"THE AFTERNOON OF A TORTURER" "There's nothing in the universe without a reason." "If something occurs, either visible or invisible," "It's because another thing, visible or invisible, provoked it." "A leaf which gets loose and falls," "The ice that melts," "The sudden awakening of somebody," "The appearance of a little spot on the smooths surface of the skin," "An earthquake, a flood," "A plentiful harvest of wheat, an insect invasion." "All the phenomenae of the visible and invisible universe are bound to one and the same principle: the causality." "A beating of wings of a butterfly over the Mediterranean Sea" "Can start one cyclone in the Pacific." "The world is full of miracles" "That our spirit is not taking into account anymore." "Why does the light cross this window pane" "And not this part, there, in our train compartment" "Who's made of wood and steel?" "Or why doesn't it cross your body," "As the X-rays" "Who allow the doctor to see what we had for breakfast" "Or the customs officer to see what we have in our luggage" "When we present them?" "Me, madam, I've always been concerned" "By the rational demonstration of God's existence." "Let's continue." "When we achieved to crack the atom," "Not so long ago," "Dear madam," "We isolated an ultimate element," "An ultimate, unsplittable element:" "the quark." "There, on top." "The fundamental stone of the universe." "What you see, in the shape of this triangle there," "It's the material world as a whole." "But, by extrapolating," "I prolong these two axes..." "And I obtain what?" "This symmetric triangle to the first one, on top of it." "The immaterial world, the energy," "Usually called antimatter." "The material world is in a ceaseless movement," "Now, the movement," "Even if we consider it only within this mere train corridor," "Occurs in the time." "Movement and time." "The movement and the time are inseparable." "Their empire, it's there, this triangle below." "The upper triangle..." "Do you know what they are, the hell and the paradise?" "I believe that if we do bad things, we are in hell already." "For me the hell and the paradise exist with a psychological meaning only," "They are within ourselves..." "But on the metaphysical plan, Dear madam," "They are outside ourselves." "The triangle of at the top represents the energy, in it's pure form." "Or more simply the paradise." "And here, in the centre..." "God." "" Quod erat demonstrandum. "" "Tandara!" "You recognize me, Tandara?" "Shall we go?" "Tell me, would you guess the occupation of our friend, Franz Tandara," "During the last 35 years?" "He practises a profession so subtle, I shall say even noble." "Millennium." "Ancestral." "A biblical profession." "The beekeeping." "Where do we go?" "Madam asks where we go." "We go to the farm." "What farm?" "It's not really a farm." "It's a little house..." "It's a hut..." "It belonged to my father." "He kept his sheeps in there..." "And now, I keep my bees." "There's a tree..." "It's beautiful." "We is going to eat there." "I brought some grills." "It's there where you buy the cheese?" "What cheese?" "You don't buy cheese from Bulgaria?" "I've never been in Bulgaria." "Never abroad." "But Bulgaria, it's close." "No, I'm telling you." "I've never been there and I shall never go!" "I've never asked of passport." "Bees, they take me all my time." "And the hibernation of the bees in the forest, that takes place well?" "I know not I believe so." "It's the first time, it's experimental." "Towards the end of his life, he doesn't give up." "He searches, he 's experimenting." "Van Gogh!" "Please, look at this extraordinary yellow, the colour of eternity..." "The honey of sunflower, the sweetest, the most gold-coloured." "And this damned car Shit..." "I've got a new one, too, but my son dosn't allow me to use it," "Even if it's me who bought it, see?" "..." "Who gave it to you?" "Say, eh." "I gave everything to him, I shall give him everything," "If God will leave him alive..." "Ticuta!" "Ticuta..." "Don't leave me, Ticuta!" "Seriously, one could swear this is a Van Gogh." "What shall I do without you, Ticuta!" "And the political parties, how is it going here, in Giurgiu?" "I've given him and I shall give him everything," "If good God will not take him away from me." "Because he is my punishment that comes to me from God." " It's your son?" "¦ - yes." "But your son can not work himself?" " No." "Why?" "Because my son is only 37 years old," "But he's got cirrhosis since he was 19." "It's my sins for which I pay." "Please, excuse these..." "The honey has a strong erotic connotation." "The honey of the eternal love in the Song of Songs." "The honey is symbol of eternity." "Archaeologists have found honey" "Since thousands of years ago in clay vases." "Isn't