"Previously on Without a Trace:" "There was just this weird dynamic." "Between who?" "Greg and Julie and Greg's brother Rick." "It's easy to confuse them being twins." "N.Y.P.D. Just found Julie Cochran's body." "How'd you meet Julie?" "At the shelter." "Love at first sight?" "For me it was." "The body?" "Anne Mathis." "She's a homeless woman from the Canal Street Center." "I referenced Rick's travel records against unsolved homicides and disappearances." "I found six." "And get this, they were all homeless." "When we were 12, there was this girl, Patricia Payton." "I killed her." "They have the same DNA." "Fifty percent doubt is reasonable." "Rick made sure Greg was everywhere he was." "He's the perfect alibi." "You killed Julie and set it up to make it look like Greg did it." "Your brother is a monster." "No." "He killed your girlfriend." "He didn't." "Let's go." "I want to talk to my brother." "Greg!" "Listen, he didn't kill anyone, okay?" "Not Julie." "He didn't kill that girl when they were younger." "We cannot let Greg take the fall for this." "Do something." "There's nothing we can do." "Happy Thanksgiving." "Here you go." "Happy Thanksgiving." "That smells all right." "Nothing better than sweet potato pie." "Thank you, Ned." "You got it." "Hi." "Hi, Molly." "Can we talk?" "I don't think so." "I love you." "Listen, do you want turkey or not?" "Please, I need you to believe me." "I told you." "Why are you?" "Give me your plate or step aside." "There are other people here." "Hey, Ned." "Hiya, Vinny." "Happy Thanksgiving." "Molly's been staying at the shelter almost two years." "Never missed a night." "Never missed a meal until Friday morning." "Come on, guys." "Let's move it." "Up and out." "Now it's four days and everybody here is really unnerved." "Come on, Roy, you know the rules." "Up and out." "I mean, we were just moving past Julie and Anne's murder and all of a sudden" "I understand, I understand." "That guy work here?" "Rick Knowles." "He took over for his brother as assistant director." "Full time?" "No, he still works for that big pharmaceutical company." "But he's been able to be here quite a bit." "We all think Greg's innocent." "I mean, Rick here has been a morale boost." "Greg confessed to those murders." "That's not what Rick told us." "Agent Fitzgerald." "Lose your job?" "Need a place to stay?" "That's funny." "I like that." "You guys know each other?" "Yeah, we sure do." "This is one of the geniuses that put Greg away." "Obviously, we got the wrong guy." "Obviously, you did." "Martin, can I speak to you for a minute, please?" "Peter, can I ask you a few more questions out here?" "Talk to you in a few, okay?" "Mr. Knowles." "Been a long time." "Where were you the night Molly disappeared?" "No pleasantries, Jack?" "Where were you?" "I was right here." "You see her leave?" "No, it was Thanksgiving." "It's our busiest night." "When did you leave?" "About 9:30." "Where'd you go?" "Home." "What, to your apartment?" "It's Greg's apartment." "Living in your brother's apartment now?" "I'm looking after it for him till he comes back." "You stay there all night?" "Yes, I did." "Can anybody verify that?" "I can." "A lonely way to spend the holiday." "Yes, it was." "Thanks to you." "Have you talked to your brother?" "All the time." "I'm concerned about him." "Same as I am about Molly." "I'll bet." "If something did happen to her, it'll be on your head." "How's that?" "Well, you screwed it up last time." "Left the killer on the streets." "Now it's happened again." "We're gonna get the right guy this time." "Well, anything I can do to help." "You could confess." "So we good here?" "I got some people to take care of." "We're great." "I know where to find you." "So how long have you known Molly?" "A year and a half." "Maybe." "And what was her relationship like with Ned Atkins?" "They got clean together." "Heroin?" "Crack?" "Heroin." "You know, Peter mentioned to me that Molly and Ned had a fight recently." "Any idea what that was about?" "Well, she fell off the wagon." "And when was that?" "Last week." "And he caught her." "I was there when it all went down." "What are you looking for?" "My jacket." "Seen it?" "No." "When did you leave it?" "I don't know." "I had it earlier." "Looking for this?" "Thanks, Ned." "Found this in the pocket." "That's not mine." "Oh, come on!" "It's not." "You're such a loser." "You're a disgrace to this whole program." "Get out." "Get out." "It was pretty frightening." "I mean, how upset he got." "Right." "And how did he seem after she went missing?" "He was really shaken by the whole thing." "I don't think anybody's seen him for a couple days." "The day of the fight, when Molly lost her jacket Was Rick around then?" "I think so." "It's a frame up." "We'll find her in a river, strangled, and it'll look like Ned Atkins did it." "What about the other murders?" "How