"Amy, I've got a child abduction with weird photos coming in, no ransom demand, and my team needs licking into shape." "I have a reputation for treading on toes, so forgive me." "Nothing personal." "I've got steel-capped shoes." "Shin pads?" "I'm late." "Three weeks late." "That's your problem." "The SOCOs are here, what do you want to do?" "You're the boss." "I think I am, actually." "Get those clothes off." "Indoors, I'm the boss!" "All other cases have been taken off your hands." "You've requested five dozen officers." "I must be worried." "You are." "Doctor Newel, morning." "Morning." "Er...yeah, I left and now I'm back." "We're looking for anything and everything that links these two boys." ""Sacred." What's that about?" "We've received an email from the people who are holding James and Alfie." "They've also sent us a film." "This is the film." "'We hold that all life is sacred." "'The termination you are watching now is of a 15-week-old foetus.'" ""Therefore, to concentrate our minds we have taken children from women who have previously had abortions" ""and unless the attached film is shown on BBC One" ""at 1pm, 6pm and 10pm tonight..." ""..these boys' lives will be terminated."" "Course." "Yes, understood." "Jenny, I have a press conference." "I'm with him now." "Straight away." "Absolutely." "Thank you." "Not word for word, but that's the gist of what I'm going to say." "There is no press conference." "What do you mean "no"?" "We need one." "It's a directive from the Home Office." "There's to be no acknowledgement or reference to the ultimatum." "We have no handle on these people." "We need to draw them out." "There is a policy of zero tolerance towards any persons attempting to achieve their aims by abduction, threats of murder..." "Really?" "So for the greater good, and in the interest of zero tolerance, these children are expendable, are they?" "That's exactly the same position these kidnappers are taking." "Cleverer minds than yours devised this strategy, Iain." "Have they read this ultimatum?" "Because these people claim they're being ignored." "To ignore them again, I think, is provocative and not in Alfie's and James' best interests." "Iain." "We have less than three hours until 1 o'clock." "I need to buy us time!" "Is that a resignation speech?" "What's happening?" "No press conference." "We're not acknowledging it." "Orders from on high." "Give forensics a hurry-up." "That's going to take at least 24 hours." "The biggest crime committed by anti-abortionists to date is sending pictures of terminated foetuses to head teachers and hospital managers." "Yeah, OK." "Put it in the system." "Want to point us in any...?" "What are you doing?" "Trying to think." "Yeah." "What do you want to do about this?" "McCauley's back." "Good, it'll free up DI Larson." "Just keep an eye on her." "Yeah." "No, I'm wondering how Detective Inspector Larson is going to take working under Detective Sergeant Foster." "Oh, for God's sake!" "Mr McCauley, you're running the office." "Yes, a word." "Zoe, I need you back on the team, but I also need a number two with experience, so Amy's staying as my DSIO." "I'm sorry if that's not..." "Fine, understood." "Great." "OK." "I want..." "Yeah, can you do this not here?" "That film, have another look at it, see if there's anything that might tell us where the footage was taken, which hospital, which clinic..." "Yep, good, onto it." "All right, John?" "All right, Ben." "Cheers mate, I'll see you later." "Miles." "Miles, Amy, you too." "OK, let's attack this from another angle." "The boys were taken within 20 minutes of each other but 50 miles apart, so we know at least two people are involved." "Then they were brought together." "We know where these email photos were sent from, and at what time they were sent." "So, we've got the motorway services, Westminster, and we know what time the clothes were delivered to Birmingham." "Now looking at timings and locations, one person could've done them all." "So let's use the backroom function - number-plate recognition." "and if any car or vehicle is in two or more of these places at the specified times..." "We've got 'em." "I'm on it!" "You're quite smart sometimes, aren't you?" "Not overly - just enough and every so often." "Sarge, Guv, Alfie's mum says yes, she had an abortion ten years ago, local hospital, NHS." "James' mum says no, she hasn't had one." "Hasn't?" "!" "Hasn't." "Never had one." "For..." "Where does that leave us?" "!" "Wait a minute, hang on." "We have barely two hours." "How much do the families know about the details of the ultimatum?" "Nothing, I just got the FLOs to ask the question." "Not everyone gives up that kind of information lightly." "You think she's lying?" "No, no, I'm