""INTONATSIYA EXAMPLE"" "I think there was because I was soaked last night." " Soaked?" " Typical cold." "In the morning, I found a cold sore on my lip." "I rinsed it several times during the night." "And I'm taking these pills." "...since it's winter and it's cold, ...and all the accidents and so on, then everything would crash." "Everything would crash." "That is why everyone in our country thinks of oneself as a democrat..." "Everything is fucked up." "So let's imagine such a situation." "The system will crash at once." "And then all those democrats may leave." "And that would be us thinking about ourselves and leaving the people on their own at that moment..." "A political struggle usually happens at the expense of the people." "That's right." "There is no another way." "I told them it's harder for me than anyone else." "They lash out at me, sling mud at me more than at anyone else." "Of course, it's difficult to constantly be under such psychological pressure, ...but, on the other hand, ...of course now, ...when people don't have much left in terms of hope..." "Well, I don't know." "Even putting people in that mood," "...creating in them a feeling of uncertainty..." "Stripping away what little remains of their sense of security." "That's not very smart." "There is no logic in it." "That's right." "No logic." "It's all emotions." " Do we go this way?" " We can go this way..." "Or that way." "Be careful." " Good morning." " Hello." "They say we need to get ready in case if all that goes down." "That's tactics, not strategy." "It is a different thing what one thinks to oneself if these are only thoughts..." "In fact, one needs to be certain." "If he is going to give a speech at the Congress, ...he needs to be confident, ...needs to create a constructive program." "Have you read this?" "Gorbachev and Yeltzin today." "Boris Nikolayevich..." "Let's sit down." "There's the system for you." "Well, when one talks all the time..." "There's a struggle between systems, a struggle between politicians." "And yet, is there something..." "Does anything give an opportunity..." "There's something in this situation that is inert." "Something neglected." " Yes." " Although, substituting political substance with interpersonal relationships..." "There is no place for boredom." "You may still trust someone," "...but this trust is very relative." "Undoubtedly." "What you're talking about is not characteristic for the system, which your opponent represents." "He couldn't get too far ahead of me." "Of course I was able to get ahead, despite how difficult it was, ...and though I have some remains of it, ...but, in principle, I did break away from its hold." "Not he." "He was held captive by it." "Maybe somewhere inside him..." "And it's understandable, ...maybe it's that person's tragedy." "Maybe he really could have given democracy a chance." "But he turned out to be a captive of the system." " He couldn't..." " Although he might have..." "He couldn't not be a captive of the system, because he didn't make a decision." " Yes." " The decision was made." "He didn't make it." "There is also..." "It seems to me that..." "And yet, everything is more complicated." "This is more complicated, and that is more complicated, ...because, let's say..." "During our conversation yesterday, it seemed to me that the system had influenced you, too, in a way." "You reacted to those publications with such depth and such tragic feelings that it even seemed a little strange to me." "Because how is it possible?" "One may consider betrayal from a person close to you as a tragedy." "But why would you..." "What else would you expect from people with whom you no longer have anything in common?" "You see, Alexandr Nikolaevich, ...it may be my tragedy that in my life in general, ...I haven't had any cases of personal betrayal." "People that..." "For a very long time, you were on a very high level." "And there, betrayal was almost impossible." "Well, I was in industry." "I was in college, I was in school." "And there were so many chances, ...especially considering my character, ...to betray me, even in something small." "So, because I grew up in that environment, ...this kind of betrayal hurts me deeply in my heart." "People are amazing." "And that is an amazing quality for a politician." "Where else would you find a politician who would take it to heart?" "The thing is, ...if people have such a leader, they should accept him, ...and maybe even be thankful for having such a politician." "I believe that one of the main problems if there is such a thing as a "Yeltsin problem."" "If not a "Yeltsin problem," it's society's problem." "Society has a politician with passion, sincerity, ...heart and soul, ...and society should accept him the way he is." "There's no question of forgiving." "There's nothing to forgive." "No harm is being done." "There's nothing to forgive." "But to accept." "Also, Russia is known for treating people brutally." "Unfortunately, it's a tradition stemming from ferity, ...from lack of social civilization." "In a civilized country, ...in newspapers, every day..." "I am not talking about people with position, just regular people." "The day before yesterday, in Pravda, they wrote about Golik "Talentless loudmouth, traitor..."" " You see?" " That level of conversation..." "How much sense does it make for you to lower yourself to that level?" " I am not." " And to react to that?" "What's the point?" "I don't see why you would even read those newspapers." "I can tell you from my own experience, from my life, ...that if a director watches bad movies often, ...he will lose his good taste and sense of proportion." "Why read these political newspapers, which are so often unprofessional?" "Neither in a social, nor in an economical context." "You win." "Everyone tells me the same." "At home, my wife tells me that, my son, son-in-law, the guys..." "Everybody tells me, "Don't read Pravda."" " "Or Soviet Russia."" " There is just no point in that." "That is very important." "Let's go." "It's okay, Boris Nikolayevich." "Give that to me." " Who's home?" " Grandma." "Grandma?" "Where is she?" "Where should we sit?" "Please." "Where are Mom and Dad?" " Mom, could I have ketchup sauce?" " Quiet!" " I don't have any." " I want