"TWENTY YEARS IS NOTHING" "We´re reaching the wrap with a party that marks the end of the film and the task of 2 years of workers in crisis." "This is a film no one can miss, the working class has to see it." "This is a job we should be very satisfied of." "Hi." "Hi, how are you?" "Fine, and you?" "It´s been a long time." "Here we go!" "It´s the same old story." "I think it´s here." "Here." "Hello." "Hi." "It´s been so long!" "How are things?" "I haven´t thought about what I´m going to do yet." "I´ll have to do something to live." "What I´ll never do is work under the orders of bosses." "hello." "Don´t you remember me?" "No." "Oh, Jordi!" "I´m going to cry." "please don´t, or I will too." "I guess I´ll keep studying and what´s clear is what many have told me here." "I´m going to try not to work ever again." "I brought you a picture." "Do you know who I am?" "No." "Roca." "Roca, my God!" "Who is he?" "Carlos!" "I didn´t recognize you." "Roca!" "Javi!" "How´s your granddaughter?" "Fine." "You don´t remember your friends?" "Not even me!" "Roca!" "How´s it going?" "These are all friends of your father´s." "They all worked together in a company called" "Numax." "They are all friends of your father´s." "They worked together." "25 years ago there was a terrible struggle and they struggled for the company." "Then they became the owners of the company and agreed to work together." "When the sun heats us here on the beach," "I feel your body vibrate next to me." "Your throbbing, your face, your hair, your kisses make me shiver." "When the sun heats us." "When the sun heats us." "When the sun heats us." "My mother wanted me to be a housewife." "So she taught me to sew, embroider, knit." "So, I know nothing, but a little bit of everything." "I always say mother educated me well, but made a mistake because I´ve never been a housewife." "I´ve always been a worker." "And I don´t regret it because I love it." "I´ll take the sewing machine to my hometown when I go." "I´ve even got an anecdote with the repairman." "Once he came to the bar to see what was wrong with it." "I said: "It´s off-balance. " He said: "Is it the motor?" "."" "I said: "No, I checked it. "" "He said: "How do you know?"" "I said: "I used to make the motors. "" ""You made them?" I said yes." ""Where´d you work?" I said: " At Numax. "" "And in front of everyone he said:" ""You took advantage of Suarez´s 10 million?" I said yes, but no one knew absolutely anything." "Since he worked with the machines and bought motors, he knew the Numax story." "Hello!" "Hello!" "I need a few tools to take with me the car." "Hello!" "What´s up?" "Hi." "How´s it going?" "Hi." "Hi." "I´ve taken some tools I need for the car." "Okay." "I´m going to Cáceres, Badajoz," "Córdoba and Seville." "Where will I change cars?" "In Cáceres." "Okay." "I´ll go through Madrid and pick it up in Cáceres." "Good morning." "I´ll tell you something that´s worth mentioning, not because it turned out okay but so people can realise how things were at that time." "It´s about the Numax trials." "Once everything was ready and the trial underway, company witnesses appeared and, without wanting to, testify in our favour, which helped us, but wasn´t enough cause the trial was political and not labour-oriented" "and against 2 specific people instead of the 1 3 of us fired who raised the fuss." "And that´s how it went." "What became evident was our intention to struggle for certain interests and try to obtain them." "After, everyone does as they please." "But all that was bogus because the trial was very clear-cut but, in the end, nothing." "An image is worth more than a thousand words." "I was born in a small town in León, Villaquilambre." "I love my town, I love my people." "The idea is to go back to my town and people." "I´m very happy in Catalonia." "To me it´s been like a university." "I used to work the fields with my parents." "Then I come here, get work, and when I start to earn money" "I started to buy things." "I´ll never forget." "The first thing I bought was a handbag I liked a lot." "When I started to earn money and was independent," "I felt a freedom I never had." "I didn´t know how to handle money..." "Good morning." "Good morning." "Around 8, when you´re with your theory, I take them to mine." "And besides, both those kids want to be weIders." "I focus more on them." "And since the other 3 will be in construction as well," "I teach them welding and construction work at the end, mixing both areas." "I left Numax in 7 9." "I came to Andalusia in ´90." "I was in the Provincial Committee of the Workers´ Commissions 8 years." "Meanwhile I was offered to become a candidate for the Left Wing Party." "I´ve been in City Hall as a Councillor for 8 years." "And these last elections I decided not to be a candidate." "Though I´ve always been a communist," "I have anarchist tendencies in the sense that I don´t believe in the Establishment understood as formal issues." "I believe politics are something else, and society should change." "In these 8 years as Councillor, you reach a point where you see the truth from the outside." "You lose contact with the daily problems." "Institutional debates have nothing to do with them." "And I wanted to be simply Pedro once again." "Numax taught me what it was like to leave" "a small town with no knowledge whatsoever, to learn what the struggle was all about, the meaning of dictatorship and democracy." "Numax gave me that." "I didn´t know." "With democracy I have a feeling that the only change is that I couldn´t speak out before and now I can, but no one listens." "But I have a right to be angry." "I´ve never voted the right wing, nor will I ever." "But I felt very disappointed with the socialists." "They sold us out." "We made things easy for them, and still do, and they still don´t know what to do with what we give them." "And that drives me mad!" "To give them our vote without their know what to do annoys me!" "Lorena." "Yes?" "Did you know that in my previous job I did a film?" "No, you never said anything, not even at home." "Now you know." "My parents said nothing." "They don´t know either." "It was my secret." "Why a secret?" "It was when I came to barcelona and worked in a factory with a Iot of activity." "We were rowdy." "They would fire us just like that, and then rehire us." "But why?" "Because it was the period of the Transition and there was tremendous activity." "Then they fired us and we went on strike." "The owners left and we stayed behind, alone." "alone?" "alone, we ran the company." "But it didn´t work out too well." "although I agree seIf-management is viable, the problem is what is behind that self-management." "I wasn´t even 18." "I became 18 in the company." "And in ´7 6 we workers took it over." "They wanted to fire people, so we took the company over." "It was a nice experience and helped me to Iearn professionally, as well as what solidarity is all about, and to struggle