not saying that." "No, no, you could be right." "Ask her for her medical records." "That's not necessarily going to prove anything." "Course it is!" "Dress it up, ask for the whole family's, cloak it." "Excuse me, can we speak?" "Please don't spout shit unless you know what you're talking about." "If a termination is done in a private clinic, it remains private." "The clinic is not allowed to tell your GP without your say-so." "It doesn't go on the medical record?" "Not unless you want it to, no." "Are you sure about that?" "Positive." "To the power of three!" "You've had...?" "Sorry, is that too many for you?" "Obviously something that's never touched your sheltered little life." "On the contrary..." "Really?" "How many abortions have you had?" "Well, by association, one, that I know of." "Yeah, course, all those one night stands you impregnated, cos you're so fucking irresistible!" "She's denied us access to her medical records." "Well, sort this out for me." "Has she or hasn't she had an abortion?" "That means telling her everything." "If we're telling one, we're telling all." "Right, OK." "Bring both families in." "Mrs Speddings, we've got a room set aside for you." "Just arriving." "Good." "You don't have to make any speeches, just let them read it." "If you've got any...questions..." "No." "Don't want you reading that." "You can see now why we were asking you about your abortion." "Again, the same question!" "Because if your wife has had an abortion, we can go after these people by finding out where they got that information." "But she hasn't, and we've told you she hasn't." "Right, and I apologise." "But I had to ask before shutting down our main line of enquiry." "January 4th, 2006, the Cadogan Clinic, Oxford." "Sorry that date again?" "January 4th, 2006." "Whose was it?" "Whose was it?" "Yours." "It was yours." "I'm sorry, forgive me, I have to pass this on." "I don't even deserve a conversation about this?" "Who's with the Speddings?" "So a little bird told me that there was a prom dance coming up soon." "Is this right?" "Yeah." "So who are you going to go with?" "Nathan." "You're going to go with Nathan?" "Yeah." "Have you asked him?" "Yeah." "And he's agreed?" "Yeah." "She's had one!" "Terrific, great(!" ") The best part of an hour wasted - fabulous(!" ") It's almost 12!" "Will you input that Jodie?" "How's it going?" "The film shows five abortions, seven weeks, 11 weeks, 15, 20, and 24 weeks." "Five different clips, which I've been trying to trace on the internet cos there's plenty of abortion footage out there, so far, none of it's duplicated in Sacred's film." "I mean that is clearly not surreptitiously filmed." "Who has access to footage like that?" "The Welfare Trust, the BMA?" "Yes..." "Amy, Zoe..." "Nick, Miles, everyone!" "An hour to go, time to gamble, get your heads in gear." "Now let's make some assumptions." "The boys both know their abductors." "That's why no-one saw them being taken." "They went willingly and it was so unremarkable because the abductors were women." "A man with a child, people notice, a woman with a child, no-one does." "I'm gambling, but stay with me." "We're looking for women, two women at least, and these boys were selected because their mothers had abortions." "So we're looking for women who have access to their medical records." "When I go to the doctors all I see are women - secretaries, nurses..." "The families have different health centres." "A woman in each health centre, someone who's worked in both, cross reference, and get the medical records for the families, and the employee lists for their GPs." "Gamble!" "What?" "I went to a casino with you once." "We're looking for women." "Breakthrough, breakthrough!" "Shit!" "Guv, you struck gold - backroom function, number-plate recognition." "Close to the specified times, we have got the same number plate in or around all three locations." "First off, we have this car at the M1 service area going north - that's where we got the photos from." "Yeah, but heading north?" "Yeah, but the car turned round because then at 10:37, the same car is seen entering London." "At 11:15, it's seen on the Embankment, and then at 13:10, it's seen at the Scratchwood Services, and at 17:12 he's seen entering Birmingham, and we know that the clothes were dropped off at 17:49." "Yeah, whose car is it?" "I'm looking for it now, it's coming up, it's coming up, anytime now." "Yes!" "It's a Mr John William Elder, Flat three, Hilldrop House." "Outside our area!" "Yeah, I'm passing it on!" "I'm back at the casino." "It's a man." "This is what we've been working for!" "John William what?" "!" "Elder, E-L-D-E-R flat three, Hilldrop House." "Yeah, yeah, I've got the address!" "Date of