"WITWATS" " English subtitles Version 1.04 (2010-12-06 18:30)" "Could a strange substance, found by a southwest Arkansas man, be part of a government test?" "That's the question at the heart of a phenomenon called "chemtrails", now getting widespread attention." "Well, they say the government is dumping chemicals on us to control or manipulate the weather." "And they say the unusual looking jet trails in the sky are actually chemical-laden "chemtrails"." "People say the government is up there in airplanes, spraying all kinds of chemicals to change or manipulate the weather  leaving what you see there and they call that a "chemtrail"." "So, when I look up there and think are contrails, you´re telling me are chemtrails?" "Yeah!" "A contrail would be dissipated by now!" "That´s interesting, Dale and Christina." "This is of interest not just in this country but in european countries and frankly all over the world." "A lot of folks interested in it!" "Well, Dave, you mentioned that climatologists and others who study the atmosphere believe, that   they´d be able to surely spot any kind of signs of an ominous plot." "Our journey started in San Diego, California where thousands of scientists, engineers, policy makers and journalists   gathered for the "American Association for the Advancement of Science" (AAAS) Conference." "One of the topics was the artificial manipulation of the Earth´s climate also called "Geoengineering"." "During the meeting scientist spoke about the "plausibility" of implementing geoengineering campaigns throughout the world  under the guise of preventing global warming." "One widely accepted theory was to block the sun by spraying "something" into the atmosphere." "When they were asked about existing AEROSOL PROGRAMS, they stated CLEARLY, that so such programs had ever been implemented." "But strangely, these proposals sounded exactly like   what people around the world are claiming is already happening." "When I found out, that the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) was gonna be held down here   and the main body of topics would be on geoengineering, I had to come." "I had to be in on this." "I had to hear, what these top-climate-change-scientists had to say." "As to the other question about "Chemtrails" and weather geoengineering   would be deployed right now, without our knowledge." "I don´t have any personal insight on that, other than to say that   I worked in government at pretty high levels, at white house and state government." "I personally would be sceptical of that,   but honestly:" "You never know, what you don´t know!" "Chemtrails!" "On the internet they are cited as proof of the government creating clouds to combat global warming." "They claim the american government, with the secret approval of the national government,   is covertly using jet aircraft to spray population centers   with aluminum, with barium and with strontium ... so to reduce people´s humility (sic) and reduce the global population." "I´m always a little suspicious, ´cause the government doesn´t seem to that   capable to do something on such a large scale." "That is not rain." "That is not snow." "Believe it or not:" "Military aircraft, flying through the region is dropping "chaff"!" "Small bits of aluminum, sometimes it´s made of plastic or even metallized (sic) paper products!" "But it´s used as an anti-radar issue and obviously they up are practising." "Now, they won´t confirm that, but I was in the Marine Corps for many years  and I tell you right now:" "That´s what it is!" "What happens here:" "Military jets, some come out of Key West Airforce Base  and they move up into the atmosphere and they drop mylar strips. some could be a little wider,   some are small glass fibers, that are coated in aluminum." "What the air force does is, they take their military jets and they dump these out of the aircraft,   they fall into the atmosphere." "And some take as much to a day to fall down." "This is inevitably military or ..." "... something going on." "The government, the Air Force ..." "You see this kind of a pattern like this ..." "You can rest assured:" "There is something going on!" "They are actually little, bitty, magnetic..." "and little, bitty strips of   whether it´s aluminum ..." "It's a nuisance to you and I, to determine what´s real and what´s not." "But it looks like it is a live-saving operation of the military." "The apparent motive behind this conspiracy theory is:" ""One World Government"" " (multiple voices)" " ORDER!" "Order!" "I cannot hear!" "Mr. Speaker!" "I want to assure the house, that both my ministry and my colleague, the Minister of Health   who have received correspondence on this issue, that this conspiracy theory does not have   an iota of truth and that the trails observed from aircraft   simply come from jet engines!" "(laughs)" " (multiple voices)" " Number Nine." "Order!" "And I think, what an appealing example it is, of the new thoroughfare (sic) spokesperson for the Labour Party   that she´s spreading conspiracy theories about the United Stated government." " Order!" "Order!" "ORDER!" "I think this House has heard sufficient!" "It is called "Geo-Engineering"." "Fighting global warming by putting a chemical dust into the atmosphere and reflecting harmful radiation back into space." "We take geoengineering to mean:" "Deliberate, large scale intervention in the Earth´s system." "There are a variety of schemes that have been discussed for geo engineering." "Classic example is injecting reflecting particles into Earth orbit." "Nevertheless, there might be some good reasons to think about alumina." "Turns out, first of all, there has been done a lot of work on the environmental consequences of aluminum in the stratosphere." "The big deal really is that alumina has 4 times the volumetric rate of forcing small particles as does sulphur." "And that means you have 4 times less surface area for the same radiative forcing." "And this is a much bigger deal:" "You have roughly 16 times less the coagulation rate  and that´s the thing, that really drives removal." "So you could get away, we think, with much smaller mass levels." "So that´s why we see things like in the Hughes Aircraft patent from '89, they talk about aluminum." "And that´s why we are seeing in the surface water samples aluminum." "And here is David Keith saying, that aluminum has 4 times the reflective volume surface area." "So, they´d like us to think, that we are talking about sulphur   but here they slipped up and let it out   that aluminum is 4 times better to achieving their ends and   it sounds like they don´t want us to know the effects of." "The little picture is from a nano-fabrication study, which shows you can make very high quality ..." "and do this with a jet just in a very simple way   make high quality aluminum particles just by spraying aluminum vapour out which oxydizes." "So it´s certainly in principle possible to do that." "There´s a big literature that has already looked at that." "And you could do that by either building new versions of these aircraft or even re-engineering existing aircraft." "So, there are some ideas about it." "You go to an engineering firm, and you want this done  they don´t say this is hard or usual." "They say:" "OK, yes, we could do it!" "Aerosol geoengineering looks like, it is so cheap,   that the cost is basically not gonna be an issue." "That means the implementation decisions will be risk-to-risk decisions." "The risk of doing it against the risk of not doing it." "And it makes the problem of how we govern it, fundamentally harder and different than normal." "So, I have told you that it´s cheap to deliver materials into the stratosphere and I am convinced that´s true." "I don´t think that will change..." "But I think the more we do research, the less easy this will look." "The more complicated the environmental effects will look." "And that´s a good thing!" "Because right now, it looks too easy!" "So, I think that, if we do more research, we are likely to find out, that it´s harder and more complicated than we thought   and the side effects are harder to manage." "And that´s a healthy outcome, that will make it easier to do the management." "Of course, the opposite reaction is possible." "It is an empirical question, how people will actually react to knowledge about this." "Another reaction is to say:" "If these crazy scientists are so concerned about putting CO² into the atmosphere, they wanna think about these things." "Then that might actually mean, we should be more serious about the risk of CO² in the atmosphere." "And by the way, it´s not really a moral hazard." "It´s more like FREE RIDING on our grand kids." "Recent air quality studies, including from CARB California Air Quality Resource Board   have named submicron-sized particulates being particularly harmful for human respiration." "Through all discussions today, I have not heard any mention of this fallout   and has this been studied and also the effects of a highly reactive metal like aluminum on toxifying soils and waters?" "The question is, what would be the effects of these materials on human health, if they came down into the statosphere   and in particular small particles of aluminum." "So, the collaborators of mine, working on the aerosol scheme are actually folks from Carnegie Mellon, who focused on human health impacts   and while we haven´t published it, that was the very first thing we did,   was do the order of magnitude calculation, not with pencil and paper,   but with an expert on human health impacts, whether that could be an issue." "And ... for aluminum or other particles, there are a lot of toxological things, that need to get looked at seriously." "But if you are just thinking about the sheer number of particles and human health impact of small particles the answer is   what we haven´t published yet, that was the first thing we looked at some leading experts who do   epidemiological research on human health impacts and it´s not even close to be an issue." "So let me clarify, so 10 megatons of aluminum dumped into the atmosphere would have no human health impacts?" "So, let me be more careful here:" "We separate out the toxological qu(estion?" ") ..." "So, the aluminua we´ve only begun to research and published nothing!" "The aluminua we have only begun to research and published nothing!" "Dane looked at him and he said:" "So, you are telling me that spraying 10 to 20 megatons of aluminum   as you said, would have no human health effects?" "He took a deep breath and he swallowed and said:" "Let me be more