is Rick gonna pawn those off on Atkins?" "I don't know." "I'm sure he's figured out a way." "Oh, come on, Jack." "I need a warrant for Greg's apartment." "We searched the apartment at the time of the arrest." "The judge won't let you back in." "And Rick's place of business?" "Not without probable cause, which you don't have right now." "If you had let me go after Rick Don't put this off on me." "Greg confessed five months ago." "I told you what" "He has confessed to murdering Anne Mathis and eight other homeless women." "The U.S. Attorney has gone there time and time again and they can't find inconsistencies in Greg's statements." "Now, this is an airtight case." "Really?" "How do you explain Molly Petrovich?" "Is it a coincidence that she's missing from the shelter that Rick Knowles is working at?" "Copycat, okay?" "Fine." "Olczyk." "Yeah." "Yeah." "Yeah, thanks, Tom." "Greg Knowles has changed his plea to not guilty." "His lawyer is contesting the confessions." "Not so airtight, huh?" "Do I need my lawyer?" "No, we just want to ask you a few questions." "Okay." "So we understand you changed your plea." "Yeah." "What happened?" "I had a lot of time to think about it." "Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact your brother visited yesterday?" "We talked about it." "What did he say?" "Why are you here?" "We don't think you murdered those women, Greg." "Really?" "Really." "Okay." "What did your brother say?" "He said the same thing he's been saying for months." "That I should fight." "They had you in that interrogation room for nine hours without a lawyer." "I killed those women." "No, you didn't." "You said so yourself." "FBI had us turned against each other." "Malone convinced you that I'd raped Julie." "He doctored that coroner's report." "She wasn't raped." "You loved her, Greg." "You never would have hurt her." "What about Trisha?" "Oh, come on, man." "That was 30 years ago." "I loved her." "No, you didn't." "Yes, I did." "You were 12 years old." "It was a crush." "I loved her." "All right, look, it doesn't matter." "No one will ever know what happened in that boathouse." "Your confession will never hold, not the way they got it out of you." "What do you want me to do?" "You plead not guilty and I'll have you out of here in a couple of days." "A couple of days?" "Trust me." "I need you, Greg." "You can't leave me out here all alone." "You're all I've got." "And he was right." "He's all I've got." "You had Julie." "You had Trisha Payton." "Yeah." "Another woman went missing from the shelter." "Molly Petrovich." "Molly?" "You know her?" "Yeah." "Rick spends a lot of time at the shelter." "He volunteers there sometimes." "It's a little more than that." "He's the assistant director now." "Isn't that your old job?" "What's your point?" "I think you know." "No, I don't." "Rick killed those women, not you." "We're done here." "Why don't you stick around, see if you can wait him out." "Car's registered to a Ned Atkins." "That's the guy you're looking for?" "Yeah." "How long has it been here?" "Well, it's got two tickets on it." "First one's written Friday, 3:35 p.m." "So the car's been here at least three days." "Hey, you might want to look at this." "How old's the corpse?" "The coroner's on his way  but my guess is three days, maybe four." "Yeah, that lines up." "Where's the car?" "About three blocks away from Ned Atkins ' apartment." "Where exactly is it?" "In front of a fire hydrant, no parking zone?" "A church." "So he definitely wanted us to find it." "Okay, so where is poor Ned?" "If Rick's trying to frame him wouldn't it be better if Ned was around so we could arrest him?" "My guess is he got spooked and he ran." "Look, N. Y.P.D. Want to conduct a thorough search of Ned's apartment." "I can't hold them off much longer, not with a dead body in the trunk of his car." "I'll be there in 10 minutes." "Tell them to wait." "Okay." "Jack." "They're all here." "U.S. Attorney's office is gonna love this." "If he sees that, Greg Knowles is walking." "Hey, guys." "We got it." "Thanks." "Here's what I want you to do." "Photograph everything in the box and put it back where you found it." "It's okay." "I'll take the heat." "Hey, Malone, look what the cat dragged in." "Ned, where you been?" "I was looking for my girlfriend." "Can you believe this schmuck?" "I'll take him from here." "This is a homicide." "He's wanted in five states for eight kidnappings and murders." "He's federal property." "I didn't kill anybody." "Shut up." "Get in the car." "I know you didn't." "She was in the trunk of my car?" "Yeah." "Anyone else have the key?" "No, but the car was stolen." "That's why I was gone for so long, because I was on foot." "I thought maybe she took it." "You still have the keys?" "Yeah." "Can I see them?" "House and car?" "Yeah." "I can't believe she's dead." "I mean, I just I can't believe