"BitsnBytes presents" "A documentary on the financial crisis" "World, European, Greek" "By Aris Chatzistefanou and Katerina Kitidi" "Scientific Research Leonidas Vatikiotis" "Music Yiannis Aggelakas, Ermis Georgiadis, Aris RSN" "Edit Aris Triantafyllou" "G. Papadopoulos" " Dictator:" " I shall reattempt a comparison with doctors." "We have a patient;" "we've placed him in a plaster cast." "D. Strauss-Kahn" " IMF Managing Director:" "As has been said before, history has this wicked habit... of repeating itself, "as farce"." "So, from a dictator/wannabe-doctor, we moved on to the MDs of the IMF." "An." "Papandreou" " Ex-PM:" " Everybody has to join in the struggle, fully aware that... either the nation will obliterate the debt, or the debt will obliterate the nation." "C. Mitsotakis" " Ex-PM:" " This year's incomes policy will be strict and austere." "No raises will be given whatsoever." "C. Simitis" " Ex-PM:" " There is no more room for benefits or tax cuts." "C. Karamanlis" " Ex-PM:" " We have to cut public spending, we have to tidy up our house." "And this cannot be achieved with your empty promises... of handing out money and privileges at a time of such crisis." "G. Papandreou" " PM:" " Unfortunately, our country is in the ICU." "The nation's fiscal deadlock... threatens our sovereignty for the first time since 1974." "In the last 40 years, two political parties, 3 families of politicians... along with certain businessmen, led the country to bankruptcy." "They declared suspension of payments to the people, in order to save their lenders." "The Czars of the economy, after decades of continuous austerity, advertised Greece as the local financial superpower." "Y. Papantoniou" " Ex Finance Minister:" " Our work is great." "We were the first to solve the economic problems." "N. Christodoulakis" " Ex Finance Minister:" " Once more, our economy will prove to be our strongest asset." "Y. Papantoniou" " Ex Finance Minister:" " The economy sprang forward and went from second to first league." "When their creation crumbled, those people said behind our back that, due to some genetic disorder, we were incapable of handling... our economy without foreign intervention." "Our government called us bums, and our lenders "PIIGS"... as was the case with all peripheral EU countries." "And our ministers tried to convince us that all of us had a part in this." "Br." "Lenihan" " Irish Ex Finance Minister:" "Th." "Pangalos" " Vice-president of the Greek government:" " The answer to the denouncement of the country's politicians that makes people ask us, "what did you do with the money?" is this:" "We made you civil servants!" "We all partied!" "So are we the prodigal children of a neat global economy and an all-successful Europe?" "Or has the system been ailing since its youth?" "Capitalist economy in the post-war period consists of two parts." "C. Lapavitsas" " Economics Professor:" " In the first 25 years of the so-called "golden era" after WWII, growth rates were high." "Real income rose, as did the consumption of goods." "Those were novel circumstances in the history of capitalism." "David Harvey" " Social scientist:" "This happy period ended in the mid-Seventies." "From then on, we entered a period of low growth, recurrent crises... suppressed, if any, rises in workers' income... and, usually, high unemployment." "In other words, mature capitalist countries found it difficult... to accrue wealth." "This period was marked by a huge growth in the financial system which was termed "financialisation"." "Financialisation brought on and intensified the crises." "When the US housing bubble burst the financial system came close to total collapse." "As a result, it affected the real economy, which had its own structural problems." "States took rescue measures." "They used tax-payers' money to save the banks and boost demand." "Thus, the financial crisis went fiscal." "And those same banks which were saved by the tax-payers decided to bite the hand that fed them, by gambling on state bankruptcies." "Speculation makes things worse in Greece, too." "Only, this time, the problem is even deeper." "It's time for the Eurozone to pay." "King Euro proves naked, mainly because he's a king without a state." "S. Amin" " Economist:" " There cannot be a "stateless" currency." "Despite its weaknesses, the advantage of the US dollar... among other things, is that there is a state called the USA." "Europe does not exist as a political entity." "There's no legitimized political power connecting its states." "In my opinion, the Eurozone is not viable." "In contrast to the USA, where the federal government and the Federal Reserve System intervene to ameliorate inequalities among states, Eurozone accentuates inequality." "Thus, it creates the "poor relatives", the PIIGS of European integration." "The Eurozone is divided distinctly into central and peripheral states." "The crisis is most intense in the peripheral states." "The big winners thanks to the Euro, are