it, Franz, that honey never deteriorates?" "What did you say, Mr Luci?" "You take it out finally?" "If we leave it outside at night, they are going to steal it." "Take the grills!" "You have some packages in the car there." " Some fruit juice?" " No, no..." "Bring some fruit juice." "Please, enter, Mr. Professor!" "Please, make yourselves comfortable." "What is this?" "It's you as a child?" "Yes..." "It's taken during the Holy Innocents Day." "Look, this one died." "This one also..." "This one's in Australia." "That one, I don't know anymore who he is..." "Please, have a seat, please." "Thank you." " Some coffee?" " No, no.." "Let's get started, we have a lot of work to do." "Maybe we should stay outside." "It's nice outside, nice indeed, especially if the wind is not blowing from Avicola (the chicken farm)." "No." "Let's..." "That'll be fast." "The toilet, it's behind that tree." "No, no, thank you..." "Do you also harvest the poison of the bees?" "I stopped." "It's difficult." "And what method did you use?" "Narcotics" "Or the electric shock treatment?" "The electric shock treatment." "For the electric shock treatment in bees, you need: a pulse generator," "The electric source" "And the electric surface" "Where bees gather." "Check in the car, there's something for the ducks, too." "The pulse generator is an electronic device" "Fed by a 9-12V power source" "Which creates optimal electromagnetical charges." "Optimal, for which purpose?" "Optimal to obtain the bee poison." "The wind comes from Avicola (the chicken farm)." "Please, tell her not to pass by anymore." "Did you hear that?" "Stay away!" "May I have something to put the flower in?" "Come here!" "Put this flower in the jar." "Would it be possible?" "I don't recall if I already introduced her, she's my wife." "Let's get started, please, let's get started." " The beginning of my childhood - please, wait." "I haven't start recording yet." "Okay, let's go." "" Meetings torturers - victims, "Our Memory" series no. 3. "" "Please, resume, when I press the button." "And don't speak that fast..." "Okay, now...." "The beginning of my childhood have been very tragic." "No, not like this..." "More natural, with your rhythm." "The beginning of my childhood have been very tragic." "When I was 12, I was a child reared by the army" "In the 5th Infantry Regiment in Giurgiu," "The city where I was born." "Sorry." "I believe that I didn't start the recording..." "Never mind." "C'mon, this time it will be just great." "This time, it will be perfect." "The beginning of my childhood have been very tragic." "When I was 12, I was a child reared by the army" "In the 5th Infantry Regiment in Giurgiu," "The city where I was born." "I remained here until the end of the war, in 44," "When the regiment have been dissolved!" "Is it okay like this?" "Is it allright now?" "Why did you stop?" "It was very well." "Why did you stop?" "Please, don't stop any more, No matter what." "The "benigigning" of my "childlhold"..." "Whai if we stayed outside?" "Let's get a little bit more relaxed." "Let's do it allright." "Let's go before the rain starts." "Are you ready?" "Let's do it." "The beginning of my childhood have been very tragic." "When I was 12, I was a child reared by the army" "In the 5th Infantry Regiment in Giurgiu," "The city where I was born." "I remained here until the end of the war, in 44," "When the regiment have been dissolved" "Later, I was roaming, sleeping in train stations." "I was stealing, I lived there," "I even came back over here, in Giurgiu." "Sorry." "It may be Ticuta." "Hello, yes?" "What's up, dickhead?" "Is it you, Ticuta?" "Yes, it's me." "What's up, dickhead?" "You're giving interviews to the free press?" "Yes, I give..." "To that whore, that shitty reporte?" "Is the old shithead there, too?" "" Files about the communism "?" "They're all there, yes, there..." "They leave when?" "This evening..." "They leave this evening." "This evening, we'll set you on fire." "Got it?" "A great torch." "See you later." "The line got interrupted." "I don't understand how you got a phone line here, in this desert." "That way, that's where the smell comes from." "From Avicola. (the chicken farm)" "The telephone?" "Okay, I'll tell you." "Look over there..." "No, higher..." "No, not me." "Above, branches!" "There..." "You see these wires?" "They're power lines." "Higher, it's the telephone line." "And now, please, look at me." "Look at me, please!" "I've got out of the psychiatric hospital 35 years ago." "Well, ever since that moment," "I never paid a dime" "Got it?" "Maybe that was not clear enough..." "Not a dime to the govermnent." "Telephone, radio, electricity, I pick everything from their networks." "I learned that in prison." "This State is full of crooks." "They