together for an objective." "I was born in Zamora but went to Salamanca at age 1." "My father was from there." "I went to a school run by nuns and life in Salamanca was like that but, at 14 I knew" "I had to get out of there." "At 17 I organised a trip." "We went to Mallorca." "I knew a girl working there." "But, to me, that is where I wanted to stay." "When I first saw Barcelona," "I really liked it." "I don´t know." "I felt like relieved, like free, a tremendous feeling that is still in my mind." "Waking up and seeing" "I wasn´t at home, but somewhere else." "At Numax I found the shoe that fit me." "From the first day." "I had never seen a mass meeting, so when I started to work at the factory a week later Puig Antich was executed." "They yard was full of leaves, and a mass meeting." "I was there." "I was inquisitive cause I knew nothing." "That was like a school." "Mr. Lamas walked down the stairs and, being pissed off, we hit him." "We knocked his glasses off and then beat him a bit." "Then he went back upstairs and we all went to the police station to have Pedro set free." "What else can I tell you?" "I met Roque in ´76." "Yes, in January or February." "In February, in Vitoria, there were those Vitoria killings, also due to a strike." "The intention was for" "Roque, Jose and Tupa to go, so I decided to go with them and met Roque on the way to Vitoria and we saw people who were hiding out in houses, in jail, mothers." "We made many contacts." "They had died a month before, so imagine the situation." "And that´s where I met him." "Juani, are those all the frames you´ve done?" "Since your fall, you´re not producing enough." "That´s not enough?" "No, I do more." "You sound like a Numax boss." "Don´t say that to me." "It´s a joke, but..." "Finish and let´s have breakfast." "Look at what a lettuce and what an egg I picked!" "For our breakfast." "Okay, we´ll make breakfast." "Okay." "I hope you´ll do it first." "Look at my girl, she´s cool." "When I took the bar over" "I paid out some money, and had the feeling that" "I had bought a lifelong job after so many ups and downs." "But now, after 16 years, City Hall says it has expropriated the bar, it´s expropriated my apartment, and now I´m like I was 26 years ago." "Now I start to pay for an apartment and find a job." "My life has been a continuous struggle but now I don´t feel like struggling, I feel like relaxing." "But they don´t let me." "You´ll do something though." "Of course, but what?" "At my age you can´t do too many things." "I can´t find a job so easily." "But, we´ll see." "Continue unemployed and study what I started this year." "And then find a job." "Blanca." "I haven´t heard from you in a long time, although I did know" "that after the accident you were all right." "What am I going to do?" "I´m not sure yet but I hope to find something to live on." "Jesters!" "Come on!" "Miki!" "Where´s Miki, Miki the jester?" "Out of the circle, Jose." "Out of the circle." "Out of the circle." "Now!" "Let´s see." "Let´s see, Reme." "Jose, how many kids are in the circle?" "Let´s see." "Let´s see." "If you don´t listen, you do it wrong." "Conchita, Reme, two children in each circle." "Me!" "Two." "I´m going to Seville cause I´m Andalusian, and take advantage to study Teaching." "What I got out of this experience is that I don´t want to be exploited like that again." "I want a job I like and enjoy, but I´d have to go hungry to be exploited again." "What colour is that?" "Blue." "How do you write number 2?" "With paint." "No, on paper." "We make a circle, down, and...?" "And the little tail!" "This is much more difficult." "How many?" "Three." "Be very careful." "Like this." "Be careful, 3 are a lot." "Don´t fall." "No, no." "You have to get out of the circle." "Everyone out of the circle." "Now!" "Three!" "No, no, no." "What have we here?" "Eugenia, who else?" "Okay, everyone?" "What colour is number 3?" "Yellow!" "What colour, Reme?" ""Ellow."" ""Yellow!"" "A little curve, okay?" "And now we´ll learn, pay attention, a new number." "How old are you?" "This many." "How old is Manuel?" "One." "Let´s count." "Two." "Come on, everybody." "One, two, three and four." "Let´s see, Joselete." "One, two, three." "Joselete." "What?" "And four!" "Blanca, a phone call." "For me?" "Okay, I´ll erase this." "I have a phone call." "Who´s calling?" "I have to go." "What?" "Who´s calling you?" "I´ll be right back." "Conchita, wait a moment." "Who´s calling?" "You called me?" "You have a call." "Blanca?" "Does Eulogio ring a bell?" "Eulogio." "Eulogio?" "Yes." "Eulogio what else?" "Eulogio Roca." "No?" "Remember me from Numax?" "From Numax!" "Hey, kid, where are you?" "Getting to Córdoba." "I´d like to see you, even if just to say hello." "You´re in Córdoba?" "At a gas station on the way in." "It has to be today because I´m working and I´ll probably have to go back tomorrow." "I left home at 17 and worked in various companies." "I was in the 6th grade." "Between 5th and 6th I started to work to see what it was about." "I was involved in politics." "I was a militant in Santa Coloma, in neighbourhood underground committees." "due to the labour movement, we had to work in factories and be with the working class on all levels." "It´s changed a Iot." "The neighbourhood isn´t the same." "It´s enormous now." "It sure has changed." "From here I see it very high." "It had a terraced roof." "Remember we shot the film there?" "It was a whole adventure." "A whole adventure for a Iong time." "If you think about what we went through, it was intense." "Even if it was only a year." "Night and day, thinking the same." "But it was okay." "It helped me a Iot, a great change in my life." "Rehire the people fired!" "Rehire the people fired!" "Rehire the people fired!" "It helped me to know what I´m doing in life because you start working, and that´s it." "You should at least know why and with who you work, and why they make you work." "Why they exploit you so much." "Numax gave me guidelines." "It was a process both on a labour as well as personal level." "I was internally moved on a political level also." "It, like, changed my life." "At Numax we worked 24 hours a day." "Some of us even lived together, always on the same basis." "24 hours a day." "At the end it was more like exhaustion." "We had to stop because it was like an illness." "How´s Bibis?" "Is Bibis sleepy?" "We believed there was a life without any exploitation." "I believed in the revolution, in living differently." "I believed and, at times, I think I still do." "But I couldn´t do that again, like when I was 20 years old." "Come on, Joselete." "In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost." "Amen." "José." "Hello, Jesus, You are my friend." "You love me a lot, and I love You too." "You will always be with me." "You are always here in my heart." "Friends like You and I, what happiness!" "Friends forever, real friends." "Your hands open." "In the name