central states, especially Germany." "The competitiveness of EU member-states came to vary a lot and the competitiveness of the peripheral countries fell systematically behind." "This was directly due to the Euro." "Er." "Toussaint, president of CADTM Belgium - The crisis in the EU was a result of the way Europe was integrated." "With Greece, it's like putting in the ring Muhammad Ali the World Heavyweight Champion, with a featherweight boxer telling them: "Start fighting and let's see who wins"." "But, why are peripheral countries lagging behind in competitiveness?" "Most of all, what causes this divergence to widen?" "The myth of the "lazy periphery" and "industrious Germany"... with its "high productivity" is just that." "All the German governments managed was to declare war on their work-force... and freeze their salaries for a decade." "S. Wagenknecht" " Deputy Chairperson, Die Linke - In recent years, the nominal increase in German salaries was 7% while in the Eurozone it was 27%." "This gap logically results in loss of competitiveness in other countries." "When salaries go down in one country, while they go up in all the others naturally the competitiveness of the German economy is boosted while the other countries are unable to follow." "The Eurozone countries are no longer able to devaluate their currency." "This resulted in the establishment of a mechanism which was bound to lead to the results we have today." "C. Lapavitsas" " Economics Professor:" " The loss of competitiveness manifested itself in two ways both of which played a decisive part in the crisis." "Firstly, great deficits occurred in current transactions." "And Greece had the greatest deficit of all." "When you're unable to compete your transactions with the rest of the world result in a deficit." "And Greece's deficit is huge." "But this goes for the other peripheral countries, as well." "This phenomenon went hand-in-hand with the accruing of debt." "If you have such deficits, you must balance them somehow." "In the EU, Greece is the "poor relative"." "Greece belongs to the European Continent's semi-peripheral countries." "It's evident that Greece was bound to have a public deficit given the circumstances of its integration into European markets." "I won't even bother with the idea that Greeks are lazy." "That's pure racism." "The Eurozone destroys the immune system of peripheral countries leaving them exposed to the global crisis." "The Achilles' heel of those countries is deficit and debt." "In our case, the debt is rooted deep in the history of the Greek state." "M. Glezos" " Historical figure of the Greek Left:" " Constantly, since the beginning of the Greek War of Independence, our country started borrowing." "And it's been borrowing ever since." "With one exception." "During a period of "prosperity", Greece managed to become a lender." "During the German Occupation, Greece lent to Germany." "The Germans forced Greece to become a lender instead of a borrower." "After the German Occupation ended, the country resumed its traditional role;" "that of the borrower." "And national debt as we know it, started to rise in the 1980s." "The high levels of national borrowing in Greece relate to Greece's social and class structure and the form of the Greek economy over the last few decades." "They have to do with the Greek state's systematic inability to implement an effective and fair system of taxation." "(History of the Greek sovereign debt)" "Andreas Papandreou created the necessary welfare state... without increasing corporate and high income taxes." "He saved jobs by nationalizing loss-making private companies." "Primarily though, he saved the companies' owners." "Public deficit and sovereign debt increased dramatically." "Mitsotakis' government continued to borrow." "Maastricht treaty imposed markets as the only mechanism for deficit control, prohibiting other means of money creation." "Debt skyrocketed, with the highest increase rate in Greek history." "Costas Simitis was luckier." ""Creative accounting", the fall of European interest rates... and economic growth were on his side." "Thus, he was able to conceal the time-bomb that he placed on sovereign debt." "The percentage of debt seemed to decrease slightly." "Costas Karamanlis decreased capital taxation by 10%." "Such measures accelerated the economic free fall." "Debt exploded once more." "G. Papandreou enters the stage, pushing Greece into the arms of its lenders." "By the end of the "Mnemonium", sovereign debt will reach 167% of GDP." "The End" "Most countries in a similar situation were visited by the IMF." "But none paid as dearly as Argentina" "Greece's mirror image on the other side of the Atlantic." "Argentina fell into the debt trap at the same time as Greece in 1824, with the first British loans." "But the noose tightened towards the end of the 20th century." "Argentina's peso was pegged to the US dollar." "This made it impossible for it to exercise a monetary policy." "Argentina