birth?" "Er...12.08.62!" "And anything else?" "Margaret?" "Oh, I left my prescription pad here last night." "How's the head?" "Eh?" "Oh, it's much better now." "Good, stay off the drink." "Yes, yep." "I was in again last night, Terrible about these two boys." "Yeah, we're getting somewhere." "We're onto one of the abductors." "Good." "What about the film?" "The abortion film, think they'll show it at 1 o'clock?" "Nah, nah, there's no way." "McCauley!" "Yes?" "We've got a coffee machine without coffee, a printer without paper." "Would you get your act together?" "I'm on it, watch me!" "I left..." "This is the breakthrough." "This is the lead we need." "We can make headway with this, but we're running out of time." "Iain, there can be no negotiation with these people." "I don't want to negotiate." "Then what do you want?" "Show the film." "Show the film!" "Just once, why not?" "Everything it shows is lawful." "This is ridiculous!" "What, it's in bad taste, is it?" "Two boys' lives are at risk." "We can get these people, but not by one o'clock." "You push this one more time and I will suspend you for serious misjudgement." "John, they're onto you." "Where are you?" "Just swapping over to the hire van." "OK." "Stay off the main road." "Yeah, yeah, OK." "We are going somewhere special, a place where on Wednesdays... you have to turn up in a van, cos Wednesday is vansday - Wednesday/Vansday." "What happens the rest of the week?" "Well, Thursday is Fursday - you have to wear a fur coat..." "Ooh, there you go." "Let's get your seat belt on." "Friday is Fry-up day - can't get in without fish and chips." "Saturday, you need a chair," "Sunday... a fake tan, and Monday, they're shut!" "But what is it?" "There you are." "What is this place?" "Ha ha!" "Guv, John Elder." "Registered disabled, Spina Bifida, works for the local council as a school bus driver." "Julie!" "Photo of John Elder, get his face out there!" "See, I get this from here!" "I want them in Elder's house going through his things, his papers - I want to know who he is!" "Keep going." "I need information!" "We've only got 20 minutes until the 1 o'clock news and the boy's deadline is up." "They've found Elder's car!" "Light blue hatch back, yeah, yeah, yeah." "It was parked in a side street." "Forensics are all over it." "They've also found in the boot, a silver scooter, like the one used in the drop-off." "But what's he travelling in now?" "School minibus, Elder collected a 6-year-old girl from her school for a hydrotherapy session an hour ago." "A ten minute trip." "They haven't arrived." "We haven't passed the deadline." "We'll get this bloke." "Yeah, but not in the next four minutes!" "No, so show the bloody film." "Thank you, yes, not helpful." "Well, I'm serious!" "Yes, that's why you're a DC and you'll stay a DC." "Do you want every Looney Tune kidnapping someone so that they can get their cause on telly?" "!" "TV: 'And now on BBC One, the News." "'At one o'clock the Government pledges relief funds to Humberside 'after 7,000 homes are evacuated." "'As China is confirmed as the EU's largest trading partner, Brussels and Beijing agree a new treaty." "'Travellers face airport chaos as 500 baggage handlers and check-in staff 'at Gatwick and Stansted announce a 24-hour strike." "'And Police believe the shirts delivered to the BBC 'are those belonging to the two missing seven year olds.'" "They're not showing the film." "No, it's time." "Maybe they won't do it." ""All life is sacred"." "You think they will." "Guv, I've just come across Dr Newel in James's medical file," "Margaret Newel, one of our police doctors." "I know her." "She's prescribed inhalers for James." "I called the practice." "She works at the Richards' GP." "What can I tell her?" "I'm going to ring her to see if she can help." "Yeah." "Wait a minute, she was in earlier." "Yeah, last night, yeah." "No, this afternoon." "What, to help out?" "Don't know." "She was talking to McCauley." "McCauley, you were talking to Dr Newel earlier." "Yeah, yeah, she'd forgotten something." "She knows James." "Did she give any information about him?" "Well, she said it was terrible about the boys." "What she didn't even name him?" "No." "Nick, find out if she's ever been a locum at Alfie's medical centre." "What else did she say?" "Everyone was shouting about Elder so I said something about, we've got a line on one of the abductors, and then she asked me if we were going to show the film." "I'm not sure what she meant..." "Whoa." "What do you mean?" "!" "Well, when Amy arrived..." "How could she could possibly know about the film?" "Did she overhear someone?" "You passed her." "As she came in, you were going upstairs." "Er...no, that was all about Elder, the film wasn't the issue." "Yes, Dr