careful here ..." "We haven´t done anything serious on alumina and so there could be something terrible, that we´ll find tomorrow, we haven´t looked at it." "And that for me, that was the whole main point of what is gonna be coming out to the public:" "It´s the damaging effects of aluminum that are being found around the world in massive amounts!" "Here´s David Keith confronted on this very issue and he looked at that point, like they just let the cat out of the bag!" "We haven´t done anything serious on aluminua and so there could be something terrible, that we find tomorrow, that we haven´t looked at it." "They are proceeding, because the evidence and the agenda is seperate from trying to thwart this crisis of global warming." "There is obviously several other objectives:" "Whether it´s depopulation, control, weapons aspects, communications aspects ..." "All kinds of things, you know, wildcards that we know nothing about." "We don´t really know, and I´m not gonna attempt to speculate on exactly what the agendas are   but we can see clearly, they are not ... The agendas are NOT benefiting mankind." "It´s benefiting the agenda of the elite." "And so, I think the question is how do you draw the line between   some activity, that is allowed and doesn´t need global governance and activities that do require global governance." "Dr. John Holdren has agreed to serve as assistent to the president for science and technology   and Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy." "I look forward to his wise counsel in the years ahead." "My personal opinion is that we have to keep geoengineering on the table." "We have to look at it very carefully, because we might get desperate enough to want use it." "So, what would we do, if in year 2040 or 2060 there is a severe climate crisis?" "Say widespread famines or Greenland is sliding suddenly into the ocean   that the only plausible way, in which we could start the earth cooling this century,   is to directly intervene in the climate system, say by putting particles in the stratosphere." "We do stuff in the stratosphere all the time, of course, and so it´s not as though the stratosphere is absolutely pristine." "But you don´t want to have people going off and doing things that involve large radiative forcings   or go on for extended periods or for that matter provide lots of reactive surfaces,   that could result in significant ozone destruction." "You know, maybe I´m putting a particle into the atmosphere, because I´m trying to make money  or maybe I´m putting a particle into the atmosphere, because I´m engaging in scientific research and trying to understand cloud physics   or maybe I´m putting this particle in the atmosphere because I´m trying to make it rain locally   to seed the cloud and get more snow on our ski slopes." "And this obviously raises all kinds of questions." "It´s usually risky." "It will likely negatively impact some people  but we might find ourselfs in a situation where those risks seem worth taking." "One of the things that really shocked me, was in one of the breakouts, they had the benefits of these programs and then the risks." "Now, the benefits:" "The one thing that was stated was ... just cooling the planet." "Some of the risks were ozone depletion, droughts in Africa and Asia." "I gotta tell you:" "I came away from this experience, after listening to these scientists for 4 days ... 4 days of symposiums   really concerned, because it´s clear now, that they are justifying, rationalizing and looking to legitimize   some really, really horrible impacts, further impacts on our environment." "And they are basically formulating the sales strategy and the implementation and oversight strategy ..." "and the funding strategy." "After San Diego I was shocked by the programs, that had been proposed." "I decided to write about." "That night, when I finished, I sent the article to an online publication, with my email address attached." "When I woke up the next morning, my inbox was flooded with responses from around the world." "Why?" "Because I had just broken a story on aluminum in geoengineering models   which I had no clue at the time, that very few people knew about." "Now, this metal - aluminum - is being found in massive quantities, way above normal levels, all over in rain, in soil and in snow." "After that, the calls started pouring in from people who were desperate for someone to investigate." "That was the fuel that started the film." "Before we started filming, we had the opportunity to sit down with one of our favourite authors and documentarians, G. Edward Griffin   to find out what he knew about the subject." "I`d like to talk for a minute about an issue that is getting more and more attention." "That´s the issue, which scientificly is called:" ""Stratospheric aerosol geoengineering" also called the "chemtrail issue"." "I´m very aware of the chemtrail vs. contrail controversy." "As far as I´m concerned it´s an open and shut case." "I have been watching the development of jet travel from it´s very beginning." "I used to live near the Los Angeles Airport." "I remember when the first jets came in and landed." "Man, they made a big noise!" "We never heard a noise like that before." "And we used to go down and sit at the end of the runway and watch these jets come in and take off   because it was a novel experience." "I´ve been watching jets all my life and I know about jet contrails." "I watched them." "They are vaporized moisture, ice crystals, and they get out there in the atmosphere ... and then they effervesce and evaporate and then disappear and you can see them." "Plane moves along and a little white trail follows right behind it   and usually 10 or 20 lengths of the plane or thereabouts and then it´s gone!" "And you can still see them that way, by the way, once in a while and so: "There goes a contrail."" "These other things, we are talking about, are not the same phenomena, at all!" "These planes go by and they billow out this white smoke   and it covers the sky from horizon to horizon and doesn´t dissipate at all." "And they criss-cross each other, and you see this thing cover the sky and turn it milky   and then people start having trouble breathing and then you hear stories about the aluminum and barium deposits, that they are picking up in the residue   and you put it all together and I don´t see how anybody who´s got their eyes open and their mind open   can come to any other conclusion, but that somebody is spending a lot of money and effort   to SPRAY THE PLANET!" "The question is:" "WHY?" "I have my own theories, but I hope, that there will be some good investigative reporters go out there and get us the answer!" "I know that, whenever it´s finally discovered and it will be, the people who are doing it will undoubtedly say:" ""Oh, well!" "We did it for you, folks!"" ""It´s for the greater good of the greater number."" ""It´s for the society!" It´s probably to prevent global warming." "Or maybe it´s to inoculate people against some kind of a dreaded biological attack." ""We can´t go around shooting everybody in the arm, but we can spray them and save their lives!" "You see, how good we are?"" ""We are doing it for the benefit of society!"" "I know, they are gonna - whatever it is - they are gonna say, it was for your good ... but mine." "Think of this:" "If we had the ability to steer hurricanes and a hurricane was going to slam into New Orleans." "And lets say, you could steer it, so it would hit Missisippi instead,   where for a hundred...that means..." "I would be willing to more or less kill 18 Missisippians to save 1,800 New Orleanians." "You know, that ... uhm... and if you do that knowingly, are you murdering those 100 people?" "And there´s all kinds of equity issues there." "Now, also we might be wrong about our steering and if we didn´t do the research right,   maybe our steering would intensify Kathrina and it even would kill more people in New Orleans and so   this question of how do you develop the confidence to know, that your intervention will reduce overall damage and then   how do you deal with the understanding, that you might be damaging some people,   who wouldn´t have been damaged before, while saving people overall." "The spraying appears to be mostly in NATO countries." "I have seen here it in the US, I have seen it in England, I´ve seen it in Scotland ..." "I´ve seen it in Canada and I have had reports from people who live in France ..." "There´s a grouping." "There´s a political grouping here, of some sort." "It´s international in scope." "It´s not just an american phenomena." "It´s international and anybody that wants to investgate that, I think, has to take that fact into consideration." "They are gonna find a political grouping and a POLITICAL motive here." "But in my humble opinion:" "It´s not in your good or mine at all!" "I don´t know what it is, but we´ll soon find out!" "I´m sure that, if you follow the old advice, which is: "Follow the money!"   you´ll come to the answer, sooner or later." "Soon we realized that we all shared the same need to get this information out there." "To share with the public, to let people know, what is being done." "Ed felt so passionately about the issue, he offered to help us." "Well, the main thing is now, since it looks like the budget is gonna be met   is get it done now." "We don´t come off the tree, knowing any answers at all." "Yeah, we are not scientists." "We are just asking questions, exactly." "And we are gonna be very sceptical about the answers." "That´s totally accurate, totally honest." "Why can´t people see this?" "They are not hearing it." "They don´t know." "The facts are not being presented to them." "We are very lucky, you know that?" "Look at this opportunity, that is being dumped on us." "(laughs)...opportunity!" " It´s, ... well this..." " Yes!" " It´s gonna be a battle, I know that." " A challenge and a battle, I mean...why are we here?" " It´s gonna be you for the moment..." " Sounds good ..." "I saw the sky criss-crossed with chemtrails." "And I can´t remember, if it was in LA or if I was on the road and I looked up on day   and I thought:" "Look at that!" "That´s not the flight path, man!" "That was a grid!" "A grid!" "A regular grid over the city and I couldn´t believe my eyes!" "Milky white clouds!" "Now it all seems very obvious." "Now the evidence of what we have on the ground with aluminum, with barium, strontium   and with that we see in the patents and what the geoengineers say, is going to happen." "For the average-day-joe, this is a slam dunk!" "This is a