steal, I also steal." "Why should I pay taxes?" "I'm a beekeeper." "I've never paid a dime for the tax." "Never!" "I stole the electricity, the radio, the telephone!" "I stole everything on their networks." "In Giurgiu I did the same." "I steal everything." "The bench on which you sit, I've stolen that one, too." "Yes, it's true, that is customary in Romania." "They connect directly, and some of them get electrocuted." "Well, if they're stupid, they're stupid Me, why don't I get electrocuted?" "What about your father?" "How and why did you kill him?" "My father?" "Yes, tell me how it happened." "How did you obtain this house, well, this hut?" " Is it recording?" "¦" " Yes, it is." "Would you please excuse me for a few minutes." "Where did you say it is?" " What?" "¦" " The toilet." "Toilet, it's over there." "Please, do not disturb the bees." "At the beginning, this was his sheepfold." "He had 20, 30 sheeps." "It was its sheepfold, all right." "But the law prevents you from inheriting," "You killed your father, after all..." "It was a parricide" "Yes, you're right..." "Parricide, it's the word of the lawyer." "This is the law, madam." "There's no law, everything can be bought." "What is this, " parricide "?" "Madam, on March 4th, 81, when the doctors opened my son," "They didn't even sew him back well." "" Take him ", they said to me." "" That he dies in his bed. "" "They've had already burry him," "But I, I persisted." "I was in the church and I prayed." "" God, please don't take him away from me. "" "" I'll stop searching for a treasure here, on Earth but I'll search it in Heaven. "" "I've flooded with my tears the paving stones of the church," "But I held word..." "What if I didn't have that money, what would I've done?" "Nothing." "Let's return to your father, how did you kill him?" "Yes." "You have no business over here." "Don't come." "Teodoresco?" "I've go nothing to tell him, to Teodoresco." "Yes, hello, Mr Teodoresco." "I'm listening." "Why would you come here?" "You want to convince me of what?" "I'm over 18." "Everyone should stay out of my business got it?" "I gave him the car, I kept this scrap for myself." "I gave him everything, everything!" "Please, don't call anymore, I'm busy, I have guests." "That, that's my business." "My business." "Would you stop those threats..." "Please, don't call any more." "Don't answer anymore the telephone." "Come sit down." "When she married you, sdid she know who you were?" "Yes." "People said to her:" "" Take care, he is going to kill you. "" "My mother told her, too..." "Sit." "My mother was the first who told her:" "" You won't stay together long time."" "" He has all bad parts of his father. "" "She was not afraid." "Or maybe she was, but didn't show..." "But I was imperative." "When I said to her: " do that ", ¦ She had to do it." "And if she could bear my wickedness." "Because I'm nasty, you know." "It's my partner for life." "Please, go, bring some juice, this one is warm." "Please, go!" "You want me to tell you about my father?" "Look..." "He sleeps, the poor man." "I heard rumors that he's getting into politics." "It's true?" "Please, ask him." "Is that thing running?" "Yes, it runs, didn't I tell you?" "From the train station," "I went straight to the communists." "Then I returned at my father's." "I was 15." "" I don't have anyone else but you ", He told me, my father," "That moved me and I stayed with him and his sheeps." "" You were wrong to leave us." "What are you now?" somebody told me" "" A wanderer, a shepheard. "" "Another one, a big boss from the communist party, he told me:" "" If he had been my father, I would have knocked him out already. "" "Shortly, I'll continue with the greatest misfortune in my whole life." "That took place during the autumn, on September 7th, it was Tuesday." "At 7 am, a dispute burst between me and my father," "Because of his concubine." "He threatened me, he treated me as Bolshevik:" "" Go to hell, you damn bolshevik go to your damn party." "" It's them, your friends! "" "I've asked him for a hat." "It was the autumn, September 7th." "He didn't want to give me anything." "Then I decided to kill him." "I took an axe..." "" Why won't you give me the hat? "" "If there's a thing I regret, that's the little girl." "What girl?" "Ah yes, I forgot to tell you." "He had a little daughter from a woman who dumped him." "I washed her), I brushed her hair..." "I started to like her." "What happened to her?" "She died..." "The evening of the fight." "It's there, near the tree..." "It's there that I knocked him out." "Why do you keep calling?" "I told you not to call anymore, didn't I?" "My father had a sister." "I shall tell you, but we'll deviate from the subject." "No problem." "He had a sister, a disabled person, thin, a