experienced its own Eurozone." "Only, instead of Berlin, they were up against Washington DC." "M. Camdessus" " Ex IMF Managing Director:" "At the same time, the IMF turned the country... into yet another experimental laboratory for Neoliberalism." "(Shots from the documentary film "The Take")" "Avi Lewis" " Film-maker / Journalist:" "Gerard Dumenil" " Economist:" "After Argentina's economic collapse in 2001... the IMF and its Neoliberal theories... became the laughing stock of economists all over the world." "But some monsters never die." "(I have 3 children and no job, please help)" "Greece will pay dearly for the intervention of the IMF." "And, in some cases, she will even pay for it in advance." "Ron Paul - Republican Congressman:" "Ben Bernanke - Chairman of FED" "Argentina was confronted by the IMF alone." "But Greece found herself serving two masters." "Because, in Europe, Neoliberal theories were also being promoted by the European Central Bank." "Ironically enough, in the case of Greece the IMF was softer than the EU." "The measures applied in collaboration with the IMF, the ECB and the EU are not only unfair and dangerous to the Greek people." "They were also doomed to fail right from the start." "They have a tragic impact on the people's quality of life and on their daily life even." "And it's highly unlikely that they will have a positive effect on the economy in general, and the management of national debt." "Like in Argentina, the target was to save not the economy but rather the banks and the big enterprises." "The measures implemented nowadays are stabilization measures to prevent Greece from defaulting on payments." "They are not measures which will reduce the debt." "It is more than obvious that the debt will continue to increase quickly regardless of the measures, and, indeed, as a result of them." "The measures aim clearly to protect the lenders to protect the banks, in a very clear way." "Within a few months, the Greek government gave the banks" "EUR 108 billion." "This is almost equal to the entire rescue package received from the IMF and the EU." "(Shots from the documentary film "Social Genocide")" "When Argentina faced a similar situation several of those responsible were punished." "The image of presidents leaving the presidential palace in choppers still haunts both the IMF and its collaborators." "One magical night, just like in Argentina we'll see who gets to hop into the chopper first!" "Year #1 after the IMF." "Greece has entered an intensive programme of "purging" procedures, "asset utilisation"" ""rationalisation measures" and "tidying up"." "The foreign delegates have taken up permanent residence in Athens and are dictating their policy through an unconstitutional "Memorandum"." "D. Strauss-Kahn" " IMF Managing Director:" "What is Greece today?" "Are we a free country?" "Yes." "Are we independent?" "No, we've been reduced to vassals." "Freedom is one thing, sovereignty quite another." "Our country's problem is that it has lost its sovereignty." "In splendid collaboration with its foreign lenders the government has turned against the people with harsh austerity measures." "The result is poverty, failed businesses, and unemployment." "We consider the centre of Athens" "N. Kanakis" " Doctors of the World/Greece:" " ...to be facing a humanitarian crisis." "All the distinctive features are there:" "People who are hungry or homeless, who lack medication and health-care." "People who just wander around the squares." "It's not much different from what we see in Third World countries." "You have to remember that we deal with the poorest of the poor." "There are people who still maintain some social security rights but that is not enough, as a poor woman-pensioner indicated." "She said: "I buy either food or medicine." "I can't afford both"." "The government's measures are not simply worsening the citizens' living conditions." "They pose an immediate threat to their existence." "P. Papanicolaou:" "Neurosurgeon - In all countries "supported" by the IMF up to now there has been a dramatic drop in average life expectancy." "It's what we usually refer to as the average lifespan." "There were countries where, after the IMF ordeal the average lifespan fell by 5-10 years." "With the cuts we are facing now it's clear that our life expectancy will be greatly reduced." "Citizens react." "The government's response is in breach of even the basic principles of democracy." "The penalisation of wearing a hood, the unjustified arrests and the hood-wearing policemen, all border on the deep state." "This liberality with tear-gas leaves us no money for free education" "Al Badiou" " Philosopher:" " Crises are always solved through measures against society and against the people which may be particularly harsh." "This is how capitalism controls the situation." "The problem of capitalism is how to get these measures accepted." "For that, violence is deployed." "In response to the "financial gale" alert" "Democracy makes