very delicate moment for the powers that be." "Because they are taking a covered-up operation like the "Tropospheric aerosol program" or chemtrails,   "Project Icharius", whatever ... It had many names over the years." "And they are making it overt into a geo-engineering scientific shield to deflect sunlight, because global warming is out of hand." "So, at this very moment the belly of the beast is right above us with no armor." "Whether people believe in chemtrails or not, the geoengineering should be scary enough." "And when people learn about geoengineering, chemtrails will then become apparent   because they are THE SAME!" "So, you are talking about GLOBAL conspiracy here?" "Geoengineers proposed doing this on a global level." "We're off to Redding, California." "This is the second step after the AAAS meeting." "We will see what we find." "We are out here in Northern California, at Dane Wigington´s house." "He owns over 2000 acres, overlooking Lake Shasta." "He told me about some of the challenges, that they are having up here." "Let´s go and talk to Dane." "We will see what´s going on, on his property." "We´ll see, what he is going through and also what action he is taking, based on the test results, that he has." "You know, I have a background in the energy fields." "I worked in the first solar plants in the continental U.S in the early 80ies." "My home was on the cover of the world´s largest renewable energy magazine." "So this is my background." "My goal has been to alert the public." "There is a mountain of toxic material falling on us - period!" "Before about 5 years ago, our skies were typically blue and now you see, it´s covered with lines and haze   and virtually nothing you see on the horizon, nothing you see in the sky above us is a natural cloud!" "It is virtually all the remnants of these aircraft lines, that you see fanning out, spreading into clouds ..." "artificial clouds, but ..." "The sky has a very dirty look to it." "It´s not the white cloud, blue sky, that we had only a few years ago." "But it looks like there´s some sort of massive industrial activity or forest fires burning over there." "We see that typically every night." "You see, even down to ground level the clarity drops off significantly and   we don´t see that, all except for the days, we have these long, lingering trails that   spread and cover the whole sky." "And on certain days, you can see these trails actually dropping vertically like a veil." "We assume the particulates are descending and we have the test to prove, that we are being inundated with levels of aluminum in particulates   that are literally tens of thousands of times, what are already considered high." "So, we are not talking about exposure to a slight percentage higher of these toxic materials." "We are talking about quantities, for example off the side of Mt." "Shasta ..." "If you can pan back" " That´s a landmark in Northern California, considered to be a pristine water source." "Aluminum" " Our snow sample of the side of Mt." "Shasta tested 61,000 parts per billion." "This is just ordinary snow water." "And people are drinking this stuff, when they are hiking on the mountain." "And remember:" "Government action is required at a 1,000." "This is 61 times over the government limit and our hikers are drinking this poisonous water   on Mt." "Shasta Mountain itself." "Barium: 83, Strontium: 383" "So this summer people, the people climbing, are drinking poison." "Basically!" "I certainly wouldn´t want to drink 61,000 micrograms per liter of aluminum." "And again: we have already seen in 5 years soil pHs in this area, that have excalated 10 to 12 times and we can prove that conclusively." "This is not speculation!" "We can prove conclusively, that these metals have been in the rain." "We have duplicate samples." "Bachelor of Science in Forestry, International School of Forestry in Missoula,   Masters in Zoology, specialized in aquatics,   35 years with the US Forest Service as a wildlife biologist,   and before that several years with the USDA Soil Conservation Service as a soil conservationist." "I also have run the botany programs, range and grazing programs   and I continue that." "Today, right now I do a lot of Master Gardener consulation work." "When I started this garden back in about 2005 or so   pH here was 5.5, 5.6!" "This is the old soil survey of the county." "You can look at the page right here ..." "This is my soil right here." "It´s at deeds 125, 126, here at my house." "And here, the soil reaction ..." "pH should be between 4.5 and 6.0." "And over there in the pure mud it´s even a little darker." "It´s 6.8 right there." "And what can this do to plant life in eco-systems?" "Well, you hollow one of these things out and you start looking at the little   little things that are crawling around the soil." "A lot of times they aren´t there any more!" "The little soil arthropods, that you can barely see on a microscope ..." "You can actually see movement with this ... little, tiny, tiny, tiny microscopic   look like little moving pieces of dust." "Those start to go away!" "They are not gone entirely, but they start to go away." "This is black oak acorns ..." "This is pieces of cedar wood ..." "You know, come of, folks!" "This should be very acid and I´m getting 10 times higher than expected?" "There´s something really wrong here!" " You can see all those reports." "Lots of them." " I have over 20 reports here." " Well, at least 20." "I´d say, it be closer to 30 ..." "All revealing dangerous amounts of aluminum ... and barium!" "The science is there, that something funny is happening   and the naysayers say:" ""Well, so what?" "Isn´t neutral good?"" " Well, NO!" "Neutral is not good!" "Neutral is not good, if your soil is supposed to be 5.6, it should stay 5.6, if you want the forest to be healthy   and if you want to grow a good garden, you have to keep your pH around 6.0, 6.5." "I think, that we just need to wake up and just look at what´s happening,   because we can´t just ignore it, because it´s going to get worse and worse,   if we just keep ignoring it and pushing it away like:" "Oh, that´s nothing!" "There was mason jars and they were brand new, sterilized, and that´s what we catched the rain in." "And there was a HEPA filter, that we tested the air with." "Okay, so you caught rain and then you basically filtered air." "What did you find?" "Aluminum and barium." "Here´s another test, that´s revealing 375,000 parts per million aluminum." "Barium at 3,090, Strontium at 345." "Yeah, that´s from a lined pond." "With EPDM fish save pond liner." "There´s no chemicals, manufacturing materials at all in that pond liner, that´s available to the aquatic life." "It´s designed for that purpose." "The well that feeds this pond has been tested and re-tested." "Indeed, no detectable aluminum" " Zero!" "The only other place this pond can receive water is rainfall." "We are located on a filtered forest hilltop." "Miles and miles and miles away from any industry, highway and so forth." "After several heavy spray days, there was a film, that we would see form on the surface of the water." "Then we tested that crust and it was: aluminum and barium!" "After a year and a half´s accumulation, had had 375,000 parts per billion aluminum in it." "It´s literally toxic!" "We can say conclusively, that what we see in the sky matches expressly, what´s outlined in numerous patents   and the materials on the ground match those patents." "This material was NOT there 5 years ago." "It is a recent phenomenon, in the quantities it´s in." "It has excalated in some cases 50,000 percent in 5 years, in the case of aluminum." "From original baseline reading of 7 parts per billion, which was already high, it has excalated up to 50,000 percent in 5 years." "We have seen profound changes in that time!" "Dr. Lennard Thyme, PhD in Chemistry, I cross-checked with him and he says the oxides of aluminum, barium and strontium will drive your pH   from an acid soil like this up into the neutral." "There´s no question about it!" " And that´s exactly..." " That´s exactly what you see happening!" " Whow..." "I have a doctor in Inorganic Chemistry from Oregon State University,   in which I was working with different metals and oxidation states." "And then did a post-doctorate work at Brandeis (University),   where I was working stabilizing off-oxidation states of different metals." "The goal is to sort of figure out how everything fits in the dynamic equilibrium of life." "I was working with Francis up in Mt." "Shasta, and he showed me some rain water analyses, that had to do with levels of aluminum, strontium and barium in the atmosphere." "So I feel the major toxin in these chemtrails is the aluminum." "And from the levels we are looking in on Mt." "Shasta, this is totally, totally unacceptable!" "When you get to metals in biological systems, you´re no longer talking about the bulk aluminum, that people think about,   when they are using" "drinking from soda-pop cans an that." "So, once it gets to the aluminum oxide stage it just forms a plaque within your arteries and SHUTS DOWN LIFE!" "When you take elements, that normally aren´t out in the environment and you start putting them in the environment, it raises some serious red flags." "Aluminum is a very specific nasty in biological systems." "It takes that site and it never lets go and it shuts down the site, and that´s it!" "And so, as you accumulate aluminum over time, it causes major neurological damage,   because it ends up as aluminium oxide that´s essentially stuck in place and can´t be flushed out by normal systems." "At the core of everyones condition, there´s always some level of toxins   and aluminum is known to have cancer-causing effects." "The half-live is decades!" "I think, that we should be working on taking more of these toxins out of your environment, instead of adding more toxins in." "It is very concerning, that if we add more toxins to our environment, that we'll be increasing the rates and risks of cancers." "Even one patient is not worth it." "So sad, that they would consider putting aluminum in our environment to affect something, when they could be causing so much more damage." "Where ever the material is coming from   it is there!" "The amount of metal still falling on us cannot be disputed." "Absolutely, this is not speculation." "The amount of metal in the last 4 years, as I said, have increased to a degree of thousands of times and   California Air Quality Resources Board has studied the aerosols from China." "These metals are not amongst