Margaret Newel, have you ever had her as a locum?" "You have." "Miles, Amy, Dyer!" "Where does she live?" "Shit!" "Get her address, and everything, anything anyone knows about her!" "What do you want me to do?" "Track the film down!" "Connor." "That's why we got the emails!" "So she could keep tabs on us." "She also knows the system." "Knows if other forces are involved, it slows us down." "Have we got the address?" "Yeah." "We need the sheet." "Nick, next door!" "Guv!" "Neighbour has keys." "And that's Dr Newel's car." "When was she last seen?" "Set up an open line between here and Elder's place, please." "Come on, help us out." "I need a door opened up here!" "Where do we put it?" "No-one's seen her for two weeks." "The car's been here, no contact details, no known second home, no second car." "We're checking rental firms now." "Did you ever have dealings with her?" "Said hello." "What did you make of her?" "You spent time with her last night." "Er...nice woman." "I mean, you asked." "You know, for a doctor, I mean they're all a bit... distant, bit superior, but she didn't seem any worse than the rest." "Newel and Elder." "Newel and Elder." "Yeah? "2007, medical and welfare panel."" "Yeah, I'm with him." "Right, have you sent it through to Miles?" "Yeah." "Sorry..." "Guv!" "Yeah, Miles, we know." "Any message with this?" "The subject heading reads, "Show the film"." "Yes?" "It's only a photo." "I mean, it's not definite." "The camera-phone that sent this has been left on." "They're homing in on it now." "You, me, and Dyer." "Yep." "Let's scan this list and photo and get them over to DI Larson." "Quick as we can!" "I'm OK, really." "Anything I can do?" "No, thanks." "I thought I was pregnant and now I'm not." "Tears of joy." "Lucky escape!" "I was with Nick." "Nick, DS Dyer, but he's got someone else so... best thing for everyone." "Right, well, do you need to go home?" "Best to keep busy." "Oh, I was only three weeks late." "DI Larson?" "Yep?" "Sorry, the boss is on the phone." "You left it on your desk." "Sir...yeah." "Miles has copied a list and a photo to you." "They are all potential suspects in the abduction, have you got them?" "I was away from my desk, just getting there." "It's a contact list from June 2007 for a pro-life planning committee that was contributing to the 40th anniversary abortion law events, demonstrations, and there are 18 names, including John Elder and Dr Margaret Newel." "OK, I'm looking at it." "They're all in Healthcare and Social Services." "These are work addresses, work numbers." "Some are way outside our area, but we need every name traced, interviewed and eliminated." "TIE the lot of them, and do any of them have alternative contact details for Newel and Elder?" "Start with the two that work at the local hospital." "Yep, OK, leave it with me." "Sue!" "Sue, I need you." "I should be back with the Speddings." "You're doing this now." "I'll find a replacement." "So I'll take the local ones." "You farm the rest out." "Like these are Bedfordshire, yeah?" "Got it." "How are you?" "We're..." "We're all right." "Get here OK?" "Yeah." "How's Louisa?" "She took the drink and yeah, good as gold." "I put her in here." "That's OK, isn't it?" "Mm-hm." "Where's Alfie?" "Where's the boy?" "Where's Alfie?" "With you, he's with you." "He wasn't here, so I assumed..." "Someone's taken him!" "I'll check outside..." "Somebody's taken him." "He's unconscious, he's on Thiopental!" "We didn't top him up." "We missed the one o'clock dose." "Guv, I've got some updates on John Elder and that girl." "Her name is Louisa Chambers." "She's six years old and has Spina Bifida." "Like Elder." "Yeah, except hers is chronic, Elder's just got this limp." "But every testament we're getting on this guy is positive." "What do you mean?" "He's got the MBE for his charity work." "It's John Elder MBE." "What're we doing, is this it?" "Where are we?" "Yeah, hi." "Right, yeah, right, yeah." "Speak to me, talk to me!" "We've turned off there." "I'm in a car-park." "What's going on?" "!" "He's finding out, give him a break!" "Right, hang on a sec." "They can't pinpoint a phone signal." "Not enough masts, reference points." "We're in the vicinity but..." "What are we doing?" "They're sending out the dogs." "We're waiting on the dogs." "Detective inspector Zoe Larson." "Would you mind taking a look at this list for me, Mr Assad?" "Your name is on it." "The pro-life panel, yes." "We supply information and data on abortion issues from a medical and/or welfare perspective." "You're anti-abortionists." "Not all, no." "I, for example, advise on psychological traumas associated with late terminations, and I would lower the upper time limit, but I'm not anti-abortion." "This is