dwarfish." "She balanced while walking, like a duck." "He was a giant, and she, a duck." "Slept well, Professor?" "No, I didn't sleep. ¦ It was just resting my eyes." "That's right, yes..." "She knit all day long." "I still see her kniting with those little hands..." "He took his sister to stay with him." "She had some terrain, and he wanted it, this terrain." "He told her: " it's not me, it's the boy, your giving the land to him. "" "I felt sorry for her." "I liked her." "But he, he said:" ""If she won't give you the land, I'll send her away."" "She, she told me: ¦ " Your father is rapacious."" "" And my daughters, then?"" ""What will they say, my sons-in-law if I'll give you the land?"" "And then, one day, she had a heart attack." "I look at her(it), me touche ses small cold hands..." "Auntie..." "Auntie!" "What did you do?" "Hey, you, get up!" "Damn you, you and your mother!" "Why you keep silent?" "That's what I needed, to buy you a coffin..." "Why you keep silent?" "Listen, we won't call the priest." "We'll take her at the edge of the field." "Don't tell anybody that she died." "Or maybe we 'll burry her right there, under the tree..." "But in fact she was alive." "I was really glad that she didn't die." "I made her a herb tea..." "Some savage mint with some sugar, that was all we had." "I wet her lips." "A spoonful for mom..." "One for dad..." "One for me..." "Damn you, you and your mother!" "And now, what am I gonna do with the coffin?" "I already paid for it..." "What, should I feed the pigs in it?" "I'll kill you, I'll kill you both." "C'mon, dad, we'll settle that." "And the little girl, what happened to her?" "The little girl?" "She was swinging over there..." "When we fought she fell from swing..." "I think, I don't know for sure." "She died because of the fall?" "I don't know, maybe..." "Or maybe she died one year later..." "They say that her mother buried her there, under the tree." "But I don't think so, actually I know nothing about it." "Do you remember her name?" "No." "What did you do afterwards?" "The little girl?" "She was swinging over there..." "When we fought she fell from swing..." "I think, I don't know for sure." "She died because of the fall?" "I don't know, maybe..." "Or maybe she died one year later..." "Please, put some clothes on you, it's getting cold." "Please, let me bring it to you, Professor." "That's how we eat them, cold." "Avicola (the chicken farm)." "The first time, two civilians came." "They asked me if I knew how a psychiatric patient behaves." "A madman." "" Of course, I know. " We had one in my hometown in Giurgiu." "" And how did he behave? "" "" Show me how he behaved. "" "" He behaved this way, that way. "" "It was like a test, like you do with actors, for your movies." "Ah no, God protected me, I'm not in themovie business." "Oh yeah, got it." "I concentrated to imitate that madman, or even better, if possible." "" Bravo!" "What else did you see him doing? "" ""Yes", I said." "There was also Vasilica." "He had legs like that." "Vasilica was getting mad when someone irritated him..." "" Epileptics, did you see any? "" "" Ah yes, I sure did. "" "" They do what? "" "" They do that:" "" They jump in the air, the eyes rolled upwards, with foam in their mouth. "" "" Foam in their mouth?" "How's that? "" "" They retain the foam in their mouth first "" "" And they let it go out later. "" "" Some of them don't have foam, they just roll their eyes upwards, that's all. "" "I never had that, so I didn't know," "But I concentrated..." "I concentrated." ""Bravo"!" "That they said to me." "And they laughed." "They'd liked well my number." "" You act very well. "" "What was their interest to make you act like a madman?" "" All day long, Everybody must believe "" "" That you are a 'mentally ill person' ", they told me." "It takes a lot of talent, in the work camp I steered the artistic brigade," "I acted in plays." "There ws a cultural committee with the actor Mircea Septilici there." "He died in Canada, he even sent me a picture postcard from there." "Go search the postcard for me!" "The actor Horia Caciulescu was there, too.," "He had his legs like the letter X, like Vasilica." "They were writing the play." "And I saw it, aprooved it and played it." "" Sam the worker ", That's how they called the play." "" Up, jump, Malagamban Up, jump, don't stay "" "" Up, jump, in one foot Mister Exploiter "" "" Now's my turn To make you jump! "" "Go get the photo." "And one evening, I hear:" "" That's it, tonight we get the job started. "" "" They're bringing some guys that have killed soldiers in the mountains. "" "" You know what have you to do? "" "" I was told that you master the methods to make them speak the truth. "" "" But no, I don't know any method." "Nobody told