of the Father, the Son and the holy Ghost." "Amen." "Come on." "Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name," "Thy kingdom come..." "See you tomorrow." "Bye." "This is impossible!" "Impossible!" "My God, I wouldn´t have recognised you!" "Do you now?" "Now, yes!" "It´s been so long." "Now, yes." "You´re much older, and handsome." "Sure, it´s been 25 years." "You didn´t recognise me." "Now I do." "Hello." "My, God, Magda!" "How are you?" "And you?" "Down here." "My God, Mari!" "How are you?" "Remembering old times?" "This has changed." "It sure has." "You´re so tanned." "I go to the beach." "Where are you going?" "To show Mari where I work." "Are you on duty?" "Yes, and I can take you there." "Okay." "I´ll show you my little house." "Okay." "Well, what a nice car." "It´s big." "Mari, we´re successful." "So I see!" "You´re so tanned." "It´s been so long..." "The taxi was smaller." "And so was he." "What about you two?" "I´ve got plenty to tell." "A lot of activity." "Tell me, Mari!" "I´ve worked in different places." "Sometimes insured, others not." "But I´ve moved around a lot cause I get tired of places." "Since Numax, I can´t stand anyone." "Mari, we´re free spirits." "You can say that again." "I get tired because of the situation, not because I want to." "I don´t really care." "Work is work, but to work badly, I go somewhere else." "Hello." "The entire environment has changed because seeing the present shipyard struggle in Seville, fighting the police, I remember the old times." "So, what have we gained?" "Now everything is remote." "Before, many more people were involved." "Now everyone defends their own interests." "It´s not done in common." "Everyone believes that, alone, they´ll achieve more." "In my opinion, there was a much greater awareness than what we´ve got now." "You´re right, Mari." "There´s a lot of ´individualization´." "Everyone goes for their own interests and "if I make it, I´m sorry for the others" but, that´s it." "How much is this?" "This?" "176,80." "The 80 cents." "176." "Yes, thank you." "I had come from a sort of life like very repressed for political reasons because it was tough before Franco´s death." "Then I felt I wanted to open up to life, and that opening means accepting sexual aspects, emotional aspects, having no regret when thinking things." "And that was it." "I became more... compliant in the ways of life." "I got a divorce, but remarried." "Many years later." "How long have we been together?" "15 years." "15 years?" "With a lifelong friend." "I ended up with someone I knew all my life." "I´ve been separated 6 years." "Life is too long." "You can´t be married to the same guy." "You´ve got to change." "It´s very long." "At 40 you think you´ve got a whole life ahead of you." "You get tired of lobster every day and want some lentils." "If it goes well, fine, but I can´t take it." "I haven´t looked for many obligations, so I don´t take much crap." "You´re right." "I don´t have expensive whims nor children." "I settle for very little, and a good quality of Iife." "What´s he work as?" "He..." "Now he has a print shop." "He had it before, but now has 3 partners." "They´re standardizing and argue over that a bit." "If we get the okay, Iet me know." "What´s up?" "Hi." "I´ve got this diptych he hehe h ee eee e" "Bye." "See you later." "See you later, Mari." "Bye." "Who are you living with?" "Me?" "With my mother." "And not that much, I´m always moving around." "I sleep there a few days, and at Ieast keep her company." "Any girlfriends?" "girlfriend?" "What for?" "No?" "No." "Pick ups?" "Sure, but not that many." "A man alone, now, fantastic!" "I get by, more or less." "13 years is a Iot." "Married?" "Yes." "It´s okay." "You held out a Iong time." "I couId have held out longer, but that´s life." "That´s it." "Yes, it is." "No more fights, everything is in order and everyone´s happy." "Antonio, do you copy?" "Yes, I copy." "I have no info on the demonstration." "Where will it start?" "In the Zona Franca." "We´ll be there with the cars." "We´ll assemble there and a manifest will be given." "What did you do after Numax?" "After Numax I worked at a grocery store my parents had." "Then I ran out of my unemployment pay and started to work at a dairy factory." "First at Rania, and they went under." "The milk company." "You didn´t say anything?" "No." "But everything went wrong." "You´re jinxed." "We´ve got enough with this." "But you´re okay." "Yes, happy, at Ieast." "I don´t know for how long." "I could get tired, but, for the moment," "I´m happy, and so is my boss." "Maybe you could have been more active than now." "The situation was..." "Everyone was jointly active." "People are more neglectful now." "They ignore everything." "Oh, the tablecloth!" "It´s over there, with the napkins." "Here?" "Yes, there." "Heavens!" "What about the accident?" "hello." "Hi." "I´ve watered the plants." "See what I´ve got here?" "What is it?" "Look." "Memories of when I worked at Numax, the row we had." "We had to run the factory and all." "See this clipping?" "At a demonstration." "I think that´s me." "I think so." "I wasn´t involved in politics," "I was an ideologist." "But, at that time," "I was struggling for labour, and nothing else, because" "I never mentioned the Church." "I wondered what I was doing there but, there I was." "I don´t know whether people knew I was a believer." "I´m not sure." "You were a good person." "That´s true." "Do you remember Rafa?" "More or less, I have an idea." "But it´s been so long." "How did it go for Rafa?" "Rafa died six, seven years ago." "Was he ill?" "He had a terrible death." "Remember he presumed to be an artist?" "well, he was an artist." "He took pictures." "well, he died and..." "Where´s the sugar?" "Wait." "I got separated just before the closing." "Numax and my marriage ended together." "But he was a dear, charming person" "who never hurt anyone besides himself." "But I couldn´t take it any longer." "I´d say:" ""This is like a band where my instrument is never heard."" "until I got separated, but with affection." "We were always good friends." "At the end, he didn´t want to see me, and I didn´t try when he was ill." "But I always, always remember him." "Whenever I see something or go out, I say:" ""What he missed is a shame."" "He was dear, but I couldn´t take it." "We were young." "I don´t know whether I was right for him." "He wasn´t for me." "He was like an abandoned child." "You blamed yourself." "Sure, I saw he was like an abandoned child who didn´t know what to do." "But I wasn´t his mother." "You can be the mother of a child with a logical age, but not of a 30-year old." "So you were keeping Paco in the background." "No, not in the background." "I´d never imagine that." "Paco was my dearest friend." "And one day I saw him." "He always said he liked me, but we were only friends." "And then I saw him." "And 16 years up to now." "And it turned out very well." "Go for