it." "Rick Knowles ever go to your apartment?" "No." "Was he aware of your relationship?" "Well, sure." "Everyone was." "Julie Cochran, how well did you know her?" "She was a really nice girl." "Remember where you were when she was murdered?" "I was probably shooting up." "How long were you on the needle?" "About 11 years." "So I don't suppose you could account for where you were on any day during that period." "No, the whole period's pretty hazy." "The syringe you found in Molly's pocket." "You still have it?" "Yeah, it's in my cubby at the shelter." "And to be honest, I could really use a fix right now." "Well, we're not gonna let that happen." "We'll get you some help, okay?" "All right." "So now we're burying evidence?" "We process this and Greg gets out of jail" "Greg's innocent." "I know that." "We need to keep him in jail so Sam can work on him." "When Greg gets out, Rick won't let us talk to him." "I don't feel comfortable with it." "Look." "You need to relax." "We just need to stall while we build our case." "Stalling for a day or two is also known as evidence tampering and obstruction of justice." "Excuse me." "This guy Atkins was the perfect fall guy." "He knew Julie, Anne and Molly, and had no alibi for the other murders." "We couldn't make the connection." "Our only chance is to prove that Rick had access to Atkins' car and apartment." "My guess is that he had duplicates of these made." "Canvass Greg's neighborhood?" "That would be great." "Agent Malone." "To what do I owe the pleasure?" "I was just dropping by to talk to your supervisor." "They found a syringe in Molly What's her name?" "Petrovich." "Petrovich." "They found a syringe in her pocket." "Your supervisor confirmed that it matches the kind of syringes in your sample kit." "What can you tell me about that?" "Molly probably stole it." "I bring my kit to the shelter if I've been on a sales call." "Why bring that to a shelter where there were drug addicts?" "You're right." "It was careless of me." "Is that a crime?" "Not as far as I know." "So...?" "I don't think Ned did it." "I can't find a single shred of evidence to tie him to the other murders." "Really?" "Nothing." "That's your brother?" "Yeah." "Good looking, isn't he?" "I can see why you'd think that." "Night." "Good night." "Poor Molly." "Yeah." "She was killed the same way as the others and Ned has no alibi for any of them." "So it certainly makes it look like you're innocent." "I had this dream." "What was it?" "I saw Trisha." "Trisha Payton?" "She was fighting for her life and she was fighting so hard." "And I felt like I was just a few feet away." "And I wanted to help her." "But you couldn't?" "No." "There were all these mice just swarming all over her body." "It was just disgusting." "It was horrible." "When did you have this dream?" "On Thanksgiving." "That night." "The night Molly was killed?" "Have you ever had that dream before?" "When?" "When Rick and I used to take our trips." "When those other women were killed?" "Think about it, Greg." "Think about how connected you two are." "Maybe that's what your dreams are about." "I can't do this." "I'm sorry." "Greg." "I'm done." "Make sure he's put on suicide watch." "I just got a call from the 16th Precinct." "They found a box of mementos and trophies in Ned Atkins' apartment." "Pictures of dead women including Julie Cochran and Anne Mathis." "Apparently they got an anonymous tip." "An anonymous tip?" "Yes, and they decided to check it out before referring it to us." "Didn't you see it when you were in there?" "Yes, I did." "You didn't process the evidence?" "Nope." "Why not, Jack?" "Who do you think called in the tip?" "Are you telling me Rick planted the box in the apartment?" "We found a locksmith who verifies that someone made keys from Atkins' keychain." "Someone?" "Locksmith can't place Rick for sure but he's two blocks from the shelter." "The shelter?" "That could be anybody, including Atkins." "Now, who else knew about withholding evidence?" "No one." "Just me." "The U.S. Attorney called." "They're releasing Greg Knowles and there's not a damn thing we can do about it." "You better call Sam and let her know what's happening." "Spade." "They're gonna release Greg from prison." "Get to him and convince him not to talk to his brother." "Too late." "What are you doing down here?" "Dinner." "We're off the case, aren't we?" "Nope." "The judge let us bug Greg's apartment." "Well, that's good news." "Yup." "You know, Greg was close to breaking." "I think he knows that Rick is responsible for everything." "He just doesn't want to face it." "He's back with his brother." "That's gonna spin him six ways to Sunday." "What are those?" "Divorce papers." "Yours?" "Rick's." "1996." "According to this, he never had sex with his wife." "Well, we know he's not into women." "Or girls." "That could be