me that. "" "" What should I do? "" "" How's that, comrade Cocos, didn't he tell you anything? "" "" I don't know Cocos. "" "" Then we achieved nothing!"" "" Nobody goes out of here alive before they spit everything they know. "" "They began cooking them, but they got tired fast." "They were stupid, they knew nothing about torture." "A prisoner began to yell." "The militiaman arrives and says:" "" Please, stop this torture." "Here we don't torture them like that, it's forbidden. "" "" You are not allowed to do that The patients must be relaxed. "" "" And you irritate them! "" "There was nobody to form me." "And I, I'd never investigated." "Then, a lady arrived." "She was a major." "She initiated me." "She was 30 old." "She seemed 15." "A kid." "Dounia." "She was from Bessarabie." "Dounia..." "She brought the materials: a torturer's chair" "Where we could attach their hands and feet." "But they needed the person to serve as a ..." "Guinea pig." "There was a certain Banu there," "A prisoner of common law, he was incurable." "He wasn't even aware any more," "He was in the coma." "" Let's sacrifice this one ", she says." "" We'll take him as an example. "" "To show me how to knock with the pencil." " And you struck them where?" " On their testicles." "Yes, on testicles." "Yes, yes, on testicles." "A long, non-cut pencil, with which we struck them on their testicles." "After she showed me on that prisoner," "I still had enough to learn." "She said to me: " In time, you will become an expert. "" "I became an expert later..." "You found it?" "What is this doing here?" "Are you blind?" "Answer me, are you blind?" "OK, darling, it's allright." "Keep searching it." "I became an expert later..." "Nobody is born learned." "Every evening, from 11 hours," "The inquiry started again until 4-5 in the morning." "The first one on which I experimented didn't survive for long." "In the morning he entered in a coma, he didn't say anything more." "His testicles darkened, inflated, inflated a lot..." "It was inexplicable." "Who's this woman?" "Who, that one?" "A colleague, from Timisoara." "Irma." "I'd become a machine, a brainless robot..." "And this one?" "It's the same." "And all these are near this tree?" "Yes, near this tree." "What wabout the prisoner, burned in the oven by Stanciugel?" "Yes, in the oven of the brickyard." "There were some gipsies working there, gipsies from Transylvania." "They've argued with Stanciugel." "The Gypsy was offended, he's beed called "colored"." "To the appeal in the morning, an absentee." "" Where is he? "" "They searched for him all day long." "In the morning, I said to the commander-in-chief:" "" He burned, Sir, in the oven. "" "" Don't say a word ", he told me." "" We'll report him as fugitive. "" "It's Stanciugel who threw him in the oven?" " I know nothing about it." "Would you excuse me for a minute." "That night, two gipsies from Turda were feeding the oven." "Just like that, they've seen a big greenish flame." "No smoke, just flames." "I think these two did it," "He couldn't have thrown himself in there." "Just my two cents..." "The next day, people of the Constanta Public Prosecutor's office arrived." "Stanciugel comes to me, he says to me:" "" Don't tell anyone that somebody told you it smelled like burnt flesh. "" "Stanciugel asked you for that?" "Yes." "Because that smelt bad." "Everybody could smell it." "The prisoners went to the toilet, ¦ behind the sheds." "All those who've been there that night smelled that." "The guard awakened me:" "" Tandara"" "" Tandara, that smells burned, here in the back! "" "I went there, it smelled, yes, and some bones were burning." "I removed from the fire a man's leg." "The morning, I told the commander." "" It's nothing ", he sayd." "" You dreamed about it. "" "" Sir, but... "" "" You keep your mouth shut!" "Don't say a word!" "Understood? "" "Do you know the name of the burned?" "I knew it." "I forgot." "Most of us were criminals." "There was Bîrganu there." "There was Badea there." "There was one sentenced for 15 years." "He'd killed his mother." "And then Epuran..." "We were numerous. ¦ Heartless persons." "Why do you say you were heartless?" "For example," "The dead ones were in a bathroom on some grids." "We couldn't have left them on the floor." "We arranged them on some grids." "Naked." "And we played with them..." "How's that, you played?" "We were not mentally healthy..." "A mentally healthy person wouldn't have done such things." "How did you play with the dead?" "As the girl had taught us." "We played to stick them with one's nose in the ass of the other one," "Stiff as they were." "They were light, 'bout 40 kilos..." "The skin on bones." "The skin which dangled, we called that..." "The "apron"!" "Bravo!" "He didn't forget