them." "Mike, the reason I have chosen to focus so primarily on this issue,   is, I feel all other issues are secondary." "What could be a greater priority, than not being able to walk out of your door   and taking a breath of air without sucking up heavy metals?" "If our land base is being poisoned, if your waters are being toxified   what will we have left to work with?" "Whatever we choose to focus our time and energy on   whatever our political beliefs, that this is a common ground for all of us." "We must have air that we can breathe, that´s not full of toxic chemicals and metals." "We must have water, that´s not complely laden with whatever is being emitted from these aircraft." "People stopped to consider, that the atmosphere is as thin as a layer of paint on a basketball." "It´s an extremely thin layer, that allows life to exist on this planet." "To simply treat it as a physics lab and experiment with it, until it is broken beyond repair   is folly of unbelievable proportion." "And if people understood, that this sort of experimentation   not only IS going on, but HAS BEEN going on for a very, very long time   going back 50 years, there has been countless climate manipulation-, weather modification programs, the vast majority of the public is completely unaware of." "And if they think, that this is not true, that certainly..." "that somehow, they would have known, if it was occuring  I would ask them to look at things like "Agent Orange" and the things, that governments do, because they can!" "Because there´s no one to stop them." "Because they have these huge military machines, that want to control everything and in fact   the government´s own document, perhaps you may have seen,   it´s available to anyone online, is called "Owning the weather"!" "An expressed goal of our government." "And not just our government." "He told the Associated Press, that the american government has created "weather-tampering techniques"   so that the "new world order" will be able to starve millions of americans and to control the rest." "There is weather control techniques..." "No.1: the entire patents on equipment..." "No.2:" "Senator Clayborne Pell´s complete statement and story of his own, that not only does it exists,   but that we even utilized it as far back as the Vietnam war." " We are gonna do, what we can." " Let´s see what we can do!" "You´ve got the scientists behind you." "Scientists are with you!" "So at least THIS scientist is with you!" " I may not have a million dollar budget, but I got enough to show, that something is dreadfully wrong." " All right!" "Arizona will be this Monday the 21st..." "Senator Johnson up in Show Low..." "so we will gonna be in the car for a long time ..." " Well, it is such a pleasure to meet you!" " You know what!" "We love it." "It´s so private, its so quiet and peaceful." "Please come in." "My name is Karen Johnson." "I served in the Ariona State Legislature for 12 years." "I was in the House for 8 of those years   and in the Senate for 4 of those years." "When you see a plane fly overhead   and there´s a trail, that leaves the end of that plane   and it goes from one horizon all the way to the other, the plane flies across   and it begins to filter out and cover more and more of the sky in kind of ripples   it widens out and fills the whole sky!" "I mean, how can anybody think that that was the case?" "And then to live and to be underneath it and know that whatever is in that is falling down upon you   and upon your animals and upon the earth ... and ..." "I mean ..." "It´s frightening to me!" "And if people don´t start really waking up and facing the fact  that we have got people, that are doing terrible things to us   and we´d better wake up and fight back, NOW!" "I mean, I´m the mom of eleven kids." "I got 35 grandkids." "I mean, I have got a stake in this!" "I care about, what is gonna be left for my children!" "I care about and I´m extremely worried about what is gonna be left to them!" "Aluminum is toxic." "Then we know that it is accumulative." "And we know that we are getting more." "We are absorbing it in the air, we are drinking it with our water   so we are accumulating more." "So, the thought of   more aluminum being dispersed in our environment, in the way that you mentioned, is very frightening to us   and very disturbing to us." "Those of us, who have done any research on this, are really quite concerned, that we are ill-informed about this issue   and mostly that it´s being done." "Aluminum is toxic!" "We know that it is." "We can debate as to the amount of toxicity, that is gonna be disturbing the body,   but as far as really accepting the fact, that it´s accumulative   it´s synergistic." "Then we have to conclude, that it´s not a good idea   to put it in our atmosphere, especially when we know, we are get increased amounts and especially since we know   that the scientific communities around the world are pointing a finger at the heavy metal toxicities   at the toxicities, that we are absorbing in the day-to-day food, that we eat and the air that we breathe." "The concern is off the charts about why is this happening!" "Why is this being allowed to be sprayed continually all over the United States, all over the WORLD?" "Who is paying for this?" "I mean, the incidence of Alzheimer´s has just sky-rocketed,   which evidently has to do with an accumulation of aluminum in the brain cells." "I mean, I think, almost every family has been touched by a member, as they get older, having Alzheimer´s." "And it´s a horrible, it´s a horrible disease!" "And to say, that: "Well, this just came, because people drank soda-pop out of aluminum cans."" "You know, when my father passed away with Alzheimer´s and he didn´t ever drink soda-pop   you know, that explanation doesn´t ring true with me." "And so I´m wondering:" "How much did this chemtrail-spraying, back in the Illinois area, affect him?" "Our friend is a firefighter up in Pine, Arizona for 20 or 30 years,   says, that the wild-fires now, that they are fighting, are way beyond anything, they have seen before in intensity." "And when you look at the air samples and you see the fine particles of aluminum, which is very flammable,   and magnesium settling on the trees,   this is causing unprecedented savage wildfires." "But if you look at this, you can see." "These are parts per million." "They sent this to me and I found this to be extremely interesting, because we should have like 2 parts per million of aluminum in our air." "And this is saying that there's 39,000 parts of aluminum." "That´s astronomical!" "Barium is high!" "I mean, these are way off the charts   of what people should be breathing or that´s coming down on them." "And people wonder, why their health is deteriorating, why they are having to go to the emergency rooms." "Why they can´t breathe?" "Why they are getting Alzheimer´s?" "This has been planned!" "We have elites..." "I don´t know what you want to call them." ""One-Worlders", "Illuminati", I don´t know ..." "Whatever you want to call them." "These people, that don´t care about the average person!" "They only care about themselves, their greed, their power   and if they eliminate, you know, two-thirds, three-fourths of us from the planet   so much for the better for them!" "Because then, they don´t have so many people that they have to herd around and worry about." "So, this is a lot, what this is about!" "And this is very, very alarming and scary!" "I mean, where is this stuff coming from?" "... and WHY?" "Why is this kind of stuff being put out there?" "You know, I´ve heard different explanations about: "Oh, we need to cool the planet." and all this and that   but if people up there trying to cool the planet, why do they need all this kind of stuff ... in it?" "The explanations just never have really rang very true." "And as I´m setting up the equipment, she looked at me and she said: "All these trees here are dying!"" "... and I said:" "What?" "She says: "All these trees in here are dying!"" "So I thought, well, then I´m gonna test for aluminum, because that´s one of the key things in the programs we are talking about ... and titanium  and I took some of this bark sample and tested it and it came back positive with aluminum and titanium." "Then I started traveling around California, noticing the same thing." "In Lake Tahoe, there was a lot of the same type of bark all through Sacramento area and Davis   just about everywhere I went, I was noticing the silver white bark." "What I think is happening, is that these chemicals are getting down and destroying the roots   and then, as they come up, they are going out into the bark." "Those two right there, are the ones that are just ..." "It just hurts so bad, to see these two ..." "because just look how old and big they are!" "We probably lost 40 trees right here on our 10 acres." "Every week, every other weekend, we´d see another tree that was beginning to die." "And I mean, it´s just so sad!" "We just cry!" "And to think, that THAT might have something to do with it, along with the other explanations   would really, really, frust me!" "Everytime you lose a tree ..." "You know, it´s not good!" "It´s just sad!" "And there´s another one over here in this little group of trees here." "Don´t you feel better, when you stand up and fight, than if you crawl down in a little hole and goto sleep?" "You know, I mean ..." "MY GOSH, PEOPLE!" "Your families are out there, your children are out there  your grand children!" "I mean..." "YOU´VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP!" "My greatest hope is to get people to question ..." "and hey, if they don´t wake up while we are there, I´m hoping to plant some seeds." "We are going to the most beautiful place on the planet:" "Hawaii   to see what´s going on and collect some data." "Thank you for having flown with us." "Hope you enjoyed the trip." "Have a great vacation, or "welcome home", if you are lucky enough to live here." "Thank you!" "The whole valley is autarchic (sic)." "So it´s either solar, wind or generators." " Look at this, man!" " Yeah, the mind can´t even conceive of a dream like this here." " Right!" "Even coming here, one would never think, that here in paradise, that it´s getting destroyed." "And they do it "island-style"." "They do it off the island, right?" "They do it off the island ..." "So they don´t ... you know ..." "you don´t see the chemtrail airplanes." "The theory is, that they are spraying off-shore and ..." " ... and it´s coming in on us!" " ... and it´s COMING IN!" "Now, these are coming from the west." "They