it." "What?" "That." "What?" "Girls." "Trisha Payton." "That's where this all started." "That's what we have to do." "Go back to the beginning." "You're free." "To family." "To family." "It's good to be home, isn 't it?" "I heard what you told Olczyk earlier." "I want to catch this psychopath as bad as anyone else." "What happened to my lionfish?" "Oh, you know what?" "Oh, shoot." "Those fish were kind of hard to take care of." "I think I fed him too much and he died last week." "Sorry, man." "But you liked living here?" "Hey." "It was my only way of staying close to you." "That's not really true, is it?" "What do you mean?" "I heard you took my job at the shelter." "I know it's important to you." "I wanted to hold down the fort." "What's up with you?" "The FBI came to see me today." "They did?" "What did they say?" "A lot." "Like what?" "Hey." "It doesn't matter." "Whatever they said, they don't matter." "This is what matters." "Okay?" "Come here." "You know what?" "Let's take a trip." "What kind of trip?" "Doesn 't matter." "Just get out of here." "Let's just get away somewhere and relax." "Be good for you, you know?" "You deserve to get all this stuff off your mind." "Yeah?" "Yeah, that'd be good." "All right." "Come on." "Let's eat." "Okay, listen up, everybody." "Twenty minute break for drinks and snacks and it wouldn't hurt to look at your lines." "And when we get back, we're gonna start at the top." "Mrs. Payton?" "Yes." "We're with the FBI." "What can I do for you?" "We wondered if we could speak to you about your daughter Trisha." "It was getting dark and I didn't know where she was." "So I called the police and I told them she was probably somewhere with Greg." "They were always together." "When they got Greg that night at his house, he smelled of alcohol." "Then when they found..." "When they found Trisha in the boathouse it turned out she had alcohol in her system too." "So of course, they focused on Greg." "But you don't think he did it?" "No." "No, he was a sweet boy." "They both were, he and Rick." "Did Rick hang out with Greg and your daughter?" "Yeah." "Rick followed Greg wherever he went." "Really?" "Are you sure about that?" "Oh, yeah." "Greg was very popular and athletic and funny and..." "All the girls were crazy about him." "But not Rick?" "No, he was awkward, really." "He always seemed a little lost whenever Greg wasn't around." "I really never thought Greg did it." "And I can't imagine why he would've confessed now after all these years." "I spoke with his supervisor." "Rick has no trips coming up." "I checked his credit cards." "No reservations anywhere." "Nothing." "Go over to Greg's apartment." "Danny and Viv will need help with surveillance once the twins move." "On my way." "Okay, great." "Got anything?" "Okay, May 14th, 1973." "Apparently, the sheriff taped Greg's interrogation." "Listen to this." "I love Trisha and I would never do anything to hurt her." "I know you love her." "Everyone says the two of you are always together." "I told you 20 times already, I never saw her today." "I swear to God, I never saw her." "Your brother's in the other room and he said he saw you with Trisha after school." "You were gonna go to the boathouse." "No, he didn't." "He wouldn't say that." "You ought to talk to him, straighten him out." "You gonna let me talk to him?" "Sure." "We just want to get to the bottom of this." "Hang on a minute." "We weren't the only ones with this idea." "I don't know how much longer I can do this." "Now, you just listen to me." "They don't have anything on you." "And I haven't said anything, okay?" "Yeah." "You never saw her, you hear me?" "You never saw her." "No matter how many times they ask you, no matter how many different ways." "Don't let them bully you, you hear me?" "Yeah, but Don't." "Come on, Greg." "Please." "Okay." "Okay." "Thank you." "I mean, I don't know what I'd do without you." "What did you expect me to do?" "We're brothers." "I didn't want to get you in trouble, Mouse." "Don't ever call me that again." "What?" "What's the matter?" "You heard me." "I don't ever want to hear that name again!" "Okay." "I'm sorry." "The mice from the dream." "From here on in, it's just you and me, Greg." "You understand me?" "We can't trust anyone else in the world." "Just you and me." "Ten minutes later, their lawyer showed up." "Sheriff couldn't get the boys back and couldn't make a case." "Malone." "You wiretap Greg Knowles' apartment?" "I got a warrant from the judge." "You didn't mention Ned Atkins being the prime suspect in this case." "I didn't think it was relevant." "You know what, Jack?" "Come home." "You and I need to talk." "Okay." "And don't make another move without consulting me first." "Got it?" "Got it." "They're making a move." "Making a move." "Malone." "The twins are on the move." "They're packed to go on a trip." "Do you want us to follow?" "Pick