the second one, Roca." "After the first experience, make the most of it." "Sure, like Numax." "That was something else, and you learned." "You may make other mistakes, but not the same ones." "You try not to." "I try not to." "Shit, it´s cold!" "That bastard, my boss, sends me to La Pobla to repair a motor, hell!" "And the train is behind schedule." "Fuck!" "When Numax was over" "I´m on vacation, in a sort of wild personal stage." "I have money, I´m on unemployment," "I don´t study, I just live life a bit." "And also live this political transition period in a specific way, and get to know the feminist world." "Juan was... he was a person..." "when I met him..." "Pepi, what are you doing here?" "Waiting for you." "What´ve you been up to?" "Sit down." "This weighs like hell." "Are you here for work?" "What are you doing here?" "Travelling." "What about you?" "Working." "How nice." "I work..." "I´m going to see Fernanda." "What Fernanda?" "Remember Fernanda, she worked with us?" "She had a baby." "If you saw her picture you´d remember." "She lived in Mataró?" "Yes." "Yes, I remember." "I´m going to see her." "Come along." "Now?" "I can´t." "Come on." "I wish, but I can´t." "What is she up to?" "Fernanda." "Well, Fernanda." "You know that after Numax we all went to live in the mountains." "Fernanda, me and others from Santa Coloma." "Juan." "Juan wanted that the most." "We lived up there and then came to live in town, until I went to Barcelona." "I went through things that don´t matter now." "But I had to go back to Barcelona, and Juan´s illness complicated things." "He died of the liver or kidneys?" "Kidneys." "Kidneys." "Right, now I remember." "That´s another long story." "That´s irrelevant." "I´ll tell you someday, but not now." "And it was all very nice." "The Seat workers also struggled and came to help us." "They´d say: "Today for you, tomorrow for us."" "It is open." "Let´s see." "What kept us together was the will to demand that capitalism shouldn´t take advantage of the workers." "We had our rights as well." "Don´t make me remember those things." "I must find a job because I´m 50 years old, but don´t want to think about that for now." "Our experience at Numax was very good, struggling for 2 years against the capitalists" "and, look, I´m still smiling." "Those were nice times." "I think, in that period, we had more freedom, not officially," "but freedom." "And took it personally." "We´d set up a demonstration for just about anything." "It was the Transition, no one knew what would happen." "People felt like changing." "Change, improve things, but they didn´t as much as we wanted." "I myself felt rather betrayed on many levels." "Like, many things changed in my life, but I changed them in vain." "I think the great majority of people with hopes, in that period, felt the same way." "I remember, after Numax," "I belonged to the resident´s association, the libertarian athenaeum, ecology groups and all that." "And, little by little, you realise what you´re doing." "Everything is like integrated and you don´t count anymore." "And, little by little, you lose, burn yourself out." "They burn you out, or you just get away from it all." "So you give up." "You´re no longer in resident´s association or groups?" "No, now I´m very disappointed with all this." "Now, well, I got married," "I live with my wife." "A "houseman"." "Yes, a "houseman" too." "I cook dinner, I´m the man of the household." "That´s very good." "You are, Lord, the guiding light of my heart." "You are my strength." "With You, Lord, I find my wellbeing." "You fill me with joy." "To begin with, I ask:" "What does culture mean to you?" "This culture doesn´t mean having gone to the university or knowing many things." "There is another general culture that you learn in life." "For example, the life I led at the bank was culture to me." "My work as a social worker was culture to me." "[ Skipped item nr. 695 ]" "[ Skipped item nr. 696 ] didn´t let me reach people and wanted to go back to my roots," "going as a witness of faith to a factory." "I worked in different jobs." "And in this factory," "Numax, where we workers had to take the management over because they wanted to close it, like now in many places." "I think Numax changed us all, our concept of life." "To me it was a breaking point, because it was a political period." "Wanting to change the world, thinking you can." "Then you realise..." "I mean, both things came together." "We must close Numax because we don´t know where we´re going, we can´t construct a little socialist country here, a little socialist company with 80 people" "because no one is prepared and external conditions don´t allow it." "They won´t let us, nor do conditions allow it." "In that Transition there were many companies with problems." "They were undercapitalized or being closed, I think, and we workers struggled for our jobs." "But, officially, there was no row." "Everything was fine." "We had to respect those famous Moncloa Pacts, and afterwards everyone was on their own, like now." "We should learn something every day." "Distinguish what is right and should be done, and what is wrong and shouldn´t be done." "This is very important because we hear a lot of things over TV and radio." "Therefore, we have to know how to choose what is right and wrong, what is important to us and what is nonsense and not worth while." "With a flame of hope burning there is still a path to be levelled, and we will walk firmly." "To take joy to the hearts of all our brothers." "No one can take this joy from us." "That´s it." "Do you smoke?" "No, but someone must be smoking out there." "I can smell it." "Next month we´ll celebrate Saint Joseph saint´s day." "We´ll call each other." "Yes, I´ll see you." "Give me a hug." "What was I going to say...?" "Bye, and good luck." "You too." "Juan was a person who was a part of my life in a rather" "intense way." "We lived our lives in depth and to the limit the first years." "In our relationship there was no time for boredom." "He had a strong character and, at times, we didn´t get on well." "We argued a lot, but we also loved each other a lot." "We had the two extremes." "Good morning." "A ticket to Pont de Suert, please." "Okay." "At times you´d tell people Juan had depressions but people couldn´t believe that." "It seemed impossible for a person like him to..." "But he did have them." "They were heavy, and he had his doubts." "Juan was very human, but at times didn´t seem so." "Extremely human and sensitive." "With a great capacity to love and be loved." "He´d say: " At times I love you like you were my mother. "" "And I´d say: "Shit, no one ever told me that. "" "There you could see his need to be loved." "We were in various places in Santa Coloma, with others." "We set up a Popular Athenaeum and a radio station there." "And all that got some people together that were from different political parties." "A bit libertarian, but there was