are also spraying on both sides, today." "A lot of this stuff is actually chemtrails coming this direction." "This material ... it´s blocking!" "We should be able to see to the horizon   where the earth curves." "We are high enough and we have the ocean, right?" "We should be able to see to Big Island." "It´s only 30 miles away!" "And you can see, it´s not a blue sky behind it." "That´s the key." "It´s all ... you know ..." "... it has that kind of weird looking blue   like silver-blue, I call it." "And this is a nice day!" "You know, there´s no more blue sky." "We are gonna look at the stars tonight." "It´s like ..." "You´ll see." "You can COUNT them!" "There´s so few stars at night now!" "There should be hundreds of thousands of stars and I can COUNT the stars!" "There´s like one here, one here..." "... one planet here, it´s like ..." "You might see ... some nights you see a hundred, some nights you see TEN!" "This is what concerns me." "This kind of stuff right here." " It´s just SOFT!" " Okay ..." "This just comes right off!" "This bark ... that´s not natural!" "I have seen hundreds of thousands of coconuts and I´ve never seen ... it falling apart like that!" "Look at this, you guys!" "I´ve never seen anything like this!" "I used to trim trees all the time on Big Island." "I´ve never seen anything like THAT." "That´s why I´m concerned." "Not an easy task, that you have here on the island." "I could see the skepticism, because it is so far beyond anybody's reality." "It is amazing!" "It is amazing to not try to look through somebody else´s eyes." "In my eyes, I can see this, so ..." "It´s like night and day." "And other people just ..." "The illusion is just SO deep!" "What do you think would happen, if everybody awakened to   what was going on and what the plans were   of geo-engineers?" "I think ..." "I think, they would have a revolution in Hawaii." "If people really understood, what was going on ..." "What´s your concern, for ..." "I know, that you love the land here ..." "What do you ... what´s your concern   about chemtrails?" "Well, that we won´t be able to live here and grow our own food   and that our health is going to being compromized." " Do you think it already has been?" " YES!" "The thing is, that they are doing it every day here ... every day!" "So it´s hammering, hammering, hammering ..." "... micro-doses every day!" "And then, of course, it´s getting into the environment and of course, it´s weakening the plants." "And it takes a couple of years for this   to actually weaken the plants   so we need ..." "We are asking for GMO taro." "We are asking for GMO papaya   because we can´t grow our natural seeds!" "We can´t be sustainable!" "We can´t truly, you know,   be here as God created us to be." "And, so my friend convinced me to do a hair-analysis for my daughter." "So I went ahead and cut close to her scalp and got some really recently grown hair and sent it in." "I was just sure, that my daughter´s hair was gonna be so clean with the livestyle that we live   and then behold, it came back and and her levels were really high on aluminum." "This is the chart here." "This is the reference range and this is where my daughter is: 23.1 aluminum." "The skies are covered with a white mist and I look up at night and I don´t see the deep dense stars, that I used to and I can´t help   that this obviously has something to do with my daughters health." "I don´t know where else these heavy metals are coming from." " I mean, look how old she is." "She has been isolated here." " Here!" " and she is ..." "Anybody looking at the situation would be like:" "This is paradise!" " This child should be like super-human ..." " An organic farm ..." " And here you are, getting all this heavy metal stuff!" "She has the highest level of aluminum in the chart   and never had a vaccine either." "Folks, these people are playing god!" "They are playing god and manipulating the weather   and they are spraying stuff into the sky!" "They are trying to geo-engineer EVERYTHING, including your plants and trees and your ocean!" "Well, tonight we are just hoping that, instead of not looking at it   you´ll start looking into it." "Because I really believe, from the bottom of my heart, that we are in a real crisis!" "I really do!" "They are proposing dumping 10 to 20 million tons of aluminum into the upper atmosphere." "What does aluminum do?" "It changes the pH of soils,   which is toxic to plant life!" "Also it´s very toxic to human health!" "Are they doing it?" "Well, let me tell you about my expericence and what we found:" "We have much evidence, that not only suggests,   but I believe proves, that they are happening." "And as I promised, we are joined right now by a very special guest:" "Michael J. Murphy ... currently on location in Hawaii." "He is working on a documentary film called:" ""What in the world are they spraying?"" "Michael, welcome to the program!" "Great to speak with you today!" "I have a friend, who recently ..." "He, he´s always looking at things from a different perspective." "He´s a bit ... he´s a bit of a ..." "a conspiracy theorist, you know,   and he says that, whenever the president comes to L.A., there´s no spraying that week." "Could you have a better place for an interview?" "I mean, look!" "(laughs)" "This is being done!" "Over our farms and over our things." "So, basically they wanna eliminate our ability   to eat organic food, clean food, have clean water   so, in some ways it sounds to me like an, you know   again, it´s just a projection   but it sounds to me, like it is control!" ""How do we control the masses?"" " How can aluminum be good for you in any ..." " And what was the second chemical, you mentioned?" " It´s barium ..." " Barium and aluminum." "Obviously those are toxic to   to EVERYTHING!" " to human health ..." " human health, to farms, to animals, to EVERYTHING!" " 61,000 parts per billion ..." " And there should be a government alert at 1,000?" "At 1,000!" "People are drinking this!" "People that climb the mountain ..." "They are drinking that snow." "It´s poison!" " Oh, my God!" "That´s SO disgusting!" " So, that´s 60,000 times above regulation?" " Exactly!" " 60,000 times above regulation ..." "And I've talked to friends in L.A., ..." ""Well, that's just ice!" "That´s just condensation."" "And I´m like:" "You can talk to a second grader:" "ice doesn´t float in the sky and spread out that way!" "You are not an expert, but you are a concerned citizen, who said: "Wait a second, I wanna..."" "You are doing the research and that´s what we need to do as americans   and say: "You know what?" "I wanna know, what´s going on!"" "I wanna know, what the FDA is doing to my food." "I wanna know, that the government is doing with my air, my water and the soil!" "You know, it´s just great what you are doing and I just..." "My kudos to you, for bringing light to this subject!" "Put all of the theories aside." "Just what geoengineers are proposing, and what´s being found is scary enough!" " So, we can just adress that!" " And I encourage more people to just step up and ask questions ... and do what he is doing!" "So thank you, Michael, very, very much!" "Aerosol spraying of aluminum affects everywhere." "We have a beautiful tropical climate, which I believe, might be in jeopardy." "So, we wanted to, not only come in and bring the message of what people were finding around the world   but encourage people to test for the aliminum, strontium, barium." "Essentially, I think, it was an effective trip." "I saw a lot of people here in Hawaii, in Maui, awake and not only curious, but willing to look into this deeper ... and that´s my only hope." "This is one of the boldest moves, I think, from Ed Griffin ... yet!" "This is THE taboo-topic, that nobody is supposed to talk about   and that is aerosol spraying!" "Now we have gotten tons of documented proof of errant aerosol spraying." "It just blows my mind,   that the whole essence of humanity has always been to look up into the sky and ask:" "WHY?" "No!" "There are no limitations!" "There is endless space and endless universe!" "Now, in the 21st century ..." "... we are not allowed to do that!" "Anyone who looks up and sees the giant grids and Xs in the sky   they weren´t a part of our existence, just until a decade or two ago   is somehow called a "kook"!" "And the people, that are the best and biggest proponents for the revolution for liberty   whey don´t want you to talk about it, because you could discredit them!" "It seems to be an industry, that is being build up   to milk the tax-payers, by undergoing some kind of a giant spraying, global spraying program   to make all kinds of money on the project   and they don´t seem to care really, what effect it has." "They are not trying to experiment, to see if humans can survive it or anything like that." "They just want to get this stuff up,   THEN, we discover, as we are going further down the line   that there are companies generating genetically modified organisms, seeds   modified seed crops, that are being engineered   to resist the aluminum in the soil." "A lot of crops won´t grow in that." "So now, after they messed up the soil   all the farmers are gonna have to go back and   buy seeds, that have been genetically engineered to resist the aluminum, that has been put into the soil   and all of a sudden mankind is completely dependent upon these companies like Monsanto and other giant agricultural firms." "You can´t even grow natural seeds any more!" "And we are looking at that!" "It´s a shocking thing!" "I hope, we don´t find that that´s true,   but all the arrows right now, are pointing in that direction!" "We get into a cost/benefit-analysis here, because there´s also H.A.A.R.P. could be involved in this ..." "(H.A.A.R.P. = High Active Auroral Research Program) ... geo-engineering, as you guys mentioned, which is documented heavily   in Dennis Kucinich´s bill, that is the "Space Preservation Act"   which, by the way, I don´t think, got though Congress." "And then Key Bail-out, as we call her here, Kay Bailey Hutchinson   also put together some legislation in order to qualify geoengineering   which again, is supposed to save us all from global warming." "But it is cost/benefit-analysis, because they can benefit on so many different levels!" " Ed, that´s how they do with everything, isn´t it?" " That´s right!" "There´s an old adage, that if you just "Follow the dollar, follow the buck!", you usually get to the source of the problem." "And it looks to me, like there´s a tremendously profitable industry being build up right