ketchup." "Haven't had it for a while." "Did you forget the flour?" "Where do you live?" "What country do you live in?" ""Ketchup"?" "Sauce, ketchup." "Having tea, and sugar is good enough." "This is very important to me." "How does a person feel their age?" "What is age?" "Well, first of all, I get tired." "Where before I could..." "When I was 30, 40, ...I could not sleep at all for two, three, four nights in a row and work." "But now, I..." "If I don't sleep at night, I..." "Second, for decades, ...I slept three, three-and-a-half hours, but now..." "If I don't get at least four, five hours of sleep, ...it will show." "Perhaps what also shows..." " ...is the intensity of your daily work?" " Yes." "Because of that, I can't..." "Even with having an assistant, I can't find any free time." "That constant busy schedule, one thing after another, ...scheduled a month ahead of time, ...every hour of every day." "But life is life." "Something always comes up, ...and the day gets so compressed, ...that the brain can't turn off even for a few minutes." "It's hard." "I didn't feel my age before." "For many decades." "Even when I was involved in sports, but now, I have begun feeling it." "But that doesn't, ...so to say, ...leave a mark on me." "Doesn't make me think, at least yet, that I need to leave, that I'm too old." "Sometimes, even at the hardest times, I push those thoughts aside, ...because when you see that people still believe you, ...that people are still suffering much more than you are," "...that tens of millions of people are suffering more, ...that 40 million people are living a life of poverty, ...then your thoughts keep coming back to them." "What will they do when there is a feeling of complete hopelessness?" "That makes me grind my teeth and force myself to keep going..." "If there was a possibility..." "Every person has this problem, ...but if you were to add something, for example, to your education, ...which area would you want to add to?" "My main issue, for example, is languages." "Learning languages." "Every person has their weak spots." "I have many." "First of all, culture." "You know, I grew up in a village, ...then there was war and all of that." "So museums, books about art..." "I never met a person who would have nudged me in that direction." "So, in my early life, ...I didn't get too much of that." "Later, I consciously began to interest myself with that, began to learn more." "But that was already a bit late, and I can feel the lack of culture." "Languages, undoubtedly." "A civilized leader, especially at this level, ...simply must know two, three languages." " They must." " Well, in Europe, cultures are intermixed." " Yes." " It's in our future." "Yes, but already the level is such that this is necessary." "There should be leaders that are trained." "Society should train leaders in everything, including those aspects." "That's second." "Concerning languages." "Third." "Although I read a lot of books, ...I liked reading about history." "But even so, my knowledge is, ...in a way, ...random, not systematic." "I would hit an interesting topic, ...then another." "But to take one topic and study it in its entirety, that I didn't do." "That, of course, for a leader of this rank, ...for the head of the Russian state, ...is unacceptable." "In regards to personal, political culture," "...of course, ...sometimes I lose my temper," "...my emotions take over." "It shouldn't be such an issue." "I understand, ...as I mentioned in our last conversation, ...that a politician cannot be heartless." "He should be giving a part of his heart to his actions." "But with me, that part is a bit too large, ...so the heart wears out faster." "But that's one thing." "The other thing is that it affects relationships." "Of course, it would be easier for me if people could understand those traits that are considered my shortcomings nowadays," "...because I have to, in many cases, go against my character, ...to force myself in respect to the system." "I had to break myself, torture myself to break away decidedly, without compromise." "I could compromise with some people in certain things." "Ask Gorbachev, others, even those who criticized me at the plenary meeting in 1987, at the Moscow plenary meeting." "I forgave practically all of them." "And when, not too long ago, Alexander Nikolayevich Yakovlev very carefully broached the subject." "He is still worried about his speech from the Central Committee plenary meeting, in which he criticized me after my address, and now he is upset about doing so." "I told him..." "That of all people, ...I believed in his good will toward me, so he didn't have to worry." "I don't keep grudges for long." "Although, in times of such emotional turbulence," "I can be quite dangerous." "Do you often think about your mother?" "Yes, she visited recently, and stayed with us for a month and a half." "Of course she misses us." "She would come and look into my eyes for a long, long time." "Whether she thought it could be the last time, ...or she saw how hard things were for me morally..." "Often, I saw tears in her eyes." "So..." "Even with me, ...surprisingly, ...somethings happening that I didn't even expect." "There was a period when I could never find time for her." "But now, there's a longing to meet with her, to talk," "...touch her hand, ...kiss her, and that makes her cry." "Well, Alexandr Nikolaevich, ...thank you for a heart-to-heart conversation." " It's not easy for me." " Everything will be fine." "Those are pastries with cottage cheese." "Tea?" "Come here." "Here are the plates." "Come sit at the other corner." "Here is tea." "Let's put it on the plate." "Here." "Here are the cups." "And here is milk." "You like it?" "Everyone likes those pastries." " He even looks flushed." " Why?" "Because he doesn't eat any pastries, but this one with cottage cheese, ...he ate, at least once." "Supper..." "Correct." "When it is snowing outside." "It's lighter now, even outside." "It was very dark before." "Dark inside your soul and outside as well." "Could you take pictures of three more women?" " Right now?" " If you don't mind." "Please." "Where would you like to take pictures?" "Where do you want to go?" " We can stay here." " Go to that room." "Close those doors, please."