way for Debtocracy." "Poor people, don't eat each other." "Eat the rich, they're plumper!" "A crisis of capitalism causes extensive devaluation." "The value is lost through financial speculation." "Somebody has to pay for this devaluation." "The capitalists do not intend to pay for it." "We understand that." "They're not altruistic." "But if those who caused the crisis do not intend to pay for it why should we pay?" "In the past, dozens of countries have successfully repudiated debts not incurred by their citizens, in accordance with provisions of the international law, such as the concept of odious debt." "The history of odious debt" "Our story starts in the 1920s, with Alexander Sack." "A minister in Czarist Russia and law specialist, Sack, after the 1917 Revolution, started teaching in universities in Europe and the USA." "In 1927, he came up with a brilliant concept:" "the concept of odious debt." "In order to define a debt as odious, three prerequisites are needed." "1." "The government of the country receives a loan without the knowledge and approval of the people." "2." "The loan is spent on activities not beneficial to the people." "3." "The lenders know of this situation but play possum." "Sack's proposals sound progressive, even revolutionary." "Actually, at that time, they served the interests of a rising superpower:" "the United States of America." "The USA had found themselves in need of the "odious debt" concept in 1898 when they won the Spanish-American war and annexed Cuba." "Their problem was that, together with Cuba they acquired the debt incurred by the Spanish colonial regime." "And, since Spanish colonialism had lasted four centuries from 1492, when Columbus set foot in America, till 1898 that debt was quite heavy." "Of course, the USA had no intention of paying for the mistakes of past regimes." "They decided that Cuba's debt was odious and simply refused to pay it." "The same had happened in Mexico a few decades earlier." "When the Republicans overthrew emperor Maximilian I they decided that the debt he had incurred was odious." "Maximilian had borrowed huge sums at excessively high interest rates to deal with the uprising against him." "And since he owed a lot, mainly to the people of Mexico he was sentenced to death and sent to the firing squad." "In the late 19th-early 20th century, most instances of odious debt concerned underdeveloped countries on the American continent." "Actually, a rising superpower was involved in all those debt repudiations:" "the United States of America." "And this same superpower brought the concept of odious debt into the 21st century." "December 2002: the White House is putting the finishing touches to the planned invasion and occupation of Iraq." "Before the attack starts, however, American officials are preparing for the day after Saddam Hussein's overthrowal." "The State Department knows that they will have to deal with" "Iraq's huge sovereign debt." "Therefore, they are trying to prove that this debt is odious." "A secret task-force is formed, and they propose that the first provisional government of Iraq declare cessation of due payments on the pretext that the Iraqi people must not pay the odious debt... incurred by the Iraqi regime." "All is now ready for the attack." "Eric Toussaint" " President of CADTM Belgium - In March 2003, the USA and their allies invaded Iraq." "Three weeks later, the US Secretary for the Treasury called for a summit meeting of G8 finance ministers in Washington, and announced that Hussein's debt was odious." "He said: "Hussein's regime is dictatorial and its debt must be repudiated"." ""The new government of Iraq must be free of Hussein's debt"." "George W. Bush instructed former Secretary of State, James Baker to convince the international community that Iraq's debt was odious." "And Baker claimed that Saddam Hussein wasted his people's money on building palaces and buying arms." "Among other things, American diplomats proved that Iraq owed billions of dollars to France and Russia, for the purchase of Exocet missiles and fighter aircraft such as Mirage F1 and MiG." "Actually, Hussein's way was not that different from what many Western leaders do." "To the Arabs, palaces are what the Olympic Games are to the West:" "A demonstration of economic and geopolitical dominance." "American diplomacy finally proved that Iraq's debt was odious and the Iraqi people were not obliged to pay it." "However, Washington suddenly realised that it pried open a can of worms." "For the first time in the 21st century, the ultimate superpower had legitimised the concept of odious debt." "So, they chose to sweep this case under the carpet." "The other countries said: "We'll cut 80% off Iraq's debt through the Paris Club"." ""But the concept of odious debt must not be used officially"" ""because other countries may claim this right as well"." ""For example, the DR Congo will repudiate Mobutu's debt"" ""the Philippines will refuse to pay the debt of dictator