that." "Yes, the apron." "The chain of your dog it's so short..." "My colleague throwed them into the cart." "I ran away rather that carrying them" "However, that was 20 kilos for him, 20 kilos for the other one." "The strong ones among us were having fun to throw them in the air, as high as possible." "They fell again, with their heads on the arms of the cart," "There was a whole mess..." "The officers of the Securitate, the corporals came to assist..." "And they'd a good laugh, they joked." "And we laughed, too." "Did anybody count them, these dead?" "Did you know their names?" "What names?" "Count them..." "Why?" "We threw a blanket over them and they left in that cart!" "The transport was made at night." "Yes." "During the day, the excavator dug the hole." "I'm telling you, we were true brutes." "But you were also forced to do it." "Forced?" "Nobody froced us!" "I agreed!" "They didn't threaten me." "I swear in front of God, it would be a lie to say that I was forced.." "In 51, when they've told me they'll release me," "You know what I said?" "I said like that:" "" Not, please, keep me here some more time. "" "You understand?" "" Keep me here some more time. "" "This means I liked it, madam." "What do you think, am I crazy?" "Over there, nobody ever tried to open your eyes?" "Didn't you ever have time to remain alone and face your sins, your decay?" "Why did the questioning took so long?" "10 - 12 hours for a page or two?" "In which tortures have you participated" "As witness and player?" "You don't want to tell us anything more?" "The evening of my departure," "When they let me go," "I turned and I saw the barracks," "It was as if I left my own home." "I was crying." "" What am I going to do?" "It was so good in there! "" "It was not perfect..." "But it was my home, and I liked it." "You said that you searched for some of your colleagues." "Executioners as me." "I went to find them, yes." "" C'mon, let's confess ", I told them." "What did they answer?" "" Are you crazy?" "Do I look crazy like you"" "" I've children to raise ", ¦ They said." "" You want my kids to leave me? "" "" Listen, the communiste will regain to power. "" "That one, he raises pigs." "" Wasn't it good under the communists?" "" Didn't we manage to live well? "" "Another one, Vasile, his daughter is a school teacher in Bucharest." "" When my daughter will hear that ", he told me..." "" I want to die in my own bed. "" " And his daughter, does she know what he was?" " Of course she knows." "And your child, he knows?" "Just go there and keep searching over there." "You're stuck here, or what..." "Your child, he knows?" "My child is very upset against me, madam." "In the recording done with the Professor," "You said that you couldn't resist more than a month." "At the end of a month, I felt I was turning mad." "Once, I stayed there two months." "Did you also tortured common law prisonners?" "That arrived." "I heard you also tortured teenagers." "Is it true?" "Once we had a pilot, a young boy, practically a child." "He attempted to flee with the plane." "I did him a torpedoing." "What's that, torpedoing?" "Electrocution on his feet." "That is electric shock treatment." " Same as for bees?" " Yes, same as for bees." "Later, she kicked himon his testicles." "He wasn't dead yet, but he couldn't speak anymore." "Then she burned his testicules with a cigarette." " Always that girl, she was doing it?" " Yes, her..." "Other times, (she) made me do it..." "Who made you?" "She did." "And all this time, she..." "She, what?" "About what does Franz Tandara dream?" "All those who did as I did, they dream the same way." "Very bad dreams." "I dream about those who, when we remained alone..." "Fell on their knees and implored me to spare them." "My only concern was not to leave any marks." "There was one, Marin Constantinescu," "Who took charge of our education." "He said:" "" We appear on certain lists"" "" Saying that we are commiting crimes agains humanity."" "" You understand?"" "" Crimes against humanity."" "" Be careful not to commit crimes against humanity"." "" No blood." "Hidden."" "" No blood. "" "It was its favorite expression." "" No blood. "" "Then we gave up kicking the testicles," "As it's been a crime against humanity." "Then the woman came and showed us" "How to beat them with sandbags." "They were stockings filled with sandat the bottom." "They left no track," "Not even red spots on the skin." "But the lungs detached." "The person was spitting and then died." "What else do you dream of?" "I dream about the patients in room N2 in the hospital." "About 20 beds." "There were madmen, real ones," "But there were also a few, one or two, brought for questioning." "My task was to prevent them from sleeping all night long." "Somebody came to