us, yes." "May I ask what you're investigating?" "We're looking to contact Dr Margaret Newel and John Elder." "Alfie!" "Alfie!" "This one here is a neonatal nurse in this hospital." "Hannah Crowley." "Her name I don't know, as I say, no-one was unfriendly but we were focused on our objectives and I'm sorry I can't be of more help." "Thank you." "Can you direct me to the neonatal unit?" "Detective Inspector Zoe Larson." "I'm looking for Hannah Crowley." "James's parents?" "The Assistant Chief Constable's with them." "Is she?" "Good, as it should be." "Fix up the perimeter." "Well..." "Yeah, and they have two more children." "Yep?" "They've found John Elder's minibus." "What minibus?" "The school bus." "The one he picked the girl up in." "It was in a side street with no CCTV, there's no properties overlooking it, but Elder also rented a navy blue van this morning and our function's picked it up coming off the bypass eight miles north of here, 40 minutes ago." "He hasn't come out the other side, so he's still in the area." "Right, I'm coming back." "You interview them at work or at home." "Well, wherever they are." "Correct, yes, thank you." "I've had it with you!" "I've had it, do you hear?" "You were lookin' after us!" "Me Mum's going mental!" "Whoa, whoa, what you doing?" "No it's all right, leave her." "Update on the blue van!" "What's going on?" "Never seen such determination, he was like a little..." "I'm the one who's here." "Hello?" "I'm looking for Hannah Crowley." "You've found her." "DI Zoe Larson." "Oh." "I need to ask you a few questions." "Do you want to come in?" "Thank you." "Would you like a cup of tea?" "No, thanks." "I think I'll have one." "I've been working out in the shed." "Please, take a seat." "Dr Margaret Newel and John Elder." "You know them?" "Yes." "Are they all right?" "We're trying to contact them." "Do you have any addresses or phone numbers for them?" "Yes, of course," "There you are." "Thank you." "How's your grandfather?" "I gather you had to leave work last night to look after him." "Yes, he's much better, thank you." "Yes, he's upstairs." "Hannah Crowley, I am arresting..." "Oh, God, oh, God." "(Margaret...) Margaret!" "Margaret!" "Margaret, Margaret!" "I had to use the Fentanyl!" "You used what?" "!" "I know, but it's only a child's dose." "It could still kill her." "I'll stay here and deal with it." "You take the boy away." "They've done it, haven't they?" "They have, they've done it!" "As far as we know, Alfie is still alive, but I have to tell you that the other boy James is dead." "Now I need to ask you some questions." "How did they do it?" "Until the post-mortem exam..." "My boy's next, how did they do it?" "I would expect to be told it was by injection." "Please look at these." "This doctor sometimes works in your health centre." "I've never seen her." "Yes?" "The BMA film library's come back." "The exact same abortion clips that were used in the Sacred film were loaned out to a Hannah Crowley, a neonatal nurse." "Right, hang on." "No, wait..." "Elder has Spina Bifida which gives him a very pronounced limp if..." "No, we..." "We don't know them." "Or Hannah Crowley?" "A nurse, a neonatal nurse." "Hannah, yeah, she lives in our flats." "Well, used to." "Her granddad died, she moved out to his place." "Guv, sorry, Amy needs you." "The Speddings know Hannah Crowley!" "Yeah, well, we've got a problem, I'm coming down to you." "What's up?" "Hannah Crowley was on that list." "She's one of the names DI Larson was TIE-ing." "Where's Larson now?" "She went to the hospital, to the neonatal unit where Crowley works." "They gave her the same address we got from the film libraries." "We've sent squad cars but she could be round there on her own." "She doesn't know what she's walking into." "Have you called her?" "Phone's switched off." "Her personal phone, who's got that number?" "Nick." "Already ringing it." "Answer phone." "Don't leave a message that gives them anything." "Hi, call us back." "I need help." "You, pass me that." "I'll call an ambulance!" "I've called one!" "Pass me that!" "No sign of the children?" "Zoe!" "She's been given something called Fentanyl, it stops the breathing." "Is she gonna make it?" "Where are the children?" "Show the film at six and Alfie will be returned." "Show it again at ten and Louisa will be returned." "Guv?" "We've got a visual on Elder's hire van." "Guv." "We've got him." "Nick, we've got Elder." "'3.5 to base." "We've apprehended Elder and the little girl is safe and well." "'No sign of Hannah Crowley or Alfie Speddings.'" "Sorry." "Wrong room." "'Show the film.'" "'So Alfie is with Hannah?" "'" "Yes, he is." "No games." "Show the film." "Tell me where Alfie is?" "I don't know where Alfie is." "Alfie