a certain disappointment because you had struggled, risked a lot, left things behind but then, what you struggled for seems to work." "You feel sold out." "I felt sold out." "And that was bound to our recent love." "I think our love story was very profound, very strong and" "very tough, very tough." "And when Juan got ill, we went to pieces." "When we came from Pont de Suert," "I had been arrested before." "I get out on parole from a holdup we did." "I was arrested and he was on the run." "That wasn´t for long because we got caught right away." "Shortly after that he gets ill and we´re caught again." "How long?" "Hello there." "Were you waiting for me?" "Since 6:30, when you left." "Hello, Pepona!" "It´s cold!" "It´s been a long time. 2 years." "Two?" "Yes, two years." "I had no vacation last year." "That year doesn´t count." "No vacation." "You had that much work?" "I´ll tell you all about it." "Me too." "I´ve changed places and all that." "What will you do once Numax closes?" "Not go to any factory!" "I´ll find a way to live in the country, if possible." "Change my lifestyle, cause the factory represses you." "I don´t want my children to be exploited like I have been." "I want them to grow freely." "To live in the city is a drag." "How nice." "How pretty." "Remember Juan?" "The first year we got here, he broke a leg." "A leg or an arm?" "I don´t know, but" "I remember he was injured." "He was downstairs on a sort of couch we put there." "Paqui and I fixing the roof and him, bossing us from below." ""Do this, do that!" And I was pissed off." ""Shut up, you´re not doing this!" -"That´s not the way to do it!"" "Remember?" "Well, so do I. And there was a lot of snow." "I was in Barcelona." "Now it doesn´t snow much." "This winter is nice." "It started to snow today?" "Yes, today." "It´ll be holy hell!" "We´re in luck!" "We don´t need the snow." "My God!" "You live well here." "We´re a whole group of women." "We´re getting together." "For the moment we´re 3." "One Tuesday one goes to one house, the others, the other days." "What do you talk about?" "For the moment, about ourselves." "How it´s going, our relationship, there´s a Hare "Krishma" girl." "She believes, and we respect her." ""But you don´t believe"." "I don´t, what can I say?" "At this age...!" "Even for me." "As a child, I believed, I was very religious, but at 18 I changed, and that´s it." "She says she needs that to live, something more." "So we talk about how we handle the loneliness up here." "That´s nice." "For 3 weeks now." "Tomorrow she´d go down by train and turn the heating on." "Sure, because..." "Sunday she´d be warm." "What are you doing now?" "Construction work." "On your own?" "Well, almost." "I´m in a company, but I run it." "Great." "You construct around here?" "We´re remodelling the Boí church." "How cool." "We´re constructing some water drains out back." "The Romanesque church?" "Yes." "I´m surrounded by archaeologists and stuff." "Fine." "We´ll do something for History." "For posterity." "Our grandchildren will say:" ""Bernardo did this."" "If the church collapses, you know who to blame." "Who they have to kill." "There´s the little boss." "Yes, but he had to struggle a lot." "But you´re okay?" "Yes." "I know you´d rather be here all day long." "Of course." "But..." "7 of 8-hours work is too much." "Exactly." "On a trip he told me he wanted to earn his living like that." "That he would, and that I could join him or stay out." "The idea attracted me." "And I took part." "And once you do, you get into the whole story." "Then you start to secrete adrenalin." "At the beginning I thought it was a new adventure." "A way of living life." "Maybe it was the adrenalin but" "I liked it, until I got scared." "I start a personal decadence, saying "I want out", and so on, and then Juan gets ill." "Shortly after I was arrested he begins with a chronic kidney failure." "Juan Manzanares´ defence attorney" "I met Manzanares as you say." "He was very interested in the social, political and cultural changeover of the country." "I think he belonged to the Communist Action Party, but" "I don´t remember, it slips my mind." "He was a communist, had trouble with the National and Public Courts, a member of the political ex-prisoners´ association," "and had changed due to his life´s story." "He had become a transgressor of reality," "of reality and legality, both at the same time." "In the group we were in we had people who liked this sort of activities." "People who had learned their lesson from that political period." "It wasn´t only money, there was a motivation of rage because we all needed to be illegal." "You needed to be a bit above the law." "And attack capitalism, but in a way that´s a bit..." "It´s very easy, you can´t learn this in any school." "You use logic when entering a place, how you´ll scare people." "This is a holdup." "Like in films: "This is a holdup!"" ""This is a holdup!" "Give me the money!"" "Barcelona was very active regarding holdups." "Bank branches." "We´d go out, have a cup of coffee." "Mine black, Juan´s with milk." "We´d go to the bank he´d cased." "You go in and say: "This is a holdup!" "Don´t look at me!" "Give me the money you´ve got!"" "At times it was a lot, others not so much." "It was basic to be very fast." "If anyone had called, you get out in seconds." "That´s it." "I always saw the same reactions." "People go through hell." "It´s scary, cause you´re aiming at them." "I´d have been scared if someone was aiming a gun at me." "But that can never, ever become a routine." "It´s too heavy to become a routine." "It implies real danger for you life." "Then you´re scared too." "That was quite a few years." "We lived off that for quite a few years." "Juan is already ill." "He is ill." "We try to pull of a holdup and get caught." "I don´t go into that bank." "It was Juan and someone else." "Here we are, in front of the Bank of Sabadell." "You can see the spectators and the Civil Guard who have blocked all accesses, entrances and exits, th hostages" "Along with other people, he tried to rob a bank in Valls and when they get inside the bank there is a certain activity of handguns in front of employees." "That´s when Manzanares," "Juan or Joan, depending, demands the presence of the Minister of Interior," "Barrionuevo." "This bank robbery has failed for certain circumstances but, based on my own experience," "I will give myself up exclusively to the Minister of Interior, and this is not a whim..." "This story is so simple that Barrionuevo doesn´t go, and then Manzanares gets off his high horses and demands a representative." "Ex-Civil Governor of Tarragona" "I was in Tarragona, celebrating Armed Forces Day, and was notified there had been a bank robbery in Valls and that the mayor wanted me there." "I consulted with the Minister of the Interior, then José Barrionuevo." "He told me to evaluate and consider the situation well, as well as the risks." "Once