them up." "Pick them up?" "Yeah, bring them in." "Okay." "Drop your bags, keep your hands where we can see them." "Drop them." "Over here." "Thanks, Martin." "Yeah, no problem." "Good luck." "Welcome back." "Are you charging me?" "I haven't decided yet." "Because of you, I've been separated from my brother now for five months." "You might not have a life, Jack, but we do." "Well, I'm really sorry to have inconvenienced you but I went to Connecticut to talk to Trisha Payton's mother." "Really?" "And what did Mrs. Payton have to tell you?" "Why don't you take a seat?" "She told me that you were shy." "That you were not the dominant one." "That you're a wallflower." "Is that right?" "She said you lived in Greg's shadow." "Girls more attracted to Greg." "And it just made me wonder what predicated the switch?" "From here on in, it's just you and me, Greg." "You understand me?" "We can 't trust anyone else in the world." "Just you and me." "That was the moment, wasn't it?" "When he took control of you?" "You were in love with Trisha, and he took her from you." "And when you had another chance at happiness with Julie, he took her too." "I don't know." "Rick took this photo of Julie after he killed her, in your apartment while you were passed out in the other room." "And for a long time I was trying to figure out which one of you killed Trisha." "But I've decided it was you." "Me?" "That's when you got the taste for it." "That's why you did it over and over." "Really?" "I read your divorce papers." "According to your wife, you never had sex with her." "My ex wife was a liar." "Really?" "You signed the papers." "You didn't dispute it." "What's it have to do with your persecution of my brother?" "Well, I just don't think that you like women." "I like women fine, Jack." "But I think you like your brother more." "Okay, I don't need to listen to this." "Just admit it." "Ever since you were 12, spanking it in the bathroom, you thought about Greg." "Enough." "Looked in the mirror, saw his face." "I said that's enough!" "Which made you hate yourself, but it made you hate him even more." "Remember when you told me about your dream?" "The mice?" "Yeah." "When you were kids, didn't you call Rick "Mouse"?" "Yeah." "He hated that name." "Of course he did." "Because you were strong and full of life and he was just a scared little boy." "Maybe." "So maybe when you're seeing the mice crawling all over Trisha it's actually Rick." "It's possible." "Isn't it?" "Greg." "I used to see things." "What kind of things?" "In the hotel where we'd stay on our trips." "Necklaces and bracelets." "He was keeping their jewelry as trophies." "Mr. Olczyk." "Oh, God." "Time to release my other client now." "Let's go home." "Spade." "Were you aware that Jack was defying my order?" "Yes, sir, I was, and I'm sorry." "What is it with you people?" "If Malone told you to jump off a building, would you?" "Probably, sir." "Yes." "Maybe Rick didn't give up all his trophies." "We're gonna need your help getting a search warrant." "What do we got here?" "Step back into the room and take a seat." "Back into the room and take a seat!" "Okay, I am, I am." "Right there." "Sit down." "I just want you guys" "Sit down!" "What the hell happened here?" "We had a fight." "You were right." "It was terrible." "Rick ran out and left." "I don't know where he went." "What was the fight about?" "I told him I knew everything." "All of it." "What he did." "Everything." "You were right, Sam." "After all these years." "I know!" "I know what you did!" "You're taking her word over mine?" "It has nothing to do with her!" "I saw it!" "I saw it all!" "What?" "What did you see?" "Why?" "Why would you do this to me?" "How could you?" "Greg, listen to me." "I would lay down my life for you but this is in your head, okay?" "You are sick." "You need help." "You need serious help." "I should kill you!" "How can you say that to me?" "I love you!" "You love me?" "You love me?" "You love me?" "Everything I've ever done has been for you!" "And then finally he stopped and he got up and he ran out and..." "He said I'd never see him again." "I'll do whatever you guys want me to." "I'll testify against him." "Anything." "I just want to put this behind me." "We need to take you downtown, take your statement." "Yeah, of course." "Hey, Mouse." "Keep him covered." "Is he alive?" "Yeah, send an ambulance to 411 Elizabeth Street." "Is he alive?" "Yeah, he's alive." "Hopefully, I still have a job in the morning." "Oh, I'm sure you'll be fine." "What'd you say to Olczyk anyway?" "Nothing he didn't know already." "If I didn't have paperwork, I'd buy you a drink." "You should probably buy everybody a drink." "Probably should." "From here on in, it's just you and me, Greg." "You understand me?" "We can 't trust anyone else in the world." "Just you and me." "Subtitles by SDI Media Group" "[ENGLISH]"