now   around this concept of geoengineering or weather-modification or reducing global warming   and all of these other things, that can be sold fairly easily to an unsuspecting public." ""Oh, that´s good!" "We don´t want global warming, you know!"" "And so they put up with this." "And they don´t question, they don´t criticize   but behind the scenes, you see a whole industry being build up   which is, as I say, tremendously profitable   and the money for all of that, is coming from the tax-payers!" "And (laughs) ..." "It´s a scam!" "That´s basically, what it is!" "We are just focusing on the one area, that is real easy to prove:" "There´s no speculation in it, in the area that we are going into." "They definitely ARE doing this geo-engineering." "They definitely ARE talking about it." "They are working up formulas for it." "They are putting together strategies for it." "They got funding for it." "Everything is in place." "We don´t even have to go into those other areas to make the case." "Okay, let them believe that." "But at least they must understand that there´s no question, that they are taking about it and planning to do it." "And so, shouldn´t they be equally alarmed, about what they are going to do?" "It can be shown, that these barium and aluminum and some of these other toxic metals are very destructive to the planet and destructive to human health." "Isn´t that enough?" "I mean, how many issues do we need to crank into this?" "And so, you know..." "If you are gonna kill the planet and kill the population, do we need any other reason to be alarmed?" ""What in the world are they spraying?" Thank God, people are asking this question!" "That´s all we want!" "We just wanna be able to ask these questions!" "Our good friend, G. Edward Griffin." "All these here, Mike Murphy and Paul Wittenberger   doing this great effort with your help." "This is a community effort to get people REAL information." ""What in the world are they spraying?" Any final quick comments, before we are out of time?" "And my final thought is, that we ask the final question: "What in the world are they spraying?"" "And we now KNOW, what it is!" "And folks, you are not gonna like it!" "I´m Peter Vereeke." "I´m from Belgium." "I´m 54 years old." "I can´t believe it myself." "I´m a very happy and grateful person." "We are doing the job of the Police, the Justice Department or the Environmental Department should have been doing." " And it´s really essential that it´s going to be a grass-roots revolution." " I think so!" " ..., because we are not fighting AGAINST, but FOR!" " Yes!" "We are fighting FOR!" "I was in the council for about 25 years and also a period as the mayor." "So, from that moment on - 10 years ago - everything started to change." "I started to get a picture of what is really going on!" "And it became crystal-clear to me that we - humankind -   have been manipulated and dominated and exploited   for centuries!" "So, and this chemtrail-phenomenon made me angry, because I was so helpless." "You can decide, what food you gonna to eat,   what you gonna smoke, what water you are gonna drink ..." "What kind of life you are gonna lead   but not with this phenomenon." "Then you are just a victim!" "It´s only a game!" "And there have to be good guys, and there have to be bad guys." "And luckily we are in the position to be able to play the role of the good guy   who has the chance and the opportunity to overcome!" "The three days we shared with them, my heard just dropped, because it was such a beautiful way to live." " And, such a peaceful way to live." "I left thinking, what´s this going to be like, in 10 years?" "Is everything gonna be killed off on their property?" "And if it is, how are they gonna get their food source?" "Are they gonna have to take a class, you know, and get certified by a company XYZ?" "And what are the requirements for that?" "And that really is the end of freedom!" "I´m concerned about that." "I definitely ..." "I really am!" "I learned to say: "Everything is now, as it has to be now..."" ""... and everything is going to be OK!"" " It´s gonna be all right." " It´s gonna be OK." " Yes!" "I have this deep feeling, that in the end, we will prevail   because we have the right on our side." "The cosmos is helping us!" "And I have this strong feeling, that we are being supported by entities   and by forces, we can´t even imagine!" "Here, for the first time, we have this scientific proof,   that we ARE being sprayed." "We are being sprayed!" "And it´s incredible, and it´s hard to believe   but we are being sprayed!" "I think, at this moment, to stop ... is NOT AN OPTION!" "Once you know it, and once you have a tool like this and an opportunity like this   that the issue of chemtrails or persistent jet-contrails or whatever name you use for it   that this phenomenon is recognized as being REAL!" "Publicly debated!" "In the context of geoengineering, I think it´s HIGH NOON to bring this to the public." "This is what the sky is supposed to look like." "These are old paintings." "We forgot this ..." "I´m afraid." "In the years, that I have been a medical research journalist   I have looked at many, many things, and   I found the same three issues, in whatever I´m looking at." "And that is, that we are being dumbed down,   we are being made sicker   and we are being made infertile." "Citized gathered from around the world in Belgium, for the first international Chemtrails-Symposium." "The event attracted leading professionals, politicians and activists   who discussed the health-, environmental- and social implications of these programs." "Today it´s only going about   facts, documents, figures, patents, licences   everything, that bring´s us to the truth." "We have no other weapon against this vast complex   than exposing and bringing their dark works in the light of the truth." "We have to hope, that by our efforts more and more people will become aware   of the fact, that we are deceived by our leaders." "So today, we as a family   join forces with the people, who come to make known to the world, that chemtrails are not a conspiracy theory   but a conspiracy FACT!" "From the Technical University Delft, in the Netherlands, ..." "Ladies and Gentleman, please welcome:" "Coen Vermeeren!" "I´m Coen Vermeeren." "I´m an university professor of Delft University of Technology." "Usually people are with their heads to the ground   in their own two-dimensional space and they don´t look up." "If you do, you see more and more space like this." "And it worried me, too." "I have no explanations to our students about these phenomenon." "And then I studied it myself and I found out, that I couldn´t give them the answer, that they wanted." "Because I think, that the phenomenon is NOT NATURAL!" "Is not natural what is happening." "And the explanations, that are given to us, are not enough for me." "If you look at them, from a scientific point of view, the first thing a scientist does, is trying to explain something." "Because I am smart, and my students are not as smart yet,   so I had to give them answers to questions." "But if you ask most scientists honestly, they cannot answer all your questions." "If people are using climate control all over our heads,  , I wanna know about it!" "I want to know the consequences." "I want to know the health impacts." "I want to know everything!" "I need, as a teacher in my university, to give answers to my students." "And they have good questions   and I don´t have the answers ..." " ... and I want to know!" " Excellent!" "And we should discuss this!" "Ladies and gentleman!" "For all of you in the auditorium and for all of the world:" "Michael Murphy!" "Well, thank you very much!" "It´s definitely an honor to be here in Belgium!" "The people, who are in power, control everything!" "They control the markets, they control us   and now they are even controlling the weather!" "And they can use that for warfare applications." "The one thing that they cannot control   is what God had originally made:" "And that´s natural, organic seeds." "This is called the "Hegelian Dialectic"." "It´s called:" "Problem" " Reaction" " Solution" "The problem here is massive amouts of aluminum." "Things starting to die." "The solution is companies X, that says: "Hey man!" "You are not getting yields on your crop!"" ""Everything is dying!"" ""But I got the solution!" "I got a seed, that will grow in this environment!"" ""Only problem is:" "Now you have start buying from ME!"" "We are all concerned, that maybe part of this agenda could be to kill off anything that is natural and organic ..." "and re-engineer it!" "... with aluminum-resistent GMO seeds." "Many may know, we just got back from a week of filming in Hawaii   and it was an incredible trip." "A big concern for the people there is, they are beginning to see softening of the coconut trees." "But their concern is, that these programs may again be part of a broader agenda   to destroy anything that´s natural and organic." "So that the corporate redesigned GMO foods might be the only thing, only source of food for people." "I didn´t anticipate SO many people, young and old, were interested in this phenomenon   and are concerned about it." "And excpecially like the address, that the young girl gave today   only 17 and already making an address to the audience." "That is incredible!" "My name is Sophia Xenidis." "I am 17 years old." "It is quite scary to know, that the air we breathe is NOT what it supposed to be." "That the food we eat, and the water we drink contains traces of those substances   which are sprayed out over all of us, as though we were poisoned like insects." "The feelings, that this is causing me are feelings of deep anger and rage." "I don´t want to be poisoned!" "I don´t want to be infected with cancer!" "And I´m just so angry, that this global poisoning can be going on, on such a massive scale   and not enough is being done to stop this crime." "A clear answer to one question:" "Are we being sprayed?" "Have we been sprayed?" "And is it their intention to spray again and again?" "What are we going to do about this?" "How are we going to deal with it?" "How are we going to stop it?" "I know the answer!" "There is only one person, who can stop it, and you know it:" "YOU ARE!" "YOU ARE!" "The person, the one, you have been waiting for." "We are magnificent, beautiful, godlike, divine human beings!" "Ladies and gentleman!" "Sisters and brothers in this auditorium and in the whole world ..." "Thank you so very much for being present with us!" "And for now, please enjoy this