I was in Valls, that seemed like a Greek theatre performance because the whole town was on the street." "Now you can see the police force." "A lieutenant colonel, I think, as well as the maximum authorities of our city." "Here you can see another angle of the bank as well as the calm and peacefulness there is on the street where we can see how the police force is waiting to see what will happen." "The media is also here:" "Radio Capital de l´ Alt Camp, who are paying close attention, continuously connecting with their station." "The Civil Guard entering the building next to the bank, some with bullet-proof vests and the lieutenant colonel who is looking precisely towards us." "Now we see someone in plain-clothes entering." "A secret agent who gave the uniformed policeman a rifle" "with a telescopic sight." "You can see he is at ease, but ready." "Once there, we evaluated the situation but the mayor insisted that the best way to free those people in Valls" "we were pressed by family, friends and the townspeople- was to go in and negotiate with the robber." "It seems we´re wrong." "It´s not one, but two people." "The information we have is a bit obscure." "Don´t touch me." "Watch it." "Come on, let´s go." "Maria." "Maria!" "Maria!" "We see once again the members of the Civil Guard who, for the moment, do not seem" "to be getting ready to intervene." "They´re in a relaxed posture awaiting orders or for something to happen, we presume." "The officer is looking towards our cameras." "The civil governor and the Mayor Pau Nuet, are in front of the bank" "and prepared." "We believe they´re going in." "The mayor and I went in and, inside, the robber was sheltered inside the bank vault" "and, it´s not that I was surprised," "I was astonished to see that the bank robber paid no attention to the mayor and addressed only me." "Once inside," "he made me remove my jacket, in case I was armed, and my pants as well." "Then, for about an hour," "I can´t remember well because you lose track of time, he started to give a sort of public speech" "of, I´d say, a supposedly ideological, political content to justify his act." "They´re talking." "They´ve removed their jackets." "The mayor has removed it." "We presume he ordered him to." "I tried to convince him he was mistaken, that I was a socialist governor with no ties to capitalism, that we were beginning that wonderful adventure of" "consolidating a state of wellbeing in Spain, modernizing structures and checking the accounting books so people could live better, but he paid no attention to that" "exchange of reasoning we were having." "It was a radical confrontation." ""Who are you?" "I want the Minister of the Interior here." "You´re taking his place." "You´re nobody!"" "Before going in he was with the police chief of Tarragona, who said: "Sir, don´t go in." "Let´s wait here."" ""Like hell, I´m going in!"" "But the police chief stayed outside." "It was like:" ""I´ll take care of this." "No bank robber asks me for Barrionuevo to come." "He´ll pay it dearly."" "He goes inside in a cocky way and finds two "bosses"." "Juan Manzanares, the "boss" of the bank robbery and a subordinate employee, who I hope will forgive me..." "From here we can see" "the governor raising his hand." "His left hand." "We presume they are talking." "Well, then he came out of that bank vault, came towards me, and at 2 metres from me" "he aimed a 9 mm. pistol at me, but luckily it jammed." "He said he was going to kill me." "Then I realised he was serious, that it was no farce, no game." "That he was capable of killing me." "Now, from here, we can see that they´re standing and some bank employees have arrived." "We can see one, just above the letter "O", an employee wearing a white shirt and another with a blue one just above the letter "C"." "We can´t see him well." "The windows are reflecting." "Then he fired." "And all my muscles were tense." "I jumped and protected myself from that first shot." "The bullet entered my shoulder and went on to my back and behind my spinal cord, without touching it, fortunately." "Then I ran out here." "I went to a window here, to ask for help, although the glass was armoured, I called for attention, and he shot at me, so I took shelter under the counter and he shot me again," "but at a distance of about a metre." "Imagine my position." "The descending bullet hit me upwards, it entered through my armpit, travelled all this way and reached my oesophagus," "shattered my vocal cords and I started to vomit blood." "And he said:" ""I´ve killed the governor."" "To us it seems as if everything is relaxed and calm inside." "Watch it!" "There´s movement!" "A shot!" "No, everything´s all right." "No, everything is all right." "Everything is all right." "Everything is all right." "Look, they´ve got him." "There´s movement in the office." "Movement in the office!" "The mayor is yelling:" ""Get in here!"" "That´s it, we see the police going in." "They´re in and they´ve got him." "Then he threw his gun down, raised his hands and said:" ""I´ve killed the governor."" "Those were his words." "Relax." "They´ve got him." "We believe the governor has been shot." "Let´s see how he is." "His arm." "His arm is bleeding, as you can see." "The armed forces are going in." "We think it´s all over." "We believe nothing else has happened." "We believe nothing else has happened." "We hope that is the end of it." "There he is, we can see him!" "We can see him clearly, his face." "Kill him!" "Kill him!" "Get back, let´s go!" "Son of a bitch!" "We who live off speech know how to justify things, but the radical transgressors don´t consider so many things." ""I´m doing this cause I want to see the minister of the interior and rob those banks that charge a 30% profit."" "Vicente Valero, who is recovering favourably, had a long conversation with the minister, who finds him cheerful." "One of the main reasons that motivated him to act the way he did was precisely thinking that the appearance of the minister in person could have motivated him in addition to the dramatic event in itself." "He disliked him a lot." "It meant that if you were against Franco´s repression, that dictatorial repression," "you try to change things, but nothing, and then someone who you´ve struggled with, a mate gets in there and becomes a repressor himself." "A representation of everything you were struggling for." "I think it was." "The minister of the interior, in this case, that born loser who was a real bastard, but, anyway..." "Why´d he demand that?" "Cause he couldn´t go anywhere," "I guess." "How do I know?" "I asked him too, and I think he didn´t know." "He wanted a plane, 2 billion and Barrionuevo." ""What would you have done?" "Piss away the 2 billion with you."" "I said: "Oh, come on!"" ""Why did you drop your gun after you fired?"" "" An instinct for survival, they´d have shot me to pieces. "" ""If you didn´t care, you could have... "" "Anyway." "That