or Hannah." "I don't know where either of them are." "Elder is going to talk, you know that don't you?" "So you might as well tell us first." "Tell me what type of car they're travelling in." "You know that, don't you?" "Talk to me, John!" "Why are you wasting time?" "You've got under two hours." "Show the film." "Nine out of ten women who test positive for Spina Bifida abort their babies." "Nine out of ten!" "That's nine out of ten people like Louisa and myself who are not allowed to be." "Make of car?" "Today," "I would not be allowed to be." "What make of car are they in?" "!" "Show the film." "Show the film." "She's got it all worked out." "That's it!" "That's your big idea?" "They're evidently not!" "I'll appeal to their sense of goodness." "Well, what's your idea?" "Have you got a better idea?" "Quite!" "Now, I want each of you and every available car out there, spread yourselves wide!" "You can stop this." "They won't show the film." "Well, that's a choice, isn't it?" "That's not the way they look at it." "But it is." "For us as well, but also for you." "We decide on this course, you decide not to show a film of a legal procedure." "You know, we tried every other way for so long." "So long." "But in the end, what can you do?" "How else do you say 200,000 lives lost every year is bad for the soul?" "And probably Sacred is wrong too." "People flinch." "We thought six million would do something, but we don't like that either or we're immune now." "Then it was, "Well, at least they'll lower the time limit to 22 weeks, 20 maybe."" "And here we are, carrying out repulsive acts, but in the certain knowledge that, when they're known about, and when we're tried they will be known about, that they'll save more lives than they cost." "But Margaret, you can have it both ways." "You can make your point and show mercy." "And Alfie's mother is in this building, waiting." "Yes." "So for her and the child and your cause and Hannah..." "Why does Hannah have to kill as well?" "To kill a child..." "Yes, it's awful, but unless you show the film at six o'clock," "Hannah is as committed as I am." "Margaret..." "I have nothing more to say." "At least tell us where they are." "I always wonder..." "You make a move." "Are you getting closer or further away?" "Come on!" "Please!" "For the mother, for the boy!" "You crying, that is just sick!" "So what happens now?" "I don't know how she'll manage on her own, there were two of us for James." "Yeah, let's just spin it out for his mum, shall we?" "So you can do your little tableau with the flowers in the hair, and, I don't know, maybe... maybe Hannah will do a runner and we'll never find the body." "We're not trying to get away with this." "We do know what we've done." "You're a callous piece of shit!" "You can know where he is now." "Well, aren't you the decent one?" "!" "They're not far from here." "They're on the Betteswood Estate." "They're by the entrance to the Woodland Walk, where the gate is." "There's a rough..." "I know it!" "On the south side of the Estate." "Just before you get to Marland village!" "Thank you for being decent(!" ")" "That's not the right time." "We put the clock forward." "Police!" "Out!" "Out!" "Get out!" "Hannah!" "Hannah, Hannah, Hannah!" "Move!" "Watching for sharps, watching the needle!" "Put your arms behind your back." "Don't move!" "Two women and a man are now in custody and..." "Alfie Speddings, the other little boy, has been recovered safely." "Eight, nine weeks..." "What?" "Eight, nine weeks..." "You and me..." "Yeah." "And Sue Mailer... was three weeks overdue." "Yeah, I'm good at maths." "Sue, you coming for a drink?" "No, thanks." "Sarge?" "Drink?" "I'm spoken for." "Night, lads." "Night." "Night, Guv." "PHONE RINGS" "Come on." "Pour this down your throat." "What're you looking at?" "Cassiopeia." "Oh, Cassiopeia." "Where?" "Follow my finger." "That star and...follow the finger..." "And it's a Queen sitting in a chair, yeah." "See the back of the chair?" "See it?" "Yeah." "I've got to tell you, it's not just you, you can point all you like but that could be anything!" "Except a Queen sitting in a chair, it's definitely not that!" "I'm sorry if I upset you over, you know..." "You've got to finish the sentence." "Yeah, over my reaction to your abortions." "Look, I don't want children, never have done, I never will do." "I can't even look after myself." "Thank God for abortions, I say." "It would've ruined my life." "Would it?" "Look, look, look, look, there!" "What?" "There." "Where?" "There!" "Can't work them out." "How could you kill a child if "all life is sacred"?" "They're insane." "You think they're mad?" "Well, it's them or us." "Just stop thinking about it now." "transcript:chocolate sync:innuit"