TAPE) The time Mark White allowed you out of the house, where exactly did you go?" "IVY: (ON TAPE) I'm not sure." "This is where you went." "Darterton Shopping Centre in 2013." "We found CCTV footage of it." "You may not have known the name." "It was poorly signed." "LISA: (ON TAPE) Were you [eff alone at an y point?" "IVY: (ON TAPE) No." "Can you confirm that the CCTV image shows you walking unaccompanied by Mark into the ladies' toilets?" "Yes." "But it was, urn..." "I was..." "LISA: (ON TAPE) Did you fee!" "there was ever an occasion where you could have attempted to flee?" "IVY: (ON TAPE) No, he was with me the whole time." "Except he wasn't." "What's the timestamp, DI Carne?" "11245." "11245." "Six minutes after you walk into the toilets alone, you emerge from the toilets alone." "Six minutes is a long time, Ivy." "Why didn't you run from here, a public space, yet you did run from Mark's house?" "I couldn't." "He was outside." "Outside where?" "Because he isn't here." "Instead, here you are looking for Mark White." "Actively looking for your kidnapper." "You walk past these other shoppers, not once alerting them to your situation, as if in a rush to find Mark." "And when you do, you sit down beside him" "and take his hand." " Turn it off!" " I'm sorry if this is upsetting you." " Turn it off, Elliott." "I can't do that, not until we're through, and we almost are." "You've lied to us about this." "What's to say you're not lying about other things?" "About knowing White?" "About what really happened the day you were taken?" "About where Phoebe is!" "How many times..." "I want you to find her." "You did know him, didn't you?" "Do you know where he is right now?" "I don't." "Hmm, I want to believe you, I really do." "But if anything happens to Phoebe and you're found to have misled us, it will be very serious indeed." "Elliott?" "You believe me, don't you?" "Ivy, we are on your side." "You need to know that." "You don't want us to find him, do you?" "You walked up to him, your abductor, and you took his hand." "Maybe it would just be easier if you admitted to us... you love him." "I need to see Tim." "You were right to go hard-line." "Oh, we don't think Ivy's been through enough?" "Save your empathy for Phoebe." "If Ivy is protecting White, even by omission, she's abetting a serial kidnapper." "Remember that." "How do we move forward, then, sir?" "See where she goes, who she speaks to, if there's a sniff of her knowing where White is." "Can I speak to Tim, please?" "Don't you know who I am?" " I need to speak to Tim." " Tim!" "Live and direct, in the flesh." " Ivy." " Please, can I go?" "Because I've got all the words ready and I don't want something else getting in the way again or people making out I feel things when I don't." "Everything's changed." "Everyone." "Except me and you and..." "I want us to be together like we were and..." "I love you." "Who's this?" "Tim, who's this?" "Yazz." "Yasmin." "(GASPING)" "TIM:" "Ivy!" "Ivy!" "Wait!" "Can we go?" "Guess our date's off, then?" " You thought it was a date?" " No." "Of course not." "People need to eat, that's all." "To the casual observer, I'd say that you are taking this Ivy business a mite too personally, wouldn't you?" " Fuck off." " I'll take that as an admission, then." "Here was me feeling sorry for you, worrying that she was getting too attached, when look at you!" "Careful, you're sounding jealous." "Of her?" "You're going down a stupid path, even with your track record." "She's lying to us, making a fool of you." "So much of what she says doesn't add up." "There's a little girl out there, terrified." "Don't pretend this is about finding Phoebe." "Remember, I know you, Lisa." "This is about you." "It always is." "You've sniffed out a chance at being DI and you're going for it, snarling jaws and all." "I tell you something, it's not an attractive look." "Now, take your hands off my car." "Take your hands off." "We're here, Ivy." "Home." "I don't want my mum to see me like this." "Could I have a minute alone?" "Please?" "Of course." "It'll..." "It'll be okay." "(CAR DOOR CLOSES)" "(GASPING)" "I'm not going to hurt you, Ivy." " Is she okay?" " You were very brave." "Mark White, we believe that you're telling us you want to talk." "So, where were you?" "I don't really go in for the good Samaritan side of things." " That'd be a hell of a lie from Ivy." " Hardly the first."