was a survival instinct." "Like: "I want to live. "" "I don´t know." "Then, after about" "7, 8 or so years, he got himself out of the way." "That wasn´t his moment." "That wasn´t his moment." "Neus, I have a banquet and I need a shoulder of lamb." "About ten shoulders or so." "And then about 15 or 20 veal cutlets." "Cut up, or whole?" "The shoulders marked, and" "I´ll cut the cutlets myself." "Shit!" "It´s from Emilia." "From Emilia?" "Emilia was," "I mean is... since" "I came to live here I´ve had no news from her." "And she is tough, real tough." "What does she say?" ""Blanca, I´ve had no news from you in a long time, but I knew you´re all right after the accident." "Now we can meet again and recall our good times together." "I know you married again." Like saying:" "Again!" ""You keep on insisting." "Hope everything is well." "See you soon." "Love." "Emilia."" "I don´t know." "I fear the day we..." "...meet again?" "Yes, cause I´d like to, but..." "You´ll probably cry." "Of course, cause this is..." "That doesn´t look bad." "Look who´s coming!" "She looks so happy." "Sure, she knows them." "Where are you going?" "You´re gonna get dirty." "Hi." "Hi." "Hello!" "Alfonso, you´re going bald." "But you´re still handsome." "Hi, beautiful." "How are you?" "How are you?" "Just fine." "Well, let´s see." "The artichokes, peel the potatoes." "Prepare these ten dishes." "I´ll cut the "lacón"." "We´ve spoken about this many times." "Why?" "Why am I cooking now when I used to be a lawyer?" "Before being a lawyer I studied Economics." "I was from a well-off family from Bilbao," "with an uncle of mine who was one of Franco´s ministers, chairman of the Courts," "where I took my first steps working as an economist." "But I realised that I couldn´t apply my knowledge to the service of capitalist companies." "So I took a decision, which was to come to Catalonia, but not doing what I was doing there." "A very radical change." "I was living in the Satellite City, politically organised, and working in a factory." "I was just one more worker." "I never revealed what I had been doing." "We got involved and, later on, organised the company." "We caused a conflict for the company, and..." "Don´t look at me like that." "I´m looking at you." "I´m listening and looking at you." "I know I´m an employer now, but I´m working as well." "We caused a tremendous conflict for the company and, consequently, I was fired." "I had the chance..." "Let´s prepare the lamb." "I´m going on and on." "What happened when you went to Andalusia?" "Getting there was a joke." "Don´t you remember?" "Our first trip." "Tell the story, Alfonso, you remember." "I remember we travelled in a truck full of goats." "Full of goats." "The Civil Guard stopped us." "And a beehive!" "We put the furniture in the truck, then a canvas on top, and a lot of straw." "And the goats on top of the furniture." "And 4 people inside as well." "Then the Civil Guard stopped us." "I´m not surprised." "They said nothing." "When he showed them and said: "It´s just some junk." "We´re moving." They said:" ""Okay, let´s see your I.D."" "He takes it out, but it was a photocopy." "You couldn´t even see the picture." "He asks: "What´s this?" "It´s all I´ve got."" ""It´s all I´ve got." "Where are you going?"" ""To Almería." And that was just leaving Tarragona." "He said: "Go right ahead, if you can make it there."" "I took an important decision, and that was... well, I´m older but I´m going to study Law." "Why?" "Because, at that time, I thought it was the way to be at the service of the workers, my goal in life, what I thought I had to do." "I became a member of a group of" "Labour Party lawyers." "And I started to practise as a labour lawyer." "And, truthfully, I felt very good amongst the workers." "I have good memories of that stage." "Fantastic." "The companies I represented also included this one, which was an important conflict due to those times, and very aware workers." "Also because there were political organizations and militancy, radical people who were in positions that were really at the forefront of the labour movement." "Let´s get this shrimp, and the hake." "I think it´s clear to you, you know how you got here, and I believe you understand all this perfectly." "When I talk about Law, you well-know, Zara, the tremendous problems you had to be able to work here." "Right?" "Why?" "Because Law was not made by you workers, but by specific people" "at the service of the Establishment, capitalism and companies." "Here, we were a bit like the kids of hippies." "Everyone here was traditional, townspeople, and so on." "We´d go there and they´d see you with long hair, dressed like that." "Now that´s normal, but it wasn´t then." "And I felt a bit discriminated, mocked." "I don´t know." "The parents of some friends wouldn´t let them hang out with us." "They´d say: "My parent´s won´t let me."" "That´s tough!" "Yeah, for the kids." "Remember David who didn´t want us to go pick him up?" "Later on he told me he was ashamed of us." "He told me: "I don´t want Eugenia to come."" "Okay, one thing is being rejected by this town and another is, as kids, feeling ashamed of not being from here." "When David would see Eugenia with her head shaved, he´d say: "Don´t come pick me up." "I´ll go on my own."" "That´s normal cause you saw your parents weren´t like the others." "Or you felt ashamed of us." "No, it´s not that, but..." "I think children are cruel." "When my dad said he´d grow a pigtail, that´s normal today." "But then no father wore a pigtail." "And much less here!" "Remember when he said he wanted to wear an earring?" "I would have been great with an earring, but they didn´t let me." "You can wear it now." "But you must have gotten something good out of this." "Sure." "Ladies, have you got your glasses?" "How about a toast?" "Okay." "Here´s to your health!" "Here´s to everyone´s health!" "A toast to what?" "To having the Spaniards throw Aznar out." "That would be a lot to me." "Throw the guy out!" "And that ordinary people may recover their critical sense and rebel whenever necessary." "I agree with you." "[ Skipped item nr. 1309 ]" "There are no indefinite labour contracts, just junk contracts." "I let them catch me." "If not, why go back to the car, to places" "I didn´t want to be?" "Juan asked my why I didn´t leave." "But I couldn´t just leave." "If they didn´t come after me, I wouldn´t go to the police." "But I could be seen where they were looking." "I wouldn´t live without Juan, that was quite clear to me." "I didn´t want to be outside Juan´s wavelength." "It was clear to me that Juan and I were together in this, for better or for worse." "Yes, I had loads of money and could have done many things." "But I decide not to." "I asked Juan:" ""How´d they catch you?"" "And he said:" ""I prefer to be here. "" "But I remember I was aware of my saying "I don´t." "I don´t want... to fight all this again. "" "I was really tired