Marcos"" ""and South Africa will refuse the debt of the apartheid regime"." "To prevent the extension of the concept of odious debt into the 21st century they reached an ad hoc decision on Iraq." "However, it is obvious to us that the odious debt doctrine was used." "The USA continued to help Iraq to cancel old debts." "But nobody in Washington ever wanted to hear again the expression "odious debt"." "Iraq managed to write off a big part of its debt with the support of an empire." "But another country resolved to stand on its own two feet and stand up against the IMF and its other big lenders." "They managed to prove that their debt was not only odious, but also illegitimate and unconstitutional." "Welcome to Ecuador." "Rafael Correa" " President of Ecuador - We have urgent national commitments." "We'll fulfill our national commitments before the international commitments." "In due time, we will fulfill them." "But our priorities are clear." "Life comes before debt." "Ecuador could have been one of the richest countries in South America." "But, from the moment that oil was discovered... all the country knew was dictators, poverty, debt and economic hit-men." "John Perkins" " Activist, former economic hit-man:" "In 1982, Ecuador was visited by the IMF and a committee of wise men representing the country's big lenders." "Ecuador had been forced to borrow more and more, in order to fulfill past obligations." "Hugo Arias:" "Head of Ecuador audit committee - Ecuador was constantly being looted by the countries of the North." "For example, from 1980-1990 up to 2005 almost 50% of the government budget was used to repay debts." "Namely, about 3-4 billion US dollars a year." "Only 4% was for health care." "Four billion for repaying the debt, 400 million for health care." "Four billion for the debt, 800 million for education." "We were killing our own people." "The people of Ecuador protested." "The crisis seemed momentarily in control, when Lucio Gutierrez took over, promising social benefits." "He spoke like a socialist but, as soon as he took office, he made a new deal with the IMF and implemented measures of extreme austerity." "The people decided that he should leave with the same means of transport favoured by Argentinian presidents:" "the chopper." "Vice-president Palacio takes over." "He has good intentions, but soon succumbs to Washington." "So the people turn to the only politician who'd resisted international pressure." "Rafael Correa." "Song: "Una sola vuelta" - From the first round" "Correa, from the first round." "From the first round, Ecuador." "Hope is triumphant." "We are a united people." "Strike on, Ecuador Alliance." "Fight for justice." "Fight for your rights." "March on, Correa, for Ecuador." "From the first round" "Correa, from the first round." "From the first round, Ecuador!" "Correa studied economics in Europe and the USA and knows very well how to handle the World Bank and the IMF as long as one has the political will." "In 2005, as Minister of Finance, Correa declared that it was unnatural to use all oil revenues in order to pay back the debt." "This was unfair to the people." "He said that 80% of oil revenues should be used for benefits, in health, education and the creation of jobs and only 20% should be channeled towards repayment of the debt." "The World Bank said that they wouldn't lend to Ecuador if such a law passed." "This was an obvious interference with Ecuador's internal policy." "Correa declared that he would never follow such instructions from the WB." "He chose to resign rather than succumb." "This made him very popular." "The people said: "This man chose to resign from minister"" ""in order to defend the dignity and the interests of the people"." "Correa was finally elected in 2006." "One of his first actions was to deport the representative of the World Bank and ask the IMF delegation to leave the Central Bank's premises." "Officials of the IMF, such as Bob Traa, who later came to Greece had already been dubbed "unwanted" by the people of Ecuador." "Those callous, dishonest bureaucrats have to respect our country." "This is why we deported the WB delegate." "We maintain the right to restore the damage done to our country and declare our debt to the WB illegitimate." "Six months later, Correa went a step further." "He fulfilled the demand of social organisations for an Audit Committee." "I was one of the people Correa chose for the Committee." "Eighteen individuals and 4 national institutions participated." "We were to examine all debt contracts, from 1976 to 2006." "We worked for 14 months." "We examined the bond debt the debts to the IMF, the World Bank and other international organisations." "We examined the debt to countries such as France, Japan and Germany." "Finally, we examined Ecuador's internal national debt." "The battle to access the data was tremendous." "In the Ministry of Finance, our associate Alejandro Olmos Jr and myself, were declared "personae non gratae"." "The