me and told me:" "" Look, the fat one in the bed number X"" "As soon as he fell asleep, I struck him with the sandbag." "There were about 20 patients in that room," "Well, not even one..." "You understand?" "Not even one... ever tried to help another, none ever jumped at me." "Naturally, I had a big bat under my bed." "How much did they pay you for what you were doing over there?" "5 000 lei." " What was a regular salary, at that time?" " A few hundreds of lei." "But I couldn't do it for more than 3 months." "How did you return in there?" "They relieved me of duty during the winter of '55." "The night of Christmas 1955." "I was very confused." "My place, it was over there..." "I couldn't live with my freedom." "Freedom terrified me." " How much did you remain outside?" " About nine months." "Unfortunately, I didn't have any talent for foreign languages." "What's the connection here?" "If I'd learned a foreign language," "They would have sent me abroad." "To do what?" "To terminate one or another." "And then I'd have returned..." "But, I didn't have talent for languages, so I remained here." "After almost one year of wandering through the country..." "I returned to them." "Today, almost 50 years later," "Do you imagine yourself outside the danger of killing a man?" "No, I don't feel outside of this danger." "On the contrary, I'm afraid that I could do it again." " You smoke?" " Yes, a lot, more than two packs a day." "And during all this interview, you've been able to refrain yourself?" "I've a lot of will." "Yes, I have that." "Of what are you afraid?" "Didn't you become more..." "More human?" "Non, I haven't become more human." "My nerves have weakened." "I'm not capable anymore even to bandage a wound," "I can't bear seeing the blood anymore..." "Maybe, more human, Or rather a nervous breakdown." "My wife, she knows about it." "She never asks me to sacrifice a chicken." "But my daughter-in-law, she's deliberately doing it." "Laughing, she says:" "" Who's going to kill the chicken?" "A man should do that... "" "Yes, my nerves are weakened." "I even wanted to see a psychiatrist, to tell if I'm sick." "Rumania!" """Tandara, informer,"" ""The one selling the country away""" """Tandara, little dick"" ""We're going to fuck you, man""" """Tandara, you've got no balls" ""You sell the country for dollars""" """The sold,"" ""Out of the country!""" "That's enough, the lads!" "Dad!" "Do you hear me, dad?" "Come here, I've got something to tell you." "What are you doing, dickhead?" "Good afternoon, Miss." "Mr. Professor, I greet you." "Tell me, dickhead, what do you think you're doing?" "I told you to calm down, didn't I?" "Why son't you want to calm down?" "Why?" "You want to confess?" "Go see a priest, and confess." "Hear the bells?" "It's close." "Go and confess." "" Please, Forgive me, Father, as I have sinned."" "" I played with the dead,"" "" I fucked them in the ass. "" "But no, you don't go cto see the priest, you dickhead." "You go to Radio-dustbin." "You do it to your whole homeland!" "You sell it!" "Your homeland, that's all you have." "You sell it and you shit on it." "How much did they pay you for that?" "You pretend you've got balls." "You hang up the phone in front of Mr Teodoresco." "You hang up the phone in front of him?" "Hey, dickhead, do you see my pals over there?" "You see them?" "Dickhead, we're going to set you on fire." "Shouldn't we do it..." "We're going to see the game now." "Listen up:" "We kick their ass, and on the way back we set you on fire." "Got that, dad?" "We set you on fire." "It was Ticuta." "He's going to see the game with his pals." "He is very angry." "Very angry on me." "May God not take him away from me." "Bring us some honey." "Old monkey!" "Stick it up your ass!" "Dirty blind bitch!" "Old bag, blow me." "Kiss my ass!" "Come on, my baby My baby..." "There, there, stop crying, I am here." "I'm going to bring you some honey." "Me, I steal everything." "This profession, I've stolen it from a Hungarian." "He said:" "" The profession must be stolen, if you're smart."" "" Don't steal anything except for the profession and the knowledge. "" "And I stole!" "Go bring me the small axe." "It's a metaphor." "Because if I stole your hive..." "Sure that it's a metaphor." "It's true." "It's a metaphor." "It's what I say." "It's a metaphor..." "Don't steal the goods of others." "But the profession, steal it." "It's a metaphor." "The ancient Greeks said:" "" The beekeeping and the theft, they're sacred. "" "You read that somewhere?" "I read it, Mr Luci." " It's a paradox, Tandara." " I know." "What' that white flag doing here?" "It's the flag of beekeepers from Giurgiu." "Before, I wandered all over the country with my bees." "Now, I'm old." "I took my hives with me." "It's so