anthem." "Hey!" "Good to see you!" "Come on in!" "Anyway, I´m glad, that the weather´s been good for you, fellows, so far." "Just think, if we were doing this in the winter time." "If you are going to Washington DC, you might run into snow!" " Thank God, we are not!" " That´s right!" "You know, it´s interesting, because of the different weather modification programs ..." "There´s something like, I think, quite around 32 in the continental U.S. alone going on!" "So, the theory is, that geo-engineering IS in part weather modification." "You know, Mike, that´s a very good point!" "There are so many subsets connected with this issues of geo-engineering." "People are writing to us all the time   with information about the connection to global warming, the connection to weather modification ..." "Some people think, there´s a connection with Morgellons disease ..." "Others think it´s kind of a means of transmitting electro-magnetic impulses   from the H.A.A.R.P. antenna system, up in Alaska and Siberia." "You get your head spinning and each area, I think, is worthy of investigation, but   we have so little time!" "I think, it´s wise for us to just stay focused on just the air spraying   and the toxic effect of these chemicals, and the destruction of the planet, and the damage to human health!" "What more do you need than THAT, to convince people, that we have to put a stop it?" "So, to stay focused, I think, is our mission on this one." "Jeremy, we had an idea!" "We know, that you know the political system real well." "Our idea was this:" "We have a ton of data and information, that we´ve collected throughout our travels." "You know, we really think a good way to end the film, would be addressing this   to elected officials, some of the senators." "So, we were wondering this:" "If you might be able to come and kind of help us out   and perhaps, show us the way, in how to get this done politically." "It sounds like a very good idea   and I'll also see, who to get to in terms of researching who we should really focus on talking to about this." "At the very least, if we could make it   make it impossible for them to claim, that they don´t know anything about this,   to strip away the plausible deniability, that they haven´t heard of the data, that points to geoengineering   stratospheric aerosol operation already going on." "At the very least, it should be very interesting, because "district of criminality"..." "... put some people on alert." "Yeah, you have a lot of enemies in Washington." "That´s where all the power comes together and the money, you know ..." "So, there are people there, I´m sure, that just don´t want us to do this job." "But I´m glad, you are going   and you´ll find out!" "We took the data to Washington D.C. There we presented our elected officials with the following letter:" "According to the 5th Article of the Bill of Rights   amending the Constitution of the United States of America ..." "No person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law." "But the daily spraying is depriving ALL persons living in the United States of life, health, liberty and integrity   of our common life and property without due process of law." "As a represantive of the people of the United States of America   we insist, that you do everything in your power to protect us and immediately put a stop to geoengineering spraying at once!" "There exists NO justification, legal or otherwise, to poison the planet and it´s inhabitants." "Now, suppose that space aliens arrived on ... maybe they're going to land at the UN headquarters, down the road here ..." "or maybe they´d pick a smarter spot, but   suppose, they arrive and the give you a box." "And the box has two knobs:" "One knob is the knob for controlling global temperature,   maybe another knob is a knob for controlling CO² concentrations ..." "You might imagine, that we would fight wars over that box,   because we have NO WAY to agree about, where to set the knobs." "No global governance, and different people will have different places they want it set." "Solar engineering is like chemotherapy:" "No one wants it!" "But we all want the ability to do chemo and to understand it´s risks,   should we find yourselfs with dangerous cancer." " How long does it last up there?" " The lifetimes or years?" " What?" " Years, couple of years ..." " And then it what?" "Precipitates out?" " Yeah, that´s correct." " No toxic side effects, that you know of?" " The thing we always wander about is the unknown unknown." " Yeah." "So if you're thinking about saving acidification, it's clear that's not a problem." "There´s several studies, that show that." "But of course, the concern here is, with so little research,   that maybe some unknown unknown, that comes out of left field, that bites us." "My name is Mike Murphy." "I´m a film-maker from Los Angeles." "We are covering an issue called geo-engineering." "We have a very quick question about the issue of geoengineering ..." "I´m afraid, I don´t know what you are talking about ..." "We were wondering, if you are supportive of geoengineers´ proposals   of spraying 10 to 20 millon tons of aluminum into the atmosphere?" " I should really get a briefing paper on it, before I issue an opinion." " Oh, not a problem!" "Are you aware of the issue?" " Not, completely ..." " At all?" " No" " Okay ..." "Here you have a letter from constituents, and people have concerns!" " What ... are you ..." " We're making a documentary about the proceedings." " I don´t know." "You guys have credentials to be here?" " Yes!" "Yes we do!" "We passed through security as well." " ... endowed by our Creator ..." " I don´t think so!" " Please, don´t touch me." "Please, don´t... don´t touch me." " You´re just ... you are lying!" " No, I'm not." "What did I, what did we lie about?" " No, ... (unintelligible) ..." " What are we lying about?" "That was a little unusual, huh?" " I haven´t heard that, no." " Okay" "And it appears, that these programs have already been deployed ..." "I haven´t looked at that proposal, and so ... you know   why don´t you let me review it?" " I can do that!" "Are you aware ..." " Actually, I gotta go ..." " Can we talk to you?" " Yeah?" "..." "No ..." " Let me go ahead and get that." "We will take a look at this ..." " I will take a look at this ... and I will act accordingly." " General!" " This program ... this openly covert program of the aerosol spraying, stratospheric aerosol spraying, geoengineering ..." " What?" "... using tons of aluminum spraying it up in the sky." " I have no idea what you are talking about!" " Okay." " It´s commonly called "chemtrails", Sir..." " (mumbles)" " When you were the head of NIMA, did you see the aerosol trails?" " No." " Mike Murphy, film-maker from from Los Angeles ..." " Hi, Sir." " We are covering an issue called geoengineering   and wanted to know, if you are supportive of geoengineers´ proposals?" " Congressman?" " Hey, guys ..." " We wanted to know, if you are supportive of geoengineers´ proposals   which is dumping 10 to 20 million tons of aluminum into the atmosphere?" " I´m not familiar with that." " Pardon?" " I´m not familiar with, what you are talking about." " Okay, uhm ..." " Could you make an appointment with my office?" " I am not supportive, uh ..." "I haven´t looked at it ... close." " I don´t ..." " Have you heard of the issue, because it´s becoming   main stream and public and there are actually congressional committees, which are being formed to talk about these programs." "Uh ..." "I think, if we drop anything into the atmosphere, we should know prior to, the effect of that, right?" " Yes!" " And we don´t have the knowledge as to what the effect would be, that we shouldn´t do it." "I think, there are 4 different options for thinking about deployment of geoengineering." "The first one would we:" "We just ban it!" "I would argue, that one does not want to get   too firm a restriction in place on small scale studies early on   because it will tie the science´s hands." "I think, what the science community ought to be trying to do is, say, you do small scale stuff inside this ... space   and it´s a scientific question, what that space ought to be ..." "There shouldn´t be a lot of oversight and restriction ..." " Congressman?" "Excuse me..." "Hi, I´m Mike Murphy from L.A., covering an issue called geoengineering ..." "These guys are running from the geo-engineering issue." "I wonder why?" " I'd have to talk to my staff." "I don't know what the details are." " Has anyone made you aware of the issue?" " Or..." "Sir?" "Congressmen, did anyone talk to you about the issue of geoengineering, last November?" "Are you a supporter of those proposals?" "We would love to give you a paper." " Which?" " Geoengineering?" "You know nothing about the geoengineering issue?" "No, never heard of it." "It's nothing, I've ever heard anything about." "When we looked up in the air today outside, you see, we saw this stuff going on." " Have you ever heard of geoengineering?" " No." "The proposals to shoot 10 million tons of metals into the air." "This committee in science and technology covered it for the first time ... no?" " No, never heard of it." " So, we are very concerned ..." " Hi, how are you doing?" "I´m fine." " So, what?" " We spoke with congresswoman Watson´s office   and her press secretary, Mrs. White, was familiar with Representative Dennis Kucinich´s "Space Preservation Act"   which mentioned chemtrails and the weaponization of the atmosphere and space   and then it was pressured to be taken of the bill." "... did you see the aerosol spraying going on today over the capitol?" " Congressman?" " I´ll get to you ..." "Geoengineering carries with it a tremendous range of uncertainties, ethical and political concerns   and the potential for catastrophic environmental side effects." "He is not one to do interviews very often, so ..." " ... not unless we usually really pressure him into it ..." " Okay, so ..." " So, don´t ... don´t hold your breath." "As chairman of the committee of jurisdiction   I feel responibility to begin a public dialogue and develop a record on geoengineering." "We wanna know, if you are supportive of their measures by spraying 10 to 20 million tons of aluminum ..." " No!" " ... into the atmosphere?" " No!" "I think we have to do more research." " Okay." "And about the issue of current deployment." "There´s literally a mountain of evidence that, many people believe, proves the deployment of these programs?" " Any knowledge of that?" " No." "There´s surely not a mountain of evidence." "But I do support