officials in the Ministry of Finance wrote to the Minister to complain and denounce both mine and Olmos' actions claiming that we were inflicting harm on the Ministry's employees." "We laughed it off, but you imagine how difficult it was after we'd been accused of being the "bad guys"" "in that auditing procedure." "Despite the setbacks, the Committee managed to complete its work and discovered that a big part of the debt was illegitimate." "They acknowledged their findings to the state, who told the people." "It was very important that the work of the Committee was made public." "The people of Ecuador knew why the debt contracts of past regimes especially those of the year 2000, were illegitimate." "Song: "Dale Correa Rafael" - Strike on, Rafael Correa!" "Our homeland is marching against the decadent Congress and the bureaucratic dictatorship of the old politicians." "Power belongs to the people." "Your brother tells you so." "The people of Ecuador want a new constitution." "Strike on, Correa." "Strike against the "bosses" who devastated our homeland." "Strike on, Correa." "Strike on, Rafael Correa." "Based on the findings of the Committee, the government proved that the debt was illegitimate and declared cessation of payments for 70% of Ecuador's debt in bonds." "Those in possession of Ecuador's debt sold bonds at 20% of their value." "The government started to buy them secretly." "They gave 800 million dollars and bought off 3 billion dollars of debt." "This significant reduction allowed an improvement in living conditions." "Furthermore, they rid themselves of the interest they would have had to pay till 2012 or 2030." "They saved at least 7 billion dollars, which was great for the country." "This allowed the government to increase expenditure on education, health the creation of new jobs, and improvement in infrastructure." "In Greece, historians, economists and political analysts use up tons of ink daily to tell us how to handle sovereign debt." "Yet, there is one question very few pose." "Does the Greek people really owe as much as its creditors claim?" "The most recent Greek debt bears evidence of illegitimacy and illegality." "For example, the authorities received "gifts" from companies like Siemens which, together with Siemens Hellas, bribed ministers and officials for at least a decade, in order to gain contracts." "In this case, we have evidence of illegality and illegitimacy." "So, this debt should be examined in court." "To me, this is evident." "Greek justice proved inadequate in the Siemens case." "And it was too slow in other cases of deals made behind the people's back, which have increased the debt." "With the infamous swaps of 2001, the government mortgaged the future to present a false prosperous present." "They made the Greek debt look lower by changing a loan from JPY to EUR, using outdated exchange rates." "They were assisted in this by Goldman Sachs, who made millions out of this deal." "Mark Kirk" " US Senator:" "The trick worked for many years." "And the Greek political elite showed they could reward their allies amply." "They re-hired" "Goldman Sachs as consultant and paid them with the people's money." "Jean Quatremer" " Journalist:" " Goldman Sachs consulted and attacked the Greek government simultaneously." "The scandal was revealed in 2010." "A few days earlier a former employee of Goldman Sachs had been assigned leader of the Greek Public Debt Management Agency." "Hiring an employee of Goldman Sachs is like hiring a criminal." "It's the same as hiring a bank robber to guard your house." "You think that he knows the other robbers and he'll stop them." "But there's great danger that one day he'll profit from your absence and rob you." "Who can guarantee to me that this former Goldman Sachs man will handle Greek affairs in the best possible way?" "Several countries blame Greece for her transactions with Goldman Sachs." "Only these are the same countries who exploit their liaisons with Greek governments, to sell at a good price weapons to Greece." "S. Wagenknecht:" "Deputy Chairperson, Die Linke - When, one year ago, Germany was negotiating to support Greece one of the main terms was that Greece would continue to import German weapons." "Greece should cut down on pensions and social benefits, not on arms' imports." "This is indicative of the interests involved." "Germany protects the interests of weapon manufacturers, and its export industry." "Those people want to continue trading despite the crisis." "Daniel Cohn-Bendit" " MEP:" " We're hypocrites!" "Last month, France sold 6 frigates to Greece for 2.5 billion." "Also, helicopters worth 400 million and Rafale aircraft at 100 million each." "I don't know if we sold 10, 20, or 30." "The total cost is almost 3 billion." "Germany sold 6 submarines to Greece, worth 1 billion." "We're such hypocrites!" "We give them money so they can buy our weapons." "Before the hypocrisy of Europe, criminal back-downs come hand-in-hand with criminal