beautiful, our country!" "Why go somewhere else, when you have such a beautiful country?" "I've never been abroad, not even to Bulgaria." "You're allright, my beautiful?" "You're beautiful." "Are you beautiful!" "I'd like to ask you another question." "You said you tortured a dying person," "You "practiced" on him." "With a woman." "Which woman?" "The same woman?" "Stop asking those questions." "Please, stop torturing him like that." "Sorry." "" Sorry, sorry... "" "In your opinion, how many persons died like that?" "Maybe a hundred, only with me." "You said a hundred?" "On the tape recorded with the Professor," "You said you've done a "good job " Of which you're ashamed." "It was going well, the job." "I was good at what I was doing." "I couldn't do it anymore, They started loving me." ""Loving"?" "Who loved you?" "Those were the good things." "And there are other things I cannot speak of..." "It's too hard." "Why did you keep those pictures?" "Which relation you've..." "Madam, don't you understand?" "Do I speak Chinese?" "Leave the damn pictures alone!" "You'd better knock him in the head with this axe, please, kill him, but stop torturing him." "I'm begging on my knees." "Your train, when is it?" "At 8 8:15 At 8:23 ..." "Well, then, make sure you don't miss it!" "C'mon, help me clear the table, they must be in a hurry." "Here's the hatchet you were seekeing." "She doesn't want me to tell anything, and neither does her son." "Nobody wants..." "The honey, are you still eating it?" "No, you're not." "She is very angry on me." "His son is angry, too." "They are all very angry..." "Everybody's very angry..." "I'm very confused." "I wanted to be judged by somebody." "I can not be my own judge..." "I seeked the chindren of those whom I'd made suffer." "" Please, return tomorrow... or on Wednesday..."" "Nobody wants to listen." "What should I do?" "Wait to die so God judges me?" "Maybe." "But I want to do something over here, too." "To do something good, as of the evil, I made enough of it." "I seeked the Professor, some 5 years ago," "To the Association of the Former Prisoners." "Poor man, he fell asleep again..." "He is very tired." "I wanted those who sufferd to judge me..." "Then when I've seen that not even him seem to care..." "I keep silent." "What did I tell you?" "It's nothing, nothing compared to what happened." "One day, madam, you children will be grateful." "They'll be proud of the example given by your husband." "Oh, madam Not even my grandson..." "When he will be a grown-up, he will not forgive me..." "" Oh, such an idiot grandfather..." "Oh, what a disgusting grandfather... "" "" Tandara, come here!" "Stay there, on your four paws, you stupid dog. "" "I doubt if they'll refrain from making me sleep in the doghouse." "That, I seized it from a prisoner." "A Sas (german ethnic), named Reiter." "He had it attached to the bars of the cell's window." "He never wantd to say how he got it..." "May he rest in peace." "It's in this train that I embarqued my old aunt, 50 years ago." "I was a child then." "I liked her." "The second time, She couldn't escape the death." "It's me, I killed her." "How did you kill her?" "" Take her far from here ", Said my father." "" I don't want to see her anymore. "" "" And where should I take her? "" "" In Hell, or wherever you want." "Don't return her here anymore, "" "" Or I'll kill you. "" "" I'll kill you, and I'll also kill her "" "" I'll kill you both. "" "" Stay here! "" "" Don't you dare to return home, you old whitch! "" "" If you keep following me, I'll kill you. "" "Then she cursed me:" "" May the plague take you all. "" "" Why do you curse me?" "I didn't do anything to you. "" "" I believed that you had you good heart, that you loved me. "" "" What can I do?" "It's your brother... "" "From time to time, she turned her head like a beaten dog" "And then, she saw me there..." "Stayng there, with my bat." "She understood that if she turns back," "If she doesn't obey," "I'd beat her up." "Nobody ever heard of her again." "Wolves may have eaten here over there, on these hills." "Thats how they all died." "The last one to die was Dounia." "Alcoholic, in the last degree." "She burned alive because of a cigarette." "Or maybe she set herself on fire, then threw herself through the window..." "I don't remember anymore." "I'd like to ask you another question." "You said you tortured a dying person," "You "practiced" on him." "With a woman." "Which woman?" "The same woman?" "Stop asking those questions." "Please, stop torturing him like that." "Sorry." "" Sorry, sorry... "" "In your opinion, how many persons died like that?" "Maybe a hundred, only with me." "You said a hundred?" "English subtitle translation amotostivuitoritei@fileheaven ;)" "Subtitling TVS" " TITLED FILM"