research into the geoengineering and I also support looking into the international governance of that." "Anybody who had studied it, knows that ..." "I think, that it´s a radical proposal and I hope, we don´t have to use it   but there may come that point in time, when we do." "Now, if we could provide you the evidence, that suggests, that these programs ARE and HAVE been ongoing   would you be willing to address this publicly?" "We have had about 3, 4 meeting .. uhh ... hearings on it." "We have addressed it publicly." "Well, not about the proposals, but about the current deployment of these programs." "I don´t support the current deployment." "I think, we need to have more research." "If they have consequences, that go beyond one nation   so I think we need to look into the governance of that." "Governance is not simply an issue of deployment, but governance BEFORE deployment   in terms, particularly of large scale scientific field work." "I concede that, on this subject and in general, it´s not popular to talk about global rules." "And, when these people started talking about the need for UN Security Council oversight,   a super-national environmental security enforcement, with a strong mandate by the UN ..." "It really is clear, that they're looking for a global power behind the manipulation of the environment." "But I do think, it needs to be sort of an international kind of treaty, that does tie and bind all nations into a common fate." "It is a common fate ." "Unfortunately it´s not just big governments, who could do this." "It is small governments." "It is ... billionaires   probably, who will go "I'm going to save the world all by myself and I won't bother to mention it."" "How do we decide, when there´s a planetary emergency?" "Who´s hand is on the thermostat?" "How do we decide when to start?" "There´s no way to do that right now." "And what if we do start doing it and then by some problem with the technology or with the will, that we can no longer do it?" "In a year or two the aerosols will come out of the atmosphere and temperatures will shoot up at a rate much faster, than it´s going up now." "It´s the rate of change, that´s hard for us to adapt to." "So, once we started, we will be sort of locked in doing it for a long, long time   and with basically no end in sight." "Boeing would pursue this to make a profit, right?" "I mean, there´s financial motivation to do this?" "Uhm, let´s see." "So, let me not speak for Boeing." " Is that allowed?" " Well, it is what it is..." "But some day, if the U.S. is gonna decide to do this stuff, they gonna turn..." "look to a company, who could do it and you would want to be positioned   Boeing would rather get it, than Lockheed Martin." "So, certainly we have an industrial base, that helps the country take on technologies and large scale challenges, like national defense." "And we do that, both for a profit motive, as well a ..." "I think, as a national service." "I think, it would be truly disastrous, if we discovered a few years from now, that there was a black-program and some government had stood up and   sort of learn on the quiet how to do this." "It´s pretty clear, you can cool the planet, but you will not and cannot bring it back to exactly the same climate state, you started with." "So, you may or may not, I suspect, have a lot of back and forth about, how useful it is to ameliorate the risks of climate change." "I think, there is a good evidence, that´s probably useful, but we don´t know ..." "But it certainly can´t get you back to exactly the climate you started with." "Everybody agrees with that." " Do you think, we see deployment in our lifetime?" " I only say:" "I hope not." " Al?" " I would agree." "I hope not." " I hope not." "I see this as something like an evacuation plan   you know, that you ... build big dikes   maybe emissions reduction to try to keep the flood from wiping you out ... .. but that, if you should ..." "... that flood should come, you like plan   for what to do in the event of that catastrophy." "So, I see these options more as a catastrophic response option and not as a way to reduce risk of every-day climate change." "You would advocate mitigating consumption of beef as a means of accomplishing your objective?" " Uh ... yes!" " How would you suggest going about that?" "You can´t ..." "I don´t .. uhm..." "It´s your job to decide that to tax and what not to tax." "Obviously, if you want people to behave differently you give them incentives and disincentives for behaviour, but ..." " I'm sure that's the answer, you wanted to hear, Mr. Smith." " If only my time had not expired." " (laughs)" "Because there´s literally aluminum and barium contamination found around the world   believed to be from these programs?" " Look today over the captial, it looks like they are deploying some kinds of aerosols." "Did you see it?" " No, I didn´t, but I can see you. (sic)" "In the James Bond scenario, some rogue rich guy puts some airplanes in the air and seeds the clouds." "What is to prevent that?" " I'll be glad to talk to you." "Just call my office." " Okay, are you aware of the issue?" " As I said, I do it through the office." " Are you in support of those proposals?" "What is your take?" " I don´t ..." "I don´t know anything about it and I'm running late ..." " I´ve gotta chair a hearing." " Okay, we´ll give you a letter on this." " This is a letter from constituents ..." " I´ll take this!" " Excellent!" " ... and many people believe that, these programs have already been deployed, because mass contamination has been found." " I have no idea, what you mean by "these programs"." "One word or two." " Geoengineering programs, stratospheric..." " Geoengineering." "Got it!" "Spraying from airplanes." "So, what is happening:" "People from around the world are finding contamination ..." " Let me take care of this." "I talk with you, when I come back." " Thank you very much!" "We see that, even though we might make the average temperature of the planet about right, rain fall patterns change some from today." "And some places become a little warmer and some places become cooler." "So, there are gonna to be winners and losers in this geoengineering activity, if we were to do it ... .. but, nevertheless, as David has said:" "There are reasons, why we might consider doing it." "Many people are deeply concerned about it, because of the toxicity of aluminum and it has been addressed to Congress in various committees." "Would you take a look at a letter from some of your constituents, addressing the concerns?" " Please excuse me, if I go ..." " Okay, can I give you a letter from constituents." "Are you aware of the proposals of dumping ..." " I'm running a little bit late." " Got you." "Thanks!" "Well, I´m not familiar with it, so I don´t know what to do." "Okay." "Well, the geoengineers are proposing, that aluminum and barium dumped into the atmosphere ..." "Why would you do that?" "Aluminum is a precious metal, we can use." "Well, the stated goal is to actually cool the planet, however there is ..." " Sounds strange." " Right!" "Exactly!" "So, they are proposing dumping these metals into the air to block the sun essentially ..." "We are here to just find out, what members of Congress are ..." " I hope we have a strong hearing on that, before we decide to do so." " I would hope so   and there´s plenty of evidence, that not only suggests, that these programs have been deployed,   because we are finding contamination of aluminum and barium in the rains, snow and soil." " Okay, thank you!" " Thank you!" "L.A. County has seen 200 percent increase in Alzheimer´s in the last decade." "Tons of ground and water samples showing high levels of aluminum all around our state." "Why don´t you give me all the information you have." "I have some very good people, I will assign it to." " And if you get it to Mr. Lavelle ..." " Okay ..." "He´s got my card and send me an email, and we´ll ..." " We will be in touch." "We are investigating this and there´s literally a mountain of evidence, that suggests that these programs ..." " Okay." "Move that mountain over to us and we´ll look at ..." " And looking up into the sky, you´ll see some ..." " Okay ..." "You will." "You can see the aerosols being sprayed out by airplanes quite a bit ..." "So, thank you." "The future of humanity is definitely dependent on it." "So we are counting on people like yourself   to take some proactive steps." "So, thank you very much, guys." " Very well." "Thank you!" " I appreciate it!" "Thank you!" "A lot of Congress was running down the hallways to avoid answering any questions, looking for doors in the hallways." "So, apparently the war is against all of us and we are all in a hostage crisis." "People, who took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution not only know this is happening, but are participating in this." "And all of us have a duty to stand up and speak out about it!" "Why is the water being contaminated?" "Why is the soil being contaminated?" "Why are aluminum-related diseases going up and affecting all of us?" "And thus, we all have the duty to stand up and speak out and get educated and stop this for our own sake, for our children´s sake." "It is a crucial moment in history right now!" "The human beings, we, need to decide, whether to live on our knees   while being sprayed and poisoned every day   while being under a continual threat or whether we are going to stand up and live as free human beings   and seek truth, justice, peace and freedom for all ..." "... all of God´s children!" "So, as you can see, we are ending our film here in Washington, DC." "We have made many public officials aware of this." "Most of them either denied any knowledge of this   or they simply were unwilling to address this situation with us." "So, as you could see - right behind the White House -   we do have aerosols behind us." "The spraying has continued." "What is the solution?" "Is the solution here in Washington, DC?" "Clearly!" "This is one of the solutions, but the solution is not only here." "The solution is within YOU!" "This issue affects all of us so deeply." "So, you need to look inside." "Please, get active!" "Get involved!" "Start spreading the word with growing awareness." "About 90% of the population, we believe, is unaware of this issue,   which means 90% of the people, who normally might do something   if they knew, are not doing anything, because the aren´t aware." "So please, look into your heart." "Use WHATEVER SKILL YOU HAVE to get the word out." "The future of humanity is depending upon it!"