decisions, always for "Greece's national interest"" "or to support a new Greek "expansionism" that led to economic devastation." "G. Voulgarakis" " Ex Minister of Public Order:" "Eric Toussaint:" "President of CADTMT Belgium - There were huge, exaggerated expenses paid by the people." "The loans for the Olympic Games were paid with tax-payers' money." "It's only natural that the people demand to know why the budget exploded and where that money went." "The Olympic Games and the corrupt transactions with Siemens or Goldman Sachs are but a small fraction of the shady deals made at the people's expense." "However, there are more important matters which concern not only Greece, but all peripheral European countries." "C. Lapavitsas" " Economics Professor:" " Have all the rules which govern the issuing of bonds been followed?" "Also, are there any questions of legitimacy about the banks who played the main role for issuing bonds either in the primary or the secondary market?" "Which banks took part?" "How were they reimbursed?" "Under what terms and conditions did they participate?" "S. Wagenknecht" " Deputy Chairperson, Die Linke:" " Part of the national debts incurred in Eurozone countries is illegitimate because they resulted from policies against the people's interests." "So these debts must not be paid by the people." "Ecuador demonstrated how all those illegitimate or odious contracts can come to light through an Audit Committe." "Why don't they tell us what kind of debt this is?" "How much is it?" "How was it incurred?" "To whom do we owe money?" "This is why an audit is necessary." "An audit will define exactly what this debt is about." "We have to know and denounce all the lies told by the government and the corporations who seize the Greek people's money, and all those who get amply paid to parrot and praise the government." "But who's going to set up the Audit Committee?" "And most of all, how can we make sure that it won't be yet another parliament committee, consisting of the same people that got us into this situation?" "The Audit Committee's members should not be specialists." "It's not necessary." "Because if the government forms a committee of specialists even if they are called from abroad, even if ordinary citizens are included the committee may prove to be the government's mouthpiece." "Only the people have the authority and the right to request an audit because they suffer the consequences." "All Greeks must become involved." "All social organisations must protest and demand an audit." "The Greek political parties ND and PASOK, who benefited from the creation of debt are very negative towards an audit, as their responsibility will be revealed." "Public opinion must be mobilized." "Organisations must be mobilized, as well as unions, judges, intellectuals, artists." "They must express their views and exert pressure on political authority." "In March 2011, a group of people from different backgrounds took the initiative to demand the formation of an Audit Committee in Greece." "Academics, writers, artists, union representatives from all over the world supported this initiative willingly." "The Audit Committee will find which parts of the debt are odious or illegitimate and will prove that, as provided by Greek and International Law the Greek people are not obliged to pay such debt." "However, the decision is basically political, not financial." "Even if the debt was legitimate, no government has the right to kill its people in order to satisfy its lenders." "Even if the entire Greek national debt of 350 billion proves legitimate which is clearly not going to be the case, Greece can never pay back." "It will have to be cancelled." "If honouring the debt and making it sustainable involves dismantling health care, dismantling education dismantling the transport system, then the debt is socially unsustainable." "Nobody is obliged to pay this debt since it was accrued by the vicious workings of financial markets." "It's immoral to pay an immoral debt." "The formation of an Audit Committee, is ultimately just a valuable weapon in a broader battle." "This battle will follow the traditional rules by which battles have been fought for centuries." "Without this battle, even if we repudiate the debt repeatedly it will always rise from its ashes." "This means that a field for ideological, political and class struggle will form." "The debt is a result of class struggle." "Don't hesitate to stand up for your rights in the EU and against the Greek government." "Respect is gained through struggle, not by obeying one's creditors." "Look at Tunisia and Egypt." "Only when the people take action can the situation really change." "We have to shake off submissiveness, liberate ourselves from the IMF liberate ourselves from the ECB, and liberate ourselves from the lenders because they are equal to the economic enslavement of Greece." "G. Papandreou" " PM:" " Now is the crucial moment." "Let's go!" "TRANSLATION" " SUBTITLES ZOI SIAPANTA"