deep down inside." "I was so exhausted internally that I wanted to be left alone." "To let me sleep." "I just wanted to sleep." "But everyone would be asking me things." "Everyone wanted to know." "They got me really down, I swear." "The police." "Everyone." "I was exhausted, and before that too." "Everything collapsed on me and I didn´t want to face that." "Face up to living somewhere else, without Juan, to have to stay on the run." "But knowing he was ill, not seeing him for years, but I could see him inside." "I´d see him sooner or later." "In all these things, in the background you have love stories, solidarity, lost love, lost solidarity." "The Transition is an interesting political history that´s exportable to other countries, but people who have directly lived social, cultural, economic problems, etc. with a political effect, lose all that a bit." "In Juan Manzanares´ story, from an ideological or idealistic point of view," "we are different." "He still has the political ideology he had, but active." "Active." "My political ideology is passive." "He is a character who puts his political idea into action." "Whether right or wrong, we shouldn´t criticise." "I have a political idea but don´t put in into practise at all." "Anything else?" "Thanks for your impartiality." "Not impartiality, reality." "I don´t intend to be impartial with you." "Ready for the verdict." "Clear the room!" "Thank you very much!" "I believe many of us locked ourselves up with him." "Neither us nor him decided." "We lived day by day." "Yes, 8 years of dialysis." "He was very tired." "Besides, he didn´t have..." "His life had no alternatives." "He had a failed transplant and he wouldn´t get another." "But it wasn´t the prison or that stuff that depressed and shattered him." "It was precisely his illness." "His illness overpowered him." "Neither the Establishment nor jail." "That´s tough!" "When he died, he was crying out to die." "And he died because he wanted to." "He wanted no more dialysis." "And that´s it, he departed." "I got out on November 3rd, 1 992, and he died on November 25th." "He had told me." "These were his exact words:" ""Don´t get used to me." "Let´s not get used to being together again because it would be harder on me and tougher for you. "" "I replied: "Juan, I promise to be with you always." "I´ll take care of you, if necessary." "You won´t have to worry about anything, we´ll be together." "You live as long as you want. "" "Then he said:" ""Never let a hospital make me live longer than usual, without my deciding. " And added:" ""Do you want me to die at home or away?" He had sort of programmed it all." "And, yes, he died at home, with me." "I was holding his hand." "I had gotten home from work and saw that he was bloated." "I said: "Juan, today you start to look very bad. "" "He replied: "Yes, and I´m even a bit dizzy today." "Don´t set your alarm clock to go to work tomorrow. "" "And he went and departed." "Antonio!" "Well I´ll be damned!" "It´s been a long time." "Hello." "My God!" "I´m the cook." "I´ll be damned!" "I bet you couldn´t even imagine." "But I had to restrain myself a lot." "While you could see each other, I was behind a crack and couldn´t see anything until now." "...in the general meeting, like in so many occasions, we discussed different alternatives." "Just remember when we discussed the possibility of privatising and, in different occasions, we analysed, in depth, another possibility, self-management." "Either as a cooperative or as a social..." "It got to a point in which the workers had to take charge of all work that involved the start-up of the factory that hindered certain factory processes." "The problem of getting decent payment terms from..." "I was a layer and an economist because I lived it politically." "But when I realised that wasn´t so... that it was a way to make a living, it made no sense to me." "Some were lawyers because they went to the university, as a routine." "I studied Law in accordance with a specific moment." "They said to me: "You´ll be at the service of the workers." "Become a lawyer or you won´t get into the group."" "I studied and became a lawyer in 2 years, and started to work." "For 20 years now I´ve been combining restaurant work with my profession, and gave up the cloth 6 years ago." "Very few people were prepared, or knew exactly what we were going through there." "All we knew was that we were running a company belonging to someone who wouldn´t pay and wanted to exploit us." "But we didn´t have a real, tangible idea of what was going on there." "I had a rough time." "For 6 or 7 years, at first I was on unemployment pay, and then I was in bad shape, without knowing what to do." "That marked me, it marked me a lot." "But, you have to get ahead." "That´s life." "Even more of us got together, we were all together in a way that can´t be explained, not just like work companions." "That was something else." "Then all the movements." "We went to City Hall to see the mayor, and to the bishopric, to the civil government, to Madrid, Suarez, to demand money." "Use your fork." "If not, you´ll get dirty." "Have you eaten?" "Yeah?" "Tupa, come here a minute." "Tell Quico how his father left, and how Jose was when he left the company to take charge of the Party because there were more companies." "He left because..." "He left after, afterwards." "...he was going to work for the RCL Party." "Okay?" "And he said:" ""Since Pedro´s there, you know what to do." And he left." "Other companies were also struggling." "So then your father went to other companies." "And he talks at the end of this film." "Look at Jose!" "I believe that this process is the most conscious-minded within the struggle against the crisis." "Nowhere has there been such an aware participation of all workers, not only when affected by a problem here at the factory, but from before that." "Because here, almost 3 years ago, we started striking, even against repression like in the Garmendi, Otaegui incident, as I now recall," "while others stopped for 1 hour, we were on strike all day." "We´ve always been rather supporting." "So it´s not surprising that now, when the problem affects the people at Numax, they are responding with participation and determination with everyone at the mass meetings restraining." "Goodbye, my lifelong companions, my dear friends of those times." "Today it is my turn to start my retreat," "I must leave my dear group of friends." "Goodbye, I am leaving and resign myself..." "Arise ye workers from your slumbers." "Arise ye criminals of want for reason in revolt now thunders and at last ends the age of cant." "Now away with your superstitions." "Servile masses, arise, arise!" "We´ll change forthwith the old conditions and spurn the dust to win the p" "Then come, comrades, rally and the last fight let us face." "The Internationale unites the human race." "Now a Tango!" ""20 Years is Nothing"" "Subtitles:" "LASERFILM"